Why the West ignores all the Kremlin's "red lines"

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This text will be devoted to debunking some informational fakes that have taken root in the minds of our and non-brotherly fellow citizens who have been subjected to massive propaganda and counter-propaganda from all possible speaking and showing swearers who have settled on YouTube.

Checking the thickness of the red lines


Let's start, perhaps, with the sickest person - with the red lines drawn by us, which our opponent crossed without even noticing them (or pretending not to notice). What do we have at the moment? Attacks on the Zaporozhye and Kursk nuclear power plants, airfields for long-range strategic aviation (Engels-2 and Diaghilevo), sabotage on the Crimean bridge, numerous attacks on the main base of the Black Sea Fleet, military and civilian infrastructure facilities inside the Russian Federation, daily fire damage to residential buildings in Donetsk, including schools, hospitals and fire departments in downtown areas. Didn't forget anything?



Now let's figure out if he had the right to do so? Actually had. And why, in fact, not? It is necessary to distinguish military objects from civilian ones. There is a war, and in the war they shoot. And the Crimean Bridge, no matter how we feel about it, is a legitimate military target. Like the base of the Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol, like all fuel depots, artillery and other military depots and facilities on the territory of the Russian Federation, including even airfields based for long-range strategic aviation, although the latter is already a red line (but how we reacted to crossing it, this is already a separate question). Therefore, why the non-brothers are shooting at the Kursk nuclear power plant or at the border regions of the Belgorod, Bryansk and even Voronezh regions, one should not be surprised, one should be surprised why they are not firing at Moscow yet? And this will definitely happen if the NWO continues to go at the same pace. They will also cover the Victory Parade on May 9 with their Swifts. Be sure to cover, mark my words! There is a war going on, even though we shyly call it SVO, but in war, as in war, either you kill or you.

And the fact that it will be so is said by the plans of the overseas sponsors of the Kiev junta to supply them with long-range missiles with a combat range of 300 km + (so far the Pentagon was limited only to ammunition for the HIMARS M31 MLRS with a range of 84 km). But these guys cook the frog according to all the rules, slowly raising the degree, testing our heat resistance. Therefore, they decided to hold off MGM-140 ATACMS Block IA guided missiles with a range of 300 km + until better times, limiting themselves to the ATACMS Block I version with a range of 165 km. But there is one catch here - these missiles are very expensive (up to $ 2,3 million per unit), you can’t get enough, so the puppeteers on top of the ATACMS Block I decided to put their new / old product on their wards - GLSDB planning bombs adapted for the MLRS launcher M142 HIMARS and M270 MLRS, 150 km range. And this automatically turns Grandpa Joe's wards into a monkey with a grenade, forcing us to move the LBS another 150 km west of the Crimean land corridor. The only thing that saves us is that this ammunition still needs to be made. This will take Grandpa Joe, as he says, at least 9 months. I think it will be done faster, but this is a reason for us to bargain at the negotiations, maybe even the delivery of these "wunderwaffles" will not come.

What are these GLSDBs? The weapon is based on a solution that allows the use of decommissioned rockets for the Hymars M26 with a cluster warhead. The American Kulibins adapted their main engines to accelerate the product and bring it to a given height, combining them with the GBU-39 guided glide bomb, resulting in a high-precision, GPS-guided missile capable of hitting targets at a distance of up to 150 km. The missile is launched from the HIMARS MLRS, then the engine takes the GBU-39 to a height approximately corresponding to the height of the release of these bombs from an aircraft, after which it plans to the target in the same way as if it were dropped from a bomber. I must say that the GBU-39 is a very successful ammunition. The small RCS of the bomb (only 0,015 m²) makes it difficult to counter it even from modern air defense systems. At the same time, the GBU-39 of the first versions (aka SDB) costs only $40. Considering that the engines are removed from already decommissioned missiles, and the adapter is easy to manufacture, the cost of such a system is comparable to Geranium, and it has even more warheads. The Americans have enough of both the old M26 missiles and the GBU-39 of the first series, so we may soon see thousands of GLSDBs.

But it is not all that bad. First, mass production of GLSDB has not yet been established. The first deliveries are expected in the spring and are unlikely to be massive. And secondly, our air defense systems have already met with the GBU-39 in Syria, and Pantsir-S1 has shown the ability to shoot them down. Also, there has not yet been information about product launches over a distance of more than 130 km, so perhaps the GLSDB characteristics are somewhat overestimated. The warhead of the product is relatively small - only 93 kg, and does much less damage than regular HIMARS strikes. But even this is enough for us, because the enemy will receive a means to influence our rear. All the liberated territories, as well as part of Crimea, are at risk of defeat. Moreover, in the affected area are Bryansk, Belgorod and Kursk (including the Kursk NPP). No one can guarantee that the Kiev regime will limit itself to strikes only within the limits of the actions of the NMD, and it must be admitted that the supply of long-range ammunition only leads to an escalation of the conflict. Which is exactly what Washington wants.

Now let's deal with Kyiv's goal setting. We have already understood that in war, as in war, it happens that they shoot. But why do these ghouls hit the peaceful quarters of Donetsk, including hospitals, and with special cynicism, with repeated cover, waiting for the arrival of ambulances and firefighters? At the same time, they also complain about the lack of shells, which they are given on a residual basis (but these ghouls always have enough shells for Donetsk). I answer - because Donetsk is not a civilian, but a military goal for them. To understand their logic, you need to remember what Putin promised when starting the NWO? And he promised to save the inhabitants of the LDNR from the genocide. As a result, the genocide only intensified - Donetsk has never known such shelling for 8 years of blockade. These ghouls are not hitting civilians in the capital of Donbass out of bloodthirstiness, their logic is simple here - to prove to the residents of Donbass that Putin did not fulfill his promises, not only put Donetsk under attack instead of liberation, but also left it without water. This is the cynicism of war - it is a pity for shells for bloodthirstiness, and if bloodthirstiness is supported by a great idea, then it is no longer a pity, the end justifies the means. Without a purpose, bloodthirstiness is just sadism, but someone has to pay for sadism;

The degree of incompetence is astounding


So, we figured out the shelling of peaceful cities, let's move on to other misconceptions. Here in the first place stands a reproach to our military leaders, the General Staff and the Kremlin, which they will not smash into the trash the bridges across the Dnieper, railways and other infrastructure responsible for the logistics of ammunition and heavy equipment for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from behind a hillock? If this is not stupidity, then sabotage or collusion with the enemy for sure. This is the opinion of the majority of sofa experts of varying degrees of engagement and immersion in ongoing events.

At the same time, the degree of incompetence of some of our and Ukrainian experts simply rolls over. But if Ukrainian military experts can still be accused of propaganda (for example, as was the case with S-300 anti-aircraft missiles, which, according to them, Russian barbarians use in residential areas of peaceful Ukrainian cities, compensating for the lack of conventional strike missiles), then our military experts can be blamed I can’t do propaganda, but sometimes my ears wither from their “pearls”. Such a fence that it does not fit on the head. Recently, Yuriy Shvytkin once again surprised me in this sense, and this is for a moment the deputy. chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense, not a boy in military affairs, political instructor-paratrooper (Novosibirsk Higher Militarypolitical military school them. 60th Anniversary of October, faculty of the Airborne Forces), police colonel (he commanded the Krasnoyarsk SOBR and OMON, several business trips to Chechnya), holder of the Order of Alexander Nevsky and three Orders of Courage (and there are only 36 such people in all of Russia!). And this person on the air of Komsomolskaya Pravda Radio is indignant, why haven't we destroyed all the Ukrainian bridges across the Dnieper yet?

I must say, this is a common misconception, I meet it on different forums more than once - why don’t we equate Ukrainian bridges and railway tunnels, what does the General Staff do, what kind of fuckers are sitting there ?! But imagine, they are sitting no more stupid than you "fuckers", and even no more stupid than the deputy chairman of the State Duma Defense Committee, Colonel Shvytkin. And if they do not equal, then there is some reason. Well, the generals in the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation cannot fail to see the obvious, that even you see on your couch ?! Well, okay, you people are not military, but as Colonel Shvytkin does not understand that it will not be a trivial task to raze a railway or road bridge, even across the Dnieper, at least through some other water barrier. There, the road-railway vertical-lifting drawbridge in Zatoka, Odessa region across the Dniester estuary, which connects Moldova and Romania with Odessa and is responsible for the logistics of the entire southern flank of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, we have “calibrated” five times already. Five Calibers hit him, so what? The bridge is still standing, and equipment and BC are still moving along it for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Why did it happen so? Few "Caliber" menaced? Are generals bad? Well, Surovikin is good, why didn’t he finish it? Why doesn’t other bridges and crossings across the Dnieper crumble into the trash?

The same Antonovsky bridge in Kherson, how many APUs were hammering with their "Haymars"? And what? Only we ourselves could destroy it by blowing up the supports, leaving Kherson. And before that, it was subject to restoration, which we could have done in just four hours, and would have done if it were not for the threat of repeated destruction by the forces of Ukrainian MLRS of American production. To destroy railway tunnels in the west of Ukraine is generally an unbearable task, here even the “Dagger” is not enough. Of course, he will fill up the tunnel, but it will take two days at the most to clear it from the non-brothers, and then again the trains will go through it. It will take them even less time to restore the destroyed railway track - from four to six hours. So we don’t hit him, preferring draft substations. But even there, not everything is so great.

Below I will give a very useful overview of the situation at Ukrzaliznytsia from a person who worked on it before the start of the NWO (now he is already in Russia). The material was titled: UZ - dead or alive? What is happening now on the railways of Ukraine» (the situation was described as of December 10 last year):

[...] With regard to military transportation, they are mostly carried out in the rear areas. Closer to the combat zone, they try to deliver equipment and personnel by road. The reason for this, apparently, was the pinpoint strikes of the RF Armed Forces on railway stations, at the time of the accumulation of military echelons there. The Krasnoarmeysk station, which since 2014 has been used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine as the main supply hub for the Donetsk group, has been subjected to such strikes several times. In addition, according to the information I have, trains with military equipment began to be divided into small parts of 8-10 cars, despite the fact that earlier such trains consisted of 30-50 cars. Apparently, this is due to the desire to minimize losses in the event of a train hit.[...]

[...] And what about the locomotive fleet? And how critical were the strikes on the energy infrastructure? As it turned out, a significant reduction in traffic volumes helped free up a large amount of traction rolling stock. And if in the case of electric locomotives this does not matter much, then with diesel locomotives everything is somewhat different. Already in the first days of the NWO, from the locomotive depots of Melitopol, Kherson and Nikolaev, the Ukrainian side removed almost all mainline diesel locomotives, including the new TE33AS. They were immediately sent to the Lviv railway, where there was a large shortage of diesel locomotives. Taking into account the drop in traffic and the evacuation of diesel locomotives from the south, it was possible to create some reserve, which was very useful when power outages began.[...]

[...] Already the first strikes on traction substations have shown that not much time is needed for a full restoration of traffic. In this case, the locomotive depots already had diesel locomotives prepared for departure, which promptly took trains out of de-energized sections. It is possible that competent actions on the part of the management of UZ became the reason for the cessation of missile attacks on the energy sector of the Ukrainian railways. Again, looking at the events of November, when most of Ukraine was left without electricity for several days after massive rocket attacks, delays of 2-3 hours for passenger trains do not seem so big. It is worth considering that in the event of a power failure, the issue is not only to replace an electric locomotive with a diesel locomotive, but also to organize traffic in the conditions of non-functioning signaling and communication facilities, which also takes a lot of time.[...]

As you can see, not everything is as simple as it seems to you from your combat sofa. And our problems are connected not only with the poor organization of database maintenance and sabotage at the highest level, but also with objective reasons, among which the competent actions of the enemy, which we encountered in the Ukrainian theater of operations, are not in the last place.

The rest of the "why", so as not to overload your brain, I will cover in the next text. There are still a lot of them there. Not saying goodbye. Your Mr. Z
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    1. 0
      15 February 2023 18: 25
      Yes, the goal is not to seize territories, especially by a certain date.

      Firstly, there is a loss ratio of 1 to 5-7, and this suits the Russian Federation. In other words: the demilitarization of Ukraine is underway in a ratio that is favorable for us.

      Secondly, demilitarization is going on in four regions, without destroying the remaining 20 regions of Ukraine, which WE HAVE to restore later. Four areas are easier to recover than 24.

      Thirdly, there is a weakening of the West - curtailment of production, unemployment, inflation. In addition, and most importantly, political discord in Europe is beginning.

      Fourthly, the Russian military-industrial complex is being tested, against NATO standards - the elimination of weaknesses and the polishing of strengths.

      The main initial reason for the delay in the SVO is the lack of infantry in contract soldiers. The Russian Federation had a bet on high-tech contract soldiers, but the infantry was perceived as archaic. Ukraine has shown that it is too early to write off the infantry.

      However, during the course of the JEE, four positive points emerged, which I have indicated above. And because - now no one is in a hurry anywhere.
      1. -2
        15 February 2023 20: 01
        I laughed at this reasoning, especially with the ratios of losses, and the running-in of the domestic military-industrial complex.
        Keep it up!
        1. -4
          16 February 2023 01: 26
          Sol, Sulla Glorious, like any reasonable person, described the situation exactly as it really is, and this can cause nothing but laughter from people like you. Although it is you with your reasoning that causes laughter and nothing more! I'll downvote you too.
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          2. +5
            16 February 2023 09: 38
            Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
            described the situation exactly as it really is

            Why is the west curtailing production?

            Quote: Sulla the Glorious
            demilitarization is going on in four regions, without destroying the remaining 20 regions of Ukraine, which WE HAVE to restore later. Four areas are easier to recover than 24.

            Due to the fact that we will liberate four regions from Ukraine, the conflict will not go out.
          3. 0
            16 February 2023 11: 18
            Oleg, a reasonable person would not write such heresy. Don't be fooled.
          4. +5
            16 February 2023 14: 23
            In Makiivka alone, more than 300 people died from the blows of the Hymers. The footage of the offensive of our troops near Ugledar is shocking. What is the ratio of losses of 1 to 5 can we talk about?
      2. +2
        16 February 2023 08: 25
        Quote: Sulla the Glorious
        Firstly, there is a loss ratio of 1 to 5-7, and this suits the Russian Federation.

        The fact that the attacking side suffers 5-7 fold losses is normal. But for this to suit the attacking side, this is too much like that.
      3. +8
        16 February 2023 09: 54
        Thirdly, there is a weakening of the West - curtailment of production, unemployment, inflation. In addition, and most importantly, political discord in Europe begins

        unfortunately, all these statements - last year's spoiled "noodles" for the Russians, did not work from the word "in general"
      4. +6
        16 February 2023 09: 58
        The advantageous position of Russia in the ratio of losses of 1 to 5 - this means 100 crests for 000 of ours. What is the benefit. I understand that it is necessary to justify the idiocy of the leadership, but nothing justifies the death of our people.
      5. -4
        16 February 2023 11: 19
        Healthy reasoning. I would also like to add that the restoration of these areas is orders and work for people. Remember the moaning of metallurgists because of the sanctions? Where are their screams now? Everything is simple, only the restoration of Mariupol blocked the volumes that fell as a result of sanctions with orders! This is roughly why our Western partners are constantly adjusting our GDP forecast upward...
        1. +4
          16 February 2023 11: 39
          Quote: Saffron
          I would also like to add that the restoration of these areas is orders and work for people.

          You break your own house, and then restore it. There will be something to do.
          1. -4
            16 February 2023 13: 21
            Why break something that functions normally. It is better to build another one, it will come in handy. And you, I see a man of extremes?
            1. +3
              16 February 2023 15: 43
              So you write that the restoration of areas is orders and work for people. They will restore it at our expense, I don’t see any profits from the word at all. One loss.
              1. -2
                17 February 2023 07: 52
                Don’t worry, your money won’t be touched, they’ll just print as much as they need, since no one forbids it now, only because of this it’s very hysterical in the West, because only they could print money before
        2. +2
          16 February 2023 13: 12
          Yes, you are an economist from God. Why not demolish all the panels and build modern houses in Russia instead? How many orders will be! GDP will double or even triple!
          I urgently recommend you as a minister.
          1. 0
            16 February 2023 13: 20
            What do you think they are doing in Moscow now? Yes, exactly this!!!
            1. 0
              16 February 2023 15: 49
              What, just like that, good houses are being demolished? My friend bought his daughter an apartment in Moscow about 11 years ago. The panel, as they said, was being demolished. When they saw how many people there were in the owners, this little house suddenly turned out to be very good and somehow they forgot about its demolition.
    2. +3
      15 February 2023 18: 48
      Everything is lost!!! You need to run "hello" before it's too late. Nothing can be done, there is nothing! There are no funds, no brains. If there are doubts about the first, then none about the second. a rocket (not a grenade) will fly in, they won’t clear it in a year. It all depends on professionalism. Bridges can also be dumped if the designers and engineers of such bridges are still alive, they know the vulnerable points and where you can hit for sure. Most likely, no one needs it. I am sure of one thing - there are no unsolvable problems. Unless, of course, it comes ... rock and not a paralytic. And the explanation is "it's not so simple", this is the lot of mediocrity and power. Yes, and there are not so many such bridges. Simple ones also play a role .Especially if there are no others!
      1. -5
        15 February 2023 21: 22
        I see another sofa designer of bridges and tunnels! tell this to our boobies-generals, otherwise they don’t know without you, the bridge in Zatoka does not say anything?
        1. 0
          16 February 2023 09: 43
          Quote: Volkonsky
          the bridge in Zatoka says nothing?

          He says that our Calibers and drones are worse than Chimeras, with which the Ukrainians damaged the Kherson bridge.
    3. +4
      15 February 2023 19: 04
      US managers are not afraid of anything and no one, they keep their money in their own banks, the property is located in their own country, and no one can do anything to them, you can’t freeze their money in their own banks.
      1. +1
        16 February 2023 01: 08
        Any bandyuk, Elena, until you make a bloody mess out of your face, also bullies and is not afraid of anything and anyone. And as soon as it gets quieter the water below the grass. It will be the same with the USA. Get it, beg and get it so that the grandchildren will remember!
      2. +5
        16 February 2023 19: 27
        So it is necessary to make sure that they do not protrude beyond their territory, where their banks and their real estate are.
    4. +11
      15 February 2023 19: 38
      At the very beginning, we were annoyed by the shelling of civilians in Donbass. Then it became annoying not being able to fight these attacks. After all, the range of a rocket or projectile is no more than 150 km. Is it really impossible to clear such a distance around Donetsk and Lugansk in a year?
      1. -6
        15 February 2023 21: 25
        conventional projectile range - 28 km, Excalibur - 60 km
    5. +16
      15 February 2023 19: 47
      Solid excuses. Yes, it's not easy to disable completely. And even not very easy. However, the railwayman himself, for example, said that the destruction of the signaling and security building, which are available at the hub and more or less large stations, seriously complicates the movement. However, bridges? Destruction of large railway bridges is impossible? But what about our pilots in the Great Patriotic War? Bombed and destroyed, although a difficult target. And now they can't. Well, let them admit they can or not. If not, then why do we need planes worth billions of rubles. Let's bang a tactical nuclear missile then? No-no-no!!! Well, then let's put down thousands of our fighters before we hit the brought weapons. And what a choice.
      1. +14
        15 February 2023 20: 17
        We look at the declared characteristics of the Dagger. KVO - 1m. Head - half a ton. It seems to me alone that with a concrete-piercing warhead, this is quite enough in hypersound to demolish the support of any bridge?
        1. +4
          16 February 2023 09: 52
          that's enough

          the support will not be demolished, but the superstructure (trusses / beams) should be destroyed very significantly ... given that the repair of the Crimean bridge will stretch for almost a year - we must try, try, not be inactive!
      2. -6
        15 February 2023 21: 49
        Alexey, and if we destroy the bridges, then everything will be a victory? Or, apart from bridges, the supply of weapons will not stop? Everything is written by the author. Not so simple! Just go with diarrhea...
      3. +1
        16 February 2023 22: 18
        I think when we defeat bridges and railway junctions, the enemy (meaning not the APU, but the Anglo-Saxons) hints at us that the same objects are already on our territory. And I think it's holding back.
    6. +5
      15 February 2023 20: 16
      All nonsense. Noodles for the zombie electorate.

      Has anyone read about the "red lines" in the negotiations and agreements between the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR? No .
      There were none. And there was the hard work of diplomats, relying on the power of the economy or the army, let it be a serf. And then successful treaties were called by the name of diplomats.

      Can you remember the treaty named after Lavrov? Medvedev? Putin?
      Didn't float...
      The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Lavrov are famous for something completely different. Concessions of territories, smuggling, protection of oligarchs, scandals, evictions, obscenities.

      They wrote here for a long time - that the world is directly listening, with bated breath, that the Guarantor said the imperishable ....
      And everything is exactly the opposite.
      Everyone is already used to the fact that whatever the Kremlin promises verbally, it will break its word. And he will remember after 5-10 years - "But Obama / Berezovsky / Trump / Poroshenko / Yanukovych promised me ..."

      Verbal Red lines - like a rag for a bull - everyone starts demanding to cross it. Provocateurs, politicians, oligarchs, military... Just so as not to lose face.
      One thing is good, the inertia of the bureaucracy is such that while they are crossed ... years may pass ....
      Look, in the article, there are a couple of examples ...
      1. -8
        15 February 2023 21: 39
        All nonsense. Noodles for the zombie electorate.

        yeah, you are not our brainwashed, remembered the successes of the diplomats of the Republic of Ingushetia, remind me what they were like after the Crimean War, and after the Japanese? The Russians were different in that all their successes on the battlefield were pissed off at the negotiating table

        By the way, don't rush to bury us! it seems to me that the West was blown away, whether the TNW in the North Sea had such an impact, or some other Putin’s toys that you don’t know about yet (and even I don’t know, but they exist!), But only the West began to surrender backwards - Rammstein-9 ended in nothing! And what?!
        1. +2
          15 February 2023 23: 05
          Quote: Volkonsky
          Rammstein-9 ended in nothing! And what?!

          As a version - and with the current means of the Armed Forces of Ukraine they hold the front line.

          More is not required of them.
        2. +6
          16 February 2023 00: 38
          Good take on cheating. To replace "achievements of diplomacy" with defeats in the war.
          But in real life - the failures of diplomacy before the Crimean and before the Japanese - were repeatedly described in VO, for example

          Well, when it "seems" - it is well known what to do ...
      2. -5
        16 February 2023 01: 03
        Yes, Sergey, the world is really listening with bated breath to what our Guarantor will say to the imperishable. But you, with your worldview and attitude towards both our country and our Guarantor, prove that you are not of this world! It is useless to call people like you to conscience, right?
        1. +1
          16 February 2023 09: 48
          the world is really listening with bated breath to what our Garan will say to the imperishable

          I'm sorry but this is completely outdated.
    7. +8
      15 February 2023 20: 20
      I want to ask a question to Mr. X. The weight of the "Caliber" charge is 450 kg of explosives, while "Hmairs" has 65 kg - 7 (seven) times less, you are our "competent"! or did they put shit in the "caliber" instead of explosives ?! didn't hit? so arrows!
      1. -10
        15 February 2023 21: 54
        Mister's name is not X, but Z, finally. Caliber warhead ranges from 200 kg to 400-450 kg (depending on the type of missile), the filling is either high-explosive penetrating or high-explosive fragmentation, the cost of one cruise missile is 350 thousand dollars (minimum). The bridge in Zatoka has already cost us $2 million and is still standing. How much more do you need to swell into it for you to believe that this goal is not for Caliber, are you our highly experienced? But the Antonovsky Bridge was never destroyed by the Khaimars - the Yankees put an unmeasured cloud of them there, 12 packages of 6 missiles each, the cost of one launch was $ 1 million, a total of 12 lyams - and all in vain! (they blew up the supports themselves, leaving Kherson)
        1. +4
          16 February 2023 09: 48
          Quote: Volkonsky
          But the Antonovsky Bridge was never destroyed by the Khaimars - the Yankees put an unmeasured cloud of them there, 12 packages of 6 missiles each, the cost of one launch was $ 1 million, a total of 12 lyams - and all in vain! (they blew up the supports themselves, leaving Kherson)

          Then explain the true reason for leaving Kherson, where posters like "Russia forever!" hung.
      2. -9
        15 February 2023 21: 59
        Nike, you and your kind have already got your stupid thirst for destruction! Why CAN'T if there is the necessary caliber 450 kg ammunition. Damn, yes, they can only until there is a need for it! Entrust you and your like (God forbid) to fight there, they would have killed the entire personnel in two days! Just don't stop the military from doing their job and don't whine if you don't have a clue about the military! This is not a street fight.
      3. -4
        16 February 2023 00: 11
        450 kg is a small thing not worthy of mention (when it comes to bridges designed for a nuclear strike).

        Hamers finished off with hundreds of missiles (and they couldn’t damage the supports)
    8. +6
      15 February 2023 20: 49
      When will we start burning gas carriers?
    9. +4
      15 February 2023 21: 14
      What naive types of explanations about failures on bridges and other logistics! Well, complete nonsense!
      1. -7
        15 February 2023 21: 59
        tell us your not naive reasoning, just don’t sing songs that the generals again pissed off all the polymers
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      2. -3
        15 February 2023 23: 09
        And other explanations are not needed for people like you, Tom. Even if they explain to you in the General Staff why the bridges are not destroyed yet, you won’t understand even then, right? You and others like you will still have your own opinion - and nothing else, and for you such couch strategists it will be the only true one. You know how to fight, but stupid generals don’t know, so you need to be replaced by others like you, right?
    10. +7
      15 February 2023 21: 21
      That is, we did not restore the Antonovsky Bridge because it could have been damaged again, but at the same time we do not strive to destroy the same joint tunnel because it will be restored?
      Where is the author's logic?
      As for Shvytkin, an instructor in the tactics of the Krasnoyarsk SOBR told me that Shvytkin was expelled by the Soviets themselves for cowardice. Yes, yes, for cowardice. I heard this back in 2012, when Shvytkin had already become a politician.
      It was on one of the business trips to Chechnya, where the guys regularly went on military raids in small groups, and Shvytkin remained somewhere in the rear. When presented to him, he replied, they say, I am a commander and should lead, and not go on raids. Well, okay - the guys decided - if you're afraid, don't go, but we don't need a cowardly commander either. Collectively put the question before the authorities. Shvytkin had to leave.
      As they say, information from an absolutely reliable source that was present at this incident.
      If someone is interested in learning more about the source (within reasonable limits for his kind of service), type in the search engine: "Krasnoyarsk SOBR, Zheleznogorsk." The search engine will give out a rather old video of the storming of an apartment in Zheleznogorsk, Krasnoyarsk Territory. The "source" appears to the criminal as Sasha Zhukov, the criminal seriously wounded him, Sanya crawls, shooting back.
      The sobrovtsy liquidated the criminal of that. They say they fucked him so much that there were even splashes of blood on the ceiling of the apartment. But this information is unverified. )))

      Z.Y. Sanya, for the most part, survived, they inserted an artificial piece of a vein, which was damaged by a shot, he continued his service.
      I haven't seen him for almost ten years.
      We last met after his short business trip as a polite person to the Republic of Crimea during the referendum.
      And then I myself moved from Krasnoyarsk to sunny Taurida, almost immediately after the referendum - in May 2014.
      Probably, Sanya is already retired. Hope he's doing well.
      1. -5
        15 February 2023 22: 06
        and who said that we did not restore the bridge? restored five times, the Ukrainians demolished the same number of times, two brigades of bridgemen died at the same time, stupidly covered with Khaimars at the time of work - five 200s

        as for the political instructor - I believe that it was so, only three Orders of Courage are embarrassing (there are only 36 such people in the entire federation)
      2. -3
        15 February 2023 23: 19
        Dude, you're contradicting yourself. On the one hand, you do not know Shvydkin and trust him; on the other hand, you, like him, advocate the destruction of bridges. You already decide, otherwise Shvydkov in your presentation is nothing more than a simple couch strategist who does not understand belmes, not in tactics, much less in strategy.
    11. +4
      15 February 2023 22: 04
      the red lines cross only because they are allowed to cross and there is nothing to spread the thought over the tree, but as for bridges, calibers, iskanders and other daggers were created to destroy bunkers, command posts and other capital structures, there was no command by the military, therefore the bridges were not destroyed and everything else is nonsense
      1. -4
        15 February 2023 22: 36
        I see a very competent military specialist, for whom the caliber, the iskander, and the dagger are all one, and these are completely different ammunition, and each of them has its own purpose, they don’t even intersect. Which Iskander do you mean - M or K?
        1. +5
          16 February 2023 12: 42
          Vladimir, thanks for the irony, but judging by your texts, you consider yourself to be a competent specialist, excuse my frankness, but all your forecasts and thoughts turned out to be just zilch in the end, the cycle of your "programs" in the winter of 2022 about ultimatums was especially amused, but what about daggers and various Iskanders, so read their performance characteristics, their possible equipment and purposes of combat use are very well described there. I don’t want to dive with you, write further, it’s quite interesting to read, good luck in your work
      2. -1
        16 February 2023 00: 13
        Of course, that's what they were made for. IN THE NUCLEAR VERSION. Conventional warheads are too weak for such tasks.
    12. +7
      15 February 2023 22: 20
      Based on what he read, the author furiously justifies the inaction of the army. And then we can’t and we can’t do it, but here it’s generally pointless to do anything. It comes to mind - The one who does not want to do anything is looking for an excuse, the one who wants to is looking for opportunities. The article (and the work of Mr. Z in general) seems to me to be a soft preparation of society for the second Khasav-Yurt or the third Minsk.
      1. -3
        15 February 2023 22: 31
        I see another connoisseur of Mr. Z's work, have you read this (see below)?

        https://topcor.ru/30155-missija-putina-cherez-2-goda-rossiju-zhdut-30-samyh-blagopoluchnyh-let-a-ssha-povtorjat-sudbu-sssr.html
      2. -3
        16 February 2023 00: 14
        Have you already signed up as a volunteer and write from the Donetsk trench? ;-)
    13. +4
      15 February 2023 23: 10
      Well, who's stopping you from knocking down the energy of the independent? Do not hit the substations and transformer booths, but destroy the generation shops and boiler and turbine capacities. And now we seem to be chasing trucks with shells and cartridges without touching the warehouse ..
    14. +5
      16 February 2023 00: 36
      God again, this storyteller Mr. Z. For whom not a single forecast has yet come true.
      1. -8
        16 February 2023 00: 47
        What are predictions in the text? Tell us about yours, let's laugh together!
    15. +1
      16 February 2023 01: 01
      Quote: Sulla the Glorious
      Yes, the goal is not to seize territories, especially by a certain date.

      Firstly, there is a loss ratio of 1 to 5-7, and this suits the Russian Federation. In other words: the demilitarization of Ukraine is underway in a ratio that is favorable for us.

      Secondly, demilitarization is going on in four regions, without destroying the remaining 20 regions of Ukraine, which WE HAVE to restore later. Four areas are easier to recover than 24.

      Thirdly, there is a weakening of the West - curtailment of production, unemployment, inflation. In addition, and most importantly, political discord in Europe is beginning.

      Fourthly, the Russian military-industrial complex is being tested, against NATO standards - the elimination of weaknesses and the polishing of strengths.

      The main initial reason for the delay in the SVO is the lack of infantry in contract soldiers. The Russian Federation had a bet on high-tech contract soldiers, but the infantry was perceived as archaic. Ukraine has shown that it is too early to write off the infantry.

      However, during the course of the JEE, four positive points emerged, which I have indicated above. And because - now no one is in a hurry anywhere.

      I probably would not generalize and drag in the Russian Federation. When you say "A", say "B" as well. Who do you have under the Russian Federation?

    16. +3
      16 February 2023 01: 25
      Why the West ignores all the Kremlin's "red lines"

      Because it was not the Werewolves who were "poseur" (in uniform) who violated the oath in 91-93.

      Why are wolves afraid of red flags?
    17. +5
      16 February 2023 06: 14
      Auto RU. Any bridge can be destroyed if there is a desire for this. If it is not there, then people like this "author" are brought in to justify inaction. Even if the bridge is damaged, it will take a month or more to restore it. And this will save time. Even stopping the bridge for a week will save the lives of Russian soldiers.
      1. -5
        16 February 2023 17: 32
        it is difficult to argue with a person who does not own the subject of discussion, this is not treated
    18. +11
      16 February 2023 06: 33
      Because there are no red lines for the West. Now there is only the right of the strong, which the West and specifically the United States demonstrates. So they considered it necessary for themselves and blew up the Nord Streams. And what are we. Never mind. Here is the UN Security Council. We will speak out there and that's it. Now there is no reason or reason to be afraid of us. And respect for nothing. Why respect those who, for the sake of "beads", let go of the country that our ancestors had been collecting for centuries, and our so-called "elites" consider other countries to be their home. That is why they will not react to any of our red lines, no matter how much we draw them, and we ourselves redraw them every time, correcting them. And the red line is when, after crossing it, they should give in the face.
    19. +3
      16 February 2023 08: 28
      You explain to me here. What, a year ago such a development of events was not obvious?
    20. +10
      16 February 2023 09: 13
      Yeah, several thousand missiles have already been fired. And they shot at everything in a row, even at some "sheds" with a dozen dill .... But 10-20 rockets, there weren't any for each bridge!)) Fairy tales for the poor.
      And in general, many notice some kind of "humanistic strategy", our strategic strikes!
      LeMay, how did he carry out his carpet bombing of Japan? In the strategy of concentrating forces on one point (city), with each massive air raid, and if necessary, strikes were repeated until the target was completely destroyed!
      And how are we doing? "Smearing blows, in a thin layer", all over the territory, without a total destructive effect!
      And imagine a situation that 20-30 Calibers and X-s will fly over the same bridge in Zatoka, in an hour or two ?!
      And so for every serious goal! (Bridge, thermal power plant, plant, tunnel).
      Only the strategy of concentration brings total defeat of the target!
    21. +7
      16 February 2023 09: 24
      Because they saw the reaction of Russia: to run around with complaints to authorities that do not solve anything and express regrets. We stood in the pose of a patient, and who pays attention to their reaction.
    22. -3
      16 February 2023 10: 10
      Zion (New Jerusalem) will be built in the Americas, the Earth will be renewed and receive its paradise glory (S. W. 1:10)



      Britain - Land of the Covenant



      Why the West ignores all the Kremlin's "red lines"
    23. +15
      16 February 2023 11: 02
      Who are you "Mr. Z" that you talk so dismissively about "couch"? "Sofa" who is this? These are not military experts, and if the population does not understand something or has a different opinion, then this is the fault of the military experts and the agitation industry who cannot intelligibly explain the objectives of the task, the tactics and strategy of the NWO, the inability of the second most powerful army in the world to be 70% provided with the most modern weapons to stop the flow of weapons and shelling of their territory, supplying the enemy with energy resources and persistent attempts to enter into negotiations, which essentially indicate a readiness to compromise with the enemy, who perceives this as nothing more than a sign of weakness, and then why be surprised at ignoring our warnings and red lines?
      1. -7
        16 February 2023 11: 29
        Quote: Jacques Sekavar
        the inability of the second most powerful army in the world

        Second. only the budget is the 5th, and is sharpened for causing unacceptable damage in a return salvo against a coalition of armies, with budgets No. 1, 4, 6, 7, 9 ...
        Only №№ 7+9 - already 1.5 times more than our №5.
        You have to contrive, as with Trishkin's caftan.
        Somewhere they arrived (Boreas - Yars - satellites), somewhere they left (conventional weapons).

        Quote: Jacques Sekavar
        and red lines?

        Where did those red lines come from? who voiced them?

        The real orange line, beyond which the use of tactical nuclear weapons comes, is the capture by the adversary of the regional center of the old regions, combined with the complete collapse of conventional aircraft.
        Strike at the advancing groups and their rears.

        The red line is a massive missile strike by Western weapons against the Russian Federation (the location of the strategic nuclear forces).
        The missile attack warning system simply works and a return salvo is automatically activated.

        In the meantime, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not use anything that the Russian Federation would not have used before.
        So the cries about the red lines are the very canonical "what are we for?".
    24. +3
      16 February 2023 11: 11
      Tell the author that with 300 it is actually calmly used against ground targets. And why exactly the s300 is also clear.
      1. -2
        16 February 2023 17: 35
        and why?
    25. +8
      16 February 2023 11: 15
      The Russian leadership looks back at the oligarchy, and, alas, at the West. Fifth column. Plus general indecision. That's all.
    26. +7
      16 February 2023 12: 16
      Objectively, things are not going the way we want them to.
      1. +1
        16 February 2023 15: 01
        V.V. Putin tells us that the NVO is going according to plan. And the President does not deceive his own!
    27. +4
      16 February 2023 12: 17
      finally, another article by my favorite author ... to be honest, I like to read comments more (respect everyone's opinion).
      now to the point:

      Why the West ignores all the Kremlin's "red lines"

      Yes, because everything is arranged like this: “we go on the principle”, “we take it weakly”

      remember? (and I Remember Everything. The author called me an encyclopedist) remember, after 15.12.21/XNUMX/XNUMX (,, Putin's ultimatum "), what Biden said:

      Putin wanted less NATO, but will get more NATO

      I personally thought (and only then V. Solovyov at his evening: London should have been washed away into the English Channel) that on 16.01.22/XNUMX/XNUMX they would hit the Gadyushnik as "military" and "military-technical measures".

      there was no need to draw ,,Paseidons" & ,,Zircons" in cartoons for the whole World ...
      one bang and now everything would be different.

      it's called a preemptive strike.
      1. +3
        16 February 2023 18: 05
        Ah love our beautiful words say. pompous, pretentious, formidable, crushing. but those are words. What does the whole world actually see?
    28. +3
      16 February 2023 12: 34
      They will also cover the Victory Parade on May 9 with their Swifts. Be sure to cover, mark my words!

      I thought about that too...
      and how will the Immortal Regiment pass?

      I think it should be cancelled.
    29. +5
      16 February 2023 15: 52
      Quote: Vladimir80
      the world is really listening with bated breath to what our Garan will say to the imperishable

      I'm sorry but this is completely outdated.

      good lol
    30. -4
      16 February 2023 16: 42
      The West ignores all the Kremlin's "red lines"

      Quotes from Kremlin officials in the studio, please. Reporters themselves invent these lines, so that they themselves can jump through them and jump from article to article.
      1. +4
        16 February 2023 23: 01
        Quote: gene65
        Reporters themselves invent these lines, so that they themselves can jump through them and jump from article to article.

        Of course themselves. For our guarantor, as usual, let the fog even with red lines.

        "Well, as for these "red lines", let me leave this to myself, because on our part it will mean quite tough actions precisely at those decision-making centers that I have already spoken about and which you mentioned. But after all, this is an area that should be left to the decision, first of all, of the military-political leadership.And those people who deserve appropriate actions of this level on our part, must, of course, for themselves, first of all, draw the conclusion that what they can face when crossing these lines and lines," Putin said at the SPIEF plenary session.

        https://ria.ru/20220617/ukraina-1796338609.html
    31. +3
      16 February 2023 16: 49
      Nothing to draw red lines. There is a danger - take action.
    32. +1
      16 February 2023 17: 12
      And our problems are connected not only with the poor organization of database maintenance and sabotage at the highest level

      There are people like fruits
      Large but not mature.
      They won't be long enough
      if there are clumsy hands nearby.
      Those hook hands couldn't
      maybe they didn't want
      That fruit to cherish and grow,
      they couldn't work.
      And he grew up big, funny,
      neither sun nor rain
      not received in time.
      He stretched out like a vine
      he grew up in a bad tribe.
    33. -4
      16 February 2023 17: 51
      About how they fought. For the red lines from the sofa. Who drew them? Surovikin - no, Gerasimov - no, Putin - no. That is why the West is “transitioning” because no one has drawn these lines for it. Hoh Ly are fighting within, the West sends parcels within, even an explosion of flows is just sabotage. That is also within. Well, yes, the rules-based American world. What do you, dear colleagues, really want to fight with the entire "civilized world" right behind these mythical red lines? Let the army do its thing in Ukraine, first. Minimum funds. All the economy that is still alive in Ukraine will come in handy later.
    34. +1
      16 February 2023 18: 02
      blah blah blah blah... as always
    35. +3
      17 February 2023 08: 36
      As V.S. sang Vysotsky -

      Seryozhka Fomin would be here now,
      so that he stays at the front in German.


      So Mr. Z must be sent to Artyomovsk. Then I would have realized that the lives of Russian soldiers are more precious than all Caliber for shelling bridges across the Dnieper.
      1. 0
        18 February 2023 13: 09
        As I understand it, earlier he served in the DRA ... somewhere in the 79th (the most "relish")

        so do not rush to bury him, we need him here Alive!
        1. 0
          18 February 2023 13: 27
          finally. the war ended.
          lifted off my shoulders like tons of weight...
          once I meet Seryozhka Fomin,
          and he is a Hero of the Soviet Union.
    36. +4
      17 February 2023 13: 01
      Quote from Oleg-o-lego
      Auto RU. Any bridge can be destroyed if there is a desire for this. If it is not there, then people like this "author" are brought in to justify inaction. Even if the bridge is damaged, it will take a month or more to restore it. And this will save time. Even stopping the bridge for a week will save the lives of Russian soldiers.

      And when, at the top, they finally decide to destroy the bridges and the tunnel, and destroy them in the end, such as the Author, they will tell us why this became possible and correct. For example, they will drag in the political situation, or something else. Such "authors" remind me of a weather vane ...