Russia regains its strategic initiative: new tactics of General Surovikin


Epigraph: "Now we have no one to talk and negotiate in the West, there is nothing, and there is no need to" (D.A. Medvedev)


The special operation we are currently conducting in Ukraine is starting to resemble the Great Patriotic War more and more, both in terms of timing and consequences. I think all historians who analyze these events in hindsight will agree on this. According to the timing, it is already clear that it will drag on, if not for four years, like the Second World War, but for three years for sure. And according to the consequences, and no one doubts this here, it will lead to a radical breakdown of the entire existing world order, with a shuffling of the powerful of this world, who until now have been sitting on its Olympus; a significant change in borders in Europe; the abandonment of the dollar as a world reserve currency, which will lead to the breakdown of the entire Bretton Woods system (more precisely, the Jamaican currency system, which replaced Bretton Woods in 1976) and a return to the "gold standard". In the end, the events that began on February 24, 2022 will lead to a complete restructuring of the now obsolete system of international relations, the reformatting of the UN, which will affect both the composition and the total number of members of its Security Council. The world will abandon the rules imposed on it by a self-appointed hegemon and return to a more just structure. All this, of course, will drag on for years, but this process was launched precisely on February 24, 2022 at 5 am, when Russian tanks crossed the border near the conditional Ukrainian river.

But all this will, of course, come later, and for a long time we will be chasing the unfinished Banderists in Ukrainian cities and towns, who will avenge the lost war, arranging terrorist attacks and sabotage, and terrifying civilians (the NKVD until 1956 chased through the forests behind the Bandera underground, and the KGB liquidated the last active OUN group only in 1960), and here we must be aware of this. But it will be later, and now, by analogy with the Second World War, the Battle of Kursk awaits us, for which both sides are intensively preparing, which will decide the outcome of the NMD. Whoever wins this spring campaign will win the battle. Hope it will be us. The conditional battle for Moscow took place near Mariupol (and in it itself) in the spring of 2022, and we are observing the conditional Stalingrad near Bakhmut (sorry, near Artemovsk) at the moment. Ahead of us is the Battle of Kursk and another two long years of a five-letter word that cannot be pronounced here.

And now, before that happens, it's time to take stock of the past 10 months of NWO. Colonel Kassad will help us with this. At the end of the summer, Colonel Kassad (aka military analyst Boris Rozhin), especially for the Voenkor Kotenok Z @voenkorKotenok channel, shared (as always briefly and to the point) his vision of the six months of the Special Military Operation of the RF Armed Forces to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine. I kept his analysis for myself in order to later compare his forecasts and assessments with reality. Another 4 months have passed since then, it's time to do it.

Military analysis of Boris Rozhin


I.

In early March, he wrote that the conflict in Ukraine was waiting for the inevitable “Syrianization”. Not everyone agreed with this, and six months after the start of the NWO, this became obvious.

1. Fronts with bastion cities took shape and stabilized.

2. The enemy is increasingly and systematically falling into purely terrorist methods of warfare.

3. The size of the theater of operations exceeds the available forces of both sides, despite all efforts to build up groupings.

4. The supply of foreign weapons plays a significant role in maintaining the intensity of the conflict when it is impossible to completely block the channels of these supplies.

5. The high proportion of the role of foreign mercenaries and special services in organizing the activities of the enemy.

6. Inevitable provocations in the spirit of the White Helmets and playing the WMD card.

7. Complete paralysis of the negotiation process due to the desire of the sponsors of the conflict to achieve their goals at any cost.

8. Attacks in Russian cities, committed by terrorists who make territorial claims to Russia.

II.

1. This is not a direct comparison, Ukraine is Syria at maximum speed. The fighting on its territory will go on for a long time, destroying what is still left of Ukraine. FROM economic point of view, Ukraine, like Syria, is in for a catastrophe. A significant part of its infrastructure will simply be destroyed within the framework of the chosen war format. Systematically, something will be rebuilt only in the territories under the control of the Russian Federation, which Russia considers its own.

2. It can also be guaranteed that the CTO regime will operate in the liberated territories for a long time, and inside the country terrorist attacks by the Nazis will compete with terrorist attacks by the Islamists.

III.

1. For Russia, as well as for the United States, this is a war not only for control of the territory, but also a struggle for the configuration of the future world order, where the survival of Ukraine as a state is not important, as well as the economic survival of Europe, which is not an actor of ongoing changes, but their victim .

2. Just as the Syrian war reshaped the entire Middle East, the war in Ukraine will reshape the existing world order. For the Russian Federation, as well as for the United States, this is not a sprint, but a stayer distance, for which one must be prepared (although this cannot be said for the whole society and states yet), as well as for the continuation of hostilities in the winter, spring and summer of 2023. Let me remind you that Palmyra was taken in March 2016, Aleppo - in December 2016, Deir ez-Zor was released in September 2017. And Idlib has not been taken so far. This is to the frequent question of pace and whining "why is it so slow."

3. As in Syria, in Ukraine we are at war not only with the army of local terrorists. Behind them, as in Syria, stands our main enemy - the United States and its European satellites. Therefore, the conflict turned into a grueling confrontation not only on the streets of Soledar or Marinka, but also in the fields of economic and political battles for the future world order.

4. The task of the Russian Federation is simple and complex at the same time - to resist this confrontation and achieve its goals. For this, considerable efforts will have to be made by the state and society. Slackness and underestimation of the threats from our enemies, who are constantly raising the stakes, must be met with an adequate response. It will no longer be possible to return to the departure station or press the stop valve. Having taken on increased obligations, acting as a historically subject country, the Russian Federation simply has no choice but to move forward towards achieving its goals.

All of the above with tg-channel military commissar Yuri Kotenok.

Analysis of the last four months of SVO. General Armageddon


After 10 months, the CBO can only applaud Colonel Kassad for an adequate analysis and be surprised at his insight. The future, as always, is in the fog, the only thing that can be said for sure is that we will never return to the “factory settings” (this is infa for those who still dream of returning everything back to their former carefree life), CBO will not end quickly, the most optimistic scenario is March 2024 before the presidential elections in the Russian Federation. Based on the outcome of the autumn campaign, which ended in the loss of Kharkiv and part of Kherson regions, it can be stated that the newly appointed commander of the NMD, General Surovikin, having gone beyond the Dnieper, managed to stabilize the front, fencing off the Armed Forces of Ukraine with a natural water barrier. And thereby straighten and shorten the LBS (line of contact) to 815 km, and transfer the released forces to other sectors of the front, in particular to the Donetsk direction, linking the enemy forces available there in positional battles near Avdiivka, Maryinka and Bakhmut. In addition, having imposed on the Armed Forces of Ukraine battles of attrition, Surovikin forced Zaluzhny to spend the reserves released from near Kherson to hold positions near Bakhmut, grinding there 300-500 people a day only "two hundred" (it was not for nothing that Bakhmut was called Verdun on the Dnieper), not allowing thereby use these forces in the Zaporozhye direction (in an attack on Melitopol).

And most importantly, Surovikin managed to regain the strategic initiative by imposing on the enemy battles throughout the LBS where he does not want it, thereby keeping him from advancing in the Zaporozhye direction, which is most promising for him, besides terrifying him with regular strikes on his critical energy infrastructure, forcing them to waste material resources and disrupting internal logistics, preparing forces for a winter offensive (using a partially mobilized reserve for this). At the same time, there is no need to complain that the enemy strikes back at our infrastructure (even in the depths of Russian territory), because in a war it is like in a war. Even the Crimean bridge and the Black Sea Fleet base in Sevastopol are completely legitimate military targets for him, not to mention the airfields of long-range strategic aviation - you just have to be ready for this, and then helplessly wave your arms - how dare he?! Dare, because this is war! What will you answer? Especially for strategic bombers and the Kursk nuclear? The question, as always, hung in the air. We have not yet adequately answered Kyiv for our "strategists", which creates a dangerous precedent for Washington already. The Pentagon is testing our capabilities in this way.

At the same time, his sponsors in the Ukrainian General Staff are whining about the insufficient provision of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzhny recently complained to the British The Economist about what he lacks for the liberation of Crimea.

To get to the borders of Crimea, today we need to overcome the distance of 84 km to Melitopol. By the way, this is enough for us, because Melitopol would give us full fire control of the land corridor, because from Melitopol we can already fire on the Crimean Isthmus, with those HIMARS themselves and the like.

He complained that the most important thing now for Ukraine is to receive and accumulate the necessary amount of equipment and ammunition. According to Zaluzhny, Ukrainian troops, unfortunately, do not yet have the required number of shells for large-scale operations.

With these resources, I can't launch major new missions, although we're currently working on one. She's on her way, but you can't see her yet. We use far fewer shells.

At the same time, he also named quite specific figures, saying that the Armed Forces of Ukraine needed 23 tanks, 300-600 infantry fighting vehicles and 700 howitzers to return to the line on February 500.

Then, I think, it is quite realistic to reach the borders on February 23rd. But I can't do that with two brigades. I get what I get, but less than what I need. It is not yet the time to address Ukrainian soldiers the way Mannerheim addressed Finnish soldiers. We can and must liberate much more territory.

At the same time, the Ukrainian General Staff does not rule out a second attempt at an offensive by the RF Armed Forces in February. For Ukraine, the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine believes, the main thing now is to hold the front line and not give up positions, since it is much more difficult to liberate territories.

Our troops are now all tied up in battles, they are bleeding. They bleed and are pulled out. They bleed and survive solely thanks to the courage, heroism and ability of commanders to keep the situation under control.

- Zaluzhny told the British publication.

According to the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Russia may resume the offensive in February, at best in March, and at worst - in January (everything will depend on weather conditions, the winter was warm - tanks get stuck in the mud). At the same time, the offensive may take place not in the Donbass, but in the direction of Kyiv from Belarus. Also Zaluzhny does not exclude the southern direction. This is the advantage of Surovikin - no one in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine knows where he will move, he, unlike his counterpart, has five or six directions of the main attack at once (and there will also be distracting strikes). At the same time, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is afraid of the mobilization reserve of the RF Armed Forces, according to their calculations, it is about 1,2-1,5 million people.

The Russians are preparing about 200 new soldiers. I have no doubt that they will go to Kyiv again

– shared his fears Zaluzhny.

He is echoed by his subordinate commander of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Colonel-General Alexander Syrsky. In an interview with The Economist, he said that in the current war with Russia, ammunition is being used up at about the same rate as during WWII, and the speed of replenishment is crucial.

Battles are won by the side that delivers shells to the cannons faster.

- quotes the general edition.

The commander of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, just like his boss, is afraid of the mobilization campaign of the Russian Federation. Sufficiently well-trained soldiers are now appearing en masse along all the eastern fronts, some of them coming "from the depths of Russia, including ... from the eastern regions and the Urals." This is worrisome, the general says, but more worrisome is the provision of weapons to Ukraine.

Russians are not idiots. They are not weak. Those who underestimate them are doomed to failure.

- the commander quite rightly considers.

The general also explained that the Russians are changing tactics under the leadership of their new commander, Sergei Surovikin. They are attacking in smaller, well-coordinated foot units, he said: costly in terms of soldiers' lives, but "never was Russia's highest priority." Let's leave the last passage without comment, let's focus on changing the battle tactics - we learn from our mistakes, adopting the best experience of the enemy (below I will show this using the example of Wagner PMC).

When asked by the publication what victory should look like for Ukraine, Syrsky said: “We won when the enemy was destroyed, and we stand on our borders,” but he is not sure that this will happen in the near future. In the near future, he said, Ukraine will conduct "active defense." I’ll add on my own that the latter is only because the curators do not give attack weapons, preferring defense weapons to them. Let it be expensive, let it be high-precision, but still, NATO does not give them defense, neither tanks nor planes. Why, more on this in another text.

Help: Syrsky was born in Russia and graduated from the Moscow Higher Military Command School (the very famous one whose cadets take the oath on Red Square). However, as the publication emphasizes, his own style of command differs sharply from Soviet and Russian hierarchical practice. He preaches the NATO principles of decentralized command and emphasizes the special importance of morale.

PMC "Wagner" tactics: War of attrition (primarily enemy manpower)


Let's leave the Ukrainian generals with their problems and turn to our formidable weapons, which cause legitimate awe in our enemies. We are talking about Wagner PMC, with which on the battlefield there are no people who want to meet in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and hundreds of snouts (the rest are massively “sick” and are trying with all their might to avoid this fate, realizing that after this meeting they will have only one the road to the cemetery).

Ukrainians note that the “Wagnerites” have a special assault tactic, and, apparently, it is adapted to the contingent that is recruited into this “private army”, supervised by businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin close to the President of the Russian Federation (here the Ukrainian side is hinting at prisoners who are massively pouring into in the PMC at the last camp call of Prigozhin).

For the first time, the private military company Wagner was mentioned in the media in the fall of 2015, two years after its creation. In short, the story of Wagner is as follows. In 2013, the Russian PMC Moran Security Group, which had previously specialized in protecting merchant ships from pirates, organized a new company, the Slavic Corps, which recruited 267 employees to protect fields and oil pipelines in Syria (but subsequently the members of the corps took an active part in local civil war). The commander of the PMC was the former commander of the 700th separate special forces unit of the 2nd separate special forces brigade of the GRU of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, retired lieutenant colonel Dmitry Utkin, known under the call sign "Wagner". This call sign later gave the name of the PMC, giving rise to unofficial names - "musicians" and "orchestras". Initially, according to Russian media, the structure was created to work in Syria and African countries, but the events of 2014 in Ukraine dramatically changed these tasks.

As for the structure of the PMC and the tactics of combat used by it, then we can say the following. If at the beginning of the SVO "Wagner" was an infantry assault unit, by now it is already a full-fledged army corps - with its own tanks, artillery, air defense systems and even aviation. Only military pensioners from the ranks of the Aerospace Forces fly on Wagner aircraft, but they fight in such a way that active pilots never dreamed of - the recently shot down crew of the Wagner Su-24 repeated the feat of Nikolai Gastello, you also know everything about the details of the death of Major General Kanamat Botashev (everything three were posthumously nominated for the title of Hero of the Russian Federation, by the way, and the founder of the company, Prigozhin, has also been wearing this title since last year). The number of PMCs has already reached 35-40 thousand people. with an increasing trend, so it can carry out full-scale offensive operations. What the “Wagnerites” are doing now in the Bakhmut area, storming the city and trying to surround it.

At the same time, according to Ukrainian military experts, the tactics of the “Wagnerites” differ from the actions of the regular Russian army and are more dangerous. Now, near Bakhmut, they have switched to night raids - rangers armed with thermal imagers are undertaking night raids (on targets previously reconnoitered from UAVs) on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, where, like wolves in a flock of lambs, they stupidly cut their victims with knives. They operate very quietly and discreetly. This is such a horror for the enemy opposing them, from which his veins run cold. Is it any wonder after that that there are no people who want to get to the Wagner sector of the front in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Here is what Yuri Butusov, editor-in-chief of the Ukrainian Censor, writes about the tactics used by Wagner:

1) The use of round-the-clock aerial reconnaissance, including from drones equipped with thermal imagers.

2) Creation of infantry assault groups for night combat, equipped with night optics and thermal imaging sights, numbering up to 10-20 fighters, with a better level of training and more coordinated.

3) Creation of reinforcement groups of up to 50 militants, who must enter the captured positions and consolidate on them in the event of a successful attack by the assault group.

4) Carrying out preliminary artillery preparation of the attack.

5) Direct fire escort of the attack with the use of automatic mounted grenade launchers pulled up close to the battle formations. The small caliber of the AGS allows the enemy infantry to press close to the gaps. At the same time, the enemy is trying to establish the most close interaction with the infantry.

6) Tactics:

• air surveillance of our positions, control of the attack through drone surveillance;

• artillery raids on positions in order to “soften” the defense by knocking out heavy weapons;

• the use of anti-tank missile systems to destroy our positions, including Kornets with a thermal imaging sight;

• covert rendezvous in the dark of assault groups to the line of attack;

• in order to preserve armored vehicles from destruction and ensure maximum surprise, armored vehicles are not used for direct support of infantry;

• dense shelling of positions from the AGS;

• during the shelling, the assault group approaches our positions and tries to break into the trenches along with the last explosions from the ACS;

• Considerable attention is paid to establishing interaction between assault groups and AGSs for direct fire support of an attack;

• Approach to the captured position of the consolidation group, which immediately burrows heavily into the ground;

• Armored vehicles follow at a distance for fire support from a distance, trying not to expose themselves to our anti-tank missile systems;

• in case of an unsuccessful attack, the Russians instantly cover the positions with their artillery;

• day and night attacks can be in the same direction.

7) The goal of the enemy is to reduce losses and achieve surprise in order to use the probable lack of night air reconnaissance, the lack of night optics and thermal imagers among our fighters. The enemy is trying to reduce the heavy losses of infantry, and prevent the disruption of the advancement of assault groups at the line of concentration.

8) A key element of the Russians are drones, through which the entire cycle of combat control takes place.

9) Armored vehicles and artillery have ceased to be a means of a breakthrough in Russian tactics, as they were in the previous stages of the war. The main burden now falls on the infantry, which must act independently. Therefore, the use of tactics of night operations, although it does not lead to a decrease in Russian losses, makes it possible to achieve results where earlier daytime attacks did not lead to success for a significant time.

10) Round-the-clock infantry attacks by small groups of infantry are becoming an effective means of countering and capturing individual positions where there are problems in organizing defense, reconnaissance, communications, night combat, individual tactical and fire training of our soldiers and units (end of quote).

An important point that our enemies drew attention to is their own training algorithm for those mobilized in PMCs, which is not built on raising the level of training (it is almost impossible to do this with limited training time), but on modernizing the combat control system. It was a revelation for Ukrainians how assault operations are planned in PMCs. In this case, the offensive plan is drawn in a conventional navigation program. The attackers are divided into assault groups, each of which has its own route and task, which are also registered in the navigator. Thus, it is difficult even for unprepared fighters to go astray. The movement of the groups is controlled by drones, and the headquarters of the operation receives all the data online, including the situation at the object of attack. And if necessary, the groups receive commands to stop or continue moving.

Moreover, even after falling under aimed fire, assault groups do not leave without a team, independent withdrawal is allowed only for the wounded. Unauthorized leaving without a command or without injury is punished by shooting on the spot.

Butusov notes.

A PMC advance is usually accompanied by drone-controlled mortar fire. And if the terrain allows you to get closer, then the trenches can be taken even without heavy artillery, from a swoop, using a symbiosis of AGS and mortars. At the same time, Lancet strike drones are also actively used. Butusov notes that Wagner armored vehicles usually move at some distance, supporting the attackers with barrage fire, since they are protected in PMCs, unlike people (Butusov has no questions here - why protect prisoners, especially since retreat in Wagner sometimes not provided). This is how Wagner solves the tasks assigned to him, and that is why there are no people in the Armed Forces of Ukraine who want to fight with him.

I can only add to what has been said on my own behalf that I have already seen something similar in the stormtroopers of the odious Ukrainian special unit “Kraken”, which proved itself by shooting our prisoners, which initially fought on the Kharkov front, and is now transferred to the Donbass in the Bakhmut region. They did not hesitate to post their raids on our positions on the Internet, where they quite professionally, armed with drones, broke into the location of our troops on light armor and partially cut them out on camera, and took the rest like sheep, captured. The hand of British teachers, who had trained this scum thoroughly, was visible throughout. True, these "heroes" worked during the day. PMC "Wagner" only adopted and creatively reworked their experience, and are waiting for them for a personal meeting. Let me remind you that the "Wagnerites" do not take anyone prisoner.

This concludes the review of the state of affairs at the front and the results of 10 months of the NWO. Ahead of us are the most difficult months of these trials (which we ourselves have chosen for ourselves), and God forbid we all survive them (I'm not at all confident for myself, given where I am). Well, let's not talk about sad things. All the best, your Mr. Z.
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  1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 6 January 2023 09: 04
    0
    According to the timing, it is already clear that it will drag on, if not for four years, like the Second World War, but for three years for sure.

    Another NOT forecast?

    And according to the consequences, and no one doubts this here, it will lead to a radical breakdown of the entire existing world order, with a shuffling of the powerful of this world, who until now have been sitting on its Olympus; a significant change in borders in Europe; abandoning the dollar as the world's reserve currency

    The former Ukraine is just the first episode of the war with the West. And to consider that the consequences of this war will turn the whole world upside down is a great exaggeration.
    Victory in this war is a necessary but NOT sufficient condition for a "radical breakdown of the existing world order." If you understand what I wrote)).
    Moreover, in my opinion, after the victory over the former Ukraine, Russia will need several years to recuperate. We will not be up to "breaks" in these years.
    My NOT forecast: the next five years there will be no global changes, if we consider the whole world, and not just Russia and the former Ukraine.
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 6 January 2023 09: 33
      -5
      there can be no victory over Ukraine. Ukraine is not a goal but a tool and consumable. this is a proxy war. Ukraine and Ukrainians will simply end with ANY outcome. hi their economy has passed the point of no return.
      1. go to Offline go to
        go to (ira) 7 January 2023 00: 13
        +2
        as if ours also had not passed the point of no return.-((((((((
  2. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
    Just a cat (Bayun) 6 January 2023 09: 20
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    Wagnerites do not take prisoners? they are already taking it ... for a week now there has been a video with Prigogine about the prisoners. perhaps ostentatious to divert eyes. And then there will be questions about how they took Artemovsk and not a single Movnyuk was captured.
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 6 January 2023 20: 16
      +1
      Not everything is so clear. Some are accepted, others may not be. In 2014-15, the Donbass militia often dealt with prisoners in different ways: if the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then they were captured, and if the Nazis, then they were spent. The other side did the same.
  3. mechanic Offline mechanic
    mechanic (Yuri) 6 January 2023 09: 25
    +7
    The impact of this war on the world order should not be overestimated. Russia has suffered and will suffer greatly, that's for sure, but the United States is not particularly concerned. They do not directly fight, their economy does not suffer.
    In my opinion, they will even win: NATO is expanding, consolidating under the leadership of the United States. The EU will fall even more economically under the States.
    The US had two interfering factors China and Russia.
    Russia has now withdrawn itself, having got involved in the war and actually made hara-kiri for itself (the USSR also withdrew at one time).
    For the United States, there was no better gift than an inter-Slavic war with numerous victims and destruction.
    China left...
    Everything else is propaganda nonsense of jingoistic patriots ....
    1. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
      Vox_Populi (vox populi) 6 January 2023 12: 24
      -2
      Everything else is propaganda nonsense of jingoistic patriots ....

      Yes, that's pretty much how it works!
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 6 January 2023 23: 51
      -3
      Mechanic, has Russia withdrawn itself? How is it antyresna? Maybe the fact that at any moment a Russian piece of iron will fly to Washington? Interslavic war? Are you serious or are you kidding? With the same success, one can call the inter-Slavic war - the war of the Criminal Code within the country with various kinds of criminals. After all, they are also their own * Slavs *. You are kakbe and not cheers a patriot, and not even a patriot. So who are you Dr. Sorge?
    3. go to Offline go to
      go to (ira) 7 January 2023 00: 14
      0
      100% accurate. With NWO, the economy will be very difficult.
    4. syndicalist Offline syndicalist
      syndicalist (Dimon) 7 January 2023 06: 12
      +2
      Thanks to the war in the United States, there is a very good growth in industrial production. The entire military-industrial complex switched to three-shift work. In general - the mother is native. Like 80 years ago
  4. Jstas Offline Jstas
    Jstas (jstas) 6 January 2023 09: 57
    -2
    The former Ukraine is just the first episode of the war with NATO. That's what ALL bloggers, commentators and other paid riff-raff don't say. Including this article. On 24.02.22/XNUMX/XNUMX, the war with NATO began. And until everyone understands this, there will be no victory.
    To begin with, punish all those who fled from the mobilization and the “wezamirs”, such as Pugacheva, Gapkin, and Meladze, who recently joined them /. Double the income tax on the bastards, deprive them of voting rights, deprive them of the right to be elected. In war, as in war.
    1. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 6 January 2023 11: 49
      +1
      Quote: Jstas
      On 24.02.22/XNUMX/XNUMX, the war with NATO began.

      24.02.22/XNUMX/XNUMX The Supreme Commander of the Russian Federation, by his order, began the so-called. NWO.

      He chose the place and time.
    2. Volkonsky Online Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 6 January 2023 13: 53
      +5
      so far we are not at war with NATO, but with Ukraine supported by NATO, this is a proxy war, and with NATO we will only fight tactical nuclear weapons and strategic nuclear weapons if they turn up, and they, knowing this, will never turn up
      1. Constantine N Offline Constantine N
        Constantine N (Constantin N) 6 January 2023 16: 01
        0
        Drones are already flying to specially protected objects. So very soon they can destroy all the starting points of nuclear weapons simultaneously and imperceptibly.
  5. prior Offline prior
    prior (Vlad) 6 January 2023 10: 49
    +4
    Something tells me that this farce called SVO will continue as long as Putin is president.
    And then.....
    But then the real armagedets will begin.
    1. Jstas Offline Jstas
      Jstas (jstas) 6 January 2023 11: 52
      -1
      Something tells me that Amers and Gay Ropa don't want to die. From the word at all.
    2. go to Offline go to
      go to (ira) 7 January 2023 00: 15
      +1
      depending on who comes to power.
      1. syndicalist Offline syndicalist
        syndicalist (Dimon) 7 January 2023 06: 16
        +1
        Irrelevant. It will only affect the location. Armageddon will come either in Ukraine or in Russia
    3. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 7 January 2023 00: 27
      0
      And my prior, something tells me that this booth called Ukraine will continue until our President Putin puts an end to it!
  6. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
    Vox_Populi (vox populi) 6 January 2023 12: 22
    -6
    The epigraph, of course, is epic, but it's not even about him. The author of the article sets out an alternative reality and the same predictions, however, as usual:

    And according to the consequences, and no one doubts this here, it will lead to a radical breakdown of the entire existing world order, with a shuffling of the powerful of this world, who until now have been sitting on its Olympus; a significant change in borders in Europe; the abandonment of the dollar as a world reserve currency, which will lead to the breakdown of the entire Bretton Woods system (more precisely, the Jamaican currency system, which replaced Bretton Woods in 1976) and a return to the "gold standard".

    And of course, praise to Wagner! One can only wonder why, in this case, according to the author, it is necessary to fight for another three years ...
    ps And yes, if so, how will it all end in reality, and not in agitprop?
    1. oao Offline oao
      oao (Chizhov Kirill) 7 January 2023 00: 08
      0
      Yes, it's a good start. Then Rozhin, you can not read further. This expert hasn't guessed anything in a year.
      1. Volkonsky Online Volkonsky
        Volkonsky (Vladimir) 7 January 2023 00: 25
        -5
        and this is written by a person who has been here for 8 days! Hydrometeorological center on the floor above
  7. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 6 January 2023 13: 31
    +9
    About the new world order that the Russian Federation will establish, these are Wishlist. Against the new world order are 1 billion citizens of NATO countries and their satellites, plus their developed economy and army. In the future, a new world order will be established by China together with India. In the Russian Federation, power is the comprador bourgeoisie. Such a government has not won a single war in 30 years. In Russia, the industry is in decline. What is the strategic initiative? The author describes questions of tactics. Strategy implies a goal. Does anyone know the purpose of the NWO in Ukraine? On the basis of what legal document of the Russian Federation is the SVO carried out? The article is interesting, the analysis of events is weak.
    1. Volkonsky Online Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 6 January 2023 13: 50
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      article 51 of the UN Charter - the right of the state to self-defense, but we are losing, because we are holding our people for sheep, not telling them the truth and the ultimate goals of the NWO (demilitarization and denazification are just tasks that a year later have not been completed)
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 6 January 2023 14: 47
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        we lose because they keep their people like sheep, without telling them the truth and the ultimate goals of the NWO

        Why so much childish stupidity? It turns out that there is not enough truth and knowledge of the final goals. Just bring the truth to the people and immediately everything will work out. And just as soldiers and officers lack knowledge of the ultimate goals, this is generally a guard)).

        And about losing... I wouldn't be in a hurry.
        1. Volkonsky Online Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 6 January 2023 18: 20
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          due to the fact that we do not voice our final goals, we are losing our last sympathizers in Ukraine, who no longer believe us (1. Russians do not abandon their own, 2. Russia does not start wars - it ends them, 3. Russia has come forever , 4. about the myth of the invincibility of Russian weapons, I don’t even want to remember), and besides, this leads to misunderstanding already among Russian society - why they should die on the Ukrainian front.
          And all this is a consequence of our mediocre information policy!!!
          1. go to Offline go to
            go to (ira) 7 January 2023 00: 17
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            never. That's where the trouble is. The Ukrainians have a goal, there is hunger, inflation, and they do not grumble, but are waiting for news from the front.
            1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 7 January 2023 01: 16
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              ira, and who are those for Ukrainians who walk around the squares and yell at Maskalyaku at Gilyak? Patriots with Reich banners? and heroes from war criminals during the Second World War? And many are waiting for news from the front in order to prepare Russian tricolors on time. How do you like this version?
          2. Goga Smirnovich Offline Goga Smirnovich
            Goga Smirnovich (Goga Smirnov) 7 January 2023 00: 48
            -1
            Volkonsky (Vladimir) - neither add nor take away!+100!
          3. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 7 January 2023 01: 25
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            Author You wrote an article about one thing, and in your comments, write the devil knows what! What you listed is not faith, it is an axiom! So it always has been and always will be! You cannot talk about Russian society without being an integral part of this society. In Ukraine, our soldiers fight and die for the security of Russia. And every Russian knows this very well. If the situation on the fronts worsens, we will all stand up not to defend our Motherland! Is this difficult or impossible to understand?
            1. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
              Vox_Populi (vox populi) 7 January 2023 12: 37
              +1
              The situation on the fronts will worsen, we will all stand up not to defend our Motherland!

              Oleg Georgievich! So that these words do not look like pretentious hypocrisy, you need to advance to the LBS, because in modern conflicts, if the situation worsens, it will be too late ... winked
              1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 8 January 2023 02: 39
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                The deterioration of the situation on the fronts is familiar to Russia from the day it appeared to this day. All the people rose up and destroyed the enemies. Pathetic hypocrisy? Damn ... Where did you pick up such clever words without knowing where and what to use them for? And yes, if it hadn’t been *late* in different periods of its history, Russia would not have existed at all. I'm just wondering how many members of the forum here do not know not just history in general, but also the history of their own country. No wonder someone said - An uneducated crowd is easier to manage.
          4. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 January 2023 04: 18
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            I agree that those who sympathize with Russia on the territory of the former Ukraine would like more clarity. Yes, and the citizens of Russia and those who are fighting want the same. And I agree that the information policy of our authorities is mediocre.
            But, no matter how cynical it sounds, all this is not very important.
            History shows that the most important thing is how the government organizes the economy, interaction with the outside world and restores order in the army. Judging by the state of the economy in our rear, our authorities are coping with the economy. Interstate policy seems to be without obvious failures.
            The army remains. This is the most difficult question. The army moves from a long state of inactivity to a state of war.

            By the way, about mediocre information policy. The Reporter and the Military Review that I read are not without sin, to put it mildly. It's easy to criticize. But personally, I do not see that the media known to me somehow stand out for the better.
            And what goals these media set for themselves in the NWO is also not clear to me. And the truth is very doubtful.
            Two pluses - a lot of articles on topics of interest to me and a lot of comments. That is, the direction was chosen successfully, but there are many questions for execution.
      2. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
        Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 6 January 2023 20: 23
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        Well, why is there no goal: The liberation of Donbass, denazification and demilitarization were proclaimed from the very beginning. Then Kherson and Zaporozhye were added, and as a result, the Sea of ​​​​Azov is under our complete control, and this is already a lot.
      3. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
        vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 6 January 2023 20: 52
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        Link to Art. 51 of Part 7 of the UN Charter is not correct in this case, since Ukraine is the territory of Russia, captured and torn away by separatists in 1991, with the direct participation of NATO. Since the territory of Ukraine was seized and torn away as a result of a coup d'état in the USSR, and a coup d'état is a criminal offense that has no statute of limitations, then the NVO is on the territory of the Russian Federation and it must be classified as the liberation of the territory of Russia occupied by separatists, the restoration of the territorial integrity of Russia, the reunification of peoples, the inclusion of the economy, population, territory of Ukraine in the sphere of economic activity of Russia.
        The Kremlin did not think that referring to Art. 51 of Part 7 of the UN Charter in relation to Ukraine, the Kremlin recognized the legitimacy of the coup d'état in the USSR in 1991. and rejection of the territory of Ukraine.
        It remains to hold a trial in Ukraine and get a court decision, for example, Basmanny.
        1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 7 January 2023 01: 39
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          Vlad, if you are already past days, then it is simply wrong to talk about any Ukraine and Russia. The Ukrainian SSR was part of the USSR.
      4. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 7 January 2023 01: 36
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        Author, Ukraine has been nazified and militarized for 30 years, but do you want to end demilitarization and denacification in one year? Could you do it?
    2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 6 January 2023 14: 49
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      Does anyone know the purpose of the NWO in Ukraine?

      Yes. I know. But I won't tell you, because it's a secret.
      1. Volkonsky Online Volkonsky
        Volkonsky (Vladimir) 6 January 2023 18: 14
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        came, collected cons ... left ...
        1. The comment was deleted.
    3. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 7 January 2023 00: 31
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      Vlad, it means that at your suggestion, it turns out that our president was pissed in the head and he attacked the peaceful state of Ukraine for no reason at all?
    4. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 7 January 2023 00: 34
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      Vlad only stupid people do not know about the goals of the NWO! So why ask stupid questions?
  8. borisvt Offline borisvt
    borisvt (boris) 6 January 2023 13: 45
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    I positively assess the next work of Mr. Zeta, the details about the famous orchestra players are especially curious. Perhaps the first of his articles that I saw, which I looked at more carefully. True, from the middle it was already clear to whose pen it belongs))
    It would be better to divide it into two, more rounded and accurate in meaning, but the author knows better.
  9. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 6 January 2023 14: 50
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    PMC "Wagner" only adopted and creatively reworked their experience, and are waiting for them for a personal meeting. Let me remind you that the "Wagnerites" do not take anyone prisoner

    what kind of people are being taken prisoner. Recently, Prigogine treated them to tangerines.
    1. Volkonsky Online Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 6 January 2023 18: 21
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      what is their future fate, do you know?
  10. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 6 January 2023 15: 02
    +2
    Quote: Volkonsky
    because they keep their people like sheep, not telling them the truth and the ultimate goals of the SVO (demilitarization and denazification are just tasks that, a year later, have not been completed)

    I think Vladimir also because they know something that we don’t know and we only guess and it’s what they know that keeps them in fear and he doesn’t allow SURELY to voice goals. but, somewhere along the way, we are still very lame.
    1. Volkonsky Online Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 6 January 2023 18: 30
      +1
      why did the GKChP lose? for the same reason - there was no confidence in their actions, they were jittery. Janek lost power for the same reason in 2014, while Luka survived because the man
      The Kremlin lacks impudence and self-confidence;
      everything is much simpler - if you do not know the plans of the Kremlin, choose the worst and simplest one - it will be true. No strategy - one solid tactic

      Strategy without tactics is the slowest path to victory. Tactics without strategy is just hustle before defeat.

      Sun Tzu
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 7 January 2023 00: 57
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        The author, and you or the General Staff of the Russian Federation determine the strategy and tactics? Not... you, huh? So why should it be your way with strategy and tactics, and even at the suggestion of Sun Tzu? Tactics - to lure as many forces as possible into the positions prepared by Surovitin and to knock out the maximum manpower and equipment in defense, it is easier, more economically efficient with a minimum loss of their soldiers who will then have to solve strategic tasks in the offensive.
        Is this tactic and strategy more understandable?
        1. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
          Vox_Populi (vox populi) 7 January 2023 12: 43
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          Tactics - to lure as many forces as possible into the positions prepared by Surovitin and to knock out the maximum manpower and equipment in defense, it is easier, more economically efficient with a minimum loss of their soldiers who will then have to solve strategic tasks in the offensive.
          Is this tactic and strategy more understandable?

          No, it is not understandable, since it is not supported by facts and is a replication in the gray zone of propaganda of a (non) new explanation of problems during the implementation of the JEE. In reality, both sides suffer, albeit unequal, but commensurate losses in manpower and equipment ...
  11. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 6 January 2023 15: 13
    +6
    Russia has been at war for almost a year. Since June, all along the front line, Russian troops have been sitting in trenches and not stepping forward, allowing NATO fire systems to use themselves as "guinea pigs." I can still understand when Serdyukov, Shoigu were appointed Minister of Defense in peacetime .... But now there is a war. We need real combat generals in their field. Here is the chief of the general staff V. Gerasimov. The press writes an outstanding theoretician of the military art of the introduction of war. And you can be curious - Well, how did his theories help SVO? ... The liberation of some village is now equated and compared with the Battle of Stalingrad or Kursk.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 7 January 2023 01: 02
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      Dust, what military educational institution did you graduate from? Well, not a military academy for sure. Yes, and the school of sergeants, too, most likely did not graduate. Well, you are not a military man and you yourself confirm this. So why make yourself look like a fool in military affairs?
  12. Vasya_33 Offline Vasya_33
    Vasya_33 6 January 2023 20: 20
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    Does anyone know the purpose of the NWO in Ukraine?

    Yes. I know. But I won't tell you, because it's a secret.

    Here is a comment from a previous post:

    Let's talk to the end! The declared task of the NWO is denazification, but in fact it is ensuring the security of Russia.
    And lastly (I'm not a pilot and I'm not afraid of the word), if you don't mind, I could put your article in Newsweek.
    Yours faithfully,
    Eugene
  13. Vasya_33 Offline Vasya_33
    Vasya_33 6 January 2023 20: 36
    0
    Good evening, comrades.
    I have been reading Volkonsky for a long time (and not only on TopCore) - a very interesting author. but I have not read this article, I read your comments. I like the author's disputes with the steelmaker and the expert_analyst. I remember, I remember how the latter predicted the February events and where he works.
    but I'm not talking about that. can you tell me about ,, goals ,,? I write for a very long time - the screen is small, but something constantly happens with authorization. I often read articles, and I have to insert comments every six months and under a different nickname ...
    1. Volkonsky Online Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 6 January 2023 21: 34
      -1
      where does an analyst work? is it at the factory? military ... in Irkutsk there are such (aviation)
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 January 2023 04: 31
        -1
        February predicted. He did not write anything about his work. Actually, I don't say anything about myself. Except perhaps for such "information" that I am a retired sergeant general.
  14. Vasya_33 Offline Vasya_33
    Vasya_33 6 January 2023 21: 42
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    in the Kremlin. he wrote himself in January, February. and in the last article he hinted
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 January 2023 04: 32
      -1
      Damn, Vasya, Vasya ... well, you are as simple as Vasya))). This is the Internet. If I write that I discuss the course of the NWO with Putin in the evenings, will you believe it too?
  15. Vasya_33 Offline Vasya_33
    Vasya_33 6 January 2023 21: 46
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    not in January... after the operation, the unthinkable. On February 7.02 or February 9.02, he wrote about the recognition of the LDNR, and later: they say he was mistaken with the date for 2 days.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 January 2023 04: 38
      -1
      And I predicted the recognition and the beginning of the war accurately. And even guessed the dates. Mister Z, will not let you lie. But this was precisely a prediction, and not a consequence of the availability of information from the Kremlin.
  16. Nelton Offline Nelton
    Nelton (Oleg) 6 January 2023 22: 38
    +1
    By the time it is already clear that it will be delayed

    In order for it to be delayed in terms, first of all, the economy of the Russian Federation must survive, both in the medium term (these are the same ~ 3 years), and in the long term (if suddenly, contrary to all forecasts, America / Europe does not collapse again).
    In the short term, the Russian economy has already survived.

    And here, for good, a detailed analysis of the Russian economy, the state at the end of 2021, what happened in 2022 and cautious forecasts ...
  17. Vasya_33 Offline Vasya_33
    Vasya_33 6 January 2023 23: 03
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    In order for it to be delayed in time, the economy of the Russian Federation must first of all survive

    The economy stands on "Three Elephants" - hydroelectric power plants, thermal power plants, nuclear power plants. Elephants stand on turtles - People.
    ... while the excavator is working (mining ore) - it will stand ...
    1. go to Offline go to
      go to (ira) 7 January 2023 00: 20
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      let's hope.
  18. Goga Smirnovich Offline Goga Smirnovich
    Goga Smirnovich (Goga Smirnov) 7 January 2023 00: 02
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    Local battles for Marinka or Bakhmut - this became a "strategic turning point"? Guys, what are you raving about? Absolutely incomprehensible fuss there WITHOUT any real strategic need.
    At first, when Shamanov said that the war could drag on for 5-10 years, at first I thought he clearly "floated", but now I see that there is something in this. But such an indistinct command with very controversial and in time (the main thing) and out of necessity (it makes sense with one of the components of any action) and now strikes at the energy system of Ukraine (already restored to a large extent) are strange, and at the same time, neither the Ukrainian Air Force has yet been destroyed, nor the air defense .
    Moreover, a war without a strong economy, etc., is completely impossible for a long time with a positive result. But I don’t understand how you can fight on the one hand, and on the other hand, trade with your enemy and also pay him for the transit of his energy resources again to his other opponent And to the accounts of his other opponent, with the approval of the ex-government of the Russian Federation, hundreds of billions of money from his country, having already lost a lot of gold reserves earlier?! What kind of victory can we talk about then?
    Is it possible to call the capture of some village in three houses a strategic victory and on this announce the end and complete victory in the so-called NWO.
  19. Sergei Fonov Offline Sergei Fonov
    Sergei Fonov (sergey fonov) 7 January 2023 00: 18
    +1
    About analogies with the Second World War and the expectation of the Battle of Kursk. I must say right away that a clash with Ukraine was inevitable, but it could and should have started differently. How did com. Rokossovsky's central front. At Headquarters, his proposal was not enthusiastic, everyone, including Stalin, was set on the offensive, but Rokossovsky rebuilt the front and created a defense in depth of 120-170 km on a front of 306 km, he was alone in his decision when Stalin called him in the morning, and he joyfully answered that the Germans had begun to advance, Stalin asked in bewilderment why he was happy, to which Rokossovsky replied, now victory will be ours. How our troops are preparing for their Battle of Kursk we don't need to know about it, we just want to believe that our commanders are no worse, and as the shelling of Donetsk continues, there are problems with our faith in their ability to end it.
  20. Goga Smirnovich Offline Goga Smirnovich
    Goga Smirnovich (Goga Smirnov) 7 January 2023 00: 52
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    Quote from ira
    never. That's where the trouble is. The Ukrainians have a goal, there is hunger, inflation, and they do not grumble, but are waiting for news from the front.

    where do you get this nonsense about Ukraine from?! What hunger? equipped with generators and they don’t care about turning off the light, which is already rarely turned off). And inflation in general is about the same as in the EU. The dollar even rolled back from UAH 45 to 40.60, although it jumped at the beginning of the war.
  21. Watching Offline Watching
    Watching (Alex) 7 January 2023 02: 09
    +2
    Very informative and interesting about Wagner. So such a battle tactic already existed and was adopted from the Anglo-Saxons? Probably from SAS? Why is this not taught in Russian academies?
  22. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 January 2023 05: 32
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    I will explain the goals of the NWO, as I understand them.

    At the initial stage:
    A) Prevent NATO from using the territory of the former Ukraine for military threats to Russia.
    B) Terminate the foul Minsk agreements, resolve the issue with the LDNR by joining the republics to Russia.

    It was assumed that it would be possible to create a neutral state in relation to Russia on the rest of the territory of the former Ukraine.

    The politicians miscalculated, and the military operation was built out of hope and the desire to do everything quickly and with little bloodshed.

    At the current stage:
    A) Destroy the former Ukraine as an enemy state and a source of military danger to Russia.
    B) Embed in the economy and political system of Russia - LDNR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions of the former Ukraine.

    I think that initially the task of denazification was one of the main ones.
    But reality has shown that first you need to win the war, and then solve ideological issues.
    1. Vasya_33 Offline Vasya_33
      Vasya_33 7 January 2023 08: 12
      0
      quite right .... I would also add C and D and E, etc. and about the dollar system, the author at the beginning of the article ... -too. but you don’t believe in the account - I’m already an adult to believe everything. So I remembered yours: we work here in the Kremlin day and night ...
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 January 2023 10: 27
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        we are here in the Kremlin working day and night

        Yes. And so it was. Someone wrote that I am somewhere in the Tokyo area, judging by the time zone. And I answered. I thought that it would be clear to everyone that if you work in the Kremlin day and night, there will be no time to write comments NOT in the most famous media in the world.
  23. Pavel Vladimirovich 7 January 2023 10: 00
    +1
    It should be so, because this is not "gentlemen's boxing", but war, NBO.
    The one who is stronger in spirit wins.
    The one who is weak morally has already lost.
    The fighters of PMC "Wagner" are well motivated. This very motivation helps them to carry out orders as accurately as possible. That's the way it should be.
  24. Igor Viktorovich Berdin 7 January 2023 13: 46
    +2
    Or maybe it’s easier to go and fuck around Galicia-Poland about creating a radioactive ditch between us and the enemies ... Anyway, we can’t baptize children with them ... I personally feel sorry for our men, but the enemies don’t care at all. Let them disappear altogether. ..
  25. Vasya_33 Offline Vasya_33
    Vasya_33 7 January 2023 15: 45
    +1
    It was assumed that it would be possible to create a neutral state in relation to Russia on the rest of the territory of the former Ukraine.

    The politicians miscalculated, and the military operation was built out of hope and the desire to do everything quickly and with little bloodshed.

    who knows, who knows... but what about Novorossiya, Little Russia?

    maybe, maybe ... the politicians miscalculated, and the military did not know that there were 250 army in / in Ukraine? and that half by the end of the 21st had been transferred to the Donbass. and what did NATO do in / on (only the lazy did not write: why does Ukraine need NATO-NATO already in / in Ukraine) and what did they import under the guise of all kinds of exercises? Poroshenko also brought javelins and stingers.

    Russian equipment was in the early days of the battles ... - packed Grads, tanks with mounted rollers for the passage of minefields.
    makes me think!

    ... with little blood.
    maybe that's why I didn't see ambulances in these columns.

    result: everything is going according to plan (GDP)

    and this time, the cannonade outside the window ... that's the truce.
  26. sacha1960 Offline sacha1960
    sacha1960 (Sasha Anton) 10 January 2023 12: 42
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    I understand that at the beginning of the war, Russia did not want to hire foreign mercenaries, but if the enemy does it widely, it seems to me very logical and necessary to do the same.

    And, of course, it would be extremely beneficial to destroy the strategic Dnieper bridges (as was done in Kherson) in order to isolate Ukraine from east to west.
  27. savage3000 Offline savage3000
    savage3000 (Savage) 10 January 2023 20: 13
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    abandoning the dollar as the world's reserve currency

    refusers, you have been talking about this and dreaming about it for 40 years! And nothing has changed. oh those dreamers-refuseniks.
  28. Jstas Offline Jstas
    Jstas (jstas) 11 January 2023 17: 40
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    Gentlemen Nelton (Oleg), Volkonsky (Vladimir) and other doubters...

    Jstas: January 6, 2023 09:57 Former Ukraine is just the first episode of the war with NATO.
    /cm. before and above/

    The events in Ukraine are not a clash between Moscow and Kyiv, this is a military confrontation between NATO, and above all the United States and England, with Russia... We are not at war with Ukraine, because by definition we cannot have hatred for ordinary Ukrainians...

    http://новости-россии.ru-an.info/
    January 11, 2023, belatedly Patrushev made this message, but better late than never.