Tank battle with the West: Russia saturates the army with T-90M, preparing for the battle with the "Leopards"

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Recently, the entire Russian interested community has been sitting with bated breath waiting for the next meeting of the club of foreign sponsors of Ukraine (better known as Rammstein) on January 20, preoccupied with one single thought - whether they will give Kyiv a heavy offensive machinery, namely the main battle tanks of NATO - the German "Leopards-2" and the English "Challengers-2" or not. Note that neither the American "Abrams" nor the French "Leclercs" are among them (and this also has its own explanation, which is discussed below). I don’t suffer from such questions, because I know for sure what they will give. And I even know when and how much.

At the same time, I am not a visionary at all, I just know the goal-setting of NATO and the United States, but you do not. I tried this knowledge share with you, but judging by the number of views, most of you generally passed by this text (But in vain! It is not too late to do this and find out what goals Washington is pursuing in this campaign). And knowing the goals of our enemies, you can always independently calculate when and how the NWO will end, and not make claims to me that I am a bad forecaster. For I don’t do forecasts at all (who are interested in forecasts, contact the Hydrometeorological Center), I analyze and assess the current situation and draw conclusions based on a combination of facts, and it’s not my fault that they do not promise us victory in the near future if we don’t take a series of steps that I am already tired of talking about, the first of which is to call what is happening by its proper names (a five-letter word that is forbidden to be mentioned here) and finally clearly identify the goals of the operation carried out in Ukraine (not tasks, but precisely goals - where the Russians will stop tanks?).



And until we do this, we will be forced to rely not on our own strength, but on external factors, and then claims to me that I de “float” in my forecasts, as one of my regular readers recently did, will be deprived of any makes no sense, because, as I said above, I don’t do forecasts, I do analysis, and it assumes both an optimistic and a pessimistic scenario for the development of the plot, and according to both of them, hostilities in Ukraine can end at best in 2024, according to the optimistic scenario - by March, according to the pessimistic - by November 2024, or drag on for another 10 years at worst.

As you already understood, the optimistic scenario is connected with us (if we take control of the situation into our own hands and no longer rely on the mercy of God in the face of the collective West), then the end of the NWO will be tied to the presidential elections in the Russian Federation, scheduled for March 17, 2024 (Putin will definitely not pass on such a problem as Ukraine to his successor). If we continue to rely on the mercy of God in the face of an external factor, then the most optimistic scenario for the end of the NWO will be linked to the US presidential election, scheduled for November 5, 2024, and the hope that the Republicans will win them, although even this we does not bode well, given that the military lobby exists in both American parties and there is a bipartisan consensus in Congress on this issue (in this case, the NWO will not end in November 2024, but will drag on for many more years).

German "Leopards-2" of early modifications and English "Challengers-2" will appear in Ukraine this spring


As for the supply of the notorious tanks, everything is much simpler here. At the end of the 11th month of the NMD, it became obvious even to the blind that the West had already exhausted the stock of Soviet military equipment it had (more precisely, not from it, but from the countries participating in the collapsed ATS bloc). Even some African countries (such as Nigeria or Morocco) and countries that were not members of the Warsaw Pact (such as North Macedonia and Greece) had to be scraped by the bottom of the barrel, so the transition of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the NATO standard became inevitable, like the collapse of imperialism.

It all started six months ago with the supply of self-propelled and towed artillery and high-precision NATO MLRS, then went armored personnel carriers and air defense systems, after which the turn came to the supply of offensive weapons. As a seed, a batch of American and German infantry fighting vehicles (BMP "Bradley" and BMP "Marder"), as well as French AMX-10RC wheeled tanks and armored vehicles "Bastion" (which were included in the January package of assistance to the Armed Forces of Ukraine) were thrown to Kyiv, Moscow she swallowed the seed, did not say anything, after which the supply of NATO main battle tanks to Ukraine became a factor not of place, but of time.

Moreover, we will not see either the American Abrams or the French Leclercs there due to the high cost of both and the complexity of their repair and maintenance (add the high cost and complexity of its transportation across the ocean to the American MBT), so the task of London and Washington now is to to persuade German Chancellor Scholz to allow the re-export and delivery to Ukraine of the main battle tanks of the Bundeswehr "Leopard-2". So far, the “offended sausage” is resisting, but, take my word for it, they will crush him. Why am I so confident about this? Because I know the plans of Washington and London. They adopted the tactic of dragging out the conflict in order to exhaust the Russian Federation in it and deplete its resources, and not by washing, so they will achieve their goal by skating. Because, having dragged Putin onto the warpath on February 24, 2022, they will no longer let him turn off it or turn back, no matter how hard the Kremlin tries.

And it cannot be said that Moscow is doomedly crawling along this path to the slaughter, the Kremlin is undertaking various diplomatic maneuvers to jump off this slippery path. The recent trip of Dmitry Kozak, Deputy Head of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation, to European capitals, where he held behind-the-scenes backroom negotiations, persuading the leaders of these countries (through ex-politicians and persons authorized by them) to force the Kyiv regime to conclude a temporary truce with the fixation of the current status quo according to the Korean scenario, is proof of this. Why did Moscow need it, I explained here (Those who have not had time to read it can still do it). To briefly repeat, the Kremlin has now dramatically changed its tactics in Ukraine, to the general surprise of the Russian patriotic public. Now he is dragging the database there in every possible way, forcing the West to drag the Zelensky regime around its neck, paying for both the war and the maintenance of the entire Ukrainian house from their pockets, and they are not as bottomless as some here think.

It so happened that, without taking Kyiv in 72 hours, or in three weeks, as Washington expected, Putin forced time to play against the United States - sanctions against Russia did not give the expected effect, and the content of the Kyiv regime began to pull Grandpa Joe's pocket. Realizing this, Putin began to stupidly wait for the changing of the guard in the White House, quite rightly believing that victory would be achieved with little bloodshed (moreover, with little bloodshed on both sides - both Ukrainian and Russian). At the same time, Grandpa Joe's hours in the Oval Office are shrinking like pebbled leather, forcing him to force things by raising the stakes and escalating the database in Ukraine with deliveries of heavy offensive equipment.

The situation is further aggravated by the fact that with the loss of control over the lower house of Congress by the Democrats, clouds began to gather over Grandpa Joe himself. The Republicans have launched a case frozen 2 years ago about top secret documents found in Grandpa Joe's garage. How this could happen and how they got there, the Alzheimer's client himself cannot explain. The situation is aggravated by the fact that Trump was accused of something similar 4 years ago, then the Democrats almost brought the case to impeachment. I don’t know what prevents the Republicans from recouping already on Biden. In any case, now old Joe is hobbled, he is no longer up to delivering his main battle tanks to Ukraine, so control over it is temporarily transferred to the UK, and do not be embarrassed by her prime minister’s sudden decision for many to transfer 12 of her main battle tanks to Kyiv. The suddenness here is only apparent. The West was forced to take these steps in response to Putin's behind-the-scenes maneuvers to freeze the conflict. How successful Kozak's voyage was, we will see in the near future, or rather, on January 20, when a decision will be made at Ramstein-8 on the allocation of the main battle tanks of the FRG and Great Britain to Kyiv.

And, take my word for it, they will be singled out, since the West is not going to remove the noose from Russia’s neck in the near future, no one has canceled the re-equipment of NATO armies with more modern equipment and the disposal of existing junk in the Ukrainian theater, and due to this, the restart of its own military-industrial complex has also not been canceled, and therefore I vangut that Ukraine, on freshly allocated NATO armor, will go into its last and decisive battle already at the end of spring (the deadline is before mid-summer) and either lay down its head or bargain for more favorable conditions for a truce, which the Kremlin itself is pushing, and through his authorized representative - the Turkish Sultan, who is interested in the laurels of the peacemaker (who has elections soon, in which he is going to win at the expense of the external track). This is my forecast, it remains only to compare the strengths of the opposing sides.

Will we see tank battles in Ukraine?


Regarding the performance characteristics of the supplied equipment, then, take my word for it, it is very worthy - it will not seem a little to anyone. Both the Leopard-2 in the A4 configuration (and no one is going to supply other, newer modifications - A5, A6 and A7V to Ukraine), and the Challenger-2 are excellent cars that are head and shoulders above both in cross-country ability and in the main battle tanks T-64, T-72, PT-91 Twardy (this is the Polish version of the T-72), T-80 and even their vaunted T-84U "Oplot" ( which no one saw at the front, but according to the documents, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have five whole pieces).

However, unfortunately, the Russian MBTs involved in the SVO are also inferior to the "Germans" and "British". And here we are not even talking about the decommissioned and modernized T-62s, I'm talking about various modifications of the T-72 (A, AV, B, BA, B3), T-80 (BV, BVM, U) and T-90A , which in many respects are also inferior to foreigners (both in engine power, and in cross-country ability, and in optics, and in navigation, and in fire control, and in security), surpassing them only in gun power and power reserve (and that last applies only to Challenger 2). Only the T-90M "Breakthrough" can adequately withstand the English and Bundes units, and a meeting with him already does not bode well for them.

But, we must pay tribute, the Germans are recognized trendsetters in tank building, and on the basis of their Leopard-2 they created the ideal vehicle of that time, which has no equal in terms of chassis and cross-country ability (MBT was adopted by the Bundeswehr in 1979 ). In addition, the design of the tank and its 1500-horsepower turbocharged V-shaped 12-cylinder diesel engine MB 873 (manufactured by MTU) made it possible to upgrade the product on this platform, which led to the creation of Leopard-2 modifications A2, A3, A4 , A5, A6 and A7 + than our T-90M "Breakthrough" cannot boast of (T-90M is the final stage of platform development, this design does not imply opportunities for reinforcement).

But the armament and security of the "Breakthrough" of his German and English colleagues can only envy. When meeting with him, they will have little chance of surviving. The Challenger-2 has a 120-mm L30A1 rifled gun (manufactured by Royal Ordnance), this is the only rifled gun of this caliber in service with NATO, which gives good accuracy of combat, but is inferior to our 125-mm 2A46M-5 smoothbore gun in terms of armor penetration thickness. The Leopard-2 is doing better, because it is equipped with a powerful 120-mm Rh-120 smoothbore gun (manufactured by Rheinmetall). But the characteristics of our gun are such that it surpasses the best NATO tank gun - Rh120 L / 55 (caliber 120 mm, barrel length 55 calibers), used on the German Leopards-2 and American Abrams, in caliber, and therefore in destructive power, which allows the T-90M to fire from distances inaccessible to the enemy. As for the hinged dynamic and active protection, the Breakthrough is equipped with dynamic and active protection complexes - KDZ "Relikt" and elements of the KAZ "Afganit", which nullify all anti-tank warfare systems in service with NATO. While the foreign counterparts of the T-90M do not have the proper level of protection, which will allow him, when meeting with them, simply shoot them point-blank from a distance inaccessible to them, thereby burying the myth of the invincibility of German and British weapons.

It is clear that 12 Challenger-2s supplied by Britain and 14 Leopards-2 sent by Poland to help Zelensky will not make a difference in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but the main thing here is to start deliveries, and, believe me, get rid of stale trash in the person of Leopards-2A4, both Spain (it has long been offering itself in this capacity, it has 108 units of 2A4 in storage, which it has not known where to put for a long time), and Finland (it also has 139 units of unnecessary 2A4 units), and Norway (which dreams of replacing its 52 2A4 units with more recent 2A7 or Korean K2 Black Panther), and Greece (which, despite the threat of war with Turkey, can give in to the pressure of partners and share its 183 2A4 units), and even Canada (which also had 62 2A4M units that it did not need lying around in warehouses). So far, the delay is only for Berlin, which does not give the go-ahead for the re-export of its armor, but, believe me, the "liver sausage" will be crushed, and Scholz, reluctantly, will give his permission for the supply, especially since he also has 50 2A4 units lying around, who also need to go somewhere. The equipment is old, gathering dust in warehouses, it only takes up space, it is expensive to maintain and modernize it, and it makes no sense when a more perfect one has already appeared, Ukraine is the best place where it can be disposed of, and also cut down money for it.

Britain, which has only 2 units of its own Challenger-227s, is just a stalker in this matter, it is not going to lower its combat potential (which is already small) for the sake of the Ukrainians, its task is to “uncork the bottle” , crush Scholz, and then sit and watch how the fire of escalation flares up in Ukraine and the Russians are fried on its slow fire. The Poles have a slightly different interest here, in addition to the desire to annoy Russia and participate in the partition of Ukraine, Poland has long been overwhelmed by secret dreams of dominance in Europe, where Germany is still undividedly in charge. And since the Germans are not going to cede their positions of their own free will, the Poles are quite planning to do it by force, threatening to use weapons. But, having in service the German "Leopards-2" in the amount of 247 units in the A4 and A5 configuration, it is foolish to count on this. That is why the Poles started re-equipping from German vehicles to South Korean K2 Black Panther and American M1A2 Abrams SEP v.3, for which they, with a dear soul, are ready to float to Ukraine not only 126 2A4 units, but also 105 2A5 units, plus 16 2PL units in addition. As you can see, if the plans of the partners fail, then Ukraine will simply be overwhelmed with tanks.

And if we add to this the American Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, which the States have already approved for delivery in the amount of 50 units and which are head and shoulders above all our analogues (BMP-1 and 1AM, BMP-2 and 2M, BMP-3 and 3M, as well as BTR-80A and BTR-82A and AM), then the oil painting will become complete. But before the end of spring, Kyiv will not master the delivered equipment, and the West will not deliver it in commercial quantities so quickly. And it is still unknown how Kozak's voyage ended. Therefore, we are sitting, waiting for January 20, holding our fists. The bird, as Putin recently said, bites grain by grain. Let's see who gets it.

Although for me personally, this is an open secret. Whose will take, I already said at the beginning of the article. The decision has already been made in Washington, the rest is details. "Liver Sausage" Scholz has already proved his gutta-percha more than once, believe me, and this time he will not resist for long. And by the summer we will see in Ukraine from 120 to 150 Leopard-2A4 MBTs from all of the above countries (except Canada). It’s not a fact that they will be delivered in one go, but you will remember the number. But whether we will see tank battles in the style of the battle of Prokhorovka in Ukraine, this is unlikely. Although the Ukrainians will do everything for this (and are already doing it, lowering the level of the Dnieper). It is obvious that an attempt will be made to break through our defenses in the Zaporozhye direction in order to reach Melitopol - Berdyansk and cut the land corridor to the Crimea. It is for this that the level of the Dnieper is being lowered in order to increase the number of places for crossing it and capturing a bridgehead. This will be the very general battle, which will determine the outcome of the entire campaign. The forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not be enough for the second such offensive, after which I do not completely rule out the opening of a second front and the entry of the Polish (and maybe Romanian) Army into the territory of Western Ukraine and Bukovina, of course, at the request of the legally elected president of the Independent, Vladimir Zelensky (but this will happen before December).

I can also say for sure that these plans are not a revelation for Moscow, and it is stubbornly preparing to resist them, increasing the size of its grouping in Ukraine and saturating it with T-90M tanks (Uralvagonzavod works in 4 shifts, 24/7, releasing 20-30 new tanks monthly). Whether a preemptive strike will be delivered, I doubt very much, it is obvious that the Kremlin has relied on a counter strike and is waiting for the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Zaporozhye direction. There, a kind of Battle of Kursk will play out, which does not exclude distracting strikes in other directions, at least this can be judged based on equipment with snow camouflage, which is now in Belarus.

That's all I have on this topic. We are waiting for developments. Your Mr. Z
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    1. +10
      17 January 2023 09: 11
      One thing I can say is that from sitting “stupidly” in the trenches since June of last year, almost along the entire front line, nothing good will come of it. We even missed the moments when all the bridges across the Dnieper, all the junction railway stations, all the places where the wheels for trains are “changed shoes”. It could have been bombed. Now NATO brought in a "sea" of various equipment and covered the sky. And our soldiers are all fired upon in the trenches, 90% of the losses of the Russian army from MLRS and artillery ....
      1. +1
        17 January 2023 21: 48
        Although the Ukrainians will do everything for this (and are already doing it, lowering the level of the Dnieper). It is obvious that an attempt will be made to break through our defenses in the Zaporozhye direction ...

        The lowered level of the Dnieper, during the offensive, can rise, with the destruction of the dam, higher along the channel?
        1. -2
          17 January 2023 22: 06
          means what? ... it means that they will take the bridgehead right now ... we are waiting, sir ...
        2. 0
          21 January 2023 16: 58
          By the way, the concrete dam itself, part of the earthen dam and the locks are in the hands of the Russian troops. So, it is quite possible to raise the level of the Dnieper in the Kherson region.
      2. +3
        18 January 2023 16: 28
        We? I and the rest of the citizens of Russia did not miss anything. And I'm sure that "we" has a surname, name, patronymic! And everyone knows him!
    2. +4
      17 January 2023 10: 01
      But what extra money "authors and experts." There will be single tanks, there won't be, it's unclear.
      And the flow of articles is already going on.
      As always, they paint that it doesn’t matter, it’s not enough, it’s old, everything will be broken, stolen, stuck, frozen, dry, burned, etc.
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      2. +1
        17 January 2023 21: 39
        As always, they paint that it doesn’t matter, it’s not enough, it’s old, everything will be broken, stolen, stuck, frozen, dry, burned, etc.

        We were told for a long time about beyraktars, javelins, axes and other prodigies (you can’t even remember everything). They chewed it up and now they don’t remember about them anymore .. Now there are new mriyas.
      3. +4
        18 January 2023 07: 23
        But even in this flurry of articles, the current one is a separate gem

        At the same time, I am not a visionary at all, I just know the goal-setting of NATO and the United States, but you do not.
      4. +1
        18 January 2023 14: 42
        Everything is just like that! And everyone strives to tell that tanks against tanks will fight barrel to barrel! The authors are unaware that 90% of tanks are destroyed by artillery and aircraft.
    3. +6
      17 January 2023 11: 40
      and I am surprised by the "experts" who are all waiting for new "tank battles near Prokhorovka" - the American military, who develop tactics and strategy of the Armed Forces, are not stupid, unlike many of our "experts" and stripes, in modern (!) War " tank battles" is the exception, not the rule!
      1. -5
        17 January 2023 21: 05
        and that the author claims that there will be battles? why pull an owl on a globe?!
    4. -2
      17 January 2023 12: 09
      ... Putin began to stupidly wait for the changing of the guard in the White House, quite rightly believing that he would achieve victory with little bloodshed (moreover, with little bloodshed on both sides - both Ukrainian and Russian).

      this is the whole essence of Putin's policy - to wait until the enemy's corpse floats past him, he is a waiter by nature, but the time has come when Putin's "partners" have already understood what all his HPPs are and now they will not let him "stupidly" wait, otherwise he and the country will lose
      1. -1
        17 January 2023 21: 06
        we'll see - a bird by the grain!
    5. 0
      17 January 2023 12: 10
      2A82-1M are installed only on the T-14. There were already a bunch of articles on this topic, where it was popularly explained why it was almost impossible to do this on the T-90M. Everyone who claims otherwise ends up with a link from 2019, where it is stated that 2A82-1M is "planned" to be installed on the T-90M. And by the way, the statement that the Challenger's rifled gun is inferior in terms of aiming range is rather doubtful, given that the L30A1 holds the record for hitting range. She has problems with reliability and wear, but in theory, a rifled gun should have an advantage in range.
      1. 0
        17 January 2023 21: 44
        correct correction, thx! The T-90M is equipped with a 125-mm 2A46M-5 smoothbore gun (a modified version of the 2A46M gun) produced by Plant No. 9, Barricades, Motovilikha Plants, Nizhny Novgorod Machine-Building Plant (four manufacturers, the developer is the first, Yekaterinburg OKB-9) . The gun was put into service in 2005. Installed in T-90A/AM tanks. In addition, it can be installed on earlier modifications of the T-90, as well as on T-72 tanks.

        As for the Challenger-2, I meant that the T-90M had armor in the form of combined anti-ballistic armor with fillers in the form of plane-parallel plates and inserts made of high-hardness steel and other materials, as well as dynamic and active protection (KDZ Relikt and KAZ Afganit), which should negate all the advantages of the L30A1
    6. 0
      17 January 2023 15: 12
      Your author is bad with mathematics in a day of 24 hours and 4 shifts, it doesn’t work out.
      1. 0
        17 January 2023 15: 18
        Well, he writes with humor. your style.
        you're chicking...
      2. -2
        17 January 2023 21: 09
        people are not iron - shift for 6 hours, wartime conditions, 7 days a week, without days off and breaks
        1. 0
          18 January 2023 14: 45
          You are so sure of this, as if you were standing at the machine yourself. We have a 12 hour workday order.
          1. 0
            23 January 2023 20: 34
            It is possible that a special, closed order was issued for defense enterprises. Or do you doubt that it is possible?
        2. 0
          23 January 2023 21: 37
          Some people don't need to be explained at all! I read the comments on this publication and realized that almost every commentator considers himself an "expert".
      3. 0
        23 January 2023 20: 28
        Why doesn't it work? And if shifts are 6 hours, not 8 hours? 6×4=24
    7. -3
      17 January 2023 15: 48
      The analytics is good. If not for the first 2 paragraphs of self-praise, it would be even better.
    8. +5
      17 January 2023 16: 08
      Well, as far as forecasts - anything can happen. But you don't have to go into technology. It is not the power of the engine that is important, but the specific power - the ratio of power to the mass of the tank. According to this characteristic, our cars are quite on the level, and also in terms of cross-country ability. No wonder they were tested on the chernozems of UA, in contrast to others.
      In addition, it is useless to measure tank against tank - the war has become different. Chrysanthemum, Cornet, Whirlwind, Attack should take care of the guests. We'll see what's worth there.
      1. 0
        17 January 2023 21: 18
        Are these "towers" better? Looks like things are really bad..
    9. 0
      17 January 2023 17: 59
      Well, inu. Analyst There are fifty tanks for one and a half thousand kilometers of the front. They are now chasing each other through the forest belts. Even a hundred tanks are difficult to capture. A splinter of wires will be broken.
      1. +1
        17 January 2023 18: 06
        like an ace heating pad

        at what cost?
      2. 0
        23 January 2023 20: 38
        ... these fifty will tear like a heating pad

        Here's another jingoistic patriot and a hat thrower.
    10. +2
      17 January 2023 18: 09
      and clearly define the goals of the operation

      Let's define ":

      1. protection of the inhabitants of Donbass (GDP).

      2. eradicate the Nazi ideology (denazification (GDP).

      3. disarmament (demilitarization (GDP).
      here you can enter:
      a. to deprive the opportunity to acquire their own nuclear weapons, to deploy NATO structures (... from every iron). Well, you can also add - the production of weapons. PK R "Neptune" - heard?

      the best way to break the enemy fleet is to prevent him from building it

      (J. Friedman)

      b. grinding of Soviet weapons, nashar inherited by non-brothers in the Department of Internal Affairs after the collapse of the USSR (mine)

      4. unification of the Russian people. ,,20 million Russian-speaking people ended up abroad after the collapse of the USSR" (GDP)

      5. ,,... to the home harbor "territories (from each iron)

      6.
      ... all of Ukraine is needed, otherwise Tomahawks are not near Kharkov, but near Lvov

      (V. Volkonsky)
      *can be attributed to point 3.

      7.
      return fear to america, dedollarization

      (V. Volkonsky)
      ... a multipolar world (from every iron)

      8. waters of the Azov and Black Seas. (prevent Nata from building his own naval bases (from each iron)
      *can also be attributed to point 3.

      9. ,, wrest from the hands of "the English colony.
      (agrarian superpower, raw materials appendage of Europe. heard?) (mine)

      10. Break out of the semi-colonial state on your own.
      remember, from each iron - "country-gas station"
      (my)

      Its yna for a place under the sun.
      also refer to the multipolar world.

      otherwise, why did they advance ...?

      obviously impossible conditions

      (V. Volkonsky. articles about "Putin's ultimatum")
      1. -1
        17 January 2023 21: 55
        Well, you're straight, an encyclopedist! taking off my hat!
      2. +2
        18 January 2023 07: 33
        The goals are great. But isn't it time to take stock of their achievement? Almost a year has passed. On demilitarization, however, our Ministry of Defense summed up as early as March 14. Like, 95 percent of Ukrainian armored vehicles and aviation destroyed. This makes me happy. It would be nice to be happy on the other points as well.
    11. -1
      17 January 2023 18: 43
      How much has the T90 army been saturated there? Have you delivered three tanks?
      The collective West can supply two orders of magnitude more tanks.
      1. 0
        17 January 2023 21: 57
        open the wiki - go nuts! the bill goes to hundreds! and UVZ works in 4 shifts day and night
      2. 0
        18 January 2023 00: 56
        UVZ works for wear and tear in several shifts. t-90m is already in every second video about tanks. sometimes they get hit on these videos.

        also T-72b3m or whatever.
    12. +4
      17 January 2023 19: 33
      As you already understood, the optimistic scenario is connected with us (if we take control of the situation into our own hands and no longer rely on the mercy of God in the face of the collective West), then the end of the NWO will be tied to the presidential elections in the Russian Federation, scheduled for March 17, 2024 (Putin will definitely not pass on such a problem as Ukraine to his successor)

      Inconsistency in the article. You write that Putin will finish the NWO by any election

      Putin forced time to play against the United States - sanctions against Russia did not give the expected effect, and the content of the Kyiv regime began to pull Grandpa Joe's pocket. Realizing this, Putin began to stupidly wait for the changing of the guard in the White House, quite rightly believing that victory would be achieved with little bloodshed (moreover, with little bloodshed on both sides - both Ukrainian and Russian). At the same time, Grandpa Joe's hours in the Oval Office are shrinking like pebbled leather, forcing him to force things by raising the stakes and escalating the database in Ukraine with deliveries of heavy offensive equipment.

      Here write that Putin is playing for a long time and pulling until the US elections in November 2024, tobish even later than the elections of Putin himself in March 2024. So Putin will transfer power along with the war to the receiver or end it?

      The situation is further aggravated by the fact that with the loss of control over the lower house of Congress by the Democrats, clouds began to gather over Grandpa Joe himself. The Republicans have launched a case frozen 2 years ago about top secret documents found in Grandpa Joe's garage. How this could happen and how they got there, the Alzheimer's client himself cannot explain.

      In general, in my opinion, two parties in the United States have been created, I apologize for the expression to spin the bullshit around the world. Like two parties. freedom of choice and other heresy. hiding behind any kind of democracy and multi-party system, pointing to ourselves saying that this is who we are and you must become the same. But in fact, we don’t care at all which party in the USA will be in power, they always have one course and this course says that we are enemies for them and they never turn away from it.

      They adopted the tactic of dragging out the conflict in order to exhaust the Russian Federation in it and deplete its resources, and not by washing, so they will achieve their goal by skating. Because, having dragged Putin onto the warpath on February 24, 2022, they will no longer let him turn off it or turn back, no matter how hard the Kremlin tries.

      So far, they are doing it well at 100000% and no general frost is mythical by many and the frozen Europeans on their barricades burning tires did not even closely coincide with the forecasts of ex-Sperts on TV and other bloggers on the Internet. Therefore, either now we are breaking the back or Alas .. .........................further sadness for many years or a shameful peace with a mandatory war in the future but with rivers of blood.
      1. -1
        17 January 2023 22: 01
        there are two scenarios - optimistic (March 2024) and pessimistic (November 2024), if the first one does not burn out, there will be no elections in March (they will reschedule)
      2. -3
        17 January 2023 23: 18
        Valera, son! I am very glad that you are not in the NWO, but at home, lying on your couch and being wiser! Stay where you are, and the elders will somehow figure it out without you!
        1. +1
          18 January 2023 02: 51
          Quote from Sancy
          Valera, son! I am very glad that you are not in the NWO, but at home, lying on your couch and being wiser! Stay where you are, and the elders will somehow figure it out without you!

          To call me son you "old man" must be at least 70 years old. laughing
          1. 0
            27 July 2023 21: 40
            Valera, son, I am 72 years old.
    13. +3
      17 January 2023 21: 30
      Only the T-90M "Breakthrough" can adequately withstand the English and Bundes units, and a meeting with him already does not bode well for them.

      Don't wait. All these units will be knocked out by anti-tank systems, as they are found on the front end ..
      1. 0
        17 January 2023 22: 24
        TA-dah. they showed on TV - tanks along with crews ...
        Poles refuse to go to/on
      2. -2
        18 January 2023 00: 54
        you will put it on every meter of anti-tank systems. and on the T-90m 2 sights with thermal imagers.
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    16. +1
      18 January 2023 00: 53
      author, well, you give.

      then you have an Armata 2A82-1M gun on the T-90m, then you have an Afghanit on the T-90m. then your rifled Challenger gun does not shoot well.

      can you organize an educational program?
      1. -3
        18 January 2023 07: 22
        and this is written to me by a person who cannot distinguish the T-72 in the video from the T-90M, I got better about the gun, but you are wrong about the Afghanit
        Only T-90AM has active protection. It partially uses the nodes of the Afghanit active protection complex, which is fully installed on the promising T-14 tank. In the export version of the tank - T-90SM - at the request of the customer, KAZ "Arena-E" can be installed; it has the same principle of action, but more limited functionality
        1. 0
          18 January 2023 21: 41
          are you sending me this message?

          1. I quite accurately distinguish the t-72 from the t-90m. and on the basis of what did you decide that I do not distinguish?
          2. t-90am does not exist! in the presence of t-90m, without Afghans, without any active protection. fortunately, at least with dynamic protection, they normally covered him, which, however, did not save him recently from an RPG, which actually destroyed him in the forehead, falling into a weakened zone.
    17. 0
      18 January 2023 01: 25
      Graphomaniac. With claims.
    18. +1
      18 January 2023 02: 00
      Why does the author think that Abrams will not be handed over to Ukrainians. Three Baltic sisters already have a full-fledged US tank division with all the equipment. What a problem to transfer used materiel and get a new one from the metropolis!
    19. 0
      18 January 2023 09: 22
      Peaks, canopies over the tower will have to be returned, otherwise from the Khan's javelins soldier
      1. 0
        18 January 2023 10: 00
        and from UAV

        https://topwar.ru/208840-rossijskim-tankam-neobhodimo-vernut-zaschitnye-kozyrki-iz-za-atak-dronov.html
    20. +2
      18 January 2023 16: 25
      I am absolutely sure that the supply of these tanks is a trial balloon. If the suckers, as always, chew on snot, instead of acting tough, then the flow of Western tanks will be like a waterfall! Like other Western weapons.
    21. +1
      18 January 2023 17: 28
      What else would the author like to tell other novice amateur graphomaniacs?

      Of course, for the goal-setting of NATO, whoever but the author knows, I don’t argue here. But when the grunt about tanks and tank guns in particular begins - damn it, this is not even an early Arestovich, and I have known him for more than 20 years, not all the authors of the Reporter were still born then. Is the author generally aware that the technical range, as well as the rate of fire, mean little even in tank biathlon? The machine does not fight with a pherical vacuum. Everything is determined by the tactics of application, interaction and specifics of the theater of operations. The fact that the practical firing range on the European theater of operations is two kilometers negates the very conditional advantages in range. Not to mention tactics. With modern means of reconnaissance and destruction, it would be a miracle if Leo and Tshki met at all. Or does it seem to someone that there will be a second Prokhorovka or Brody?
    22. -1
      18 January 2023 17: 35
      Western tanks are not adapted to combat operations in our natural conditions. Monsters of 70 tons. This is a marketing product.
      1. 0
        23 January 2023 20: 47
        Quote: Sergey Marty
        Western tanks are not adapted to combat operations in our natural conditions. Monsters of 70 tons. This is a marketing product.

        Yes, of course "not adapted." Where do you get these "experts" from? What hole are you crawling out of?
    23. 0
      18 January 2023 18: 01
      Muddy text. The main weapon against the armored vehicles of the Banderwehrmacht will be "product 305", which was put into service at the end of 22. And just coming into service K-52M. A range of under 15 km with teleguidance and a warhead mass of 25 kg should ensure a defeat efficiency of more than 75%. Any tanks are not enough.
      1. 0
        18 January 2023 21: 46
        why 305e??? the whirlwind is quite enough for the eyes. no one will leave.
    24. +1
      18 January 2023 21: 49
      It so happened that, without taking Kyiv in 72 hours, or in three weeks, as Washington counted on it, Putin forced time to play against the United States - sanctions against Russia did not give the expected effect, and the content of the Kyiv regime began to pull grandfather Joe's pocket - as our president, acting as a chicken, said - a chicken pecks grain by grain, you look at Grandpa Joe's entire pocket and peck out
    25. 0
      19 January 2023 02: 45
      Mr. Z article is simply excellent, clear presentation of facts, excellent analysis of the material, logical conclusions. I especially liked "the transition of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the NATO standard became inevitable, like the collapse of imperialism." . In a word, "bravo" maestro! We sit and wait, because, because no one thought that such an interesting program for a couple of years has already been developed for us.))
    26. +1
      19 January 2023 04: 30
      Bullshit from the weatherman...
      impossible to read in full.
      WHY do people like this give out their thoughts to everyone ...
      NWO will continue until NATO dies, even if this requires the Russian Federation to help Ukraine continue to fulfill its puppet role!
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      0
      22 January 2023 20: 03
      You see the word "goal setting" in the first paragraph, you know - this is Mr. Z broadcasting. Your Mr. Z
    28. 0
      23 January 2023 02: 58
      strange opus; the author seriously believes that
      a) means of dealing with tanks other than the tanks themselves do not exist in nature
      b) the bigger the tank, the better it is
      c) a tank is something in a vacuum, howling by itself exclusively with its own kind
    29. 0
      23 January 2023 09: 48
      This is not the first time I have read these opuses. It is ridiculous to tears. Especially about the comparison of MBTs from different countries and not only. Knowledge of the performance characteristics voiced is not an understanding of the real use of the potential in modern realities. In politics, there is even less understanding of what and how, who and where. Draw conclusions from what has already been done and how it would be "possible" this will happen. Well, really, don't make people laugh "Their Uncle Zi".
    30. 0
      23 January 2023 13: 09
      Couch strategists revived - they brought down a flurry of criticism on VG and a bunch of tips on how to win!
    31. 0
      23 January 2023 19: 12
      2A4 rather corresponds to 72B3 and 80ke. How they burn has already been seen in Syria.
    32. 0
      23 January 2023 21: 32
      And by the summer we will see in Ukraine from 120 to 150 Leopard-2A4 MBTs from all of the above countries (except Canada). It is not a fact that they will be delivered in one go, but you will remember the number.

      It is quite possible that this will be the case. Ukraine is a great place to dispose of obsolete Western equipment.
    33. 0
      14 June 2023 12: 50
      The author pours out "wise slogans" and predictions, presenting his purely personal opinion as reality and undeniable truth from the first person. "Take my word for it ... it will be so ... it cannot be otherwise ... and so on .." all this is just a personal idea and unreasoned convictions! But when it comes directly to tanks, ". I'm talking about various modifications of the T-72 (A, AV, B, BA, B3), T-80 (BV, BVM, U) and T-90A, which in many respects are also inferior to foreigners (both in engine power, and in cross-country ability, and in optics, and in navigation, and in fire control, and in security), surpassing them only in gun power and power reserve (and the latter applies only to the Challenger-2 "")..." already looks like sophism. It doesn't even make sense to refute all these "statements". One can only say that any tank is a very formidable weapon, but much depends not only on the capabilities of the vehicle itself, but on the experience and skill of the crew. And to say that which tank is completely superior to other tanks, you need to at least drive it at least once.