Why the People's Militia of Donbass fights better than a professional army


As expected, 2023 is off to a rocky start. Literally in the first minute of the New Year, the Armed Forces of Ukraine launched a missile attack from the American MLRS HIMARS at the point of temporary deployment of the Russian Armed Forces in Makeevka. As a result, 89 Russian servicemen have already died, mostly from among the mobilized, and even more have been injured. Why did this become possible?


Horrors of war


The possible reasons for the tragedy are now cited as the unfortunate location of the mobilized, which was chosen as the vocational school building, located near the line of contact, as well as the work of Ukrainian gunners and the careless attitude of personnel to the use of communications at the front. The final answers to these questions can only be given by the investigation, however, even without it, it is clear that the root of the problem lies elsewhere.

Apparently, even now, in the eleventh month of the NWO, not everyone has yet understood that an all-out war of annihilation is being waged against Russia, and there are no more rules. Not only society, but even the Russian army has not yet completely rebuilt itself for the new realities, which is confirmed by the New Year's tragedy in Makeevka. The presence of problems in the RF Armed Forces was personally acknowledged by President Putin, setting as an example the People's Militia of the LDNR:

I am simply amazed by the courage of these people, including those who are fighting for their homeland at the forefront. These are not professional soldiers, two corps are formed from local residents, they fight better than professionals. They fight very courageously, very bravely and effectively.

Recognition of the fact that the NM LDNR sometimes fight more effectively than the Russian regular army may seem surprising, since it has always been believed that the RF Armed Forces can enter Ukraine at any moment and “heap” the Armed Forces of Ukraine with one hand, rather than some blue-footed miners. The reality turned out to be somewhat different.

In fact, it was the People's Militia of Donbass that turned out to be morally more prepared for what was to happen after the start of a large-scale war, since it was its fighters who had been on the front line for all eight years and were watching the transformations of the Ukrainian army in real time, without being able to do anything. influence in the regime of the Minsk agreements. However, attempts to change something and convey information about the real state of affairs were nevertheless made, and they went from below.

peacetime army


In 2019, an analytical review entitled “How Russia is losing the war in Donbass” was prepared, compiled by the Novorossiya Aid Coordination Center (KCPN) with the active participation of the well-known LPR militiaman Andrey Morozov, aka “Fighting Cat Murz”. All the problems that were indicated in this report, in 2022, alas, manifested themselves in full. In the same place, in the report of the KCPN, a possible scenario of a large-scale offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass, which was supposed to end in the defeat of the LPR and DPR, was described literally by hours and minutes. Only the beginning of the NWO on February 24, 2022 could prevent the inevitable defeat of the People's Militia, and here's why.

We will not fully retell the content, and its full text can be found for careful review in the search through keywords. Of greatest interest is the history of the transformation of the people's militia, which was created in 2014 in the Donbass, into the People's Militia of the LDNR, and related problems. The authors identify several key stages of its development. Their main conclusion is that the militia of the semi-partisan type, even as of 2014, had no chance against the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Here is one quote from the report:

It was in this state - small lightly armed units of unpredictable combat capability, with meager means of communication, with single night vision devices and thermal imagers, with extremely small artillery, leading exhausting continuous defensive battles with superior enemy forces, that the militia became an "anvil" for the "hammer" " North wind." By this time, the actual number of some militia units had decreased, in relation to the peak, June 2014, to 30-40%, mainly due to desertion.

For the most part, the personnel were extremely poor at even light small arms, the operation of heavy weapons, armored vehicles and tanks was severely limited by the presence of crews who had previously had the practice of army service with just such weapons /technique or service on armored vehicles in general. In most units there were no full-fledged headquarters, there were no maps, the management of the service of the troops was for the most part so inadequate that from 50 to (at times, at peak, in separate units) 70 percent of the loss of the militia in manpower accounted for "friendly fire".

All this is worth remembering by our numerous "guards", who from their sofas blame Strelkov for leaving Slavyansk to them. On the contrary, Igor Ivanovich was able to withdraw the most combat-ready units of the Donetsk militia from the Slavic pocket, which was almost slammed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and the few detachments of the “Ghost” and Luhansk Cossacks managed to escape from the encirclement in Lisichansk.

After the conclusion of the Minsk agreements, under which it was supposed to transfer the DPR and LPR to Ukraine in a certain “special status”, the People’s Militia began to be built from scattered militia units as a peacetime army capable of supporting the implementation of agreements with Ukraine. The advantages of this decision include the centralization of the supply and management of NM, which actually began to be led by Russian military advisers. The fighters began to receive a salary of 15000 rubles for an ordinary soldier, which was a lot for the warring Donbass.

The first stage formation of the People's Militia - this is from October 2014 to January 2015. During this period, after the signing of the first Minsk agreements, the most motivated and ideological volunteers began to leave the Donbass, various adventurers and outright bandits were also squeezed out. In their place began to come "fifteen-thousanders", attracted by the cash content. Relatives and friends of the command staff were appointed to profitable rear positions.

The second stage - this is the period from January to February 2015, the Debaltsevo operation. Based on overly optimistic "paper" data on the combat effectiveness of the People's Militia, Russian military advisers planned an operation to "cut off" Debaltseve, which threatened the DPR. And again the quote:

When planning, it was completely ignored that the enemy managed to fortify himself on the occupied lines in September-January, partially restore losses in military equipment and artillery, and also mobilize a qualitatively different contingent into the ranks of his armed forces - 30-40-year-old men instead of 18-20 summer young conscripts who massively surrendered in the summer of 2014. The formation of the corps in reality was completed only "on paper". In fact, even the formal strength of the units in fact differed from the nominal due to the "dead souls". With the beginning of the operation, this difference sharply and simultaneously increased due to the "stayed out", refused to fight and deserted almost immediately upon receipt of combat orders.

As indicated in the report of the KCPN, having suffered serious losses in the course of such planning of the operation, military advisers were forced to seek help from the "north wind", as well as to hastily recruit reinforcements.

The third stage - this is the period from 2015 to 2016, when the formation of the NM LDNR was finally completed. Unfortunately, at the same time, a supply system took shape, in which much of what was needed at the front did not get there for various reasons. The main work to improve the combat capability of the People's Militia took place "on paper". Big claims were made to the professional qualities of some of the military advisers sent there, who were sent there to sit out their "disgrace" in Russia. Again, a quote from the report:

At the same time, "on paper" all the necessary exercises were carried out, "on paper" all the equipment was in good order, "on paper" the units were completed, and in general, all the activities of the headquarters moved more into the area of ​​\u4b\u2016b"A2018 Format Wars". In reality, the incompetence of a significant part of the advisers, as well as the established and rooted system of theft, led to the fact that in XNUMX-XNUMX personnel issues in the people's militia corps reached, paradoxically, even more acute than two years before, at the start of hostilities. actions.

If on the other side of the front the enemy methodically trained his people, restored equipment, made every possible effort to mobilize economics for military needs, then in the Republics everything was exactly the opposite. And as a result, on opposite sides of the heap of fake papers, according to which “everything is regular”, two “worlds” isolated from each other were formed in their final form - the world of trenches and the world of rear headquarters.

The fourth stage - the period from 2016 to 2019, when the said report was prepared. It is characterized by a general decrease in the combat effectiveness of the People's Militia due to the outflow of professional personnel to the well-known PMCs fighting in Syria. Personnel policy, in general, and the supply of the People's Militia in this period caused sharp criticism.

A pleasant exception to the general rule are the 14th armored personnel carrier of the NM of the LPR "Prizrak", reorganized from the Mechanized Brigade "Ghost" of the Luhansk People's Militia, as well as the 9th separate regiment of the Marine Corps of the NM of the DPR. Being at the forefront, these units really prepared to fight and established effective interaction with volunteer organizations, which are still actively helping to solve supply problems.

Thanks to factors such as the constant threat from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, personal motivation and supply interaction with volunteers, some units of the NM LDNR managed to achieve a level of combat capability at the level, or even on average, higher than the professional Russian army, which was noted by the Supreme Commander himself. Now the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the official part of which since January 1, 2023, has become the People's Militia of Donbass, will also have to pass this path at an accelerated pace.
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  1. Alternatives Offline Alternatives
    Alternatives (Alexander) 4 January 2023 13: 37
    -5
    Because the NM DNR is fighting for their homes.

    And what is Putin's army for? For grandmothers? What are their goals there?

    We programmers have the phrase "without a clear technical specification, the result of XZ." So it is with Putin's army. No one explains the purpose and meaning of its existence in Ukraine, and accordingly they do not fight)
    No one can understand anything, no one explains anything, and Putin has finally lost touch with reality, he showed that he disdains his army and his people and sits in a bunker without sticking his nose out.

    With such input data, it is strange that Putin's army generally holds some kind of defense and has not crumbled into a bunch of unrelated units
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 4 January 2023 18: 19
      +2
      Arestovich is that you?
      1. ksan Offline ksan
        ksan (Eugene) 5 January 2023 16: 03
        0
        No, this is one of the "screwed up patriots" for whom Peskov stood up.
    2. Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich 4 January 2023 19: 12
      -3
      And where are you yourself? You forge grandmas, you eat sweetly, Or you have already moved across the cordon. Mobilize such programmers and a bunch of lawyers in addition and send them to the front, so that you inspire soldiers with your example.
      1. Alternatives Offline Alternatives
        Alternatives (Alexander) 4 January 2023 19: 25
        -6
        I live in Russia as I used to live. And what does "mobilize" mean? Putin himself attacked a neighboring country. You cannot mobilize the population to attack a neighboring country, this is nonsense)

        Mobilization is a critical state of the state, to REFLECT the threat, when the full-time army cannot cope, and as a result, the entire state goes into martial law, war is declared, all resources are mobilized and all payments are suspended, loans, banks, housing and communal services are all suspended and the economy goes on a war footing . All the forces of the state rush to the survival of this state - that's what mobilization is. And on the last page of my military ID it says: "mobilization during the war and wartime."

        Do we have any of this? Are we at war and wartime? No. Nothing has been announced. And it will not) Because during the war we will not pay any loans and the banks will simply collapse, and then the country's economy will collapse. They just took some kind of "mobilization" out of thin air and started running around with it. This is not mobilization. This is another fake and imitation
    3. Watching Offline Watching
      Watching (Alex) 4 January 2023 21: 34
      +3
      /Alternative/ What is this "Putin's army"? And in which bunker is Putin sitting? Do you watch dill teve?
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    4. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 5 January 2023 01: 36
      0
      An alternative when we enter Kyiv will you write what you need or where?
      1. Alternatives Offline Alternatives
        Alternatives (Alexander) 5 January 2023 13: 37
        0
        Grain deals, gas deals, ammonia deals and numerous kids of all those in power abroad WILL NOT ALLOW you to enter any Kyiv) This is clear as daylight, I advise you to read less propaganda)
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  2. calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich (Dmitriy) 4 January 2023 14: 40
    +1
    In theory, a commission is needed to exchange experience and introduce its well-established results into incoming formations at the level of job descriptions.
    1. Alternatives Offline Alternatives
      Alternatives (Alexander) 4 January 2023 14: 50
      +5
      In theory, we need a COMPLETE personnel replacement of the entire leadership of Russia with normal people's politicians) And then something might work out) And not when the country is run by people whose children in the west stir up businesses and own real estate)
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 4 January 2023 15: 12
        -1
        "Medusa" and "Rain" to help you
      2. calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich (Dmitriy) 4 January 2023 15: 18
        +3
        Yeah. To the foundation, and then ... They passed. Let's cut our head off and grow a new one. And what will we think at this time? What on .. to think - you need to shake!
        1. Alternatives Offline Alternatives
          Alternatives (Alexander) 4 January 2023 18: 35
          0
          we need a COMPETENT REPLACEMENT OF PEOPLE IN POWER, and not to demolish everything to the ground, as you imagine.

          And for this it is necessary to raise awareness among the people, otherwise our people are generally silent.
          1. calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich (Dmitriy) 5 January 2023 12: 46
            0
            raise awareness among the people

            is to promote that? What Svidomo offer to promote?
      3. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
        ivan2022 (ivan2022) 4 January 2023 17: 33
        -2
        Quote from Alternative
        In theory, we need a COMPLETE personnel replacement of the entire leadership of Russia with normal people's politicians) And then something might work out) And not when the country is run by people whose children in the west stir up businesses and own real estate)

        And specifically, which of the "normal people's politicians" can you point out? And why are they not in power if they are correct?

        It seems to me that our enemies differ from us only in that they are more radical.

        We are talking about "wrong" leaders, and our enemies - that we should replace the people, who are not able to nominate anyone normal, with those who are normal themselves and therefore can nominate normal leaders from their midst. ...

        So I believe that our enemies are just the most dangerous radicals ..... You can’t do it, what are they doing?
        1. Alternatives Offline Alternatives
          Alternatives (Alexander) 4 January 2023 18: 32
          -1
          normal people's leaders will appear when the people can DEFEND THEM. And in our country, the people in the country have been silent for 23 years and are afraid to express themselves.

          Anyone who spoke the truth in our country was either shut up or imprisoned. With the complete passivity of the people.
          1. UAZ 452 Offline UAZ 452
            UAZ 452 (UAZ 452) 4 January 2023 21: 21
            +2
            In our country, pro-government politicians differ from opposition ones only in that the former are at the trough, while the latter have been pushed aside, to their displeasure.
          2. Sergey3939 Offline Sergey3939
            Sergey3939 (Sergei) 5 January 2023 10: 13
            0
            And what is your truth? Destroy the Russian Federation, to the applause of the collective Fuse? Thank you, your truth was eaten in the Yeltsin era! (((
          3. calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich (Dmitriy) 5 January 2023 12: 52
            0
            normal people's leaders will appear when the people can DEFEND THEM

            We have parliamentary immunity in our country. Its meaning is precisely in the PROTECTION of the leaders chosen by the people. For some reason, "telling the truth" is in no hurry to acquire this status. M.b. because, apart from how to speak, they can’t do anything?
            1. Alternatives Offline Alternatives
              Alternatives (Alexander) 5 January 2023 16: 25
              0
              Oh really? And I would argue. Any honest leader, if he emerges right now, they will simply be removed immediately. They will imprison, kill, it doesn't matter, they will get rid of him. Because the people are not able to show strength at all and protect at least someone. That is why Putin's power is so strengthened in the country.
              1. calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich (Dmitriy) 5 January 2023 17: 42
                0
                Who appoints "honest" leaders? And how many deputies were "removed"?
                The problem is that many see the disease, but only a few are able to treat it. To do this, you need to be able to work in a team, have professional skills. As a rule, "honest leaders" is also a profession, but it is not adapted to solving real problems.
                "Putin's power" - who do you think? Oligarchs, People's Front, Leaders of Russia? Do you even know about the last two institutions?
                Or have you been enlightened only about the "bloody regime" that kills the opposition?
  3. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 4 January 2023 15: 24
    +2
    Thanks to factors such as the constant threat from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, personal motivation and interaction with volunteers in supplying, some units of the NM LDNR managed to achieve a level of combat capability at the level, or even on average, higher than the professional Russian army, which was noted by the Supreme Commander himself.

    They knew and know what they fought and are fighting for, and we are for hucksters who do not allow us to bomb their real estate? Minsk agreements, which, as it turns out, our leader was divorced. Well done musicians and LDNR are fighting like seasoned animals, there are a lot of such but at least motivation, since even I, in civilian life, have not understood what Russia’s plans have been for 11 months. Although there are plans, Rostec recently sold an armored vehicle repair plant for scrap without building a single one.
  4. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 4 January 2023 17: 52
    +1
    What nonsense.
    Before Z, the media promised that only the LDNR police would be enough to throw the APU into the Black Sea. Like, in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, complete collapse, drunkenness, drugs, the remnants of Soviet technology are rusting and falling apart ...

    In real life, 10 months have passed, according to the media, the police are knocking out the Armed Forces of Ukraine from some nearby villages, the cities are still under artillery fire.

    Again, according to interviews, the media and the statements of officials, they were raked out in the LDNR so that "there is no one to work in the mines", and our soldiers fed the police with rations, since even humanitarian aid from Russia was taken away by officials ... (or for a small share ... )

    "fights better than a professional army" ??? "Russian Spring" is dispersed. Of the names in the media, mostly only the names of the leading officials of the EDRA flashed ....
  5. Pilot Offline Pilot
    Pilot (Pilot) 4 January 2023 18: 36
    -1
    BB is spinning like a frying pan. He pinched money on the military-industrial complex, I thought they would again invite foreign summits, hug.
  6. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 4 January 2023 19: 34
    0
    Apparently, even now, in the eleventh month of NWO, not everyone has understood

    Well, you need to start with Putin, who has not yet started

    In fact, it was the People's Militia of Donbass that turned out to be morally more prepared

    Those who are in the trenches yes. And the rest? We have "half of Donbass" working. If people understood what awaited and what would happen, why didn't they prepare the population for war? Roughly, from 3 million people, there should be 60-80 thousand people under arms. But in reality, 20-30 thousand people! So it turns out that morally, not everyone turned out to be ready, including the authorities of Donbass.

    At the same time, all the necessary exercises were carried out “on paper”,

    That's why Strelkov was removed. He would not allow "cutting the budget".

    Now this path is to be traversed

    There such a "loot" is spinning, it will not work quickly.
  7. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 4 January 2023 21: 32
    0
    Who has a goal, he fights better, this is the answer to

    Why the People's Militia of Donbass fights better than a professional army

    The people's militia of Donbass protects their land, their home, wife, children, parents, relatives, the graves of their ancestors.
  8. syndicalist Offline syndicalist
    syndicalist (Dimon) 4 January 2023 21: 55
    +2
    even now, at the eleventh month of the NWO, not everyone has yet understood that a total war of annihilation is being waged against Russia,

    That is, Putin started the NWO, in order to get a total war and the destruction of Russia?
  9. guest Offline guest
    guest 4 January 2023 22: 59
    +1
    Why the People's Militia of Donbass fights better than a professional army

    They have been fighting for 9 years, and during this time experience comes.
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  11. DeadPahom Offline DeadPahom
    DeadPahom (Eugene) 4 January 2023 23: 58
    0
    Putin has never said anywhere that NM is better than the Russian army. Such a comparison would even be strange. NM doesn't have any major successes in SVO that they can record to their credit. The course of the operation is completely determined by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. The lack of media coverage of the actions should not be misleading. I do not want to belittle the merits of NM, many really fight selflessly. Just the guys solve local tactical problems.
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  13. In passing Offline In passing
    In passing (Galina Rožkova) 5 January 2023 01: 54
    +1
    Don't make me laugh. Crimea went to Russia because he really wanted to. Both the common people and the elite. Maybe because they saw what it smelled like to them. Donbass was gray and motley. The elite was against it. For why does Akhmetov need some Moscow guys? The Russian elite "spring" was the most terrible threat on the model of 1917, it was successfully strangled. On the remnants of inspiration, the "north wind" did what it could, until it was slowed down in front of Akhmetov's Mariupol assets. Everything. So that the Donbass does not die completely, they supported it, and nothing more. Moreover, they tried to shove them back into Ukraine under the Minsk agreements. It seems that Ukraine is not in the EU and not in NATO. You can calm down. Bye . But the Americans do! The fuss with gas and sanctions has gone, well, yes, they continue to "tear the economy." Too bad, but there were still smart people in Russia, somehow preparing for a collision. Somehow, because half the reserve is there, half the reserve is here. And hence the "specialty" of this war. And all her oddities. And goodwill gestures with regroupings. Because Russia does not fight for life or death. And he fights for assets. Pipes, export, business, grain, ammonia. And all this is multiplied by the blatant incompetence of the headquarters, both military and not. And the guys in the trenches are dying for real, fighting for real. And that's not all. Something like that. And why Putin does not say that the war is real, I do not know. Maybe just because everything is gray and colorful in Russia. And it's time.
  14. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 5 January 2023 04: 36
    -1
    Well, tse vzhe..vaasche. Marzhetsky outdid himself. Why are they better .... Because 11 armed men surrendered obediently to 3 vuks. An example of Makiivka .. I screwed up the warring army .. It's time to introduce censorship ...
  15. Rainy Offline Rainy
    Rainy 5 January 2023 04: 44
    +1
    Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
    An alternative when we enter Kyiv will you write what you need or where?

    Let's go in?
    Do I understand you correctly that you are writing from the front line and are going to personally enter Kyiv in the forefront?
  16. Rainy Offline Rainy
    Rainy 5 January 2023 04: 47
    0
    Quote: alexey alexeyev_2
    Time to censor...

    Yes, you, my friend, are a pest.
    Instead of highlighting the problems, you offer to hush them up.
    Only the problems will not disappear from this, but will only get worse.
    1. Sergey3939 Offline Sergey3939
      Sergey3939 (Sergei) 5 January 2023 10: 21
      0
      One can understand when specific problems are raised, even if the authorities of the Russian Federation are not pleasant, and when they openly call for the destruction of the state, in various ways and insulting the warring army, for this, Yes!
      And, anyone can talk from the couch, blah blah blah! (((
  17. Rainy Offline Rainy
    Rainy 5 January 2023 04: 53
    -1
    Quote: syndicalist
    even now, at the eleventh month of the NWO, not everyone has yet understood that a total war of annihilation is being waged against Russia,

    That is, Putin started the NWO, in order to get a total war and the destruction of Russia?

    In general, I think that they still didn’t understand anything at the top ... And there are more and more sensations that Crimea was handed over to Russia without a fight, not because they could not or did not want to fight, but on purpose and by order in order to lure the Russian Federation into a trap ...
  18. rish Offline rish
    rish (Rish) 5 January 2023 09: 04
    -1
    Many served in the army and saw perfectly well that she was always useless - a madhouse. Now, just as many, for some reason, something else, they are surprised ...
  19. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 5 January 2023 09: 45
    -2
    This does not need to be explained. It is a pity that they do not yet have more powerful weapons that destroy the enemy in large areas. The RA has it, but the Kremlin does not allow it to be used, protecting the enemy from unnecessary sacrifices.
  20. isv000 Offline isv000
    isv000 5 January 2023 16: 12
    0
    Why the People's Militia of Donbass fights better than a professional army

    Fight for 8 years for your homes, look at the blood of loved ones and all the stupidity of such a question will become clear ...
  21. RED_ICE Offline RED_ICE
    RED_ICE (Sergei) 5 January 2023 17: 29
    0
    Because the locals have been fighting for 9 years
  22. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
    ivan2022 (ivan2022) 5 January 2023 21: 10
    0
    There is some conspiracy theory:

    Almost all the events of our "recent history" - both small and large -

    starting from the creation of political economy seminars under the auspices of the KGB. USSR for Chubais and his associates in the early 80s

    and ending with the last statement on the Christmas ceasefire, logically fit into one general scheme.

    There is one exception to the general rule: the appearance of the DPR and LDNR. Nobody expected this. I had to spend money and some time to absorb, settle processes in the local elite and adapt .....
  23. Adm Hts Offline Adm Hts
    Adm Hts (AdmHts) 6 January 2023 23: 47
    0
    Why the People's Militia of Donbass fights better than a professional army

    because there are pros, with extensive experience, many since 2014 ...
    because they are motivated...
    and in the "professional army" there are parquet generals, and those who "fought" only with the baramaleys, and not with the regular army - all the exercises that have been in the last few years are against terrorists - i.e. prepared the police, not the army operations ...
    professional only in terms of loot payment, and not in professional abilities ...
    It's not about motivation at all...
    she doesn't exist at all...
    well, except for those who volunteer or for money ...
  24. Opozdavshiy Offline Opozdavshiy
    Opozdavshiy (Sergei) 8 January 2023 14: 46
    0
    Opinion stated.
    Where are the facts that "the people's militia fights better than the professional army"?
    For some reason it seems to me that the balance of successes and failures is the same everywhere. War is!
    The second "In reality, the incompetence of a significant part of the advisers, as well as the established and rooted system of theft, led to this ...".
    The incompetence of advisers" is a claim against the RF Ministry of Defense. And the "established and rooted system of theft" is a claim against whom? Can you be more specific?
    And in general, it is completely not clear why and what this article is about?
    Dividing and playing off the belligerents at the front is, in my opinion, a war crime, not much more disgusting than outright treason.
  25. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
    Alexbf109 (Alexey) 9 January 2023 12: 51
    0
    The problem is thieves and "swindlers"! As long as they don’t imprison for this, and hang, shoot, and turn the courts on TV 24 to 7, instead of bullshit from Nightingale and stupid "experts" like "Madura", NOTHING WILL CHANGE!