Is the division of Ukraine according to the “Korean scenario” beneficial to Russia?

One of the most curious News recent days - this is a statement by the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council (NSDC) of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov that Kyiv is allegedly being offered a "Korean" version of the division of Ukraine. What is it - misinformation or a deliberate increase in the stakes in the game?

The Ukrainian functionary reported verbatim the following:

We are now offered the Korean version. The so-called conditional 38th parallel. Here are such Ukrainians, but here not such Ukrainians.

According to him, Dmitry Kozak, deputy head of the presidential administration of Russia, is discussing with European politicians settlement of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine through the legal registration of Kyiv's loss of control over the territories in the east of the country. Note that the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov denied these insinuations:

It's unfair, no one talks about it, it's just another duck.

The objective reality is that the "Korean" scenario in the medium term may well turn out to be working, and here's why.

An attempt to solve the problem of the Kyiv regime by force, undertaken on February 24, 2022, turned out to be, let’s say, not entirely successful. When planning a special operation, the enemy was clearly underestimated and that militarytechnical the assistance that the collective West can provide to Ukraine, and the capabilities of the Russian army were somewhat overestimated. The decision on partial mobilization in the RF Armed Forces was at least six months late, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine managed to seriously increase their numbers and combat effectiveness. The war moved to the South-East, and the fighting took on a predominantly positional character. To date, both sides have managed to achieve approximate parity, and so far no one has a decisive advantage that could be implemented in a large-scale offensive and some general battle that would decide the outcome of the entire campaign. Nobody intends to surrender, and the war may well last with varying degrees of success for several more years.

Russia can win here and now only by real super-effort of its entire army, economics and society, but so far the authorities have clearly not matured to this. A full-fledged transition of the country to a military footing has not yet taken place, the mobilization of the economy is still being avoided, and the military reform announced by the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Shoigu will take a long time.
Unfortunately, the NWO is long enough, no matter how much we want to finish everything in our favor as soon as possible. It is this all together that is forcing the Kremlin to look for some options for getting out of the positional “meat grinder” format.

And the "Korean" script "is not so bad as the intermediate one. It is unlikely that even our ruling “elites” will now believe that the hypothetical division of Ukraine will be the end of the matter. The only thing that can be seriously discussed is the form in which the military-political confrontation between Russia and the collective West will take on the territory of Nezalezhnaya. And in this matter, we will be interested in the wording used by Mr. Danilov: “here are such Ukrainians, but here they are not such Ukrainians.”

What are the Ukrainians? After referendums in September 2022, the DPR and LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions became legally part of the Russian Federation, and Crimea and Sevastopol were reunited with Russia in March 2014. Everything, now it is Russian territory, Russian citizens already live there. Talking about Ukraine and Ukrainians there is pointless, and just talking about this topic can lead to criminal liability. Then what kind of Ukrainians are we talking about?

It seems that the subject of discussion may be the territories of Left-Bank Ukraine, which are de facto controlled by the RF Armed Forces, but de jure are not part of the Russian Federation. In particular, our troops are now trying to recapture the city of Kupyansk, which was set aside during the “regrouping”, and then to return Izyum, without which it is simply unrealistic to close the encirclement of the Slavic-Kramatorsk group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And this is not Donbass, but Kharkiv region.

Will Russian troops subsequently hand over Kupyansk, Izyum and Balakleya to the Kyiv regime in order to again endanger the north of Donbass? This would be extremely unwise and short-sighted. The same can be said about the presence of the cities of Kharkiv and Sumy under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It is too dangerous, and the line of contact will simply have to be moved as far as possible from the Russian border. That is, the minimum program for our country within the framework of the NWO will be the maximum liberation of the Left Bank and the establishment of a natural border along the Dnieper, which we will discuss in detail told earlier.

But then the question will arise, what will be the status of this Left-bank Ukraine? Should it also be attached to Russia, so that our border would legally run along the Dnieper? This can be done, but then again there will be no Ukrainians there, only Russians, and there will be no “buffer” between Russia and Ukraine. Again, there is no "Korean" script.

The situation will be different if the Kremlin really decides on the Left Bank to proclaim a new, pro-Russian Ukraine, which will become Anti-Ukraine for the Right Bank, which is under the rule of Kyiv. Then a new subject will indeed be formed to participate in the Civil War that has been going on since 2014 on our part, the need for which we will discuss in detail told previously. On the territory of the Sloboda, Poltava, Chernihiv and Dnipropetrovsk regions, it will be possible to proclaim a new successor state of pre-Maidan Ukraine, refusing to recognize the Zelensky regime, create administrative and law enforcement structures for it, which will be used to eliminate the pro-Nazi Right-Bank Ukraine. The time gained can be used to rearm and prepare the RF Armed Forces and the Ukrainian Volunteer Army for decisive battles on the Right Bank of the Dnieper.

It's a long job, but it can pay off. There is no other reasonable explanation for dividing Ukrainians into “such and not such” according to the conditional 38th parallel.
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  2. Pro100 Offline Pro100
    Pro100 (Vladimir Babaev) 10 January 2023 21: 55
    The Korean scenario involves the division of the country into two, with a different socio-political system, and the USSR, at that time, had quite a significant weight in the world to be heard. Now the situation is somewhat different, although such a scenario cannot be completely rejected.
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 11 January 2023 07: 44
      referred to as intermediate. Hungary, Poland and Romania also have someone to call one people - Hungarians, Poles and Romanians who call themselves Ukrainians.
  3. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 10 January 2023 22: 54
    With such a lack of goals and necessary measures in the Russian Federation to conduct a military defense, our RF Ministry of Defense, accordingly, did not cope with the tasks in a year. Remembering S. Shoigu's recent annual report that the Russian Defense Ministry has completed all the tasks, it is perceived as a mockery of reality. These are the commanders who replace reality with the desired. Regarding the division of Ukraine, the weakness of the RF Armed Forces will lead to pacification at today's borders, no matter how much you would like otherwise. And this is the postponement of the war for the future, but the eternal confrontation with the Ukrainian people. Previously, the main ideological confrontation for Ukraine was lost miserably, without even trying to fight qualitatively, today they failed the military confrontation, with great bloodshed leading to minor victories. Yes, after the SVO, some of the main ones went to jail for a long time, because Russia has not seen such historical losses and losses for a long time.
    1. The Enchanted Wanderer 12 January 2023 16: 26
      Everything was announced a year ago. The strategic goals remain unchanged. No one set a deadline for the SVO. Only the stages were discussed. Now the second stage is underway - the liberation of Donbass. Tactics are flexible. It should be adjusted depending on the course of hostilities, losses and effectiveness. The tasks of the third stage have not yet been announced by the supreme commander.
  4. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 10 January 2023 23: 12
    What a fluff.
    The most profitable scenario is to capture everything.
    Population, land, banks, quarries, factories, ports.
    The less you take, the worse it is. alphabetical truth.
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 11 January 2023 07: 37
      Galicia has already been captured once ... but ideally, it was not worth buying Little Russia either. would not bother with all sorts of Mazepa and Bandera.
  5. Rusa Offline Rusa
    Rusa 10 January 2023 23: 27
    Kyiv politicians throw the Russian Federation a recipe for cabbage with sausage in a pan, in the hope that it will work. )
  6. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 10 January 2023 23: 27
    As authoritative people say, in the war in Ukraine, the existence of the Russian Federation is at stake, and therefore a victory is needed, which means the defeat of the enemy army and peace on the terms of the winner.
    The failure of the SVO is due to incorrect initial data:
    - Millions of Ukrainians hate the current regime. However, fierce battles are going on along the entire front for each settlement.
    - Putin spoke about the development of Ukraine by NATO, from which it followed that NATO would love to defend the developed territory, i.e. Ukraine.
    - no one expected the conduct of positional wars in the 1st century like the 2st and XNUMXnd World Wars, and, accordingly, the structure of the RF Armed Forces was not ready for this.
    - each war has its own characteristics of strategy, tactics, weapons, logistics, economy, ideology, etc., after which they study experience and draw conclusions that do not meet the conditions of new wars.

    "Korean "script", i.e. the division of Ukraine with the preservation of statehood by some of its parts (Zadneprovsk, Transcarpathian or some other) will mean the defeat of the Russian Federation and the postponed war.
    The partition can only be through the loss of its statehood by Ukraine, which is possible, at least, with the occupation of the left-bank part of Ukraine from the Odessa and Nikolaev provinces and the consent of NATO (Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania) and the union state formation BelRus.
  7. Nelton Offline Nelton
    Nelton (Oleg) 10 January 2023 23: 33
    the fighting took on a predominantly positional character. To date, both sides have managed to achieve approximate parity

    In general, yes.

    the minimum program for our country within the framework of the NWO will be the maximum liberation of the Left Bank and the establishment of a natural border along the Dnieper

    ? Here, as it were, to develop an idea, due to which the Russian Federation can break the parity.
    Accumulate forces secretly, and develop success quickly (2-3 weeks), until the West throws up funds to counter our efforts.
    I vaguely imagine how you can take the Kharkov agglomeration or even Poltava in 2-3 weeks.
    God forbid, at least the Donetsk region is completely occupied, and the artillery is moved away from Donetsk.
  8. BMP-2 Offline BMP-2
    BMP-2 (Vladimir V.) 11 January 2023 00: 21
    "Pushing back" and the border "along the Dnieper" do not solve the problem: it will be the same as before 8 years in the Donbass or now in the Kherson region. For artillery and MLRS, the Dnieper is not an obstacle ...
  9. In passing Offline In passing
    In passing (Galina Rožkova) 11 January 2023 01: 28
    Germany was also - ours and not ours. So what? They will pump Nenasha to the very limit with weapons, and they themselves will arrive. Will Russia fight back with Iranian drones? Why, for sure, they will impose on the perimeter, be healthy! No, it is necessary to fight the entire territory, both now and for real. But is it necessary for the real authorities in Russia? Or, as it is rightly said, business as usual? Then there will be nothing, no victory, no denazification. They twitched and everything, they just put people down. I don't know what Putin thinks there.
    1. lance is gone Offline lance is gone
      lance is gone (lance) 11 January 2023 09: 35
      It was Germany that showed the correct direction of the USSR. East Germans even support the Russian Federation in their mass
      1. Carmela Offline Carmela
        Carmela (Carmela) 11 January 2023 12: 21
        Quote: lance vosirob
        East Germans even support the Russian Federation in their mass

        And what's the point?
  10. Potapov Offline Potapov
    Potapov (Valery) 11 January 2023 09: 09
    This is a guarantee of eternal provocations ... It can be neutral and unarmed ... But it’s better - to the ground ....
  11. guest Offline guest
    guest 11 January 2023 16: 04
    When planning a special operation, the enemy was clearly underestimated

    No, only the influence of the corrupt elite on the country's leadership was underestimated.
  12. The Enchanted Wanderer 12 January 2023 16: 31
    Victory in Ukraine is not the main strategic goal - it is only a way to achieve its acceleration. If we have decided to really bend the globalists who have brazenly rolled their lips against our fragmentation, then there is no need to hurry too much towards Victory in Ukraine.
  13. The Enchanted Wanderer 12 January 2023 16: 39
    On the issue of the Korean script. Any intermediate finish is not profitable for us. When the entire right bank, Nikolaev and Odessa are liberated according to the Zaporozhye and Kherson scenario, then peace negotiations can begin about the future of some Ukraine (even Bandera) within some borders.
  14. Valera23 Offline Valera23
    Valera23 (Valera) 15 January 2023 19: 34
    The Russian Federation will not pull the division of Ukraine, no one will allow this to be done. Only war to the bitter end. Either Russia will overcome the West, or vice versa.
  15. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 17 January 2023 13: 13
    There is only one decision on Ukraine in favor of the people of Russia. The state of Ukraine must cease to exist. The entire territory of Ukraine should return to Russia, in the form of regions and republics. There is no need to ask permission from anyone, everything must be done unilaterally. There is no state of Ukraine, no debts, no government of Ukraine in exile, no legal Bandera, no Ukrainian participants in various international organizations, no hostile state on the border of the Russian Federation. Russia will strengthen its economic and military-political influence in the world, there will be direct access to the EU countries. The northwestern part of the Black Sea will belong to Russia.
    If part of Ukraine is left, then today and in the future, Russia will always have an enemy in the person of Ukraine. Ukraine will definitely join NATO and will definitely attack Russia. Everything that is promised and will be spelled out in the Constitution of Ukraine, in its documents, Ukraine will change, in the way that is beneficial to the United States and its satellites.