Why the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not surrender and why we are not afraid of the Patriot air defense system

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I continue to debunk individual informational myths that have developed in the minds of our and non-brotherly fellow citizens under the influence of my own ignorance and counter-propaganda of the enemy, which I started in previous text, and which he could not finish there. There I settled on our opponent. Well, let's start with him.

Millions of you, us - the army, try, fight with us!


And the enemy we got is many-sided and inveterate. On one head cut down by us, three grow at once. How many heads does he have? Tales are circulating on the Internet about a million-strong army of great Ukrainians and endless waves of mobilization that swept through the cities and towns of Nezalezhnaya from east to west. Handless and blind conscripts demonstrating their agendas have already flooded all the Internet publics, and military commissars chasing and wringing their hands have become bestsellers. The real number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is unknown to anyone, which is why the people are led to any spreading “cranberries”.



At the same time, the number of our troops involved in Ukraine is also a great secret, shrouded in darkness. Here we can only refer to Putin, who on December 7 last year announced that 318 thousand people were called up for partial mobilization, of which 150 thousand are already in the zone of the NWO (77 thousand directly at the front end, the second half in the second and third echelons), the remaining 168 continue their training at the training grounds and in the training centers of the Defense Ministry in the territory of the Russian Federation, being the reserve of the Headquarters of the Supreme High Command. If we sum up these 168 with the 815-strong grouping of the RF Armed Forces now deployed in Ukraine, then in total we will get about half a million potential bayonets that currently hold the XNUMX-kilometer front line, simultaneously solving operational and tactical tasks in the Donbass, in Kharkov and Zaporozhye regions, with the possibility of involving them for the future spring offensive (we will probably not see the winter one already).

As for the non-brothers, here one has to refer only to their commanders and analyze the figures they have declared. So the commander of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Colonel-General Alexander Syrsky, speaking in a December interview with the British The Economist about new waves of mobilization in Ukraine, said that at present more than 700 thousand Ukrainians are under arms of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in one form or another, of which 200 thousand are preparing for participation in hostilities (here, those very 200 thousand sets of winter clothes, ordered by the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Reznikov from Canada, surfaced). At the same time, Syrsky did not fail to complain to the British about the lack of ammunition.

Ammunition is critical. Now they are spent at a rate comparable to that during the Second World War. Battles are won by the side that delivers shells to the cannons faster. The quantity and regularity of supplies in many cases determines the success of the battle.

In this, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzhny supported his subordinate in this, who in the same interview with The Economist emphasized that this is precisely why Kiev now “cannot conduct new large operations,” although Ukraine is currently working on one of them.

What is important for us here? We will not talk about the Napoleonic plans of Zaluzhny and his boss now, we know these plans - to go to the Crimea, first cutting it off from the land corridor, but only our heroes have a thin gut - they are waiting for "iron" and ammunition from the allies, preparing at an accelerated pace there own reserve (about 60-65 thousand people). Let them get ready, this will not happen before summer, and before that some events may occur that will radically change the agenda beyond recognition (then it will not be necessary to think about Crimea, but about how to keep Zaporozhye and Kharkov).

But here, first of all, I am interested in not where the non-brothers will move, but in what number? This is where the figure of 200 people is important, which General Syrsky highlighted, which in a strange way correlates with the number of NATO winter uniforms ordered by his Minister of Defense. It is clear that in the summer they will go on a counterattack already in summer uniforms, I am more interested here, but what are the “warriors of light” fighting in now? The same 700 thousand that the general boasted about? Are 500 thousand fighting in summer clothes? Do they not need a winter uniform? Or, what difference does it make to die under Bakhmut? After all, an ordinary Vushnik lives there from four to six hours (a maximum of a day, according to the speaker of the Eastern Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine). It seems to me that this is where the answer lies. The Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have 700 thousand bayonets, the maximum they have now is 200-300 thousand people. We have the same number on the front. In a positional confrontation, more is not needed, and when the offensive begins, in a maneuver war we will create the necessary preponderance of forces on the desired local sector of the front. Waiting sir…

Legends about tens of thousands of foreign mercenaries fighting in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not yet subject to verification. According to the Turkish edition of Hurseda, about 8 mercenaries are known to have died among them (the figure is given as of the end of January this year), of which 2458 are soldiers of NATO member countries and another 234 instructor officers (the remaining 5360 people are simply “wild geese" - soldiers of fortune). The Turks refer to the Israeli Mossad, I don’t know how accurate the Israeli statistics are, but their numbers correlate with the statistics of the National Guard, which recently cited the number of losses among foreign mercenaries in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in just the last three days. There were about one and a half hundred of them. Of these, 93 people were Poles, 41 people were Azerbaijanis and Turks (Turan battalion), and 17 people were missing from the Georgian Mkhedrioni battalion. 11 Sich Riflemen of the Carpathian Cossack Army of Independent Ukraine were killed, and 3 Estonians, 8 Swedes and 5 Hungarians for small things. And that's just in three days!

If we summarize the open data, then, in general, the international legion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine today has about 20 thousand citizens from 55 countries of the world, and about 40 thousand more wish to join its ranks (and will do so in the near future). Most of them are US citizens (31%), in second place are finely shaved (18%), Germans are third (7%), Canadians are fourth (5%). Why are there no Poles among them, probably because they do not sign up as mercenaries, but immediately go purposefully to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, replenishing their mechanized units and acquiring invaluable combat experience in Ukraine, which will be useful to them in a future war with the Russian Federation. It is known about entire units made up of Polish mercenaries, especially as part of the mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The crews of the Polish tanks PT-91 and T-72 and self-propelled guns "Crab" are composed exclusively of seconded Poles. Our assault units are complaining - there is only one Polish speech on the radio. And these are not legionnaires and not "wild geese" - these are regular Polish junior officers and soldiers who were sent to the 404th for the war under the guise of vacationers.

The common question why Ukrainian society does not grow protest at the sight of such victims is devoid of any sense. Ukrainian society simply does not know about them (can only guess). Mass propaganda from morning to evening trumpets about victory, any question - at the cost of what sacrifices - is immediately called into question - is it not Putin's agent who asks him, after which the questions, together with those who ask them, disappear. Society has rallied in the fight against a common enemy, and each new missile raid by the RF Armed Forces on the civilian infrastructure of the Square only multiplies these ranks. Every second was going to fight to the end (naturally, not his own, but the other "every second"), and to liberate, at least, Crimea. Moreover, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are winning on TV, and they will go to Moscow a little more.

Other Fried Facts


We figured out the main fakes, it remains to deal with small things. I'll start with the most obvious - with the legend about the tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with welded hatches, which allegedly surrender without a fight to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (and the white flag replaces the muzzle raised to the top and a rotating turret). This is a fable! This was not, and is not. Who will cook them when they return with a conditional victory from the battlefield?! And how should the supposedly at fault tankers themselves treat their fellow welders after that ?! Vushniki have not yet reached such a point. Tales of grandmother Arina. Cross out.

With "Caliber" from the Caspian Sea it will be more difficult. There are a lot of questions here. Enemy propaganda trumpets that, firstly, we are running out of Caliber, and secondly, the Russians are already afraid to deliver them to their naval carriers (these are project 11356R frigates, project 636.6 Varshavyanka diesel-electric submarines and project 21631 Buyan- M") in the Black Sea, due to the vulnerability of the latter from Ukrainian sea and air drones. About the ending "Caliber" I will not even comment on this nonsense, but about the use of the RK and RTOs of the Caspian flotilla for the sea launch of "Caliber", I will say that there are two reasons for this. The first is convenient logistics for replenishing the flotilla’s ammo from the Kalibrov manufacturing plant in Yekaterinburg, the second is changing the flight path of cruise missiles to bypass Ukrainian air defense (it’s more convenient to hit targets from the Caspian than from the Black Sea).

With the Caliber, the topic was closed, now let's talk about the invincible terrible and terrible Western weapons supplied to non-brothers by their partners. In particular, about the MIM-104 "Patriot" air defense system and other tattered NATO tank "cats" that have been scaring us for six months now. I will not talk here about the cost of the product (the price of only one battery of the Patriot air defense system, which includes 4 launchers, reaches $ 1 billion, and the sky over Ukraine cannot be closed with one battery) and the cost of launching one anti-aircraft guided missile (and this figure also fluctuates around $ 3 million, missiles are really expensive, not everyone can afford it), I will only talk about the technical aspects of the product. Do you know when this miracle was adopted equipment? Exactly 40 years ago. The technical thought of the Americans stopped at this, while we developed the line of our S-300, S-350, S-400, S-500, S-550 air defense systems.

The effectiveness of the state's vaunted Patriot medium-range air defense / missile defense system is highly questionable. She provided the reason for this herself, when she did not help the Saudis with her help to fight off a raid of cruise missiles and Houthi drones on oil facilities in Saudi Arabia in September 2019 (then the Houthis launched 25 drones and KR, all 100% of which reached their goals). But Saudi Arabia was armed with the MIM-104 Patriot in the latest PAC 3 modification. And the trouble is not that any air defense system (including our S-300) has its own efficiency, which ranges from 0,8-0,9, 80 (90-0,6%) for aircraft and 0,8-60 (80-300%) for tactical missiles (our S-0,8 has 0,9-104), and that MIM-XNUMX in principle, he was not ready to shoot down cruise missiles and drones flying at low altitudes, copying the terrain. It is more sharpened to destroy ballistic missiles flying along a ballistic predictable trajectory.

The fact is that due to the curvature of the Earth's surface, a low-flying target is visible to a ground-based radar at a distance of only a few tens of kilometers. The Patriot radar is designed to track and track high-flying targets. The situation can be corrected only with the help of a radar aircraft (DRLOiU), however, for constant monitoring, it must always be kept in the air. I am not sure that the Americans will keep their AWACS in the air for the sake of Ukraine 24/7. That is why I look forward to their "Patriots" in order to finally bury the myth of their invincibility on the fields of Ukraine, after which the shares of the company producing them, Raytheon Technologies, will steadily roll down.

The only benefit of the Patrits is the ability to combine, with the help of their radars, the long-range S-300PS / PT air defense systems available to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the medium-range air defense systems NASAMS, IRIS-T, Buk-M1 and the Tor- M1 "short range into a single integrated air defense / missile defense in depth network (German melee ZSU Gepard, designed to protect columns on the march, can also be attributed there). How well they succeed, we'll see. We will always have time to say that the Patriot air defense system is a dummy.

Regarding the German main battle tanks "Leopard-2", as well as about their English counterparts "Challenger-2", as well as about the vaunted American M1 "Abrams", I have already said everything here. If you're interested, I won't repeat myself. I can only say that the Americans will not put their vaunted MBTs yet, being afraid to lose their reputation on the fields of Ukraine (I can even bet that this will not happen!), And the German tattered "cats", as well as their English colleagues, are at risk on the fields of the Ukrainian theater become heavy, clumsy, voracious, weakly armed (without dynamic and active protection against ATGMs) coffins on tracks for their crews. We are waiting, sir… Please!

There is still a legend for internal Ukrainian use about the use of S-300 anti-aircraft missiles and Onyx anti-ship missiles by the Russian Armed Forces against ground targets in view of the end of their ground-to-ground and air-to-surface missiles. I have never heard more bullshit. But the most amazing thing is that this nonsense is the most frequently quoted, and a lie, repeated twice, as you know, becomes the truth. And I myself saw how quite sane and literate people began to prove to me with foam at the mouth that the Russians were utilizing these missiles in such a way that they simply had nowhere to put them. I admit, the Onyx anti-ship missiles were really used against coastal ground targets. Look at the mass of his warhead at your leisure - 300 kg, it will not seem enough to anyone! But in order to use the expensive S-300 surface-to-air missiles against ground targets, only advanced Ukrainian patriots could reach such insanity, for whom the pan prevents them from breathing and thinking.

The cost of one SAM fluctuates around 500-600 thousand dollars, the fragmentation warhead has a mass of 133 kg for 5V55 missiles, 143 kg for 48N6 missiles and 180 kg for 48N6M missiles. Seems to be enough? Only enough to hit air targets with fragments, and for ground targets, it must be said, it is a very expensive pleasure to hit half a million dollars worth of high-explosive fragmentation missiles at long-term enemy fortifications, for the destruction of which completely different ammunition is needed. Only very advanced "diggers of the Black Sea" can afford this (they have rockets and money immeasurably!). For comparison, I suggest they take a look at the performance characteristics of the KR "Caliber" - its warhead ranges from 200 to 400-450 kg (depending on the type of rocket), the filling is either penetrating high-explosive or penetrating high-explosive fragmentation, but the cost is only 300-350 thousand dollars (with a warhead mass three times greater!). It already makes sense to strike.

Our Iskanders have even more destructive power, their warhead ranges from 450 kg (for quasi-ballistic missiles) to 480 kg (for cruise missiles), and the filling is such that “mom don’t cry.” It is not for nothing that our enemies called it the most terrible weapon of the Russians, except for the SNF and TNW. The explosion of one such munition covers the area of ​​two football fields, and in terms of the power of the volumetric explosion, the Iskander cluster warhead surpasses the ODAB-500P volumetric explosion bomb of comparable weight, with continuous destruction and ignition of objects within a radius of 30 meters due to the formation of a non-spherical gas cloud of cluster elements , but elongated, spreading along the earth. These are missiles of a completely different class - "ground-to-ground". They are designed for this and are worth their money (the winged Iskander-K is up to 1 million dollars, the ballistic Iskander-M is three times more expensive). A concrete-piercing warhead is used to destroy bunkers. To destroy areal targets and dug-in equipment - a cluster fragmentation warhead with remote detonation in the air of 54 combat elements to destroy people and equipment in the trenches from above.

In order not to upset our Ukrainian non-brothers at all, I do not cite the performance characteristics of air-to-surface missiles, I will only say that the Kh-22 has a non-nuclear warhead of 960 kg, and in a thermonuclear version it ranges from 300 to 1000 kg. The cost of a unit of the product is 400 thousand dollars. Not cheap, but very angry! X-59 is even cheaper - 250 thousand dollars with a warhead - 280-310-320 kg (depending on the filling - cassette and penetrating). The Kh-101 and Kh-55 / Kh-555 have a warhead mass of 400-410 kg, I don’t quote prices so as not to upset the non-brothers, but they correspond to the price-lethal mass-range indicator (missiles are still Soviet, but then they knew how to make cheap and very angrily). All the same, the songs of Ukrainian propagandists telling you about the evil "orcs" who are crushing your residential buildings and infrastructure with S-300 anti-aircraft missiles are designed to hide the defeat of these objects by Ukrainian S-300 anti-aircraft missiles that strayed off course, lost their target, or simply collapsed on home after hitting an enemy target. This happens when the service life of a rocket is overdue (and no one extended it for your rockets, because their manufacturer is located in Russia). Regularly, an anti-aircraft missile that has not caught the target goes into the air with a candle to its maximum height, where it self-detonates with the complete destruction of the missile. If you have anti-aircraft missiles falling on residential buildings, then the last thing to do is to blame the Russians for this.

Limited use of tactical nuclear weapons, and even more so strategic nuclear weapons, cannot be


Well, the last information myth, which is firmly planted in the minds of our domestic patriots, concerns our use of tactical and strategic nuclear weapons (TNW and SNF). Here, some people are already simply dreaming of him, reproaching the Kremlin and the General Staff for weakness and softness. Other "experienced military experts" talk about short-lived nuclear isotopes with which these bombs and missiles are allegedly stuffed, they say, nothing bad will happen, we'll hit it, and in a couple of years we'll be picking mushrooms there. We will not! TNW, and even more so SNW, are doomsday weapons. After we use it on a potential enemy (and I don’t think it will come to that!) An answer will immediately follow, and a person in a bearskin with a stone ax will pick mushrooms there and not earlier than two hundred years later. There should be no illusions here.

Only irresponsible Westerners can suffer from such illusions. policy from a generation of unafraid idiots, such as Boris Johnson or Annalena Burbock, who have never seen any war in their lives, but only read about the consequences of a nuclear explosion in books. Moreover, in the case of Annalena, I’m not even sure about this - there are big doubts whether she can read at all? These irresponsible people live in the paradigm that we will not use our nuclear weapons at all, increasing the level of escalation and pumping our Ukrainian ward with ever more deadly weapons.

Basically, they are right. Responsible people sit in the Kremlin and will press the red button only when all other ways to avoid this are used. Because, unlike their counterparts, they understand how this can threaten all of us and all of humanity. At the same time, the Third World War with the finale of mutual destruction is not included in the plans of both sides. And it will not be possible to avoid it, since the use of nuclear weapons by one of the parties will inevitably lead to a domino effect on the part of his opponent and the knuckles will fall. If someone has doubts about this, then personally I have none. In this case, I completely trust Albert Einstein, who at the dawn of the atomic era said: “I don’t know what weapons the Third World War will be fought with, but I know for sure that the Fourth will be fought with a bow and arrow!”.

The legend that our use of tactical nuclear weapons will entail complete disregard and obstruction on the part of the "free world", and that this is exactly what the States are trying to achieve by trying to drive us over the buoys, turning us into an international pariah, like North Korea, should not worry us at all. Firstly, because Russia is not North Korea, because the scale is not the same at all - it is difficult to make 1/6 of the earth's land an outcast. And, secondly, for the same reason (see point one), although I have zero sarcasm towards the DPRK, the fact that she survived in such conditions and also forced herself to respect herself causes nothing but respect and respect. And on the other hand, if you figure it out - why should we worry about what a man with a stone ax will think of us in 2222, because the use of nuclear weapons by us will inevitably lead to a chain reaction and life will return to this territory not earlier than in 200 years. For this reason, I very much hope that we will discuss our use of tactical nuclear weapons, not to mention strategic nuclear weapons, only in theory and only in a hypothetical form.

This concludes the review on the topic of informational fakes, legends and myths. If someone disagrees with something, they can express their opinion in the comments.

Your Mr. Z
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  1. +11
    16 February 2023 20: 46
    Dreamer, I called you. It's time for Mister Z to change his alias to Andersen.
    1. +4
      16 February 2023 21: 59
      The author was clearly "brought in".
    2. -2
      16 February 2023 22: 14
      Let's be specific, what do you disagree with?
      1. +3
        16 February 2023 23: 19
        use the expensive S-300 ground-to-air missiles against ground targets,

        Firstly, the warehouses are full of missiles from the S-300 of the first modifications. Not only are they quite outdated - they have clearly expired warranty period. And this means that solid fuel must be reloaded for sure. For it stupidly cracks and loses its condition. What the use of it after the expiration of the term leads to was vividly demonstrated by the same Tsegabonites. Now the question is - what is the point of carrying out an expensive operation to re-equip obsolete missiles? Isn't it easier to smack them on the ground? Which they apparently do. Well, if he misses the trench once - the trouble is not great. But it's cheap and cheerful.
        1. -1
          17 February 2023 04: 44
          Quote from Paul3390
          Firstly, the warehouses are full of missiles from the S-300 of the first modifications ...

          Brad!

        2. -1
          17 February 2023 21: 20
          where does the infa about the excess of expired missiles come from? from inet? infa classified, keep in mind.

          He who knows does not speak; the one who speaks does not know

          (special services rule)
      2. +1
        17 February 2023 10: 17
        After we use it on a potential enemy (and I don’t think it will come to that!) An answer will immediately follow ...

        Let the author of this wonderful opus answer a couple of "simple" questions:
        1. From whom will this "answer" be? Who, after a massive strike against Banderostan, will decide to strike at Russia?! That's really interesting! (Countries can be found?)
        And most importantly, why? Probably die for the company with dill?))
        2. What is the author going to do when we shoot all the stocks of shells from the USSR, and also put the mobilized ones? Then it is already possible to use nuclear weapons, or again, "no-no"? Let's wait for what? Fighting in Donetsk, Crimea, near Belgorod ..... or only when they start hitting Moscow ?!
        PS Not using nuclear weapons now will only lead to great casualties among our soldiers, and only to prolong the war! My prediction, after a massive blow, with the cutting of all supply channels, will be the defeat and finishing off of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and all over the world, they will just put them in their pants! (Given that in Russia, there will be several thousand more charges)
        1. -3
          17 February 2023 18: 39
          the answer will be from the USA, they have already voiced this, do you want to check the strength of their eggs?
          1. +3
            18 February 2023 15: 02
            In previous wars, the States are well done among the sheep ....
          2. +1
            20 February 2023 09: 01
            Show me what provisions, or treaties, the US will hit?! Because the "mega-ruler" Zelya wants so?
            If Russia does not show the strength of its eggs, then we will be beaten in any case!
        2. -1
          17 February 2023 18: 51
          Quote: Alexbf109
          Who, after a massive strike against Banderostan, will decide to strike at Russia?! That's really interesting! (Countries can be found?)
          And most importantly, why? Probably die for the company with dill?))

          The US decides.
          For them, the logic is simple - if the Russian Federation hit nuclear weapons in Ukraine, then they may soon hit London and Washington, which means they need to take the risk that not all strategic nuclear forces will be able to endure a preemptive strike.

          Quote: Alexbf109
          when we shoot all the stocks of shells from the USSR

          Shoot those shells that are produced now.

          Let's wait for what? Fights in Donetsk, Crimea, near Belgorod

          The capture of the Armed Forces of Ukraine of the regional center of one of the "old" regions (which will be a consequence of the collapse of the front) will leave the Russian Federation no other options but to hit the advancing nuclear weapons.
          This is exactly what Washington understands. Hence the restraint in providing funds to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and the ban on crossing the border of these "old" regions.
          1. +4
            17 February 2023 20: 10
            Quote from Nelton.
            For them, the logic is simple - if the Russian Federation hit nuclear weapons in Ukraine,

            the Americans will not dare to strike at the Russian Federation, they will not smash our strategic nuclear forces with any preemptive strike, in the worst case for us, some of them, and are guaranteed to receive an answer that they do not need at all, they also do not dare to strike at North Korea, at Iran, at China because they are afraid, and after the strike on Lvov they are completely afraid to get involved with this Russian, and why? then you have no idea what tactical nuclear weapons are, there are strategic missiles and there are tactical missiles (of low and medium power), there are backpack atomic bombs, for example, the one that was planted under the World Trade Center in New York FOR ITS DEMOLATION, September 11, I remember it was on the roof of one of the towers, some nuclear weapons generally differ little from fAB
          2. +1
            20 February 2023 08: 59
            Those. leaving Russian people in Donetsk and Crimea? And everything is fine, yes, Russians?! Just to save your ass?
            Seriously hit? What obligations? Just because you said it?
        3. +2
          19 February 2023 10: 51
          Correctly judged, after "strike" on dill along the borders of Poland, the Anglo-Saxons will not dare to hit anything at all. The logic is very simple: why risk your beloved for the sake of "natives" with beads around their necks, that is, Russians who do not care about life and who have not really seen life. Life is very sweet to give up like this for the destruction of backward Russia.
  2. +11
    16 February 2023 21: 27
    Damn, I read this mysterious Z last fall. To be honest, I believed it. turned out to be in vain.
    it would be nice for Mr. Z to re-read his fairy tales and see for himself that the visionary is fierce
    1. -1
      16 February 2023 22: 17
      give facts of lies, please ... I write down ...
      1. 0
        17 February 2023 09: 57
        well, for example, you write about the imaginary unity of the Ukrofascist society and the will to their imaginary victory, it is clear that you don’t know anything and don’t see the forest for the trees, so I don’t live in the so-called Ukraine and I know that they have no enthusiasm to fight, and this of course, those who live there would confirm to me ...... the peak of the mass psychosis of the ukrofascists created by manipulations in the media fell on 2014 and, according to Weber Fechner's law, it is constantly decreasing ... and write down the facts in you .... 1 there are no more volunteers and activists collecting and delivering to the front (compare with 2014) 2 mass departure and escape from mobilization, and these are the most stubborn fascists fleeing 3 teroborona these are those who wanted to escape from the front but ended up at the front 4 are now mobilizing the most cowardly and stupid (unable to escape) that same swamp 5 most of the cadre units of the fascists, the most active principled ukro-fascists, have been lying in the ground since the summer or wild dogs feed on them 6 of course the ukro-fascist swamp is outraged that they are being beaten and not Only Donbass suffers from this (and they wanted to bomb Donetsk and not receive answers), but how is this indignation expressed? shake the air in the kitchens? 7 your entire article is designed to take us away from the clear idea that a nuclear strike on Lviv is optimal, we will inflict fear on the West and discourage him from getting involved, we will inflict an irreparable mortal blow on the Ukrofascists and their arrogance of pride and belief that they dug out the Black Sea, (residents of Lviv can be graciously warned in advance to collect belongings in Poland and arrange the Volyn massacre there), then the Poles will not get involved in a confrontation with the Russian Federation ..... answer reasoned point by point
        1. +1
          17 February 2023 22: 00
          I’m not answering point by point - Putin made his main mistake when, in March 2014, he did not take advantage of Janek’s request to restore the violated constitutional order and the permission of the Federation Council to use Russian troops abroad for this purpose (on March 1, he already had this permission in his pocket). Everything else is a consequence of this error. Yes, there would be no Crimea, but there would be no fascist Ukraine either (with the father in 2020 and with the Tokaev goat in 2022, Putin has not repeated this mistake, and thank God!). His second terrible mistake was the beginning of the NWO and entering the territory of the 404th, with this he untied the hands of the Kyiv regime and here such fascism began that Zelensky could not even dream of. Putin has released this fascist genie from the bottle and it is no longer possible to push it back like paste into a tooth tube. Among the natives, even among those who were initially neutral towards Russia, everything closed up - we were attacked, we must defend ourselves, the end justifies the means. After that, Putin lost all of Ukraine to himself. It was necessary to listen to Gerasimov and send troops only to the Donbass - but when the Banderlog hit him, then it was necessary to respond with all the force of Russian weapons. Right now it's too late to drink Borjomi
          1. +4
            17 February 2023 23: 26
            thanks for the answer, but this is not an answer, you asked to write down the points, I did the points, but you ignored clear questions because you realized that you were wrong, now about your new ideas, about Putin's imaginary "mistakes" the first entry of troops into Ukraine was not made, because it was in 2014 that the peak of the Bandera psychosis of dill was, they would enthusiastically start a war with the Russian Federation that prevents them from riding on the Maidan (and you yourself wrote that they like to ride and that they do not respect those who do not ride, but live under Putin for decades) and why to send troops into a free country that has not stained itself with anything? further, the annexation of Crimea is a necessity, otherwise the loss of the Navy base, the brothers of the Crimeans and the entire sea and all of Ukraine .... further the entry of peacekeepers into the Donbass, it was necessary earlier and more, Mariupol was a mistake, but a preventive strike on the Nazis in 2022 was not a mistake, this saved the lives of our soldiers, and made it possible to destroy the air defense and military facilities of the Ukrainian aggressors, and the opinion of the dill and the so-called world community does not interest me, no matter what we do, they will lie and hate, moreover, by 2022 an independent settlement system has been created, rearmament has been carried out, the Ukrainian fascist enthusiasm ... well, V.V. had no way out. Putin, "if a fight cannot be avoided, strike first," you consider yourself the navel of the earth in dill, and the cause of the war is outside the dill, Putin in January 2022 committed an epoch-making act comparable to Ivan the Great who trampled on the demand for tribute from the Golden Horde and threw off the Mongol yoke, Putin canceled the budget rule and this abolition and the transition of the Russian Federation from the status of a colony to the status of a free one and called the SVO as a punishment for disobedience, and you are suffering there at the instigation of the United States, Ukraine is a sacrificial pawn of no value to anyone in a big game, and all the queens in America and Russia are with China, and even Belarus and Iran Mexico Cuba Argentina is no less than a Rook in the world now there are few pawns, Ukraine Poland Somali and miscalculated .. even small Finland and Sweden are more likely not pawns but horses, they seem to be afraid of the USA but they evade and do not join NATO, supposedly they want but they can’t, they just lay down under the usa only you with guns ... if you don’t answer, then it means you gave up and realized you were wrong
            1. -2
              18 February 2023 05: 26
              I see a couch expert - everything is mixed together, both causes and effects, too lazy to argue - stay on your own
              1. 0
                18 February 2023 07: 21
                Quote: Volkonsky
                stay on your own

                you died in an unequal struggle, your delusions are larger than Everest, and the depths fell below the Mariana Trench, your arguments dried up like projectiles in vain, you make a good face on a bad game like Zelensky and try to escape from controversy under the plausible pretext of aka Biden, give up and admit it I am right ... and this is not some kind of fact, but the real truth
                1. +2
                  19 February 2023 11: 03
                  Yes, many at the top, and unfortunately the author was covered by a certain veil of servility from a certain "opinion of the collective and some other West there." As if they can influence, not to mention the simple reporting of facts to this very west. The psychology of the weak, I think so.
          2. -1
            20 February 2023 13: 57
            The author absolutely agrees with you about GDP errors. The fact that we exchanged Crimea for the rest of the already fascist Ukraine, I had a strong opinion even after the 1st Minsk agreements in 2014. The same is true for 2022. The only thing I can express my purely personal opinion is that after the recognition of the L/DPR on February 21.02.2022, XNUMX, it was necessary to conclude collective security agreements with them and immediately deploy troops. Just do not wait for the strike of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (perhaps it would not even follow in this case), but present Zelensky with a short-term ultimatum on the complete cessation of shelling and the disengagement of troops. After the expiration of the ultimatum, which, of course, the Kiev junta would not comply with, start inflicting massive missile strikes on the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the infrastructure of Ukraine. And of course, no invasion or attack on either Kherson or Kyiv. I am sure that then the "kolinkor" both domestic and international would be completely different ...
            1. 0
              21 February 2023 00: 37
              I agree to all 100%
  3. +8
    16 February 2023 21: 43
    The flow of water, simply retells the template news from the Internet.
    An article flashed about 20 thousand mercenaries in the Armed Forces - and here they immediately became 20 thousand.
    And I don’t care that they recently wrote that there are about 1200 of them, and a lot of people are fleeing abroad ...
    Moreover, since nobody listens to Ukro-media, then you can stereotype what you like about him.

    A bit reminiscent of the presentation of the videos of children's Internet and tik-tok: "Oh, boys, what am I going to tell you now, you're swaying ..."
    1. 0
      16 February 2023 22: 18
      and what clever things have you written lately, sergey? while Toko nasty things in my fields! couldn't do more...
      1. +4
        17 February 2023 09: 35
        To each his own. Someone writes odes to the authorities, someone pumps oil from Russia to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, someone grabs Azovstal enterprises on the sly, and someone works in the country and pays taxes ...
        1. -2
          17 February 2023 22: 04
          apparently, you don’t work, you hang around here all day long and blame Putin
      2. -4
        17 February 2023 10: 04
        Dear Vladimir! Excellent analytical article. A little about "talented" commentators who love to stick their nose out from under their blanket with or without reason, but they don't know why they stick out either, and besides, the level of horizons of some has formed and is replenished from (I quote) "children's Internet and tik tok", moreover, no matter what happens, no matter what is discussed, it is from there and exactly like that. Sergei Latyshev (a pseudonym suggests itself: "Serega Pribalt", given the level of knowledge of the Russian language and the lack of any logic in the presentation of his "winged thoughts") wants (as I understand it) to comment on your article, as well as to show that he is " strong in mathematics", but after reading his "sms" you understand that the essence of the set of words and sentences of the entire test is aimed at insulting the author, accusing him of incompetence, lying, etc.. Spelling: the word "hosh "is written with a soft sign, from the word you want, the word" I'll tell you "is written with two letters" c "-I'll tell you, the word "swing" is written with a soft sign - "swing". For reference, "scribblers" - before you say (and write more) "a" - open (in order not to disgrace yourself, and not offend others with your ignorance) - "Dictionary of the Russian language by S.I. Ozhegov". I ask the Baltic friend not to worry, I assure you, it will not seem a little. Learn for yourself and be an example to respect other opinions. I always try to proceed from the law of justice, if I offended anyone, I'm sorry, but you still need to remain friends, as they say, to spite the enemy. Thank you!
        1. -1
          17 February 2023 22: 10
          ATP, Vasily (sorry, I don’t know the patronymic). This fruit is always dissatisfied with everything, even if he wrote with errors, but on business, and so - each barrel has its own plug, no constructive (the commentators above at least created the appearance of a discussion - I answered them, but this is rare here)
    2. 0
      18 February 2023 20: 31
      Sergey, call the kaneshna, maybe you haven’t read it yet, but I would very much like to ask you - And also refute Marzhetsky, or where? Mr. author is fluent in the language and has his own analytics, what about you? And no sho - break-break! Here there is a division of one smart other clever you to the second. And why do you calculate that the author's forecast is worse than your forecast? I can’t stand such self-confident straight gods!
  4. 0
    16 February 2023 22: 01
    in the photo, Degtyar "RPD. I loved him in the army in 1987 to disassemble, clean ...

    where is the ammo box?
  5. +3
    16 February 2023 22: 49
    Society has rallied in the fight against a common enemy, and each new missile raid by the RF Armed Forces on the civilian infrastructure of the Square only multiplies these ranks. Every second was going to fight to the end

    I wonder how Ukraine is now with work?
    The service sector seems to be generally in peacetime.
    Metallurgy - one of the 2 main exporters until 2022 - has decreased by 7 times, although at the same time, let's say railway wheels are still exported to the EU.
    It is clear that there is a supply of money from Zrobitchan.
    But what will they say from the field?

    Theoretically, if there are seams with work for a long time, then no matter how you rally the society with propaganda, but the mob. resource to earn money will leave ...
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  6. +1
    16 February 2023 23: 38
    TNW and SNW are two big differences. The impossibility of using tactical nuclear weapons, as stated in the article, is nothing more than the opinion of the author, not supported by anything other than the thesis "if we bang, it's all gone."
  7. +6
    17 February 2023 01: 00
    There is still a legend for internal Ukrainian use about the use of S-300 anti-aircraft missiles and Onyx anti-ship missiles by the Russian Armed Forces against ground targets in view of the end of their ground-to-ground and air-to-surface missiles.

    In the performance characteristics of the S 300, the possibility of hitting ground targets with known coordinates was laid down in the development process. As an option. In the 90s, these capabilities were tested on practical firing.
    https://tvzvezda.ru/weapon/raketi/201812141354-cwvj.htm Вот пост от Звезды 2018г.
    The work of Onyx Bastions on ground objects was noted back in Syria, 6 years ago.



    This is a video from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. An additional option for any weapon is great if it does not interfere with the main purpose.
    The use of missiles for other purposes is explained by the expiration date and the verification of these very additional options. The C300 is being removed from service and replaced by the C400 in the army. Where are the missiles going? Recycle for money? The bastion is going to be re-equipped with Zircons. The same story.
    In general, the same song as the use of T62 (and their shells) as self-propelled guns. Reasonable prudence in the use of available material values.
    Just like shooting at Ukraine from the Caspian Sea (and from the Volga-Don Canal). It is necessary to check the missiles at a long range, it is necessary to run the personnel in combat firing. Again, guys, this will count. And where to shoot from, from Sevastopol, Novorossiysk or from the Caspian - it doesn't really matter. After all, they fired at Syria from the Caspian and the Black Sea.
    1. +4
      17 February 2023 05: 50
      Quote: boriz
      In the performance characteristics of the S 300, the possibility of hitting ground targets with known coordinates was laid down in the development process.

      Such an opportunity was laid for the S-300PT / PS with 5V55 missiles ... and this was mentioned in publications from the Ministry of Defense! But no one has yet provided reliable information (except blah blah blah ...) that 48N6 missiles can do it! Moreover, these missiles have a slightly different guidance system! The S-300 air defense system may be being removed from service, but the 48N6 zura are included in the ammunition load of the S-400! Moreover, they were the main missiles at the "moment" of the S-400 entering service with the RF Armed Forces and deliveries to China, Turkey ... There remain 5V55 missiles with a range of up to 75 km (90 km) ...! But...Firstly, The S-300PS air defense systems remained in service with the Russian Armed Forces in recent years only in the "deaf" regions of the country, and there it was rapidly withdrawn from service! Secondly, There is something to do with the S-300PS (!) ... it is supplied to the "poor" CIS countries and others ...! Thirdly, Zura 5V55 with a firing range "in the air" have a range of 75 km (according to some reports, up to 90 km), but when firing at ground targets, the range decreases ... the complexes are within reach of long-range "NATO" artillery pieces and "chimers" ! Fourth, air defense systems often fail to cope with the defense of the cities of Donbass due to the "overload" of air defense with enemy MLRS rockets! Simply, zura are spent on "secondary" targets and there are no longer enough of them for "chimers"! Missiles are expensive and they are "at hand" so simply "do not roll"! There is a way out ... "5V55 zura lying" in warehouses "to be disposed of in the Donbass by firing at air targets! This is more expedient and" more useful "than to sneer at ground targets!

      Quote: boriz
      The bastion is going to be re-equipped with Zircons. The same story.

      Yeah ... after the rain, on Thursday! The story of re-equipping with "Zircons" will not be short! And even if there are "Zircons" in the future, in many cases, it will be much more expedient and more profitable to use "Onyxes"! "Onyxes" will exist "in parallel" with "Zircons, as the Onyxes" (PKBK "Bastion") and X-35 (PRBK "Bal") are now used together! The "storage" period has expired? But I believe that the "storage periods" more relevant for solid-propellant rockets and rockets with rocket engines than for "kerosene"!
      1. -1
        17 February 2023 11: 13
        Send your comment to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. I have no doubt that they will change their mind.
      2. 0
        17 February 2023 22: 22
        Nikolaevich - the first reasonable comment, hats off! I see a comrade in the subject, which cannot be said about the others (in vain you, boriz, are ironic over him). Here, many will not distinguish missiles from anti-ship missiles, but all the same - to criticize the author. Tell me, Nikolaevich, is the missile range lower than its ceiling? I thought that in length it flies further than in height
        1. 0
          18 February 2023 15: 02
          Quote: Volkonsky
          Is the missile range lower than its ceiling? I thought that in length it flies further than in height

          1. Often the way it is! Although there is an air defense system, where in the characteristics the range and reach in height ("altitude", "a.m.") are "equivalent"! In principle, air defense systems (SAMs) are possible, where the range ("n.d.") is less than the "altitude"! This usually "happens" with air defense systems (SAMs) with additional missile defense functions ... The relationship between the range and "altitude" may depend on various reasons ... for example, on the launch angle and, even, on the installation of a self-liquidator! And this usually depends on the functional purpose of the complex.
          2. I'm not an "anti-aircraft gunner" myself, but I read an article, though a long time ago, by a former air defense specialist (as he "assured" ...) ... So this article said that in the "ground mode" of the zura (most likely, 5V55 ) with an "air" range of 75 (90) km, they can "shoot" at 30-40 km in the most "convenient" position ... in an "uncomfortable" ... 20-25 km ... By the way, it is worth mentioning the C air defense system -125 and Buk-M1. Here they are "optimized" for firing at ground (surface) targets! But, as a rule, within the line of sight ... of this I am more sure about the Buk!
          1. -1
            18 February 2023 20: 41
            p.s. I saw it! 5V55U missiles have a range of 150 km, like 48N6E, 5V55K (V-500K) / 5V55KD and 5V55S have a range of 47 km
            1. 0
              18 February 2023 23: 44
              For the S-300PT / PS, there are 4 (!) Modifications of the 5V55 SAM! This is: 1.5V55K; 2. 5W55KD ; 3.5V55 R; 4.5V55RM... / 5V55K (47km) and 5V55KD (75km)> with radio command guidance system ("direct" guidance)... 5V55R(75km) and 5V55RM (75km)> with guidance "through the missile" ( TVM) (with a semi-active radar sight / combination of elements of a semi-active radar homing and a radio command guidance system) Some (!) Sources claim that design work was carried out with the 5V55R missile and the range was increased to 90 km ... Therefore, Internet sources often indicate the range zur 5V55R, like 75 (90) km ... SAM 5V55S (that is, with a nuclear warhead) is most likely a myth! The probability that this is "bullshit" is 98%! [Apart from rumors and the assertion of "experienced", "beating their chests" in conversation, there is no reliable (documented!) Information!] And about the 5V55U with a range of 150 km, it's generally not clear where such infa "crawled out"! It defies "common sense" at all!
  8. +1
    17 February 2023 08: 18
    If Poland enters the war, it will hardly be possible to cope without nuclear weapons.
  9. +1
    17 February 2023 08: 34
    All this is similar to the song of the three little pigs from the fairy tale about the gray wolf. We are not afraid of Patriot, Patriot, Patriot. Tra-la-la-la-la-la, la-la-la, la-la-la.
    By the way, in a fairy tale, the pigs escaped in a stone house, from someone who did not jump or wag his tongue, but worked all the time.
    Will someone let us into their house? I doubt.
  10. +6
    17 February 2023 08: 49
    So why don't the APU give up???
    1. -4
      17 February 2023 22: 26
      answered above

      I’m not answering point by point - Putin made his main mistake when, in March 2014, he did not take advantage of Janek’s request to restore the violated constitutional order and the permission of the Federation Council to use Russian troops abroad for this purpose (on March 1, he already had this permission in his pocket). Everything else is a consequence of this error. Yes, there would be no Crimea, but there would be no fascist Ukraine either (with the father in 2020 and with the Tokaev goat in 2022, Putin has not repeated this mistake, and thank God!). His second terrible mistake was the beginning of the NWO and entering the territory of the 404th, with this he untied the hands of the Kyiv regime and here such fascism began that Zelensky could not even dream of. Putin has released this fascist genie from the bottle and it is no longer possible to push it back like paste into a tooth tube. Among the natives, even among those who were initially neutral towards Russia, everything closed up - we were attacked, we must defend ourselves, the end justifies the means. After that, Putin lost all of Ukraine to himself. It was necessary to listen to Gerasimov and send troops only to the Donbass - but when the Banderlog hit him, then it was necessary to respond with all the force of Russian weapons. Right now it's too late to drink Borjomi
  11. +3
    17 February 2023 08: 57
    I, as a highly experienced military specialist, and a real patriot, believe that it is necessary to hit the tyao in Lviv, Ivanofrankivsk and Lutsk, there will be no answer because 3 charges, this is not three thousand that is, and the West will finally believe that the west will finally believe it, a strong blow is simple will lead the West into confusion and fear, and will discourage any desire to prolong aggression, if such a blow saves the life of one Russian soldier, then you need to hit it ... look, Volkonsky will be afraid to argue with me, and the West will be afraid to argue with Russia, seeing her determination
    1. 0
      17 February 2023 16: 17
      Quote: vladimir1155
      will lead the west into confusion and fear

      Or vice versa, it will give him the determination to deliver a preemptive strike, guessing the moment.
      (when all of our SSBNs will be at the bases or at the sight of "Virginia").

      Quote: vladimir1155
      true patriot

      A patriot loves his country, his fellow citizens.
      For him, the risk of NATO retaliation after our use of tactical nuclear weapons is so excessive that it is not negotiable.

      You-hate the United States (Britain, Poland, Ukraine ...) and treat your own country and fellow citizens as consumables, if only to cause damage to the object of hatred.
      1. +2
        17 February 2023 17: 11
        Nelton (Oleg)and you are a talker. There was already one who attributed his assumptions to others, those with whom he did not agree. And then he used these "facts", and did it all the time.
        His name was also Oleg. Yes

        Quote from Nelton.
        You-hate the United States (Britain, Poland, Ukraine ...) and treat your own country and fellow citizens as consumables, if only to cause damage to the object of hatred.

        laughing
    2. -2
      19 February 2023 01: 04
      Vladimir, but if you have cockroaches in your house, will you destroy them by pouring concrete all the way to the ceiling? There will definitely not be cockroaches, but where will you live then?
      1. +1
        19 February 2023 19: 56
        what a stupid idea to fill apartments with concrete!? what prompted you to come up with it? cockroaches and bedbugs periodically appear in my apartments (and very often), however, no one is going to tolerate them tolerantly and be afraid like a cowardly Banderlog jackal, or buy three-way non-functioning imported Western modern means, or a bunch of "specialists" ... I buy KARBOFOS in five-liter bottles, for an average apartment you need only 200 grams (100 with an interval of 14 days), there are no cockroaches, no bedbugs, don’t forget to ventilate the apartment and wash everything after processing
        1. -1
          21 February 2023 21: 10
          So clearly it did not reach you Vladimir. Where you advise to launch a nuclear strike, no one will be able to live for hundreds of years. And this is our Russian territory and we will live there later. This is an analogue of pouring concrete into an apartment to get rid of cockroaches - ukrofascists. Now, if you advised to hit Berlin, Paris, Brussels or Washington, then yes. And since in that proverb - Beat your own so that strangers are afraid. Clearly I hope now at least?
  12. +1
    17 February 2023 09: 06
    Other "experienced military experts" talk about short-lived nuclear isotopes with which these bombs and missiles are allegedly stuffed, they say, nothing bad will happen, we'll hit it, and in a couple of years we'll be picking mushrooms there. We will not!

    Here you can argue. Nuclear weapons leaving almost no nuclear trace are available. It's called a neutron bomb. Exploded at a height, it practically does not infect the area. Most importantly, the neutron bomb is an effective means of protecting against massive tank attacks, if any follow. That's right, the use of nuclear weapons on the battlefield and not against the civilian population in the rear. Another question is whether Russia has neutron munitions. Maybe they were destroyed in the 90s in pro-Western courage
    1. 0
      17 February 2023 09: 44
      It is possible to create tactical thermonuclear weapons using americium-242 instead of plutonium in "fuses"! Well, plus the "careful" use of such weapons ... Then the problem of radioactive contamination of the area will not be "acutely relevant"!
    2. +2
      17 February 2023 09: 47
      The neutron bomb differs from the usual one only in structural features. If the drawings remain, it is not difficult to repeat. The neutron bomb also has a minimal shock wave. I read at one time that its equivalent is 5 tons of TNT. And this is like a good mine. The enemy will not soon understand what exploded. Well, neutrons are quite capable of destroying everything within a kilometer radius. Therefore, I also believe that neutron ammunition should be started to shy away. Especially if they use shells with uranium cores.
  13. +3
    17 February 2023 09: 41
    Author, too much aplomb! It's hard to even read!
    1. -3
      17 February 2023 22: 29
      and who forces? do not read! why force yourself?
  14. +6
    17 February 2023 10: 00
    the author is in vain offended by the criticism of readers of this nonsense! He asks them to "explain"! But many of them "is it necessary?"! Firstly, there are so many absurdities in the article that you just don’t want to waste time and “move your convolutions” in order to “prove” these absurdities! Secondly, some readers perceive absurdity at the subconscious level! (It often happens when "someone" immediately rejects some project, proposal ... When he is immediately asked "why?", he often cannot answer right away; because the consciousness does not keep up with the subconscious! But then, when the "debriefing" begins, it turns out that "someone" was right and why!)
    1. -2
      17 February 2023 22: 30
      Can you at least bring up a couple of absurdities
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  15. +4
    17 February 2023 11: 18
    TNW launched in the form of a projectile will not pull the response of countries with a "red button". Because they only learn about the explosion as a fact. Someone will sign after that because of Ukraine to start a total war on the destruction of all life? Hardly. But the effect of such an event on the enemy can be colossal. Consequences? Sanctions? I don't think there's anything to scare us...
  16. +1
    17 February 2023 16: 08
    Every day I look through the Ukrainian media and publics. Sometimes it is useful to know what the enemy "breathes". Therefore, I want to share my observations on the use of S-300 missiles by the RF Armed Forces. Indeed, I agree with the author that Ukrainian propaganda is credited with the widespread use of S-300 missiles by us against ground targets, referring to the fact that the Russians have an unmeasured supply of them and they need to be put somewhere. I agree with the author and with the fact that the main reason for the "transfer of arrows" to the S-300 in Nezalezhnaya is precisely the opportunity to justify the misses of their own air defense, where the S-300 is actually the main air defense system. True, at the same time, a Ukrainian. Propaganda and the "riverman Ignat" never say that the S-300, when used against ground targets, have a short range (up to 85 km.) The situation in the Ukrainian looked quite funny. Media after a massive missile attack on February 10. So the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine after the attack issued a report on the successful work of the PPO of Ukraine, saying that out of 71 launched missiles, 61 were shot down (already 86% !!!). However, then the same Ignat and some media (for example, Ukrayinska Pravda) issued such a message. Citing the same statistics 71-61, at the end of the report it was indicated that in total 106 missiles were launched in Ukraine that day?! It was necessary to see and read the comments of some Ukrainian patriots at the same UP, who, against the backdrop of general rejoicing at such a successful work of the PPO, expressed bewilderment, what was the fate of another 35 missiles and why are they not taken into account in the statistics? In the resulting extensive debate among readers, the Ukrainian layman came to the conclusion that those 35 unaccounted for missiles were precisely S-300 missiles, and since they were ballistic, it was simply impossible to shoot them down. It is interesting that later Ignat also confirmed this version of the "invulnerability" of the S-300 missiles in an interview. Therefore, recalling this comical situation, I come to the conclusion and ask you, dear readers and experts: Why do we use a lot of low-efficiency cruise missiles when we have huge stocks of invulnerable S-300 missiles with 100% efficiency?! True, in Nezalezhnaya, for some reason, not a single expert has ever asked such a question ... wassat
    1. +1
      17 February 2023 19: 58
      That's right, brother dashing. comment + . I'm not military...
      but I think that with 300 the reserve is 30 or more km., And the low-efficiency lionfish is 1500.
  17. +5
    17 February 2023 17: 20
    For an unprepared person, the article will go just like cheese into butter. Butter oil. Everything is mixed up here. And porridge and an axe. A piece of bacon, well, etc. And where is the answer to the title of the article? Why? Answer: because because. Pen Wizard Analytics. What does zorro rely on? To what specific statements of official, or authoritative publications, experts. So, a set of letters and numbers. Although, I must admit, the style is not bad. For essay - 5+, for authenticity - 3-.
    1. -1
      17 February 2023 22: 35
      the name is given by the editor, about the stubbornness (innocentity) of Ukrainians, I answered above

      I’m not answering point by point - Putin made his main mistake when, in March 2014, he did not take advantage of Janek’s request to restore the violated constitutional order and the permission of the Federation Council to use Russian troops abroad for this purpose (on March 1, he already had this permission in his pocket). Everything else is a consequence of this error. Yes, there would be no Crimea, but there would be no fascist Ukraine either (with the father in 2020 and with the Tokaev goat in 2022, Putin has not repeated this mistake, and thank God!). His second terrible mistake was the beginning of the NWO and entering the territory of the 404th, with this he untied the hands of the Kyiv regime and here such fascism began that Zelensky could not even dream of. Putin has released this fascist genie from the bottle and it is no longer possible to push it back like paste into a tooth tube. Among the natives, even among those who were initially neutral towards Russia, everything closed up - we were attacked, we must defend ourselves, the end justifies the means. After that, Putin lost all of Ukraine to himself. It was necessary to listen to Gerasimov and send troops only to the Donbass - but when the Banderlog hit him, then it was necessary to respond with all the force of Russian weapons. Right now it's too late to drink Borjomi
      1. 0
        18 February 2023 22: 54
        Dear author, with all my loyalty to you, unlike some of the local commentators, I also want to reproach you for some of the points you made about Putin's mistakes. I am sure that you most likely need to abandon this template, because if this is an erroneous cause, then it will pull (and pull) an erroneous effect, which again generates erroneous causes and effects, and so on in a circle. The narrative loses relevance and raises doubts in assessing the situation. And in order to exclude this, I repeat, it is necessary to exclude any * mistakes * of Putin. After all, everyone knows that our president does not make any decisions personally. That would be just arrogance. Any action on the fronts is carefully studied in the General Staff and only then is it either approved by the president or finalized to the level of application. Therefore, your statement that Putin's first (and further) mistake was ... the refusal to send troops to Ukraine at the request of Yanukovych is not and could not be any mistake, much less become the cause of subsequent events. Here, since you put forward such an option, you would need to describe the dynamics of the consequences of this input. You yourself admit that there would be no Crimeanash. Correctly admit from the point of view of the Ukrainian. But, Putin was confident from the position of the Russian-speaking population of Crimea. Crimea was not conquered, but was annexed to Russia as a result of the will of the Crimeans. At the same time, your statements that there would be no fascist Ukraine are not entirely clear. I don’t know, maybe you don’t quite know History, or don’t want to know, but Ukraine was fascist long before its formation by V. I. Lenin. Whether you like it or not, this is how it is. The second mistake from your filing is the beginning of Putin's CVO against Ukraine, unleashing the hands of someone there. A simple question - And what does Ukraine have to do with it? If you carefully read the goals and objectives of the NWO, you should know that the purpose of the operation was to protect the Donbass and its population from destruction by the Kyiv regime. And even before the start of the operation, Putin presented an ultimatum to NATO from advancing to the borders of Russia. Ukraine, represented by the Kyiv regime, has become a barrier paid for by the West. Well, the assertion that Putin lost Ukraine by his actions looks completely incredible. Or maybe Putin does not need such a Ukraine?
        1. 0
          19 February 2023 14: 29
          I don’t know, maybe you don’t quite know History, or don’t want to know, but Ukraine was fascist long before it was formed by V. I. Lenin

          Because you it you say seriously, it follows that you have serious problems not only in the field of historical knowledge, but also in the field of cognitive abilities ... winked
          1. 0
            21 February 2023 21: 44
            Are you serious, Vox? , I wonder how it was possible to reformat the whole country, except for the eastern regions, into hatred for the Russians? I have relatives in Anthracite, so they called those behind the Donbass not fascists, but Westerners who always hated Russians! Maybe then explain how it was possible to reformat the Warsaw Pact countries that the Red Army liberated by paying hundreds of thousands of lives of Soviet soldiers for hatred of the USSR and then Russia? The very West is a hotbed of fascism and nationalism? And nothing needed to be reformatted into fascists if they were all originally fascist. A striking example is Poland and the price of its liberation is 600000 thousand of our soldiers. Such gratitude? Is the US not a fascist country? Maybe you don’t know, so I’ll remind you that if it weren’t for the Soviet Union there would be no Nurberg and who then warmed up all the fascist criminals on their territory? And England, which wanted to start a war against the USSR immediately after the victory over Nazi Germany? So if you were born a fascist, you do not need to be reformatted into a fascist and there is already a fascist! Cognitive abilities? Maybe you have problems with this? Yes, history too!
        2. -1
          19 February 2023 20: 11
          I agree, Volkonsky has already reposted his "answer" three times, but in reality, after his repeated calls to write him a list of his mistakes, having received this list from me, maliciously afraid of publicly sitting in a puddle, he evaded answers because he was obviously wrong, (there is nothing for him to cover up, no him ways against Kostya Saprykin), and is trying to shift the arrows from his obvious mistakes to Putin's ephemeral "mistakes", which are not there, when I explained this to him, he simply fled into the bushes under a plausible pretext
          https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pkU8NINR_w0
  18. 0
    17 February 2023 20: 08
    Well, the last information myth, which is firmly planted in the minds of our domestic patriots, concerns our use of tactical and strategic nuclear weapons (TNW and SNF). Here, some people are already simply dreaming of him, reproaching the Kremlin and the General Staff for weakness and softness. Other "experienced military experts" talk about short-lived nuclear isotopes with which these bombs and missiles are allegedly stuffed, they say, nothing bad will happen, we'll hit it, and in a couple of years we'll be picking mushrooms there. We will not! TNW, and even more so SNW, are doomsday weapons. After we use it on a potential enemy (and I don’t think it will come to that!) An answer will immediately follow, and a person in a bearskin with a stone ax will pick mushrooms there and not earlier than two hundred years later. There should be no illusions

    Perhaps the only thing we can definitely agree with!

    Only irresponsible Western politicians from the generation of fearless idiots, such as Boris Johnson or Annalena Burbock, who have never seen any war in their lives, and read about the consequences of a nuclear explosion only in books, can suffer from such illusions.

    And this is a frank distortion, since completely different people made contradictory, ambiguous and unambiguous statements about nuclear weapons, not to mention the countless comments of domestic inadequate jingoists mentioned by the author!
    1. -1
      17 February 2023 22: 38
      Johnson and Burbock insist on continuing the war, emphasizing that the Russians will not use any tactical nuclear weapons, you need to think before accusing the author of distorting
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        21 February 2023 21: 59
        The author of this Vox is clearly a ukronatsik, it is useless for him to prove anything. It's right when he says who is against that is not right.
  19. +2
    17 February 2023 20: 11
    This "writer" said back in August that "... I know for sure that by February Russian tanks will be on the banks of the Western Bug."
    His literary opuses are suitable only for station toilets.
    1. -1
      17 February 2023 22: 40
      something, I see that you do not climb out of them
  20. +1
    20 February 2023 09: 30
    Shashkamakhatel, why didn’t the front line move away from Donetsk in a year
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      21 February 2023 22: 01
      Aslan yes because you have no idea how the front lines move back.