Russian military correspondents reacted to Putin's decision to declare a truce with Ukraine

January 5 2023 109

On January 5, Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu to introduce a ceasefire along the entire LBS in the NVO zone in Ukraine from 12:00 on January 6 to 24:00 on January 7. Before that, Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Rus' called for a Christmas truce so that the Orthodox could safely visit churches.

It should be noted that the head of the Russian Defense Ministry has already ordered the troops to stop firing at the fronts within the specified time interval. At the same time, many Russian military correspondents, journalists, bloggers and near-military publics reacted with disapproval to the decision taken by the head of state. In their opinion, this is a senseless and hopeless undertaking.

For example, journalist Yuriy Kotenok on his Telegram channel recalled what happened in the Donbass in recent years.

Who said that there will be no more “Minsk truces”? Voila. For eight years, Donbass was forbidden to fire, thereby provoking the enemy. Do we have enough losses? A truce is good when there is a ceasefire on both sides, but when there is a ceasefire, it looks like defeatism

Kitten says.

Blogger Boris Rozhin was also dissatisfied, as he said in his Telegram channel.

It begins... <...> The Minsk "truces" were apparently not enough... None of the "truces" during the years of Minsk-2 was carried out, and it is obvious that this will not be carried out either

Rozhin wrote.

Journalist Aleksey Sukonkin also believes that there was no need to declare a truce, since Kyiv will not appreciate it anyway and will continue hostilities.

It feels as if everyone quickly forgot what such flirting in the first Chechen war eventually led to. And we should remember. However, war is in the trenches. And in the offices - this is the NWO, where you can play nobility. But no one will appreciate this gesture of goodwill

- Sukonkin expressed his point of view in his Telegram channel.

Military correspondent Roman Saponkov expressed his disapproval more briefly in his Telegram channel.

The truce is evil. It is one-way, which means it will not work. Thanks to the Orthodox Church for a brilliant idea. What would we do without you

Saponkov said.

At the same time, the Rybar Telegram channel went over the topic in more detail. They believe that the truce at Christmas is a beautiful "traditional" political gesture, nothing more.

But that's just, maybe stop throwing pearls in front of the pigs? Still not appreciated. From our side, by the way, too. Simply because everyone wants the speedy end of the NWO, with bringing it to at least some logical conclusion. And to make such a gesture in order to wait for provocations from Ukraine and publicly blame them for this is also history, frankly speaking, so-so. Well, blame. And they will say that the Kremlin shelled itself. And the Western media replicate

- says the publication of the Telegram channel "Rybar".

Note that on April 24, 2022, when Orthodox Easter was celebrated, no truce was announced.

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Just a cat

+9

5 January 2023 20: 57

well, let Gundyaev feel like a peacemaker... now let him disappear in a distant monastery. NOBODY appreciated his initiative.
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2. Andrey Gladkikh
  
  -1
  
  6 January 2023 13: 29
  
  Are you, my dear, a Uniate or a pure Catholic, why do you write so dismissively about the patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church?
  1. alexey alexeyev_2
    
    +2
    
    6 January 2023 20: 25
    
    This tobacco dad has. the audacity to call himself a patriarch. He didn’t even bother to serve a memorial service for those killed in Makeyevka. Burn in hell for him.
3. Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich
  
  0
  
  6 January 2023 15: 20
  
  And I would advise YOU how to write better, and express your thoughts more clearly.
Ru_Na

+23

5 January 2023 21: 00

But no one, either in the West or in Ukraine, will appreciate the next peace initiative from the GDP, they will rather take it for weakness!
1. Anatoly21
  
  +16
  
  5 January 2023 21: 46
  
  Another "goodwill gesture" that ends badly for our military! The Commander-in-Chief seems to need to maintain an image for the West
2. Fizik13
  
  +10
  
  5 January 2023 22: 56
  
  Quote: Ru_Na
  But no one, either in the West or in Ukraine, will appreciate the next peace initiative from the GDP, they will rather take it for weakness!
  
  VO, VO!
  In the beginning, the patriarch spoke, now our president. It seems like one of the main and revered church holidays in our country.
  BUT!
  Rumors will begin, the decaying West will sense weakness, the dill will regroup, etc...
  After that, it will be more difficult for us to smoke them out, the number of victims will increase, Even the whole world will not understand the GESTURE OF GOOD WILL, they will squeal from every iron - Russia was frightened. Yes, and dill in the place of a truce will fire at civilians on our territory with greater intensity .....
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4. moran
  
  +9
  
  6 January 2023 01: 09
  
  no one in the West or in Ukraine will appreciate
  
  In vain, my friend, you think so, they will certainly appreciate and use it to the fullest. and the positions will be equipped, and the equipment will be pulled up, and they will be beaten from all trunks. with gratitude and cheerful laughter.
5. Emil
  
  +1
  
  6 January 2023 11: 39
  
  But pigs have no faith and an innate sense of gratitude. They understand only brute force and shrillly demand grub from the owners. This is what training is based on. And it will be continued by Western swineherds
  
  - said Deputy Chairman of the Security Council D.A. Medvedev
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7. Trisha
  
  0
  
  6 January 2023 14: 58
  
  The Lord will appreciate, and it is worth a lot.
Nikolay Volkov

+2

5 January 2023 21: 00

and where are the comments of the great sycophants Senya, Sladkov and Kots ??? how do you, patriots, such a set-up of soldiers from the supreme ???
borisvt

+7

5 January 2023 21: 05

pointless and hopeless

better not say it, damn it!
Indeed, is this Turk really so important that at his request to bend ((
I wonder if the spirit of the GDP will be enough to abandon this rotten idea as soon as possible?
radvas

+13

5 January 2023 21: 17

The fact is that our president is a great Humanist. We are waging a war for fun, with "little bloodshed" crests, the bridges are intact, the railroad, too, the echelons are moving. Probably, this is how they win wars ... Or am I missing something?
1. lord-palladore-11045
  
  +4
  
  5 January 2023 23: 13
  
  He is not a humanist, but ... how to say without a mat ... I don’t know, it doesn’t work. He probably didn't play enough with toys as a child.
  1. prior
    
    0
    
    6 January 2023 10: 16
    
    "Let's live together, well, at least for Christmas" (Leopold-Putin)
2. brondul
  
  +3
  
  5 January 2023 23: 40
  
  Vladimir the Blessed...
3. guest
  
  0
  
  6 January 2023 00: 31
  
  Quote: radvas
  THIS is how wars are won
  
  Yes, that's how our enemies win.
4. Pavel Mokshanov_2
  
  +6
  
  6 January 2023 09: 39
  
  This is not a war, but some kind of misunderstanding, if, in addition to politicians, priests also get into it with their advice.
5. Aylok
  
  +2
  
  6 January 2023 10: 32
  
  rents an old man
potap6509

+7

5 January 2023 21: 20

Here it is asked ..... I, what a truce, to hammer to ground level.
1. Afinogen
  
  +16
  
  5 January 2023 21: 52
  
  Yes, everything is simple. An order came from the Washington Regional Committee. give Bandera a break (they were beaten up pretty badly). Bring reserves, weapons. I won’t be surprised that the fascists will shoot even harder at the peaceful cities of Donbass during the truce.
Constantine N

0

5 January 2023 21: 21

Ukraine will only take advantage of the ceasefire. The West only needs a war in Ukraine. Putin understands this. So he wants to show other countries that he is taking steps towards peace, and not talking about them. Those. either things are getting worse and at least some kind of peace is needed, otherwise there is no way. Or vice versa, there will be an increase in the onslaught in the confrontation. And what are the options, why is this done?
Valera75

+10

5 January 2023 21: 25

The main one didn’t play enough in nobility. If this stop of the database will allow the enemy to gain a foothold, mine something, regroup, etc. and this will lead to a large death of soldiers, and this is likely to be the case, then the meaning of all this? Are you for the whole West an enemy who has hated you for centuries and is always ready and eager to kill you, and to exterminate you directly as a nation, he will never approve of this gesture; on the contrary, in this truce, he will better prepare to kill you.
1. twigs
  
  -1
  
  5 January 2023 23: 08
  
  These Slavic peoples are the enemy of the West. And the children of Zion are in power, if they are not brothers, then definitely partners! karoch "a crow will not peck out the eye of a crow"
Pro100

+1

5 January 2023 21: 25

It remains to hope for God and pray that nothing bad happens during the truce.
Max Inquisitive

-9

5 January 2023 21: 30

Just another demonstration to the world community about the inability of the West to negotiate. Military commissars need to be smarter, and not discuss the orders of the Supreme.
1. ivan2022
  
  -3
  
  5 January 2023 21: 34
  
  It’s a pity for the military men, they blundered ....... Eh, youth, youth ..... such a case presented itself, and they? ....
Vadim Sharygin

+9

5 January 2023 22: 09

I hope that the Russian armed forces will not allow the "Slavoukrainians" to destroy themselves with impunity on the day of the patriarchal and presidential "truce at our expense"!
1. twigs
  
  -5
  
  5 January 2023 23: 05
  
  And what can they do without shells and missiles? Stand cancer and fart towards Kyiv?
2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
  
  -5
  
  6 January 2023 10: 30
  
  truce at our expense
  
  In your dreams, you have lost your sense of reality.
  Like ours went to storm Kyiv, and then Putin announces a truce.
  On all fronts, there is a stupid grinding of the military, both on the one hand and on the other.
  This situation has been going on for several months now. No key events are taking place.
  What is your "at our expense"?
Dust

+14

5 January 2023 22: 13

Another stupidity from the President of Russia.
1. Alexander Tutunenko
  
  +1
  
  6 January 2023 00: 01
  
  But was there anything smart from him during his entire stay on the throne ??
Vladimir80

-1

5 January 2023 22: 16

Perhaps our real situation at the front and in the economy is so bad that they are looking for any loopholes and ways to resume negotiations???
1. twigs
  
  +1
  
  5 January 2023 23: 02
  
  Actually, why is it "possible" Didn't the NWO itself show this with all clarity.
vlad127490

+12

5 January 2023 22: 17

The Kremlin and its "elite" are looking for moves and shows NATO that it is ready to surrender everything, if only the West would take them back to the "golden billion". Another unilateral truce on January 07, 2023, this is from this opera. And you want, and prick, and NATO does not take, and the Russian people can put on a pitchfork. And how they want to rob Russia and live in a golden billion.
1. Nelton
  
  +1
  
  5 January 2023 22: 32
  
  "Surrender everything" - this includes the LDNR, Crimea, compensation for all damage, "guarantees of non-recurrence" in the form of a non-nuclear status.
  It would be much calmer not to start the NWO. However, they started.
  
  But fixing the current situation is still a win for the Kremlin, although far from the one they were going to get a year ago.
  1. Alexey Davydov
    
    +1
    
    5 January 2023 22: 53
    
    But fixing the current situation is still a win for the Kremlin, although far from the one they were going to get a year ago.
    
    It is useless to hope for it.
    The Russian economy was a malnourished cow in the stall of the States, which they mercilessly milked. Now they need allincluding horns and hooves. The only way to get them to give up these intentions is to the threat of their physical destruction
    1. Nelton
      
      -3
      
      5 January 2023 23: 54
      
      Quote: Alexey Davydov
      Now they want everything, including horns and hooves
      
      Don't take them for fools.
      Obviously, the more Western sanctions, the more Russian resources and technologies China gets, well, India, Iran, etc.
      In the toughest scenarios for the Russian Federation, China completely takes under "protection and guardianship" everything up to the Urals. And after that, Kazakhstan has nowhere else to go.
      1. Sam Rimer
        
        +2
        
        6 January 2023 02: 00
        
        Quote from Nelton.
        Quote: Alexey Davydov
        Now they want everything, including horns and hooves
        
        Don't take them for fools.
        Obviously, the more Western sanctions, the more Russian resources and technologies China gets, well, India, Iran, etc.
        In the toughest scenarios for the Russian Federation, China completely takes under "protection and guardianship" everything up to the Urals. And after that, Kazakhstan has nowhere else to go.
        
        Russia is a cash cow for China. Milk is good. There will be no milk, then they will kill for meat.
        
        Alexey Davydov
        
        +1
        
        6 January 2023 11: 43
        
        Sam Rimer:
        Russia is a cash cow for China.
        
        It is clear that the "fifth column" wants to "turn the arrows" on China, but the money is flowing from the Russian economy to the United States. This way has long been known to everyone
        
        Nelton
        
        -2
        
        6 January 2023 12: 04
        
        Quote from Sam Rimer
        Russia is a cash cow for China. Milk is good. There will be no milk, then they will kill for meat.
        
        I do not argue.
        But Russia is at hand with China, and it is much more convenient for them to milk and "slaughter for meat".
        Obviously, even looking at the map.
        
        But according to the logic of those who minus -
        The Russian Federation launched the NMD on the orders of Washington, in order to transfer resources and Siberia to China, and nuclear weapons to Kadyrov.
2. Materialist
  
  +1
  
  6 January 2023 07: 15
  
  for them in the "golden billion" there is no place even near the toilet
  1. Alexey Davydov
    
    -1
    
    6 January 2023 12: 49
    
    I think you are right.
    After, in accordance with their plan, NATO will deal with Russia, and the States will use its nuclear weapons and the remnants of the population against China, they will destroy the rest and organize the hunt for immigrants from Russia around the world. The “elite” that betrayed Russia will also be among those destroyed both on the territory of Russia and in the world. Why? Yes, simply because it will "spoil the view" for them. Having completely closed the "Russian question", they will rewrite history
    1. Alexey Davydov
      
      -1
      
      6 January 2023 13: 17
      
      After, according to their plan...
      
      Of course, I mean the Anglo-Saxons
    2. Alexey Davydov
      
      -1
      
      6 January 2023 16: 45
      
      We must fight for our Motherland, at any cost. She's the only one with us. No one else will be given
Alexey Davydov

+12

5 January 2023 22: 27

Such "numbers" Putin has done more than once.
Externally (formally) - everything seems to be correct.
In fact - "setup" to themselves.
examples:
- hoarding money in the form of reserves in the West and refusing to invest in their own economy
- the annexation of Crimea and the refusal of further actions in Ukraine
- drawing "red lines" and abandoning them with a loss of respect for them from the enemy
- announcement of the Ultimatum and flushing it down the toilet with the disavowal of this possibility from Russia in the future
- placing in the bosom of the enemy gold reserves and giving him most of them
- the beginning of the NWO with the inability to fulfill its tasks and the deterioration of the position of Russia
- replacement of personnel units with contract ones and the flight of contract soldiers to the reserve
- optimization of the army with the replacement of divisions with brigades and optimization back after losses
- reduction of the army to a "compact" one based on strategic nuclear weapons and the unsuitability of this concept in the ongoing war with the West
- the adoption in 2014 of two dozen import substitution programs and the failure of all of them
etc. etc.
The question arises (already rhetorical) - Who does he and the government work for?
1. twigs
  
  +2
  
  5 January 2023 22: 59
  
  Who does he and the government work for?
  
  For whom Yeltsin ordered, they work for that!
2. Alexey Davydov
  
  +1
  
  5 January 2023 23: 03
  
  Such "numbers" Putin has done more than once.
  
  His last "numbers":
  - statement on January 3.01.2022, XNUMX as part of the "nuclear five" on preventing the outbreak of a nuclear war, cutting off Russia's ability to threaten with nuclear weapons
  - setting up Russia in Ukraine for a war with NATO
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Nikolaevich I

+9

5 January 2023 22: 43

The ruling regime seems to have gone crazy! The guys at the front are just a pity!
twigs

+1

5 January 2023 22: 56

this is a pointless and hopeless undertaking.

Yeltsin's cause lives on and wins!
Fizik13

+1

5 January 2023 23: 06

The main thing is that this should not become a habit with our president, to make a truce on great holidays ....
BUT!
Perhaps this is a trial balloon, as the West will appreciate our gesture of goodwill.
Pi Xi! On VO, the site of the ancestor of this site, there are already 104 comments
Ivan Ivanych 68743684

+11

5 January 2023 23: 30

crests in response to this truce will only intensify the shelling of Donetsk
curl

-8

5 January 2023 23: 33

Yes, the so-called. military men in their repertoire. Mzgi did not try to include?
1. cooper
  
  +4
  
  6 January 2023 00: 48
  
  You try it yourself, stick your thinking in place.
reader

+9

5 January 2023 23: 37

Zadolbal he already his gestures of goodwill. The sooner the Durkain army is defeated, the sooner the Orthodox will live freely. While Donetsk is under continuous shelling - what kind of ceasefire can we talk about? It would be better if the guys on the front line were asked how they like this idea, or the families of the dead military personnel or those who returned from Bandera captivity ... How to give life, so come on people - do your duty, but how to make crazy decisions - so "smart" people more visible in the Kremlin. For him, this is apparently like a computer strategy, he pissed off a bunch of soldiers - it doesn’t matter, now in the barracks, on a click, new ones are riveted. Bucha, Kharkiv, Kherson, a grain deal, etc. - how many more times are they going to give a shit to the soul of the people of Russia???

CBO - Strange Military Operation
calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich

-8

5 January 2023 23: 45

These 36 hours are not for the enemy, but for us - so as not to become brutalized, not to be brutish, to recover morally for the year ahead.
It's not about turning the cheek, but focusing on the main thing for which we are fighting - resisting evil, and not who will push someone out of life into death. The last thesis equalizes us. They will shoot - you will have to answer if necessary, but this is different. Everything they do during these hours will pull our bowstring even stronger. And the head will remain cold, wise.
1. Alexey Davydov
  
  +5
  
  5 January 2023 23: 54
  
  Article:
  ... the head of the Russian Ministry of Defense has already ordered the troops to stop firing at the fronts at the specified time interval.
  
  You know perfectly well how thoughtlessly and literally we are now following orders.
  
  calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich (Dmitry):
  They will shoot - you will have to answer if necessary, but this is different.
  
  With the possibility of uncertainty and the need for additional actions to make a decision, this order senselessly reduces the combat readiness of units in a risky period, which is simply stupid, and stupidity is now a convenient disguise for betrayal.
  This order is in fact huge a loophole for enemy provocations, which in general hard to explain stupidity
  1. calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich
    
    -5
    
    6 January 2023 00: 00
    
    Russian forces will respond to the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) if they try to violate the ceasefire on the line of contact. This statement was made by the acting head of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) Denis Pushilin in his Telegram channel.
    He emphasized that the decision on the ceasefire concerns the initiative fire or offensive actions by Russia. Pushilin also assured that the Russian forces would not allow the Armed Forces to improve their positions during the ceasefire.
    
    - a quote from the comments on VO.
    So everything is under control.
    1. Alexey Davydov
      
      +4
      
      6 January 2023 00: 22
      
      What does the acting head of the DPR have to do with the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation that received the order? He could only express his understanding of this order. Anyway this order senselessly complicates our situation during this crucial period
2. In passing
  
  0
  
  6 January 2023 13: 32
  
  I'm with you. But not only. Another opportunity for at least someone on the other side to think. Hold services in churches, pray to people. Don't get hard, people.
re

+2

5 January 2023 23: 49

why someone should appreciate it, you still expect thanks.
zuuukoo

+9

6 January 2023 00: 15

Actually, in Kyiv they have already announced that a truce will only take place after the withdrawal of troops to the 1991 borders.
Berlin also said that they would be happy with a truce after the withdrawal of troops.
Nafika was disgraced, one wonders, if everything was already clear.
Maybe age-related diseases...
Opozdavshiy

-7

6 January 2023 00: 42

Not a truce was announced, but a ceasefire for Orthodox Christmas until 24:00 on January 7. That is 36 hours.
Why lie and distort, especially in an editorial.
Russia preserves Russian Orthodoxy for the Russian world.
Do you understand that, disapproving gentlemen?
Understand what anyone says, it doesn't matter. Under no circumstances do any assessments of the utterly deceitful West and Kyiv sucking it out of it no longer matter and will not matter. From the word at all.
Christmas is in people's souls, not in your public.
This is our quiet Russian holiday.
Our President is trying to save it for us!
1. lord-palladore-11045
  
  +3
  
  6 January 2023 02: 34
  
  The news said it was about a truce for 36 hours.
2. paramaribo55 kmt
  
  +1
  
  6 January 2023 08: 42
  
  Now the main holiday for the Russians is the victory over Ukraine. All other holidays are secondary.
3. In passing
  
  +1
  
  6 January 2023 13: 35
  
  Terminology. It was necessary to say the ceasefire regime, the regime of silence. But not a truce!
cooper

+5

6 January 2023 00: 46

Again, the guarantor is strangely weird ...
zuuukoo

+7

6 January 2023 00: 57

Quote: Opozdavshiy
This is our quiet Russian holiday.
Our President is trying to save it for us!

It remains to be understood how a ONE-SIDED ceasefire will help "save the holiday."
I’ll say more, after such a frill, crests will crawl out of their skin, but they will try to throw it on to the maximum and a little more everywhere where possible, including their favorite “we’ll hit Donetsk in squares”.
So it won't be quiet.
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lord-palladore-11045

+3

6 January 2023 01: 23

Congratulations colleagues. Now I learned from the news that the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra has been transferred under the control of Ukrainian schismatics. And our guarantor gave them a truce ... I want to swear.
1. syndicalist
  
  +2
  
  6 January 2023 08: 14
  
  There is nothing personal here, but only business. Most people don't care who will share the "Orthodox" money.
  1. In passing
    
    0
    
    6 January 2023 13: 38
    
    Well, how to say, this issue will also be resolved after the end of demilitarization, denazification and NWO in general. As long as we endure.
Mordvin 3

+1

6 January 2023 03: 35

It would be interesting to look at the map with the annexed territories, and the front line, where are we fighting in Ukraine, and where in Russia?
silver169

+5

6 January 2023 04: 41

The cowardly Kremlin ... continues its treacherous policy! Instead of smashing the Bandera scum, he begins to flirt with the Bandera-fascist regime, hoping that the blatant betrayal of Russia's interests will be credited to him in the West. So many of our boys died, and how many more will die through his fault!
alexey alexeyev_2

+5

6 January 2023 05: 39

Well, how to understand. Orthodox will gather in churches for service, and they will be polished from artillery by them from hamers. Are they specially targeted? After the tragedy in Makiivka, it begs
ivan2022

-3

6 January 2023 07: 25

The President can at least explain what he is doing and why. Although it may not be right.

But the political position of our blessed society over the past 30 years is generally an illustration of Chekhov's story "Ward number 6" ..... And nothing, as it were ...

People whose main political slogan for 30 years is: "And for whom else? ..." - that is, in general, complete nonsense ..... suddenly indicate to their leaders what should or should not be done?
1. lord-palladore-11045
  
  +2
  
  6 January 2023 08: 38
  
  Why are you offending the citizens of Russia? Whose will you be?
  1. paramaribo55 kmt
    
    +1
    
    6 January 2023 10: 21
    
    from Israel, who hates Russia and Russians, but considers himself the chosen one, almost the highest being.
syndicalist

-2

6 January 2023 08: 10

It is clear that this is a gesture of desperation. Khokhols will not agree to any truce while Putin is in power. Zelensky’s office has already said that the extradition of the instigators of the SVO is an indispensable condition.
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Expert_Analyst_Forecaster

-7

6 January 2023 10: 21

What's wrong with the idea of a Christmas truce? I already asked in one place, but no one answered. Minuses instructed.

As I understand it, a certain stratum of the Russian population has formed. Bloodthirsty, uncompromising. "Take no prisoners", "Stop trading with the West", "No truce".
Yes Yes. "We will destroy the world to the ground, and then ..." Then we will think about why we did it.

From their couch, they are absolutely right.
They don't need to exchange our prisoners.
They do not need currency to purchase what is necessary for both the army and the rest of the country's population.
They don't care about the cross they wear.
"Show must go on".
To the front would have them.
1. paramaribo55 kmt
  
  +5
  
  6 January 2023 10: 54
  
  Dear comrade, it’s strange why you don’t understand what’s wrong with the Christmas truce right now .. peace, by definition, is always better than war, but when a fire, strangely enough, sits down at the table and raises glasses for happiness and health, all adequate people will say that extinguishing a fire is the primary task ..
  1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    
    -6
    
    6 January 2023 11: 08
    
    adequate people will say that extinguishing a fire is the primary task ..
    
    This fire has been going on for 11 months now. You call the continuation of hostilities on Christmas Day firefighting?
    
    strange as it is, sits down at the table and raises glasses for happiness and health
    
    What do you think: now it happens that our military sit down at the table and raise their glasses for happiness and health? I think it does. But you decided that you know better how it should be.
    Lying on your couch, you demand to fight without pauses and without any breaks that you don’t need.
    1. paramaribo55 kmt
      
      +1
      
      6 January 2023 11: 30
      
      Dear comrade, lover of holidays, I do not demand, Everyone demands and Everyone is already in ... from these oddities, a step forward, a step to the side and two steps back. You read what people are commenting on "good will gestures", cunning schemes and other oddities. Everyone is outraged, to say the least. What, they are all couch experts, all fools and do not know and do not understand anything? Thank God there is the Internet, where you can take information from our propagandists and from the enemy, and the picture emerges that we are not up to the holidays, no matter how significant they are.
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
        
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        6 January 2023 12: 05
        
        You read what people are commenting on "good will gestures", cunning schemes and other oddities. Everyone is outraged, to say the least. What, they are all couch experts, all fools and do not know and do not understand anything?
        
        What do they know? Understand? And there are few fools?
        We expected one thing, but it turned out quite another. According to the favorite habit of the Russian intelligentsia, they began to look for the guilty. According to the Soviet habit, they began to look for enemies among their own.
        And if they taught history, they would understand that nothing unusual is happening. Always fought like that.
        
        paramaribo55 kmt
        
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        6 January 2023 12: 55
        
        Expert-analyst-vanga, no need to compose, they didn’t always fight like that. This is a special war and the stakes in it, to be Russia or not to be, are practically according to Shakespeare. But the mistake of those who were preparing for this war is that everyone and everything can be bought for money, well, or for a lot of money, i.e. Of course, they took the money and reported that everything was in openwork, the victory was in the pocket, and then the soup with the cat. Who expected what, what does the owls have to do with it. intelligentsia? The same Fedorov, who is NOD, says why our planes do not fly, because the Americans have closed the entire sky over Ukraine with their air defense. The situation is asshole and you need to get out of this situation, and you can celebrate the holidays later. God will forgive if there is a victory in Ukraine
        
        Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
        
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        6 January 2023 13: 03
        
        no need to compose, they didn’t always fight like that
        
        Are there any examples? Or, as usual, there is an opinion, but there are no arguments?
        I can give examples:
        A) the Soviet-Polish war.
        B) Soviet-Finnish war.
        B) WWII
        And before the USSR, there were Russian-Japanese and World War I.
        
        paramaribo55 kmt
        
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        6 January 2023 13: 38
        
        These are bad examples, if we focus on this, then there will not be enough people, especially with modern means of destruction. Sov.-Polish, and Sov.-Finnish are not prepared adventures, with great sacrifices on our part. I’m generally silent about the Second World War, the best died, entire generations of young people were killed, again, due to unpreparedness and many other reasons. The Russian-Japanese war is the incompetence of the command and the heroism of a simple soldier, the result is a shameful defeat, World War 1, again millions of losses and nothing, no results for the country, except for devastation and civil war. Do you propose to take an example from these wars? Comrade dear, do you seriously think that this is how it should be? And an example should be how Grozny took Kazan and Astrakhan and expanded the territory of Russia by more than 2 times, with minimal losses. Let it be an example of how Suvorov and Potemkin annexed the entire northern Black Sea region to Russia, effectively and with a minimum of losses. This is if we say that "they always fought like that." The same Stalin, elegantly and without fanfare, annexed the Baltic States and Western Ukrainians and Belarus. By the way, V.V. Putin ideally annexed Crimea. So dear comrade, there are examples.
        
        Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
        
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        6 January 2023 14: 41
        
        Comrade dear, do you seriously think that this is how it should be?
        
        Have you decided from a sick head to a healthy one?
        
        And an example should be how Grozny took Kazan and Astrakhan and expanded the territory of Russia by more than 2 times, with minimal losses. Let it be an example of how Suvorov and Potemkin annexed the entire northern Black Sea region to Russia, effectively and with a minimum of losses.
        
        Don't make my brain laugh. Provide links to historical documents. You didn't and don't have them.
        With a minimum of losses ... How much is this? How do you define the minimum?
        I gave you examples for which there are a lot of sources. You start fantasizing.
        
        The same Stalin, elegantly and without fanfare, annexed the Baltic States and Western Ukrainians and Belarus. By the way, V.V. Putin ideally annexed Crimea.
        
        It was about wars. And you start talking nonsense. I understand that when there are no arguments, the owl is pulled onto the globe.
        
        paramaribo55 kmt
        
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        6 January 2023 15: 26
        
        When there is nothing to object, your brain starts to laugh.. I understand, this is a defensive reaction of your body. Why on earth should I prove something to you, give links to documents? Do you know how to write and read? Do you know how to use a computer? Here you are to prove to me that this is not so. But it's about something else. You want to convince everyone that fighting is stupid, unprofessional, with a large number of dead and wounded, with total destruction, this is the norm, as it should be. No, my dear human, it shouldn't be like this. War is an art, like politics, and if incompetent people do it, then there will be a big trouble.
        
        Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
        
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        6 January 2023 15: 29
        
        You want to convince everyone that fighting is stupid, unprofessional, with a large number of dead and wounded, with total destruction, this is the norm, as it should be.
        
        Can I quote where I'm trying to convince everyone of this?
        
        paramaribo55 kmt
        
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        6 January 2023 16: 17
        
        "They always fought like that," are these your words, read above, or do you forget what you said after 5 minutes ?. Examples were given: 1) Soviet-Polish (300 thousand Red Army soldiers were destroyed in Polish concentration camps), 2) Soviet-Finnish, (200 thousand Soviet soldiers died only from frostbite) 3) WWII, there is no comment at all, 3 mil. the soldiers were captured in the first months ...... Russian-Japanese. (The commander surrendered Port Arthur, although he was ready for defense, World War 1. (In general, the complete collapse of the country and the loss of territories). Well, your own words and examples from your history, how else to understand you, this is the norm for you.
        
        Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
        
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        6 January 2023 15: 33
        
        Why on earth should I prove something to you, give links to documents? Do you know how to write and read? Do you know how to use a computer? Here you are and prove to me that this is not so
        
        Familiar words. When there is no evidence, they often write like that.
        My examples are easy to check. Because they are quite fresh and easy to find information. And your claims are unverifiable.
Expert_Analyst_Forecaster

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6 January 2023 11: 29

It has already become known on which side there are Orthodox Christians, and on which side they are not. Bandera rejected the truce.
And all-propellers can calm down and cross themselves. The horrors of the truce did not happen.
rotkiv04

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6 January 2023 11: 33

everyone understands and knows everything, but Putin again started his barrel organ and shakes snot on his fist, but on the other hand, what can you expect from a sentimental old man
Roy

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6 January 2023 11: 48

They are already zadolbali their tantrums. Once again, I already hear that Putin leaked everything. How can?
With such military commanders, no TsIPSO is needed. They themselves will be able to panic. We are fighting in Ukraine not to kill as many Ukrainians as possible and not for their territory.
1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
  
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  6 January 2023 11: 57
  
  I have already identified two beliefs of the all-outsider.
  A) Putin, the generals, the rich are doing everything possible to lose the war.
  B) Russia will be saved by someone from outside. First, they waited for China to start a war in Taiwan, then for foreigners who would join our army in tens of thousands, they waited for the victory of the Republicans, the frost would force Europe to stop supplying weapons and money to the former Ukraine, etc. etc.
  They are not even children. These are latent ... uh ... traitors and obvious mentally disabled people.
  1. kot711
    
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    6 January 2023 12: 18
    
    traitors and obvious mentally disabled.
    Calm down, genius. You would have been in the trenches, then you would have appreciated such truces. Arta hits you, and you are ordered not to shoot.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      
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      6 January 2023 12: 31
      
      Arta hits you, and you are ordered not to shoot.
      
      Well, yes, yes. They are also ordered to surrender. Or go on the attack with a bare ass. Warrior ... damn it.
      A truce is proposed. Consent not received. And the issue is closed. No one is forcing our military to die senselessly. Panic is bred here ... hysterics
zuuukoo

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6 January 2023 12: 38

Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
What's wrong with the idea of a Christmas truce?

Great idea. If it is both.
And in this case, we have given an order for a ceasefire along the entire line (this is a quote from Interfax).
They have a demonstrative refusal. And now there are 2 options:
1. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will observe the regime, occasionally snapping, but not first covering, say, the identified groups.
2. The RF Armed Forces will put a bolt on the order of the Supreme.
Which of these options is worse ... I do not know.
1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
  
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  6 January 2023 12: 46
  
  According to Dmitry Medvedev, deputy chairman of the Russian Security Council, Kyiv rejected a gesture of Christian mercy in the form of Moscow's offer to cease fire on Christmas. Refusal of the "main Ukrainian clowns" allowed our military, participating in the special operation in Ukraine, to exhale calmlybecause he delivered them from unnecessary guile. Medvedev wrote about this in his Telegram.
  The deputy chairman of the Security Council noted that it is a pity for the Christians who were deprived of the opportunity to go to church on Christmas.
  
  It was supposed to be both. It did not grow together, but ours offered, but the Bandera people refused. And we can conclude who are Orthodox, and who just wears a cross.
LeftPers

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6 January 2023 12: 51

GlavPop does not understand military topics, why is he climbing, what else ... Orthodox among the fascists of the Ukrainian Reich?
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1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
  
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  6 January 2023 13: 09
  
  Weird. We trust some official media, we do not trust others.
  They started talking about the order, but did someone see this "ORDER (certified, with signatures and seals) on a ceasefire"?
  You write as if you were shown this order and you recognized Putin's signature.
Expert_Analyst_Forecaster

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6 January 2023 13: 34

there is not a word in the presidential document that actions to liberate or defend the same LPR and DPR, which are part of the Russian Federation, should be suspended for the period of January 6-7. There is not a word about this in the statement of the Russian Defense Ministry.
(C)
In passing

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6 January 2023 13: 47

Putin did the right thing. Because we are not them. So they did not agree to any truce for 36 hours. So we are at war.
Eduard Aplombov

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6 January 2023 14: 14

the patriarch proposed, the president supported
now everyone saw, raised their eyelids what and who opposes Russia (those who still doubted)
GDP is not stupider than the local old farts who go into hysterics, drinking tea at the computers
our boys may also need a break. replenishment of bk, regrouping, etc.
Do you need to schedule everything for deep sleep?
how women hysteria and cry
the predictor also crawled out, predicting victory at the end of autumn
well, without staff alarmists, no matter how, right there ..
nikanikolich

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6 January 2023 14: 32

I so want to cut off the head of the traitors of the Russian soul!
Shuev

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6 January 2023 14: 59
"unilaterally reconcile". Strelkov

in the red shield (Shit)

sold his birthright (seniority) for lentil stew (from red lentils)
Vladimir R.

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6 January 2023 16: 02

Maybe he contracted Biden's disease from Biden?
Sancy

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6 January 2023 17: 36

Who wrote this is again undetermined! You don't hide! I don't think you're from Ukraine! Although it looks very similar! On the merits of the issue, I will say, read what the Head of the DPR, Pushilin, said! If you didn't read, then it's bad! And if you read it, then this one, I don’t know how to call it culturally, there was no scribbling!
Adm Hts

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6 January 2023 23: 37
Putin instructed to introduce a ceasefire along the entire LBS in the zone of the NVO

just fabulous... :)
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