Until the last Ukrainian: new calculations about the losses and mobilization potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

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The other day in social networks there was a message from the category of absolutely black humor. Some Ukrainian eco-activists allegedly opposed... the use of artificial flowers in funeral ceremonies, since the number of fresh graves is so great that these very plastic carnations will spoil the ecological situation for a long time.

But jokes are jokes, and the beginning of February turned out to be rich in information about the victims that the Ukrainian fascists laid on the altar of "democracy". The information, however, is conditionally reliable, contradictory and requires additional analysis with a cold head.



The topic of human losses is, in principle, burning, for obvious reasons, and for equally understandable reasons closed. Russian society reacts very sharply to the ongoing "flights" with large one-time casualties, such as an attack on a hostel in Makeevka on the night of January 1, or the recent beating of an armored column of our troops near Vugledar. Fortunately, such episodes are rare, and it is impossible to hush them up - however, organizational conclusions are drawn from them, as we see, not always and not by all.

As for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, their combat chronicle for the most part consists of such "successes" from which no conclusions are drawn at all - but why? The lack of forces that the Russian troops experienced before the partial mobilization allowed the Ukrainian military to re-occupy a number of previously liberated territories. In turn, the most severe censorship, mixed with the persecution of "collaborators" for uncomfortable questions, for the time being successfully concealed the price of these victories: the "heroes" did not die for months (they only went to hell to regroup).

However, after the legendary November revelation of the European Commissioner von der Leyen, who for the first time in the West voiced the number of only 100 killed fascists, the faith of the Ukrainian collective unconscious still cracked. Neither censorship nor reports about “more than 100 thousand killed orcs” managed to hush up the embarrassment, and then Bakhmut, as a place and symbol of the continuous grinding of Ukrainian troops, arrived in time.

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In fact, three assessments of the results of this process have recently appeared. On February 5, the Turkish press, referring to the Israeli intelligence Mossad, announced the irretrievable losses of the Kyiv regime in 157 killed and 17 captured. Interestingly, according to the publication, 8 "NATO and mercenaries" were also destroyed in the battles. In addition to the human losses of the Ukrainian troops, Turkish newspapermen also gave a long list of material losses: armored vehicles, artillery, aviation.

On the same day, February 5, retired US Army Colonel and “Russian agent” McGregor again reminded himself of himself, who also issued an “insider”: they say, during his visit to the USA on December 21-22, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zaluzhny informed the US Department of Defense about irrevocable losses of 257 thousand "zahistnikov", including those killed, captured, missing and crippled.

But the most interesting figures were given by the Ukrainian Minister of Defense Reznikov: according to him, during the entire period of mobilization in Ukraine, 950 thousand people were called up (of which 700 thousand were in the Armed Forces of Ukraine), and at the moment the total number of “people in uniform” is “more than a million ". From the values ​​​​voiced by Reznikov, it was hastily concluded that the total losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in killed and wounded were about 300 thousand people.

For obvious reasons, Turkish sources are the least reliable. The whole story with the Mossad looks doubtful, which first scrupulously counts all the killed fascists with an accuracy of tens and ones (in what way, I wonder?), And then leaks this information to some newspaper, not even an Israeli one. There is an opinion that someone in the editorial office was simply not too lazy to do the calculations on their own, but the remark “according to secret Israeli documents” was added already to heighten the hype.

Here McGregor and Reznikov seem to be almost equally trustworthy: the current Minister of Defense is, of course, an official; and in favor of the colonel are his past merits and the very real opportunity to maintain contact with comrades in the service. And here's the amazing thing: the numbers they named fight very well with each other.

In fact, the total number of all armed formations of Ukraine at the beginning of the NMD can be estimated at about 430 thousand people: 200 thousand of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 100 thousand in the National Guard and the border service, 130 thousand in the police. That is, the theoretical total number, together with those mobilized to date, could be 1,4 million people - but Reznikov said "more than a million."

What may be hidden behind this wording - you can’t say for sure, but you can be sure that this number is overestimated for the purpose of uplifting disinformation. Thus, the real number of all fascists under arms fluctuates around 1 million, and the total losses are in the order of 400 thousand. Taking into account the poor (for the Armed Forces) ratio of killed and wounded, caused by the low level of medical support, irretrievable losses of 250-300 thousand, including cripples more unfit for service, look quite realistic. They also correlate with our estimate two months ago about 160-180 thousand killed.

"Elves" will never end?


The 950 thousand mobilized people voiced by Reznikov are interesting in themselves. The fact is that Western open sources estimated the trained (that is, who served no more than five years ago) mobilization reserve of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at 900 "invaders". This means that the theoretical maximum of truly combat-ready people has already been exhausted, and taking into account the loss of part of the territories and the mass migration of the population, it has even been exceeded.

Actually, we are seeing the results of this live: with “no losses” and the “normal course of mobilization” declared by the head of the National Security and Defense Council Danilov, the Ukrainian military commissars grab literally everyone who comes to hand. Although the well-known attempts to call on the armless and blind are obvious curiosities, “on average in the hospital” no one is really looking at the health of recruits, deferrals for students are also canceled. And against this background, some Kyiv and pro-Kiev media are still trying to make someone laugh with headlines like "forced mobilization in Ukraine - Putin's special operation"!

The tentacles of the “gravemen” also threaten those who managed to slip away abroad. There are reports that in Poland, summons were issued to male refugees who registered for official employment. In the UK, citizens who hosted Ukrainians began to receive requests to clarify the personal data of migrants - not only and not so much for social security, but to assess the mobilization potential.

The character of several short videos: mortar boy who can be mistaken for a minor. True, there is no certainty on this score, it is quite possible that the youngster has already reached military age, and that he is the only one - one way or another, the degree of panic among Ukrainian mothers has grown a lot.

Against the background of “non-going” mobilization, the number of Ukrainians “not deviating” from it is growing, while the most diverse methods are practiced. No one is surprised anymore either by men in women's clothes who hope to escape the attention of the "chapel patrols" like that, or by runners breaking through the border illegally, or by attempts to dodge "foolishly". So, on February 7, another psychiatrist was arrested in Odessa, who issued fake certificates for 7 thousand hryvnias a piece, and in the military registration and enlistment offices they demand 12-15 thousand for a "slope".

However, deviationism reigns not only in the rear: on February 7, there were reports that near Bakhmut, units of the 30th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine abandoned their positions in front of our troops, allegedly due to lack of ammunition. Fatigue, heavy losses, poor supplies and desertion of Ukrainian troops on the front lines were also talked about in the Western mainstream media.

Interestingly, the Russian forces of information and psychological operations, both official and voluntary, seem to have begun to play on this topic. very surreal."news from the other side" began to appear in domestic telegram channels in recent days, although they seem to be plausible.

For example, one of the messages refers to some “surgeon” who allegedly offers dodgers for a small amount ... to break an arm or leg under anesthesia, which will give a six-month delay, and even cites a photo (!) of a printed advertisement. There are also summaries allegedly compiled from the words of the prisoners of episodes of damage by the Nazis to their weapons and military equipment, or the execution of commanders and the transition to our side - "summaries", more like instructions for action.

They also write (again with photo evidence, of course) that near Bakhmut, the fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have a “fashion” for posthumous “insert” letters in which they ask the Wagnerites (!) to transfer their bodies to relatives there and there. After such a word by Prigozhin himself from a lengthy interview with military commissar Pegov, published on February 10, that the hostilities in Ukraine could last another three years, they begin to be perceived differently - especially if you have a chance to get into the orderly ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

How effective this new propaganda tactic will be, only time will tell. There is an opinion, more and more firm, that it was not without reason that the CIA and Western journalists started talking about the “decisive” significance of the coming months of the campaign: if during this period the Kyiv regime cannot again interrupt the grandiose losses with some other “victory”, then the spirit of the “hulks” in the rear (or even worse - the fighters at the front) will be finally broken.
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  1. -3
    12 February 2023 20: 06
    All this is nothing more than another speculation about the loss of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (by the way, the “other” side is doing this with no less success). Moreover, nothing is said about their real relationship with ours ...
    1. +5
      12 February 2023 20: 42
      Yours, who is this?
    2. +2
      13 February 2023 11: 15
      And no one will tell you in the next couple of years. Too dangerous a subject. Of course, you can guess, for example, from the graves in the nearest cemetery. But the accuracy of such calculations will be so-so. At best, the order of the numbers will give. But in any case, you should not believe all these fables about 10 to 1 and 20 to 1. They also wrote about the Second World War that they filled up with corpses. But it turned out that the ratio of military losses is 1 to 1,2-1,3 in favor of the Wehrmacht. Somehow it does not pull on the battles in the style of colonial wars. And all these huge numbers, 1 to 5 and so on. , gave the dead civilians.
      1. 0
        13 February 2023 11: 53
        The ratio of military casualties of 1 x 6 was more plausible before the new year. But the current battles near Bakhmut, Ugledarsk and subsequent battles in other areas of the LDNR, these loss ratios can be leveled to 1 x 3. Now the losses of the RF Armed Forces, together with the LDNR, can be about 30 thousand with the dead and maimed. But the fact that the losses of 10 years in the Afghan war were surpassed within 1 year in Ukraine showed all the mediocrity of the entire state apparatus of the Russian Federation,
      2. +1
        13 February 2023 17: 58
        If the Wehrmacht "defeated and ground everyone," then why was Hitler gathering his Yugend for the war? They took 15 year old boys. There is also a chronicle on this topic. And Stalin at this time had already begun the demobilization of soldiers over 50 years old. But this account has all the documents. The most accurate data on pilots. All the officers and records are very accurate there. Of the main warring countries, Soviet pilots lost the least. Not by the number of planes, but by people. You repeat the tales of our liberodrils!
        1. +2
          13 February 2023 18: 30
          Quote: indifferent
          All the officers and records are very accurate there.

          and the Germans had pilots - sergeants, and we have sergeants.
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      4. 0
        17 February 2023 11: 37
        Quote from single-n
        They also wrote about the Second World War that they filled up with corpses. But it turned out that the ratio of military losses is 1 to 1,2-1,3 in favor of the Wehrmacht

        and this is without taking into account the Romanians, the Spaniards and other non-German fascists, such as Bandera, so the losses are determined by the ratio of the capabilities of the equipment and our military leaders were better than the German ones in the Second World War, the style of our military leadership of the NWO, that is, the massive use of artillery and a thorough cleaning of the positions of the Nazis with artillery, I approve, and our Russian heroes (and the fraternal nations of Russia too) need to be protected, so a ratio of 1: 5 is quite possible, and maybe more
    3. +3
      13 February 2023 14: 08
      Quote from: Vox_Populi
      All this is nothing more than another speculation on the topic

      By the way, about appeals to the side of the enemy... Why not launch the message: "The West demands war to the last Ukrainian... Surrendering, save the gene pool of the future." This does not seem to be "taking care of one's own skin", which may turn out to be a more effective incentive to stop hostilities.
      1. GIS
        0
        16 February 2023 10: 15
        from all the articles and videos that I have seen, it is not clear why the soldiers do not direct their weapons against those who push them to slaughter. The soldiers understand and see this very well. But! they don’t do anything, but how many articles and reports they shoot for refusing to fight. how is that? driven like cattle without the right to vote? but with weapons. Or are they given ammunition only before the battle?
        or is it our mentality so common - to stand to the last?
  2. +3
    13 February 2023 07: 27
    death to ukrofascists!
    1. 0
      13 February 2023 17: 43
      Ukraine, give up, Hyundai hoh!
  3. +4
    13 February 2023 08: 46
    I don’t understand why some people rejoice and are proud of?
    Do we have a goal of destroying Ukrainians as much as possible? In fact, drugged Russians, with whom we will eventually live later. Ukraine cannot be loaded onto a barge, taken away and docked next to Australia. Relationships in the future will have to be established in any case.
    Instead of decisive blows that would have broken the will to resist among the forelocks, we got involved in the bloody meat grinder of the First World War, the battles go on for months for the village with 3 chicken coops, and the occupied floor of the street or the recaptured garage cooperative or summer cottage village among crests are passed off as success. Yes, for a 150 million nuclear country, with an army of under 1,5 million, this is definitely a success, the whole world is sitting and winding up how to fight. And then after occupying a village, we go to the ruins, a dump of broken bricks and boards, mixed with earth, suitable for life only for stray dogs.
    1. +1
      13 February 2023 09: 30
      Another speculation about 1.5 million armed forces and nuclear weapons ... Firstly, only 1 million. There were 350 thousand infantry in the ranks of the RF Armed Forces (including peacekeeping brigades in Tajikistan, Armenia, and others that cannot be touched), the rest of the units are not for field combat (you understand - a duty officer from a nuclear button or a submariner can also be under arms, but it’s better to let them do their job). And about turning a neighboring country into an exclusion zone - everyone and sundry has already spoken about the extreme nature of TNW strikes in Ukraine
    2. +5
      13 February 2023 10: 00
      Deserted ruins of cities and villages, mountains of garbage and broken bricks - an excellent buffer zone between Russia and NATO countries.
      Demilitarized and denazified.
      Not the worst result of the NWO for Russia.
      1. +3
        13 February 2023 21: 47
        agree. emptiness is better than enemies who are not enemies who fled from there to Russia .... but the fact that they were once Russian ... they were in the past tense, now they are fascists, which means death to every one of the fascists
    3. +2
      14 February 2023 09: 15
      Again, this is blah blah, about the "fraternal, drugged people"!
      1. 0
        17 February 2023 11: 47
        in the same vein, and about the German drugged people of 1941, drugged, then he is drugged, but he is an enemy, and an armed enemy, Chikatilo was also drugged by his sex fantasies, we often confuse Christianity with Tolstoy's sermon "non-resistance to evil by violence", all of Europe from their pluralism and humanism became unlivable.
    4. GIS
      +1
      16 February 2023 10: 16
      Instead of decisive blows that would break the will to resist among the forelocks,

      time is lost. now it’s the only way + cut off supplies from NATO countries
  4. +2
    14 February 2023 08: 02
    Kill everyone without a second thought. The time for reflection has passed.
  5. 0
    15 February 2023 15: 33
    Until the last Ukrainian? to the last hryvnia.
    Death accounting.
    In Ukraine, they changed the procedure for helping the families of the dead soldiers.
    In Ukraine, a one-time cash payment is paid to all relatives of the deceased military in proportion ... payments will be made in shares according to the new principle.
    The payment is divided into parts - the first 20% of the amount, and then monthly fixed amounts:
    • the first payment - 1/5 of the assigned amount of the unified income;
    • the second part - the balance of the unpaid amount of the UDV (4/5 of the assigned amount) is paid monthly, in installments over the next 40 months.
    Thus, at the first stage, UAH 3 million is paid, and then UAH 300 per month (in proportion to the number of family members of the deceased).
    Inflation for 2022 in Ukraine is officially announced at 1.32.
    The cost of $ 1 is now about 40 hryvnia.
  6. 0
    15 February 2023 17: 13
    Quote from single-n
    And no one will tell you in the next couple of years. Too dangerous a subject. Of course, you can guess, for example, from the graves in the nearest cemetery. But the accuracy of such calculations will be so-so. At best, the order of the numbers will give. But in any case, you should not believe all these fables about 10 to 1 and 20 to 1. They also wrote about the Second World War that they filled up with corpses. But it turned out that the ratio of military losses is 1 to 1,2-1,3 in favor of the Wehrmacht. Somehow it does not pull on the battles in the style of colonial wars. And all these huge numbers, 1 to 5 and so on. , gave the dead civilians.

    Well, rather, the ratio of military losses was 1 to 2, in favor of the Wehrmacht. what
  7. +1
    16 February 2023 08: 13
    Ukraine. Death accounting. /continuation/
    The Washington Post cites the words of the chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff that the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine today are about 100 thousand.
    But the Jew, Ze, would not be a Jew if he had not come up with a powerful excuse not to pay the dead.
    The Kyiv Post reported in December that, according to Mikhail Podolyak, an adviser to the head of the Presidential Office, the losses of the Ukrainian army in Ukraine are estimated "within 10-13 thousand people."
    This means that there will be no payment for the death of 90% of the “heroes”. Although hellish torments were invented for the “lucky ones” to receive dead ones ...
    … the following documents must be submitted:
    • an application for the payment of a lump-sum allowance;
    • a copy of the death certificate;
    • an extract from the order to exclude the deceased from the list of personnel of the military unit;
    • a document certifying the causes and circumstances of the death of a military man;
    • an extract from the personal file on the composition of the military man's family;
    • a copy of the medical death certificate;
    • copies of the pages of the passport of the recipient of the lump-sum allowance with data on the last name, first name and patronymic and place of registration;
    • a copy of the birth certificate of the deceased (to pay benefits to parents);
    • a copy of the marriage certificate (for payment to the wife);
    • a copy of the child's birth certificate (for payment to children);
    • a copy of a court decision or a notarized transaction confirming the fact that the applicant was in the care of the deceased (provided by persons who are not members of the family of the deceased (deceased), but were in his maintenance).