American political scientist Mike Whitney: US will go to war against Russia

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The United States will go to war against Russia. The corresponding decision has probably already been made. This was stated by American political scientist Mike Whitney. He shared his arguments in support of his position with The Unz Review portal.


Mike Whitney's article, in which he reflects on the prospects for a direct military clash between Russia and the United States, is, frankly, very pessimistic. In particular, he claims that the President of Ukraine crossed the Atlantic not to make a speech before the US Congress. The real purpose of his trip was to stimulate the general public to continue to support Kyiv in the conflict with Russia.

According to Mike Whitney, this is just PR, an attempt to garner support for a conflict that will soon involve young Americans, both men and women, who will be asked to die so that the wealthy elites can maintain their power over the world.

Whitney believes that Washington has no plan to prolong the conflict. But there is a great desire and determination to defeat Russia at any cost.

In practical terms, this means that the United States must create an incident that will serve as an excuse for escalation. This incident could be related to Zelenskiy's unexpected trip to Washington, or perhaps the explosion of a nuclear device somewhere in Ukraine.

It is possible that Biden will soon propose sending a US-led “coalition of volunteers” consisting of the US, Polish and Romanian military forces to Ukraine to create the ground-based equivalent of a “no-fly zone”.

At the same time, Mike Whitney hopes that the Biden administration will still retreat from the abyss.

But I think it's unlikely

– sums up the political scientist.
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  1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 25 December 2022 13: 47
    +8
    Unfortunately, Putin is still trailing in the wake of these plans, refusing to influence the United States and force them to retreat with ALL the means we have. Only this can still stop the war and force the States to return everything to its place.
    When the war with NATO begins, it will be too late to threaten the States.
    War subjects everyone to its own logic
    1. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
      Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 25 December 2022 14: 22
      -1
      Putin is not able to defeat Ukraine, but he must fight the United States and the entire NATO bloc ... why fight something ??? spirit-strength mosquito and helmets of the late 40s ??? our Artyomovsk has been stormed for almost half a year, what kind of war with the USA can we talk about ???
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 25 December 2022 14: 42
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        our Artyomovsk has been stormed for almost half a year, what kind of war with the USA can we talk about ???

        Here you are right, but also about the war with NATO then. Our current course of submissive slide towards war with NATO is suicide.

        Putin is not able to defeat Ukraine, but he must fight the United States and the entire NATO bloc ... why fight something ???

        Here you are wrong. You don't need to fight at all. In 1962 the USSR without war forced the Americans to retreat and remove their "decapitation" missiles from Turkey and Italy. We have THAN force the americans to retreat now
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        2. paramaribo55 kmt Offline paramaribo55 kmt
          paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 25 December 2022 19: 02
          +5
          You don’t need to force them to retreat, but you need to force them to die, in a nightmare that this is reality, and not a computer. game .... just like that ... there are no other options
          1. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
            Vox_Populi (vox populi) 25 December 2022 20: 07
            -1
            Well, what's the problem? If these are appeals to the readers of this commentary, then why didn’t they personally begin to implement their proposal in order to inspire everyone with their example?! winked
        3. Ilya Zyuzin Offline Ilya Zyuzin
          Ilya Zyuzin (Ilya Zyuzin) 26 December 2022 00: 02
          0
          Who was then President in the United States, Kennedy? This is a pragmatist. And Biden is a victim of old Alzi.
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      2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 25 December 2022 17: 01
        +7
        As for Putin himself, he is incapable of changing the situation of Russia's subjugation to the plans of the United States, unless he himself serves them. This is evidenced by 20 years of his work and the result
      3. lord-palladore-11045 Offline lord-palladore-11045
        lord-palladore-11045 (Konstantin Puchkov) 25 December 2022 23: 10
        0
        You still need to check whose you will be and who you work for. To make it clear who is capable of what.
      4. Foe Pshekov Offline Foe Pshekov
        Foe Pshekov (Arkady) 26 December 2022 03: 47
        +3
        ... about nuclear, there is no other option. Options to fight NATO with conventional weapons were not considered. Because it's not real.
        Either we will force them to capitulate, or we will all die.
        The question is... who loses more? That one will tremble.
  2. Enoch Offline Enoch
    Enoch (Enoch) 25 December 2022 14: 18
    +5
    No doubt it's a matter of time. America, England, Europe and Israel are all connected by one fluid chain.
  3. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 25 December 2022 14: 29
    0
    In this case, it would be logical to provide Zelensky with the tanks and planes he requested!
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 25 December 2022 14: 48
      +3
      Probably the plan of the Anglo-Saxons has a timetable that they follow. It's just not time yet
  4. Siberian999 Offline Siberian999
    Siberian999 (Andrei) 25 December 2022 15: 55
    +3
    ... there is a great desire and determination to defeat Russia at any cost

    Any price for the USA is the death of the USA in half an hour after the start of the war.
    1. Mordvin 3 Offline Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 (Vladimir) 27 December 2022 09: 20
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      Quote: Siberian999
      Any price for the USA is the death of the USA in half an hour after the start of the war.

      No... we're going to heaven.
  5. Pravodel Offline Pravodel
    Pravodel (ppp) 25 December 2022 15: 59
    +5
    US will go to war against Russia

    Don't scare Russia! The United States will never go to war with Russia on their own, but will fight with the hands of their mongrels: Poles, Tribalts and various other Swedes ... The United States does not need a war in Europe, because. they are well aware that a big war in Europe immediately leads to the 3rd World War, in which the United States does not have a victory. Moreover, the United States is well aware that in the event of a major war in Europe, Russia will use nuclear weapons and hit the decision-making centers: the Anglo-Saxons. Therefore, the United States will do everything: they will lay down their bones so that there is no big war in Europe. That is why the United States, pumping weapons to Poland, in the event of Poland's entry into the war, leaves the latter one on one with Russia, without the support of NATO.
    The main adversary of the United States is not in Europe, but in the east. This is China. The United States is well aware that from a big war in Europe, the United States loses, and China wins, which the United States cannot allow.
    For the US, Russia is a situational adversary only in so far as Russia supports China. If Russia refuses to support China, you can be sure that the United States will immediately lift all or most of the sanctions against Russia, unfreeze stolen assets, etc. But the United States cannot understand in any way that Russia will never go so far as to stab China in the back, and not because of love for China, but because of the understanding that, following China, Russia will be completely defenseless - one on one with the United States and all the west. Russia has little chance of winning this confrontation alone without support from the east.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 25 December 2022 16: 36
      -3
      The main adversary of the United States is not in Europe, but in the east. This is China. The United States is well aware that from a big war in Europe, the United States loses, and China wins, which the United States cannot allow.

      What was in the way Americans to keep the puppet regime in Russia after Yeltsin?
      Why should Americans be afraid of the nuclear weapons of Russia under their control?
      Why The United States cannot strive for war in Europe if, with the help of NATO, they can defeat Russia without fear of its nuclear weapons, and make Europe weakened by the blood of Russia their production appendage?
      Why to attack China, they will not be able to use the nuclear weapons of Russia and its territory after its defeat in the war with NATO?
      Why they will not be able to use the population of Russia as "cannon fodder" in the war with China, as they did with the population of Ukraine?
      1. In passing Offline In passing
        In passing (Galina Rožkova) 25 December 2022 17: 18
        +2
        Interesting scenario. Only for some reason I think that both Russia and China will have enough eggs to end the scum behind the puddle. In the meantime, the task is in Ukraine.
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 25 December 2022 17: 43
          -3
          Russia and China have enough eggs to end the scum behind the puddle

          Let's not deceive ourselves. We are talking about the existing power of Russia.
          She doesn't have them! At all

          In the meantime, the task is in Ukraine.

          Yes, let yourself be drawn into the war with NATO
      2. Mordvin 3 Offline Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 (Vladimir) 27 December 2022 09: 35
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        Quote: Alexey Davydov
        What prevented the Americans from maintaining the puppet regime in Russia after Yeltsin?

        And nothing interfered.

        Quote: Alexey Davydov
        Why should Americans be afraid of the nuclear weapons of Russia under their control?

        They destroyed the nuclear potential of the USSR, and transferred weapons to Russia.

        Quote: Alexey Davydov
        Why can't the United States seek war in Europe if, with the hands of NATO, they can defeat Russia without fear of its nuclear weapons, and make Europe, weakened by Russia's blood, their industrial appendage?

        It is an appendage of Europe. Didn't you guess?

        Quote: Alexey Davydov
        Why won't they be able to use Russia's nuclear weapons and its territory to attack China after it was defeated in the war with NATO?

        Very useful. An example is Damansky Island.

        Quote: Alexey Davydov
        Why can't they use the population of Russia as "cannon fodder" in the war with China, as they did with the population of Ukraine?

        Do they need it? They are like macaques sitting on a tree and admiring the fight.
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  7. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
    Vox_Populi (vox populi) 25 December 2022 20: 09
    0
    In practical terms, this means that the United States must create an incident that will serve as an excuse for escalation. This incident could be related to Zelenskiy's unexpected trip to Washington, or perhaps the explosion of a nuclear device somewhere in Ukraine.

    Is it a horror without end or a terrible end? winked
  8. Pro100 Offline Pro100
    Pro100 (Vladimir Babaev) 25 December 2022 23: 00
    +2
    It is difficult to imagine how mobilization will take place in the United States.
  9. lord-palladore-11045 Offline lord-palladore-11045
    lord-palladore-11045 (Konstantin Puchkov) 25 December 2022 23: 04
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    Whitney believes that Washington has no plan to prolong the conflict. But there is a great desire and determination to defeat Russia at any cost.

    Biden, like Putin, is all in the clouds, still undecided. Putin should be more determined. And Biden should think about the determination for the sake of the green. And our General Staff will check whether everything is under control, so that nothing happens.
  10. Barabas Offline Barabas
    Barabas 26 December 2022 03: 14
    0
    The US will join, Germany will join, whoever is there, Poland will join. What, horror? No, it's a work environment. Firstly, their combined forces are not enough for a decisive breakthrough, and secondly, Russia is ready for general mobilization, but they are NOT. Sanctions have been exhausted, and further supply disruptions threaten only the West. I see no way for the West to win on the battlefield. It became clear that relatively small forces in modern conditions can keep the defense in prepared positions. Even without the use of nuclear weapons by us. If nuclear weapons are used, NATO will suffer a crushing defeat, as most NATO members will immediately merge, anticipating the deadly consequences of the participation of idiots in the adventure, which by then will no longer exist. We have all the trump cards, go ahead, do not screw up the country!
    1. Barabas Offline Barabas
      Barabas 26 December 2022 03: 32
      0
      Moreover, I am for breaking through the Suwalki corridor right now. I would like to look at the faces of the Balts, who destroyed all the monuments to the liberators from the Nazis, who put themselves in their ranks, and hear their cries about the application of an article or an amendment (blameless, whatever you call it), when it turns out that all NATO unity is bullshit. But this is the beginning, the entire Baltic must make its choice, and it must be justified in the new reality. We are waiting for decisive action, the chance should not be missed.
      1. Mordvin 3 Offline Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 (Vladimir) 27 December 2022 09: 51
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        Quote from Barabas
        I would like to look at the faces of the Balts, who destroyed all the monuments to the liberators from the Nazis, who put themselves in their ranks, and hear their cries about the application of the article or amendment (no matter how blasphemous you call it),

        Well, what was the matter?
    2. Barabas Offline Barabas
      Barabas 26 December 2022 03: 49
      -2
      That's what the US can do, how will they enter the war? Will they send a division? Or 2 or 5? Stretched rears will turn everything into a farce, aircraft carriers are powerless here, there will be no breakthrough, because there will not be enough resources and manpower for the offensive. Generally no chance, given the experience of the current company. They risk losing everything. But in addition, they will lose all their advantage in the form of a satellite constellation, etc., which, in a real conflict, can be soaked, if only with a nuclear explosion in the stratosphere. And where then is their connection, guidance of precision ammunition? They lose all advantage and remain completely naked and helpless. We can destroy them, or we can regret them.
      1. Barabas Offline Barabas
        Barabas 26 December 2022 03: 56
        +1
        And in these conditions, our most important enemy is our friend, because there will be those who want to promote reconciliation. But now the best dividends will be brought by a decisive struggle.
      2. Mordvin 3 Offline Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 (Vladimir) 27 December 2022 09: 52
        -1
        Quote from Barabas
        We can destroy them, or we can regret them.

        And the broken one won't break?
    3. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 26 December 2022 10: 19
      0
      Quote from Barabas
      We have all the trump cards

      Is that all?
      the Americans have a well-established space intelligence.
      The number of our strategic nuclear submarines is limited, the time on duty in the world's oceans is not at all 100% or even 50%.
      Accordingly, the United States can catch the moment when almost all strategists are at the bases, and whoever is on duty is under the guns of Los Angeles*.
      With communications, everything is fine with them, and at this caught moment, a preventive strike is inflicted on nuclear submarines at bases, on nuclear submarines at sea, on mine installations and the deployment of mobile yards, which spread across the area only sporadically.
      The most difficult thing for the United States is the bases near Orenburg and Krasnoyarsk, but there is no guarantee that they have not already agreed with the Kazakhs on the passage of B2 through their airspace.

      While such a scenario is too risky for the United States, God forbid even one Boreas or Dolphin shoots back.
      But if the Russian Federation uses tactical nuclear weapons or starts outright nuclear blackmail, they will certainly become smiling and compliant, but the decision on a preventive strike will be made.

      So before seriously waving a vigorous loaf, you must at least -
      1) complete the SSH and launch the BRZHDK on it
      2) move the nuclear submarine bases from Gadzhiyevo and Vilyuchinsk to less vulnerable places, you still need to build these bases in the normal way, so that the nuclear submarines at the base would stand under a serious concrete dome, dive under water right under this dome and go out into the open sea in a submerged position ( if it’s right under the ice, then that’s fine), and they returned in the same way.
      3) similarly for aviation, standing in the open is a complete flight. I hope the recent events in Engels will finally gouge the copper foreheads of the colonels, who will be put in the place of the generals demoted and sent to the front line.
      4) do not rely on Kazakhstan.

      * the number of Los Angeles has been greatly reduced in recent years, they write on Wiki that only 26 are left, so there are reasons to smile and play for time (and implement points 1-3) until their number and combat readiness fall below the plinth.
      The Sivulfs never deployed.
      1. Nelton Offline Nelton
        Nelton (Oleg) 26 December 2022 10: 46
        +1
        Quote from Nelton.
        The Sivulfs never deployed.

        Sorry, I forgot about Virginia, there are already quite a lot of them (19).
    4. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 26 December 2022 11: 46
      0
      Comment by Barabas
      The US will join, Germany will join, whoever is there, Poland will join. What, horror? No, it's a work environment. Firstly, their combined forces are not enough for a decisive breakthrough, and secondly, Russia is ready for general mobilization ...
      ... I see no way for the West to win on the battlefield ...
      ... If nuclear weapons are used, NATO will suffer a crushing defeat, since most NATO members will immediately merge

      Loud, prolonged applause for your comments in the US and UK sector!
      This is their plan - to drag us into a war with NATO.
      If nuclear weapons are used by us, then NATO will also use them in response. A nuclear war with NATO on the territory of Ukraine and Europe will bleed us even faster. The United States, which is on the other side of the globe, is counting on this. They do not feel sorry for their vassals (future slaves), just like Ukraine and Russia, they are expendable. After the start of the NATO war, none of them will "merge" anymore. This is the surrender and destruction of their countries.
      After the defeat of Russia, the States will strike China with our nuclear weapons and turn our population into "cannon fodder" against it, as they did earlier with Ukraine.
      Russia needs to draw out its strategic nuclear weapons and force the US and UK to retreat by threat of mutual destruction, as they did in 1962. Before it's too late
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 26 December 2022 13: 54
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        A nuclear war with NATO on the territory of Ukraine and Europe will bleed us even faster.

        By the way, why didn't I include Russia here? NATO will gradually transfer nuclear war to our territory. But the United States, providing its slaves in Europe with tactical nuclear weapons, will stay away with its strategic nuclear weapons
  11. Alexander Ponamarev Offline Alexander Ponamarev
    Alexander Ponamarev (Alexander Ponamarev) 26 December 2022 03: 40
    0
    USA I think they will go for a partial escalation, they will arrange a battle check, and there, according to the situation, and we have the last word, let's fuck off with our kindness of heart,,,,, write wasted
  12. zuuukoo Offline zuuukoo
    zuuukoo (Sergei) 26 December 2022 08: 34
    0
    Quote: Pro100
    It is difficult to imagine how mobilization will take place in the United States.

    If the situation really comes to war (and the probability is rather big along the way), mobilization will take place in Poland and Romania. Possibly in Germany and France.
    The United States will simply issue loans for the war.

    Z. Y. : In general, the United States is one of the most police states in the world with a very powerful organizational and administrative apparatus. So the coordinated work of the media, + the work of government agencies and the police and mobilization there will go like clockwork.
    I think it's better than here or in Ukraine.
  13. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 26 December 2022 10: 15
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    Joseph Stalin, respected by me, tried to avoid war not to give a reason, ... the consequences turned out to be severe, respected Vladimir Putin corrected this mistake "if a fight cannot be avoided, strike first", but he ended up with the problem that the people are rotten, do not want to fight, run away from mobilization and need to be protected soldiers (it’s good that they take care of the soldiers), but it turns out for a long time, that is, Stalin was just preparing for war in the period 1937-1941 and prepared the people (and what else to expect from the former editor of Pravda), although he did not have time to fully prepare weapons. In fact, the issue of attacking us by Japan or the United States rests on the psychology of the attackers, which Putin said, mentioning a fight in the street, attacking cowards, and in order to prevent attacks, one should not try not to give a reason, but to hit first, and make it clear that I won’t give up easily, so my opinion strike at Lviv and possibly a nuclear one. And the Americans can find a reason without a reason, for this there are test tubes with an incomprehensible liquid and polonium found on the plane ... delaying the strike on Lviv, we give strength to Biden's rather stupid employees who have forgotten or not heard about Hiroshima, .... the war begins then when people forget about the previous one, which the Russians cannot understand, because we were always taught to remember the war, but the Americans were not taught .... now America is run by people who are used to playing shooters, only after seeing the consequences for Lvov, the Americans will realize that war should be avoided. ...and the Americans don't give a damn about Lviv. it is certain that for the sake of the people of Lvov, the Americans will not be exposed to a nuclear attack, but on the contrary, they will acquire caution and cowardice in front of Russia. ... everything is like in a street fight, a strong blow and the mood of the enemy changes and it turns out he is very friendly and wants peace
  14. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 26 December 2022 10: 42
    +1
    unlike JV Stalin, Putin also prepared the population, there was patriotic work and Orthodox morality was being implanted, but somehow weakly, sluggishly, but more actively was needed, Stalin realized this too late in 1942, he returned to Orthodoxy, and this gave victory! "We are Russians, God is with us," Suvorov used to say and always won
  15. Pro100 Offline Pro100
    Pro100 (Vladimir Babaev) 26 December 2022 11: 25
    0
    The Americans are well aware that, like any country with a bourgeois-capitalist system, they will not be able to quickly mobilize the population and economy, in which case they will not be able to, unlike, for example, people's China. Hope only for technical superiority. They won’t be able to run around with subpoenas, as in Ukraine, and they won’t, because they will send them away. Therefore, they fight, for money, on foreign territories and by proxy, still trying to draw in all sorts of allies, to realize their interests, working to pre-empt.
  16. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 26 December 2022 13: 04
    +3
    Nobody needs a nuclear war on planet Earth. A nuclear war will nullify all the extracted wealth of the golden billion in 400 years of robberies.
    The trouble is that during Putin's rule, the legal issue of ownership of the territories of the former republics of the Soviet Union has not been resolved. Putin and all his entourage have a very negative attitude towards the USSR. They have a fear of the USSR.
    The territory of Ukraine is whose property? Who gave the right to dispose of this property? Show documents? Putin is afraid to answer these questions. Hence the superficial solutions that bring troubles and problems to all peoples living in the territory of the former USSR. NATO from within, with the help of traitors, killed the USSR, but could not kill all the Russians. At the committed state coup in 1991. no statute of limitations.
    The Russian Federation has big problems with each former Soviet republic of the Soviet Union, and NATO uses them according to the "Divide and Rule" principle, and the comprador bourgeois power of the Russian Federation helps them in this.
  17. Alex D Offline Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 26 December 2022 13: 12
    +1
    The United States will not fight us on its own. They fight at the hands of the Russians and are helped by traitors in Moscow and Kyiv to carry out their plans.
  18. ont65 Offline ont65
    ont65 (Oleg) 26 December 2022 16: 06
    +1
    Now political scientists are like mud and all as one experts. They carry nonsense with an important air, warming up the audience with fantasies. Any serious incident, whether it be biological, nuclear, or chemical ... and you can't lure the Americans to Ukraine with any amount of money. Such plans may be based on an international reaction and only, but on the other hand, seriously complicate their own presence in this country. The stick, as you know, has two ends and it is not known which one will have its own hump and how much it hurts. As long as the Russian Federation is capable of threatening NATO, the states will not be able to make any effective gestures with this collective farm. It is no coincidence that the modernization of armaments of the army and navy is covered in the most detailed way. Not for bragging rights, for good.
  19. DeadPahom Offline DeadPahom
    DeadPahom (Eugene) 26 December 2022 18: 30
    0
    What does "go to war" mean? In order to enter the war, you need to start it.
    1. Snail N9 Offline Snail N9
      Snail N9 (Snail) 27 December 2022 04: 05
      0
      On YouTube, Strelkov said back in the spring that NATO had developed a strategy for waging war with Russia without the use of nuclear weapons and without declaring war, by unleashing a conflict in Ukraine and gradually building up forces in this conflict until Russia was defeated on the territory of Ukraine, which in this case will cause a severe fall in the image of Russia and a fall in the reputation of the entire Russian government, which in turn will lead to a "coup" and possibly the collapse of the entire country. This plan is now being implemented.
  20. Pro100 Offline Pro100
    Pro100 (Vladimir Babaev) 26 December 2022 22: 20
    +1
    Americans have a vague idea of ​​where Ukraine is located and what is the use of it. They certainly won't fight for her. But the worse things are in Europe and in Russia, the better for them. This they understand well. And something else would happen in China. Then they are completely in chocolate. This is the global world. Best of all to those who have stronger pockets.
  21. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 27 December 2022 00: 25
    +2
    If this happens, the Americans will have to understand that the war will also be on their territory. No one has ever waged nuclear wars and no one can predict how everything will be in reality.
  22. Savin Offline Savin
    Savin (Savin) 28 December 2022 16: 14
    +1
    The more we strive for an agreement, the more they will wipe their feet about us. The goals are not defined, they change every day. To fight like this to fight. To punish the enemy, to punish and win. fascists. All this is strange. Money does not smell.