Russia should help Ukraine end the civil war in its favor

In this post, we will continue reasoning on the topic of how Russia can quickly and with the least damage end the victorious armed conflict in Ukraine. The fact that it is time to change approaches to conducting a special operation has become clear for quite some time, but in what direction can and should this be done?

The root of our numerous problems in the course of the NWO lies in a complete misunderstanding of the essence of the processes taking place in Ukraine.

Ukrainian civil

The fact is that a civil war has been going on in Ukraine since 2014. It began exactly at the moment when the Molotov cocktails flew into the Berkut, and the point of no return was the monstrous in its cruelty massacre of pro-Russian activists in the Odessa House of Trade Unions on May 2, 2014. Everything, after that, the masks were finally dropped, and the Ukrainian Nazis, who came to power through a coup d'état, embarked on a program of complete de-Russification of Ukraine, starting from the South-East of the country. What they prepared for the Russians on the territory of Nezalezhnaya fits the definition of both genocide and ethnocide.

Genocide (from Greek γένος - clan, tribe and Latin caedo - kill) - a form of mass violence, which the UN defines as actions committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, any national, ethnic, racial or religious group as such .


Ethnocide (from Greek ἔθνος - people and Latin caedo - I kill) - policy destruction of national identity, self-consciousness of the people. Ethnocide can be carried out both through the policy of assimilation, and in the process of the formation of new nations through the destruction or change in the self-consciousness of the old (or part of them).

Peoples who have become victims of ethnocide usually lose their historical memory or a significant part of it (see mankurts), in some cases also their self-name, language, culture, religion, and assimilate or occupy a subordinate, oppressed position in relation to those who subjected them to ethnocide.

What has been happening for eight years in the Donbass is a real genocide, and in the territory controlled by the Kyiv regime with the persecution of the Russian language, culture, religion, monuments, historical names, and so on, is ethnocide.

A direct consequence of the Maidan was the Russian special operation to return Crimea and Sevastopol in March 2014, as well as the declaration of independence of the DPR and LPR following popular referendums, which did not receive recognition from the Kremlin until February 2022. It was at this moment, when Kyiv decided to conduct the so-called anti-terrorist operation in the Donbass, that the hot stage of the civil war in Ukraine began.

Then its main subjects took shape – the Nazi regime in Kyiv, the “Western partners” standing behind it, who for many years skillfully tied the hands of the Kremlin with the Minsk agreements, the unrecognized people’s republics of Donbass and Russia standing behind them as a guarantor of the implementation of the Minsk agreements. What is happening in Ukraine fully met all four criteria of a civil war: the parties to the conflict possessed part of the national territory, the rebel civil authorities had de facto power over the population in a certain territory, the rebels had some recognition as a belligerent, and the government was “obliged to resort to regular military force against insurgents with a military organization." In terms of duration, the Ukrainian civil war belonged to a long one, lasting more than 5 years.

Why are we talking about this in the past tense?

Because the direct intervention of Russia in this conflict has changed a lot, and fundamentally. On February 21, 2022, President Putin finally recognized the independence of the DPR and LPR, which became de jure two new sovereign states. In order to help the people of Donbass, as well as the denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine, the Kremlin launched a special military operation on February 24, 2022. In fact, there was a military intervention, which, however, did not go beyond the format of a civil war. If anything, here is the generally accepted definition:

Intervention (Latin interventio - intervention) - military, political, informational or economic interference by one or more states in the internal affairs of another state that violates its sovereignty.

Let us repeat that for civil wars, external intervention is quite common, albeit not welcomed by international law. However, in the fall of 2022, a fundamental turn of events took place. Following the results of popular referendums in the DPR, LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, these four former Ukrainian regions became part of the Russian Federation. Top government officials in Moscow constantly emphasize that this is now “ours”, and everything else is Ukrainian, which must somehow be denazified and demilitarized. In other words, the subjects of the civil war in Ukraine from the Russian side have legally disappeared, and now the war / NVO is going on directly between Russia and Ukraine. The Zelensky regime is actively promoting its version of the "Great Patriotic War".

Feel the difference? And now imagine what it is like for an average citizen of Ukraine to read militant calls to liquidate its statehood and forbid him all manifestations of “Ukrainianism”. Should we be surprised at the fierce resistance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard and the disloyalty of the bulk of the population towards foreign troops, which, by definition, are Russian?

A natural question arises - how exactly is our military-political leadership going to carry out the task of demilitarizing and denazifying Ukraine? If it is quite possible to deal with the military component, having strained, then how to denazify the civilian population? According to the German model? So denazification was in many ways a profanity, which came back to haunt us now, after a couple of generations. And who exactly will carry it out, banning manifestations of “Ukrainianism” and expelling irreconcilable people from the country? Our "occupation" authorities? Seriously? In reality, this can only get worse, since this scenario is guaranteed to lead to an endless sabotage war of the Ukrainian special services and the growth of a “national liberation movement” supported and financed from abroad.

To the delight of the Anglo-Saxons, we should not fight to the last Ukrainian and the penultimate Russian. We need other solutions.


We have gone into all this in such detail to explain why Russia will simply have to change its approach to conducting NWO. As part of a special operation, which would be properly translated into a counter-terrorist format, it is possible to liberate the territories of Donbass and the Sea of ​​Azov, which were accepted into the Russian Federation following the results of the September referendums. For the rest of Ukraine, a different approach is needed.

It is fundamentally important for the Ukrainian people to transfer the format of the “Great Patriotic War”, which is being pressed by the Zelensky regime, back into the civil war, which it is. For this, a new pro-Russian subject of this civil war must appear, which disappeared after the annexation of the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions to the Russian Federation. As we already voiced earlier, it will be necessary to liberate the border Kharkiv and Sumy and proclaim a new federal Ukraine on the territory of the Slobozhanshchina, which will be recognized as the legal successor of the Domaidan, and the Zelensky regime in Kyiv must be denied recognition.

In other words, instead of trying to negotiate something with the incapable Kyiv regime, we need to create our own, pro-Russian, on the Left Bank. After the liberation of Donbass, on the basis of the backbone of the People's Militia, it is necessary to create our Ukrainian Volunteer Army, which will become the tip of the spear, subsequently directed at Kyiv and Lvov. This is what we are about they said back February 23, 2022! If one of the decision makers had listened, the CBO could have gone according to a completely different scenario. But they decided to wave the saber to the delight of the overly exaggerated "experts-analysts-predictors" who, with pathos, promised the capitulation of the Kyiv regime in November.

For a real demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, Russia needs to create its own project of a post-war country, forming for it from pro-Russian Ukrainians both administrative and law enforcement agencies, which will gradually take control of all the new liberated territories. And it is this new pro-Russian regime that will have to bring the Ukrainian Nazis and their collaborators to justice. Do not even doubt that people from the NM LDNR or refugees from Izyum, Balakleya and Kupyansk of the Kharkov region will better than any Russian officials cope with the real denazification of the former Square. And it will be more correct than to establish some kind of frank occupation regime.

The issue of belonging to Odessa, Nikolaev or Kharkov can later be resolved through holding referendums on self-determination, in which each region of the former Independent will decide for itself where it legally wants to enter. Post-war Ukraine will have to be federalized, become a Russian protectorate and an integral part of the Union State of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus.
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  1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
    Just a cat (Bayun) 27 December 2022 12: 04
    Russia must put an end to the Mazepin tribe. Otherwise, every century the underachievers will raise their heads.
    1. borisvt Offline borisvt
      borisvt (boris) 27 December 2022 12: 39
      With many, the most zealous already, NWO will soon turn a year old. But with the whole tribe, I suspect, it’s impossible to cope, and it’s not necessary))
      Marzhetsky is right, as usual, that clarity is needed and something concrete has to be outlined for the purposes. It is clear that goal number 1 is the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But further until darkness ((
      1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
        Just a cat (Bayun) 27 December 2022 12: 53
        everything described by Marzhetsky was already there ... and Khmelnitsky was correct ... and Mazepa at first tried for the good of Russia. And Bandera in the Communist Party corrected. The result is always the same - start from the beginning.
    2. Olgerd Tees Offline Olgerd Tees
      Olgerd Tees (Olgerd Tees) 27 December 2022 14: 48
      Quote: Just Cat
      Russia must put an end to the Mazepin tribe. Otherwise, every century the underachievers will raise their heads.

      Fountain of logic!!! And with all sorts of Chud, Turkic, Mongol and Han tribes too ... must, Mlyn. Wherever you look, Nazis and militarism are everywhere. I feel uncomfortable in Siberia
  2. Vlad Sirs Offline Vlad Sirs
    Vlad Sirs (Sirius NVL) 27 December 2022 12: 33
    The thoughts are correct, but as it is typical for the Russian Federation, it is belated. The attitude towards the RF Armed Forces has already been formed, and even in the spring, the majority of Ukrainian citizens are sure that the Russian Federation is waging a war to destroy Ukraine as a state and Ukrainian identity as such. The scenario of the Russian Federation joining the civil war in Ukraine was taken for granted (newspeak)) in 2014. It was reasonable to expect the creation of a second government of Ukraine in Donetsk, a second army of Ukraine, and other government agencies. But the Kremlin, out of stupidity, began its usual behind-the-scenes games and, as expected, was overwhelmed by more cunning players. Today, there are no conditions, no personnel, no corresponding moods for the promotion of a scenario for civil confrontation. The Kremlin lost this war even before it began. We will see how Moscow will get out of this, there are no good scenarios for the Russian Federation today.
  3. Avarron Offline Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) 27 December 2022 12: 33
    For complete denazification and demilitarization, Ukraine must again become part of Russia, and then local Nazis can be packaged in the same way as Russian Nazis are now packaged. If at least some national entity remains on the territory of Ukraine, it will inevitably remain a hotbed of nationalism and corruption, a field of activity for various foreign special services, primarily the CIA and MI6, which will not stop carrying out their subversive activities there with attacks on the territory of Russia.
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  4. paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 27 December 2022 13: 14
    "Ukrainianism" in the form in which we all observed this phenomenon, the last 8-10 years, this is "fascism", but with its own Slavic specifics. And to urge to be softer, not to call for the liquidation of the state of Ukraine and the ban on the ideology "Ukraine over the mustache", can only be a person who, as they say, "both ours and yours." What is the author afraid of, that there will be many saboteurs in the new territories, of course there will be. To destroy them, SMERSH must be recreated, with unlimited powers. But even worse than obvious saboteurs is to form some kind of parallel Ukraine, in which the power will be with the "correct" Ukrainians. The loyalty of such figures will be fictitious, such is the essence of these people and nothing has changed over the past + - 300 years. As a result ... the Russian Federation has a lot of work ahead, for years and years, but do not be afraid of this, the road will be mastered by the walking one. But what is definitely not necessary is to rush from one extreme to another, no one respects such people.
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 27 December 2022 13: 42
      By the way, about saboteurs. In a liberated Ukraine, an occupation regime should exist for quite a long time. In particularly difficult areas with a curfew and a passport regime. In the 50s in Western Ukraine, if an adult man in the family was in the UPA or the family communicated with the UPA, then such a family was subject to deportation to Siberia. For saboteurs, everything was even simpler: prison or execution, and the family to Siberia. And the partisan movement came to naught.
      1. paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 27 December 2022 14: 02
        Terrorism can only be defeated by terror. There is no saboteur and those who help him, there is no sabotage. No other methods work.
        1. Olgerd Tees Offline Olgerd Tees
          Olgerd Tees (Olgerd Tees) 27 December 2022 14: 57
          Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq ... But still the "sofa" and "armchair" people who want to "repeat" will not shut up. And the option “the cat abandoned the kittens, let ... etc.) is, of course, for stupid cats, not for “advanced primates.” Which “value No. 1” is to be closer to the opinions of “alpha individuals” in the herd
  5. Oleg V. Offline Oleg V.
    Oleg V. (Oleg Vladimirovich) 27 December 2022 13: 30
    ... and the point of no return was the monstrous in its brutality massacre of pro-Russian activists in the Odessa House of Trade Unions on May 2, 2014.

    And why then did the Russian Federation recognize the election of Poroshenko?
  6. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 27 December 2022 13: 50
    Regarding this publication, one involuntarily recalls:

    It was smooth on paper, but they forgot about the ravines, and walk along them.

    (L.N. Tolstoy)

    I love our plans in abundance.

    (V.V. Mayakovsky)

    The Ukrainian Maidan was not accidentally called: "Euromaidan". And the Russian Federation does not have an economic base to oppose it!
    You should start with yourself!
  7. Olgerd Tees Offline Olgerd Tees
    Olgerd Tees (Olgerd Tees) 27 December 2022 14: 14
    The declared "goals of the NWO" are well known, but for some reason many people lose sight of such a "nuance": it is a "package" where each item is interconnected. So much so that without one of them, all the others simply lose their real meaning. That is, it's either all or nothing.
    Christmas tales that doing this "everything" is simply "vital", and whoever is against it must either admit that all this squabbling and their alleged "opp position" can and must make another hundred attempts, or you are unpatriots, liberals, extremists , pro-Stalin scoops (underline as appropriate), and a place for you in a prison, in your foreign countries or in the trenches.
    Somehow it all starts to remind ... well, here, who cares: like Trotsky with his "permanent ...", the loser Nika-2 with his "help to the Slav brothers", if only it sounded "for all the good against everything bad."
    And in the current situation, stopizzot attempts continue, because this is a prerequisite for the process of "cutting sturgeons".... Further options: ordinary people), you'll have to hide it ... well, or ... ((; "1) "safsam friends-and" will explain that you were bred like rabbits, so now nothing again ((
  8. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 27 December 2022 16: 14
    Something strange is happening.
    We all know that the source of problems with Ukraine is the United States.
    The Kyiv regime literally "hangs" on them. Disappear this source of resources, strength and hope - Kyiv regime will die. Literally. This is also clear to everyone.
    Country is not. The country, on the contrary, will be liberated.
    Why neither in this, nor in other articles, about the solution of this main problem - not a word, not a half-word. Is this taboo?
    But without this it is impossible to do:

    Russia should help Ukraine end the civil war in its favor

    If the US is the root of all problems and the solution to all issues?
    Then, after forcing them to retreat, it will be possible to successfully carry out the NVO, denazification, end the civil war, etc., etc. In the meantime, this is just an Anglo-Saxon meat grinder for grinding our people and equipment.
    In the end - to destroy Russia
  9. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 27 December 2022 16: 24
    Reminds me of stories about the Civil War. To my left they are green, to my right they are red, outside the window the winter is terrible. I broke the window and into the corn. Then on a horse and into an armored train along a stone road. Now it's scary to think. There are enemies around. Everything flies around, you don’t know who is yours, who is not yours, but it seems that they are not strangers, they grab your hands and help you empty your pockets so that the gold does not rattle. Then quietly, the sun rises and right in the eyes, woke up. But the pockets are still empty and I'm in bed, under a duvet, my pants are not mine, the bed is not mine, the hut is not mine. Written not by my brain. Here are the bastards, they drilled through the head, they launched the cockroaches.
    1. borisvt Offline borisvt
      borisvt (boris) 27 December 2022 16: 36
      and someone else's head, not mine for sure. So I think, whose head is this and who are these bastards?
  10. calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich (Dmitriy) 27 December 2022 16: 45
    it will be necessary to liberate the border Kharkiv and Sumy and to proclaim a new federal Ukraine on the territory of the Sloboda region

    - and avoid the temptation to join them to the Russian Federation.
    There is also an intermediate option - the formation of the UNR as part of a federation, but only Russian, with all national rights to language, culture, etc.
  11. isofat Offline isofat
    isofat (isofat) 27 December 2022 16: 54
    Let's call a spade a spade, Ukraine was destroyed from the inside, while trying to seize power in the country, in an unconstitutional way. The US plan was only partially successful. And the States do not need Ukraine in this form, without Crimea, Donbass ...

    The Maidan people screwed up, and today the artist Zelensky, on instructions from the United States, legalizes American expenses for the war. For obvious reasons, the President of the United States cannot spend money on war; this will not please ordinary Americans. Another thing is democracy and the defense of sovereignty at the request of the "defenders" of the country itself. In a word, performance. yes
  12. Vlad Petrov Offline Vlad Petrov
    Vlad Petrov (Vladimir) 27 December 2022 17: 13
    The state of the Russian Empire with the territory of almost present-day Ukraine successfully existed from the reunification of Ukraine with Russia in 1654 to 1917. 263 years without any problems. Undoubtedly, if Ukraine is left independent, then anti-Russia will definitely come out of it and the war will start again. Therefore, it is necessary to achieve the unconditional surrender of Ukraine and hold referendums in the regions of Ukraine on joining Russia, whichever one does not agree should be under the protectorate of the Russian Federation,
    1. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
      ivan2022 (ivan2022) 27 December 2022 19: 14
      Quote: Vlad Petrov
      The state of the Russian Empire with the territory of almost present-day Ukraine successfully existed from the reunification of Ukraine with Russia in 1654 to 1917. 263 years without any problems. Undoubtedly, if Ukraine is left independent, then it will definitely work out

      The Russian Empire was created in 1721. No one here is interested in how you feel about this.

      The fact that Ukraine became a colony of the United States is the result of the idiocy of the current generation of infidels. Who only know how to teach everyone from the couch.

      And at one time they blew both their working party and a large country and gave it into the hands of thieves and betrayed the military oath in 1991 ...... A generation on which there is nowhere to put stigma ...
      1. sap Offline sap
        sap (Alex) 29 December 2022 09: 16
        no place to put labels...

        Maybe you should just take a good bath and the stigma problems will go away.
    2. Vlad Sirs Offline Vlad Sirs
      Vlad Sirs (Sirius NVL) 28 December 2022 06: 51
      What does it mean to achieve capitulation, how and why should Kyiv voluntarily capitulate. You can't force it either. For the Russian Federation, after reaching the border of the DPR, only the option of a deaf strategic defense remains, and it is not a fact that this defense will stand.
  13. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 27 December 2022 17: 51
    Yes, you can mix everything together - intervention, civil war, liberation, annexation, promises, people from the NM LDNR, refugees from the Kharkov region and everything else ....

    And people will use and discuss it over and over again ...
  14. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 27 December 2022 19: 15
    How exactly is our military-political leadership going to carry out the task of demilitarizing and denazifying Ukraine?

    I "drank" all day today, with retirees I know. The barbecue is amazing. Well, not about that. Just yesterday, in the Artyomovsky-Bakhmutsky direction, 2500 people were killed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Our losses are six times less. Here is your answer - how?
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  15. In passing Offline In passing
    In passing (Galina Rožkova) 27 December 2022 19: 36
    Need to win back first. And everything. You can not quickly, but to block the borders. A couple of months of military regime, a couple of months of paramilitary regime. Six months civil temporary administration. Then the elections. Then a referendum, also not quickly, first to establish life. Need SMERSH. And it doesn't have to be the same everywhere. Establish a peaceful life, people no longer know what it is. And yes, no Ukraine-not-Russia. Identity, folklore, language, and even where it is really needed. And from the first day - information, otherwise they will wear pots. Some will have to sit, some far and long. Yes, well done Anglo-Saxons, rummaged notably. And Russia clapped its ears. Begged. So, now the warriors are the main ones. For the victory of Russian weapons!
    1. Vlad Sirs Offline Vlad Sirs
      Vlad Sirs (Sirius NVL) 28 December 2022 07: 02
      Madam, how and with what are you going to win it back?) You cannot move a year of artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Donetsk.
      1. In passing Offline In passing
        In passing (Galina Rožkova) 28 December 2022 20: 03
        You must Fedya, you must. Tell me, my Ukrainian friend, what are you fighting for? The whole world needs you as a source of labor force, as a place for their bases (already exists), as a place for pumping out profits, and they will share it with Firtash, Akhmetov and someone else, but not with you. Nobody is interested in the language, Ukrainian identity. But Yaytsenyukh lives happily ever after in Florida, Zelya is already a billionaire, a bunch of officers and officials stupidly make money. For you and your car service (or where you work), for your family, nothing would have changed with the advent of Russia. Do not expect freebies from Europe, I know this very well.
  16. Pro100 Offline Pro100
    Pro100 (Vladimir Babaev) 27 December 2022 20: 24
    In Soviet times, in controversial issues of geopolitics, there was such a practice of dividing states into northern and southern (Korea, Vietnam), western and eastern (Germany), and even now there are examples in a number of African countries. Maybe that makes sense.
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  18. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 28 December 2022 09: 19
    By the way, on VO 2 days ago there was an article about the unprofitability of mines in the LPR.
    The bottom line is that the authorities raked in all the miners from state-owned mines in the NWO, they became unprofitable, and ran to Putin to ask: let's privatize, well, come on ...

    This is to the topic: Civil war or not.
    Civil war could be in the 14th. But the authorities were frightened, and quickly strangled the Russian spring. And now everything is in plain sight in the LDNR: poverty (the inhabitants went to work in Ukraine and transported Coal, fuel, metal, and agricultural products there, according to the articles of the VO), the power of the earth and bureaucracy, no public administration, the Moscow oligarchy as the owner of enterprises, and shoveling population according to agendas ("For example, today about three people work at one of the mines, where more than three hundred should work.")

    It is possible to call Caliber from Belarus in Kyiv a civil war, but who will believe it?
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 29 December 2022 13: 29
      Quote: Sergey Latyshev
      The bottom line is that the authorities raked in all the miners in the NWO ...

      ... and by steelworkers do you have information? laughing
  19. Jstas Offline Jstas
    Jstas (jstas) 28 December 2022 15: 20
    There were worse times, but there were no meaner ones,
    He unleashed a war with Russia, not Hitler, but a Jew ...
    He sold the country to the Catholics, shove the swag into his purse,
    Offended children and wife.
    From vile clowns there are animals ...
    Jackal, hyena and Jew!
    Some troops went to Kyiv, others moved to Moscow,
    And there, and there ... caught. Crowd and one by one
    They were all sent to the Dnieper, both in the evening and in the morning.
    And the whole kahal was baptized in the Dnieper, well, how is Gerasim there - Mumu.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 29 December 2022 13: 41
      It is necessary to allocate a place for the Jews and let them sort out among themselves who wants what - to build communism, usury or colored love.
      How did the Sahara desert, who knows? laughing