Kedmi predicted the emergence of two states on the territory of Ukraine

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Moscow launched a special operation against Kyiv because of its desire to join the "peace-loving" NATO bloc, whose advance to the east is dangerous and unacceptable for Russia. Political scientist Yakov Kedmi recalled this on the air of the first Israeli independent and uncensored Internet TV channel in Russian ITON-TV, giving a forecast about the future of Ukraine.


Kedmi noted that the Russian Federation decided in advance to neutralize the threats that could arise in the future, without waiting for Kyiv's attack on Donetsk and Luhansk and the appearance of military bases of the North Atlantic Alliance on Ukrainian territory. Moscow gave a chance to resolve everything at the negotiating table, but the West and Ukraine did not want to take into account the concerns of the Russian Federation.

According to Kedmi, Ukraine, in its current form, will cease to exist after the completion of the Russian NWO. He suggested that Russia had already prepared new geopolitical projects, and two new independent states would appear in place of Ukraine.

The western regions of Ukraine will become one of the mentioned states. It will be a pro-European country, but with a neutral military status. The eastern and southern regions of Ukraine will become Novorossia. It will be a pro-Russian buffer country under the protection of the Russian Federation. Thus, Russia will be able to solve two main problems: the threats posed by modern Ukraine will be removed, and it will also be possible to secure the Russian-speaking population and respect their rights by neutralizing the risks posed by Ukrainian nationalist groups.

Two main problems from Russia's point of view will be solved. This is a problem of security from the territory of Ukraine <...> and the problem of denazification, that is, this Galician pro-Nazi ideology will be removed from the agenda

predicted Kedmi.
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  1. Yuriy_7 Offline Yuriy_7
    Yuriy_7 (Yuri) 12 February 2023 19: 14
    +2
    Such an alignment is quite possible, but there are two scenarios for the development of events - Kyiv capitulates and accepts the conditions of the Russian Federation, or it will have to go to the end, and divide the population into its own and Ukrainians, and accordingly determine their place of residence. Since there is no smell of surrender, there is only one conclusion - fratricide will continue.
    1. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
      Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 12 February 2023 19: 33
      0
      first you will divide it there, then in Russia you will begin to divide it into those who lick something to someone and those who are against ... will we also write down the second as enemies?

      If Russia annexes lands, then they are needed with people. otherwise, who will live and work there ... Tajiks and Uzbeks?

      it is necessary to show the locals the benefits of coexistence with the Russian people. but for this you will have to treat Russia itself ... because endlessly puffing out your cheeks and showing your pseudo-greatness at exhibitions and parades is the path to collapse
    2. isv000 Offline isv000
      isv000 14 February 2023 16: 04
      +1
      Quote: Yuri_7
      Such an alignment is quite possible, but there are two scenarios for the development of events - Kyiv capitulates and accepts the conditions of the Russian Federation, or it will have to go to the end, and divide the population into its own and Ukrainians, and accordingly determine their place of residence. Since there is no smell of surrender, there is only one conclusion - fratricide will continue.

      The pro-Western "neutral Ukraine" will certainly be pumped by the West, a new powerful army will be created there according to NATO standards to confront Russia - exactly this was voiced by Stoltenberg and Austin ... Whatever one may say - we will not finish it now - our children and grandchildren will have to start all over again and remember us as we remember our grandfathers that they did not finish off Nazism on the outskirts at one time ...
  2. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
    Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 12 February 2023 19: 30
    +4
    why create an artificial New Russia? The USSR was divided into 15 republics, 30 years of independence have shown that these republics are economically untenable ... and instead of uniting into one subject, will we continue to divide further? utter stupidity...

    Western Ukraine is a debatable issue. maybe it’s really better not to touch them as part of Russia. and on the left bank of the Dnieper (at least) there should not be any "new states" ... and it is foolish to refuse Kiev, as the mother of Russian cities
  3. Pro100 Offline Pro100
    Pro100 (Vladimir Babaev) 12 February 2023 19: 43
    0
    Or maybe even three, or even four... Depending on how the debts will be written off.
  4. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 12 February 2023 19: 46
    +1
    Ukraine, in its current form, ceased to exist after the referendum in the Crimea and the recognition of the independence of the DPR-LPR, followed by their entry into the Russian Federation.
    The division of Ukraine with the formation of Novorossiya-Little Russia became impossible after Zaporozhye and Kherson provinces were admitted to the Russian Federation.
    The deprivation of statehood and the division of Ukraine is possible only in agreement with NATO - Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, the prerequisites for which are not visible, but it may become possible if the Russian army enters the line of the Dnieper and Moldova, which practically no one believes even the owner of PMC Wagner when he says that it will take from 1,5 to 2 years to reach the DPR border.
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    1. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
      Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 12 February 2023 20: 00
      +3
      I hope the Russian people are smart enough to understand that an endless division will only lead to the degradation of those who secede ... even those clowns who said that St. Petersburg would secede and live happily ever after should understand that all their Gazprom prosperity is based on gas production in the regions of Russia. and without gas they are zeros with beautiful buildings
  6. VICTOR VALENTINOVICH Offline VICTOR VALENTINOVICH
    VICTOR VALENTINOVICH (VIKTOR VALENTINOVICH) 12 February 2023 20: 47
    +2
    I remember how Kedmi at the beginning of his predicted a quick victory for Russia over Ukraine within two weeks ... This is not an expert, but a weather vane and a bot!
    1. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 13 February 2023 19: 55
      0
      Why, then, before the war, the USSR accepted into the USSR additional parts of Ukraine and Belarus, as well as Moldova. Do you understand what a fence is? Enlargement of the country - an increase in the size that the invaders would have to go through. If there were no western regions, then the Germans could be near Moscow in a month and a half. Would the country have had time to arm and defend itself?
  7. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 12 February 2023 21: 51
    +9
    There is only one decision on Ukraine in favor of the people of Russia. The state of Ukraine must cease to exist. The entire territory of Ukraine should return to Russia, in the form of regions and republics. There is no need to ask permission from anyone, everything must be done unilaterally. There is no state of Ukraine, there are no debts, there is no government of Ukraine in exile, there are no legal Banderists, there are no Ukrainian participants in various international organizations, there is no hostile state on the border of the Russian Federation. Russia will strengthen its economic and military-political influence in the world, there will be direct access to the EU countries. NATO will no longer be able to use Ukraine against Russia. The northwestern part of the Black Sea will belong to Russia.
    Even if part of Ukraine is left, then today and in the future, Russia will always have an enemy in the person of Ukraine. Ukraine will definitely join NATO and will definitely attack Russia. Everything that is promised and will be spelled out in the Constitution of Ukraine, in its documents, Ukraine will change, in the way that is beneficial to the United States and its satellites.
    Any half-hearted decision is the defeat and capitulation of the Russian Federation to NATO.
  8. isofat Offline isofat
    isofat (isofat) 12 February 2023 23: 33
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    In fact, Kedmi voiced the option of ending the war. He calls one of the states pro-Russian, drawing attention to the benefits for Russia. But he does not say anything about the second state and promises its neutrality.

    This cunning Jew, who slandered the Soviet Union in the days of his youth, on whose behalf is he telling us? laughing
  9. Foe Pshekov Offline Foe Pshekov
    Foe Pshekov (Arkady) 13 February 2023 00: 12
    +2
    This is such an option, trying to settle things with the West for good again. The main issue is the borders of the Russian Federation. It is clear that the matter will be decided by referendums, but from a military point of view ... at least along the Dnieper, and Odessa with direct access to Transnistria and Romania. Ukraine (pro-Western, but militarily neutral) is the Lviv, Volyn, Chernivtsi, Uzhgorod and Ivano-Frankivsk regions. The rest of the territory is pro-Russian Little Russia or New Russia, no matter what you call it, but under the physical control of the Russian Federation, as a variant of the "independence" of the ukrocentrists. Although for me this is a very risky option, there will be constant unrest and provocations that the NATO countries will foment endlessly.
    In my opinion, it is necessary to destroy in full, to the Polish borders, and threaten with strikes on Warsaw if the Poles do not cede territory. What they received as a result of WWII in the west, let them give it back to the Germans. Plus, 100 km of territory is transferred inland to the Kaliningrad region, Belarus and the new Ukraine. The Balts must lose direct access to the EU. As punishment, in addition, they leave NATO, if they refuse, all three countries will also move to the Kaliningrad region. And of course, NATO is withdrawing all its troops from Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Norway. Sweden and Finland cannot join NATO without the consent of the Russian Federation.
    Well, or destroy Berlin, London and Paris. This is the minimum program for now, otherwise it would not make sense to start reshaping the world in Europe.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 13 February 2023 10: 40
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      Arkady, apparently you did not quite understand with whom the war. Today there is not quite a usual operation, the intervention of a team of high-precision neurosurgeons is required. laughing
  10. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 13 February 2023 01: 05
    -2
    Famous noodles from Kedmi.
    There were already "two new independent states."
    Russia did not recognize them for 8 years, despite the fact that our EDRO ruled there ‚ and then simply attached it.

    There were "two new independent states", and they do not exist ... As well as the "Russian Spring and the Russian World"
  11. Svinokol Offline Svinokol
    Svinokol (Svinokol) 13 February 2023 01: 28
    +3
    Nothing should remain of Ukraine. I would generally make a nuclear test site on its western borders and conduct tests every week, so that in Europe they would not have time to insert glass ..
    1. Flight Offline Flight
      Flight (voi) 13 February 2023 03: 41
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      Quote: Svinokol
      Nothing should remain of Ukraine. I would generally make a nuclear test site on its western borders and conduct tests every week, so that in Europe they would not have time to insert glass ..

      Yes, you are just some kind of animal! Go better roll valerian, or a stack of the capital. Nothing, nothing, the time will come to build schools, learn them as it should and wake up all tip-top.
  12. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 13 February 2023 02: 48
    +4
    Russia must "play" for the future. Ukraine can be divided, but all the historical lands that belonged to the state of Rus should go to Russia. This is the minimum program. The program was announced yesterday by Prigogine, the end point is Paris!
  13. Flight Offline Flight
    Flight (voi) 13 February 2023 02: 55
    +1
    How does he know everything?
    Of course, it is not beneficial for the Israelis to change the current leadership, both in the Russian Federation and in Ukraine. And they will be very hard at pushing for the opportunity to have influence over this leadership. After all, they will still remain good advisers for both sides.
  14. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 13 February 2023 08: 38
    +1
    and why is the state of Novorossia? there will be no new outskirts, all the lands will go to their historical borders until a new European war, and it is not far off
  15. Oleg Apushkin Offline Oleg Apushkin
    Oleg Apushkin (Oleg Apushkin) 13 February 2023 21: 11
    0
    Yasha made a revolution, threw a bomb into a well with clean water.
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov Offline Vladimir Tuzakov
      Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 13 February 2023 23: 40
      -1
      (Oleg A.) Provocative statements indicate that you are a provocateur. A truthful word is always truthful, no matter who speaks out., And provocateurs are always and everywhere despised. .I. Kedmi expresses the realities that are obvious and very understandable, and there is nothing to blame him for. Ukraine cannot be mastered all over, there will be options with a partition, especially since NATO will not allow it to be completely won.