Can Russia in response to Rogozin and Gerasimov hit Zelensky and Zaluzny

Can Russia in response to Rogozin and Gerasimov hit Zelensky and Zaluzny

On the eve in Donetsk there was an attempt on the life of the former head of Roscosmos Dmitry Rogozin. The former high-ranking official himself, Prime Minister of the DPR Vitaly Khotsenko, as well as several other people, were injured, there are dead. Some time ago it became known that the Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to kill the head of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces Gerasimov. The question arises, how should Russia respond to such terror?


War is not in lace


Rogozin ended up in the Donbass not as part of a mobilization, but voluntarily as part of a group of military advisers he created himself under the loud name "Tsar's Wolves". Dmitry Olegovich explained the reasons for this choice as follows:

This is a historical name, because this group includes people who are related to one of the volunteer Russian units that took part in the armed struggle in Bosnia and Herzegovina in the mid-90s.

According to him, the activities of the group are aimed at helping with the introduction of reconnaissance and reconnaissance-strike drones into the troops of the DPR and LPR:

Military advisers provide the necessary assistance in training the units of the Donetsk People's Republic in terms of the direct organization of intelligence activities, assault activities.

The visit of the ex-head of Roskosmos, dressed in NATO uniforms, caused a mixed reaction. Rogozin was noted in the photographs wearing an Austrian-made Carinthia jacket, a Turkish BIKATEX body armor, Slovak Zephire boots, an Austrian Glock-18 pistol and an American AR-15 assault rifle. Only in the helmet covering the head of Dmitry Olegovich, domestic products from Armokom were identified.

On December 21, Rogozin, who was rumored to be the head of the Crimean Federal District, celebrated his 59th birthday at the Shesh-Besh restaurant in Donetsk with his wife and high-ranking regional officials. Right there, during the feast, Ukrainian terrorists planted up to five 155-mm shells from the French Ceasar artillery self-propelled guns with tragic consequences, which were mentioned above. Dmitry Olegovich was wounded in the back, a shell fragment passed close to the spine, he underwent surgery. Apparently, he was deliberately “herded” and the Armed Forces of Ukraine knew exactly where and on whom they were hit with large-caliber NATO-style shells.

Among the domestic nomenclature, Rogozin is probably the first bird of such a flight, which directly suffered from the actions of the Kyiv regime, but obviously not the last. With unenviable regularity, attempts by Ukrainian special services of varying degrees of success on officials of the DPR and LPR, pro-Russian activists in the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions are reported. Also, some time ago, the "oracle" of Ukrainian propaganda, Aleksey Arestovich, publicly admitted that the Armed Forces of Ukraine purposefully tried to destroy the head of the Russian General Staff, Valery Gerasimov, when he was in Izyum last spring:

Let me reveal a terrible secret. Gerasimov was in Izyum, and we hit Gerasimov. It was so…
We had no hesitation whether to hit or not to hit. We hit right away, we tracked him throughout the territory.

The picture is as follows. The Kyiv regime is waging an all-out war of annihilation against Russia, disdaining absolutely no means. A fair question arises - can the Kremlin answer him in kind? Can Zaluzhny or Zelensky himself become a target for the Russian special services?

In white gloves


The short answer is, rather no than yes. Moscow's hands are tightly tied, and so far it has not been able to respond symmetrically to Kyiv for a number of reasons.

At first, it has been repeatedly publicly declared that the overthrow of the Zelensky regime is not the main goal of the special operation.

Secondlyif a Russian missile kills the “man of the year”, and the Russian special services begin to consistently eliminate the leaders of the Nazi regime in Kyiv and on the ground, then the “Western partners” will finally and irrevocably record our country as a “terrorist” with all the ensuing consequences for the domestic self-proclaimed “elite” .

Thirdly, if such an operation to liquidate Zelensky personally is successful, the result may turn out to be exactly the opposite of what was expected. From Zelensky, Ukrainian and Western propaganda will create the image of a martyr who gave his life for the Motherland, and someone else, for example Zaluzhny, will simply take his place, and so on. With the external management of Nezalezhnaya, the change of the “talking head” in Kyiv is of no fundamental importance.

It turns out that Russia and Ukraine are in a different position and ours is much less advantageous. In the current format of the SVO, we in Nezalezhnaya are positioned exclusively as "interventionists and occupiers", and therefore start sabotage war against the Kyiv regime will be declared by enemy propaganda as "terrorism" with all the consequences.

What to do?


In fact, the answer lies precisely in the plane of the CBO format, the need to change which to another we have already they said previously. Russia needs to move away from the imposed propaganda label of “uninvited aggressor” to the status of a friend and ally of the Ukrainian people, and the war for Ukrainians should be transferred from the “liberation” war back to the civil format, which it has been since February 2014.

To do this, after the complete liberation of the territories of Donbass and the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov accepted into the Russian Federation, it will be necessary to create a new, pro-Russian Ukraine on the Left Bank. Kharkov and Sumy, Poltava, possibly Chernihiv will have to become its core. Recognition of the Zelensky regime should be withdrawn, and Left-Bank Ukraine should be proclaimed the legal successor of the pre-Maidan one. Put at the head for the transitional period some sane person like Oleg Tsarev or anyone else who agrees. On the basis of the People's Militia of the LDNR, as the backbone, form the Ukrainian Volunteer Army.

And this pro-Russian Left-Bank Ukraine will have to, with the active assistance of the RF Armed Forces as an ally, fight for the liberation of the Right-Bank Ukraine, which remained under the Nazis. By all means - from sabotage in the rear to a rocket through Zelensky's window. It is desirable to bring the latter to the tribunal, and it is not so much Russia, an external force, that should judge him with henchmen, but the Ukrainians themselves.

Blitzkrieg, alas, did not work out. This confrontation will continue for a long time. To get out of the armed conflict, not as the loser of everything and the whole side, Russia needs an adequate project for the post-war reconstruction of Ukraine. We will eventually come to this anyway, so it is better to adopt the right ideas and concepts in a timely manner than later, after years of wasted years and ruined lives.

If someone is now very worried about the ownership of Kharkov and Odessa, these issues can be resolved later on in self-determination referenda, which will need to be held in each of the liberated regions of Ukraine.
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  1. guest Offline guest
    guest 23 December 2022 16: 46
    +8
    Can Russia in response to Rogozin and Gerasimov hit Zelensky and Zaluzny

    Of course he can, but unfortunately he doesn't want to.
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 24 December 2022 23: 21
      0
      Well, hitting Zaluzhny will probably be useful, but what about Zelensky? A more competent ruler will come, but it is worse for us.
      1. guest Offline guest
        guest 25 December 2022 00: 14
        -1
        Quote: Alexey Lan
        A more competent ruler will come

        The ruler is sitting in a different place, and this is only a Gauleiter, and his death will not make us worse, it will simply become different there.
      2. Anatoly21 Offline Anatoly21
        Anatoly21 (Anatoly21) 30 December 2022 14: 56
        0
        And destroy it and so everyone!
  2. Smirnoff Offline Smirnoff
    Smirnoff (Victor) 23 December 2022 16: 52
    -14
    Can Russia strike Zelensky and Zaluzhny in response to Rogozin and Gerasimov???

    NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It can't, because there is NO need for it.
    The time will come and they will answer for all their atrocities against the Ukrainian people.
    DO NOT rush!
    REVENGE will overtake them and many other American terrorists and Bandera.

    - USA took Ukraine hostage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    This is the whole point, and "Ze", Zaluzhny and other puppets are simple performers of democratic atrocities, banditry and US terrorism in Ukraine.
    - Criminal shady tycoons of the United States planned, planted and organized American democratic TERRORISM in Ukraine.
    - Military instructors from the United States and NATO countries taught Ukro Bandera terrorist methods of warfare, atrocities, executions and shelling of cities and civilians in Ukraine.
    - The Americans are pumping up Ukraine with weapons, DRUGS, they finance and pay for all this brutal American democratic crime.
    1. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 23 December 2022 21: 21
      -2
      Quote: Smirnoff
      NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It can't, because there is NO need for it.

      Remember the hype against the deployment of "Patriots" in Poland, Romania, precisely because of their dual-use capability? , The United States supplies one installation to Ukraine ... Before the New Year, when there will be a bunch of "Rogozin's Name Day", at the highest level, decision makers ...
      And now let's imagine, after the chiming clock - live ... Who said that it would be, not in a nuclear version?
      You were not embarrassed by media reports about the falls of "accelerators, etc." in the Volgograd region, etc.? If we take into account the navigation of US satellite reconnaissance, US missiles and installations, as well as the determination of situational targets, then a decapitation strike from the "Ukrainian location" may turn out to be even more than successful. And after that, representatives of the "fifth column" in power will enter the arena "so fortunately surviving", who will sign any form of capitulation and destruction of Russia.
      Can this be avoided? At a minimum, plug all the gaps in air defense, exclude the possibility of Western reconnaissance satellites, conduct missiles between the spheres of influence of Russian air defense, and the population should try to avoid mass events, at least for the next few months.
      If something like this happens, you won't be so sure that there is "NO need" to respond.
    2. Andrey Stavropolsky (Andrei) 24 December 2022 21: 46
      0
      What Ukrainian people do you mean? In my opinion, the entire Ukrainian people on the right side must answer for their stupidity. And not just greens and other creatures. This so-called people must answer for the LDNR and our soldiers, for all this they must answer
    3. Alexbf109 Offline Alexbf109
      Alexbf109 (Alexey) 28 December 2022 12: 43
      +1
      Again, nonsense, about the "fraternal people who" love us ")) Until Russia stops believing in the "love" of the Bandera people for us, we will continue to fight!
      Only a complete cleansing of the territories of the former Ukraine from Bandera, in ANY WAY, will end this war! For one thing, it would be good to clean Russia, to the fullest !!!!
  3. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 23 December 2022 16: 57
    +10
    The Kyiv regime is waging an all-out war of annihilation against Russia, disdaining absolutely no means.

    I don’t know how the Kyiv regime is, but the fact that the Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces was tracked suggests that the American intelligence service is working completely freely and without hindrance.
  4. Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
    Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 23 December 2022 16: 58
    +9
    why are you obsessed with destruction in response only to the Jew and the zaluzhny
    Isn't the rest of the generals and Western high-ranking officers in Ukraine not a target no less pleasant
    and the entire administrative apparatus around the Jew. Danilov, Yermak, the leadership of the SBU and other cannibals?
    Central Bank, Ministry of Finance, state institutions ensuring the stability of the state machine, the prosecutor's office
  5. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 23 December 2022 17: 01
    +3
    Arrow question.
    Zelensky, although a civilian, popularly elected and recognized by Russia, is the Supreme Commander-in-Chief by law. Can kill

    And Rogozin celebrated his birthday with the military in a restaurant not far from the collision line (they wrote in VO). And a military man died there (according to VO) - that means ... you understand .. A special operation, a restaurant, a banquet hall, rooms ...

    Reward - it may well be.
  6. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
    ivan2022 (ivan2022) 23 December 2022 17: 13
    +6
    Some kind of "inadequate" story, starting with the alleged "necessity to divide the USSR" in December 1991 at night in the Belovezhsky forest .... and up to the need in December at night to "walk in a restaurant" in the shelled territory ..... some kind of surrealism then.

    A series of idiotic, insane acts ..... with terrible consequences, victims ..
    Not that "the mind does not understand", but simply collective. madness..
  7. DeadPahom Offline DeadPahom
    DeadPahom (Eugene) 23 December 2022 17: 17
    -7
    The thoughts in the article are correct, but for some reason the author again made a stuffing about the failed blitzkrieg. Is it really impossible to understand that the described plan is the original one? If I don't like my neighbor, then the stupidest way to solve the problem is to kill him and take care of his family, who will hate me for the rest of their days.
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 23 December 2022 17: 19
      +2
      Quote from DeadPahom
      who will hate me for the rest of her days.

      Well, Ukraine hated Russia long before the start of the NWO.
      1. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
        ivan2022 (ivan2022) 23 December 2022 17: 44
        +3
        Of course, it is convenient to explain all historical events by the fact that "they hated these", but it's also good to understand the reasons for hatred.

        And there is only one reason: it is necessary to work with the peoples, and not just suck everything out of them and juggle like balls.

        First ... eklmn ... "established Russia" in December 1991 at night in the Belovezhskaya forest .... It seems like "not to feed them all."

        Mentally development of the "elite" at the prehistoric level. Here they themselves have already begun to shoot.
        1. guest Offline guest
          guest 24 December 2022 17: 11
          +2
          Quote: ivan2022
          but it's not bad to understand the reasons for the hatred.

          The reasons are known, after the collapse of the USSR in the schools of Ukraine they began to instill hatred for everything Russian, and to achieve this goal they did not even mock the use of the hated Russian language.
  8. DeadPahom Offline DeadPahom
    DeadPahom (Eugene) 23 December 2022 17: 39
    0
    Quote: guest
    Well, Ukraine hated Russia long before the start of the NWO.

    Explain to me how it happened? During the Second World War, we fought with almost all of Europe. And before the Second World War, Europe hated us fiercely. And according to the results, this same Europe kissed us passionately, and even recorded itself as a winner over fascism and Nazism. Ask how denazification took place in Europe after WWII. The solution of the Ukrainian question is impossible without relying on healthy internal Ukrainian forces. Tanks can only carry out demilitarization.
  9. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 23 December 2022 17: 48
    +5
    The helplessness of the SVR, GRU and other services became clearly clear with the beginning of the SVO. So for these 300 days, nothing has changed, even the same failed bosses in the same places. Therefore, there are no hints about the possible elimination of the iconic leaders of the SVU, the SBU, the government, even due to the weakness of the services of the Russian Federation. And all the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are in a failed state, where all 30 years have rolled. Today, as a roasted rooster pecked at the NWO, they began patching and repairing the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, they forced the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation to work. You can’t fix it soon when the whole structure of the RF Armed Forces is turned upside down by Serdyukovism. Even the junior and middle officers are weak and do not meet the requirements (many officer forges have been destroyed), as well as the absence of a professional junior commissar. composition, etc. - all these are the foundations of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, and what kind of army without the main foundations, and the ridge, is weak, which we see .... So the NWO has been dragging on for almost a year, where the Armed Forces of Ukraine are at the bottom of a dozen European armies. The political component is also a special and not rosy conversation.
  10. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 23 December 2022 17: 53
    +3
    Dear Author, he stated everything sensibly, but puzzled with the ending: "we need an adequate project for the post-war reorganization of Ukraine."
    And ... an adequate project for the post-war reorganization of Russia (to adopt the right ideas and concepts) is not required?
    To defeat Ukraine: first of all, it is required ... to disarm it ideologically ... by the Russian example.
    But hasn't the current leadership become bronzed and capable of taking cardinal steps?
  11. lord-palladore-11045 (Konstantin Puchkov) 23 December 2022 18: 41
    +2
    Only "can" and "could be", well, how vague then? When even in the "third" countries of our citizens, you live well, they are arrested and handed over to the Americans, there is no doubt about it. The Motherland does not want to stand up for its citizens, so love it after that.
  12. zloybond Offline zloybond
    zloybond (steppenwolf) 23 December 2022 21: 52
    +9
    Well YOU!!! We are not like that!!! - shout joyfully and wave our politicians from the podium. We need to take prisoners, treat them, feed, rest, change and again fight against the Russian troops .... Something like this is the picture looking at the indecision and indistinctness of our politicians. But on the Internet there are videos of joyful "refugees" who receive assistance in Russia and transfer it to help the Armed Forces of Ukraine .... some kind of nonsense.
    Why military actions - in an economic war there is no initiative of politicians in response to their sanctions. There is no initiative of our sanctions for them. Ruthless, uncompromising. Even when voices about nationalization were heard, they shouted hysterically from the rostrum IMPOSSIBLE !!! We are not like that !!! - apparently the defenders (accomplices of the USA and the West) of foreign business, in which they, by some quiet miracle, apparently participate and cover.
  13. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 23 December 2022 22: 08
    +1
    Of course it can, but who will do it and who will allow it. After all, under Stalin they wanted to make Hitler kaput. But then they thought - they know Hitler, but what will happen after Hitler? It could be much worse.
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 28 December 2022 16: 18
      0
      Quote: zenion
      It could be much worse.

      It certainly cannot be worse than Zelensky.
  14. Yaroslav the Wise (Yaroslav the Wise) 24 December 2022 12: 40
    +1
    The Glock-18, by the way, is not a bad weapon. I would say one of the best. But this is so, by the way.
    In general, after the attack on the restaurant, where Rogozin was, among other things, a statement was published in the Ukrainian media by a representative of the Border Guard Service of Ukraine. The representative reported that this strike was a kind of punishment for illegal crossing of the Ukrainian border. Something like a "subpoena" From this we conclude: it is not necessary to shoot at Zelensky, not at Zaluzhny. And you need to send a response "letter" to the entire Border Service of Ukraine. And clearly indicate where the border between Russia and Banderlogia now passes. "Letters" with explanations should be sent both to the office of the Border Service of Ukraine and to the places.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 24 December 2022 21: 39
      -1
      Yaroslav, respect!!!
  15. Alexander Dutov Offline Alexander Dutov
    Alexander Dutov (Alexander Dutov) 24 December 2022 14: 09
    +3
    Vague doubts torment me ...

    The Americans claim that they did not allow the Armed Forces of Ukraine to hit Gerasimov ... What is this "gratitude" for? And listening to the latter’s recent report on the supply of weapons to Ukraine, there was a strong feeling that he was repeating the report of the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as he bashfully kept silent about what was done so that these deliveries did not reach the front ... And who exactly in the General Staff and the army was responsible for it?
  16. Uncle Borya Offline Uncle Borya
    Uncle Borya (Uncle Borya) 24 December 2022 15: 08
    +4
    it will be necessary to create a new, pro-Russian Ukraine on the Left Bank. Kharkov and Sumy, Poltava, possibly Chernihiv will have to become its core.

    Absolutely, categorically disagree. There should no longer be such a territorial entity as Ukraine.
    1. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
      Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 24 December 2022 15: 21
      +5
      everything is correct. otherwise, after some time, #we aren’t like this# will again begin to send Zurabovs, Chernomyrdins and other Medina slag there for an honorary pension ... and the Americans will work and educate a new generation of Bandera in these territories ... no pro-Russian Medvedchuks, YanukaVegetables and other kuchma to us don’t ... either don’t give a damn about Ukraine and don’t waste energy and money, or these lands should become the territory of the Russian Federation ... otherwise there will again be a hotbed of tension
    2. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 28 December 2022 13: 29
      -1
      Quote: Uncle Borya
      There should no longer be such a territorial entity as Ukraine.

      I believe that among Ukrainians there are many supporters of a mirror reflection of this theory, that they say "There should no longer be such a territorial entity as Russia."
      And that "Russia has long crossed all the red lines, where are the nuclear weapons attacks on decision-making centers in Moscow?"
      Against this background, Zelensky’s position (return everything as it was in 2014) is just moderation itself, and the American one is completely collusion and capitulation...

      Uncle Borya, are you even writing from the front line, or is it just another couch warrior?
  17. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
    Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 24 December 2022 15: 19
    -1
    somehow it’s even a pity that they didn’t hit ... the one who fucked up his own in space will not be called to account, unfortunately ... so maybe the Ukrainians would at least ... but there’s nothing to talk about mum at all ... if it weren’t for him , Ukraine would not have existed for a long time
  18. Oleg V. Offline Oleg V.
    Oleg V. (Oleg Vladimirovich) 24 December 2022 15: 30
    +4
    Our prisoners are shot, beaten in hospitals and orphanages, but they started at high-ranking ones ... And they are not terrorists, but we are Western partners .... Well, we are already tired of these glances at Western partners! It's time to say loudly you Europeans are all as one accomplices of Hitler, and you are the USA - the descendants of pirates, thieves, prostitutes and slaves ... And hit Zele and his entourage right away .... However, the point is not that they will be declared terrorists, but that they will put additional barriers in the form of sanctions and cash flows will decrease ...
  19. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 24 December 2022 17: 23
    +3
    What is the purpose of the NWO RF in Ukraine? Does anyone know the Law of the Russian Federation or the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation, which indicate the purpose, the basis for conducting the SVO. There is no need to refer to the UN Charter, it is not a legal document of the Russian Federation. To beat or not to beat on the leadership is decided by the authorities. During the Great Patriotic War (1941-1945), the Nazis were beaten regardless of their rank and position.
  20. Peace Peace. Online Peace Peace.
    Peace Peace. (Tumar Tumar) 24 December 2022 20: 59
    +1
    The author in almost every article stubbornly promotes that the elimination of Zelensky is almost to the detriment of us. Weird?
    It is impossible to leave in the government the main individual of Jewish nationality.
  21. nikanikolich Offline nikanikolich
    nikanikolich (nikola) 24 December 2022 21: 34
    +3
    What for? "Id..ot" had the imprudence to be the godfather of the king, like in the war he is immortal, a sort of hussar on a white horse, and out of nowhere appeared you know who. This is how my battalion commander was killed in 1982 in Afghanistan, they were sitting on their ass exactly celebrating the birthday of the company commander of the second company, and then a bummer, the spirits decided to take the first point, which was without the control of officers. everyone was on their birthday. The battle was fierce, four were killed, sixteen were wounded, and this was without a battalion commander and people following to help. The battalion commander advanced for protection in the forefront on the BTeR and was killed by a grenade launcher, she pierced the glass, his body in the chest area, flying through his body, she tore off the machine gunner's arm and, without exploding, got stuck in the bulkhead between the passenger compartment and the engine. How did you know that the point was without commanders? Coincidence? I think not, because in Afghanistan, the information transmission system was developed many times better than ours and no electronics were needed; a flashlight and a mirror were enough. With the current tracking system, and if you wish, you can bang anyone, there would be a desire.
  22. lemeshkin Offline lemeshkin
    lemeshkin (lemeshkin) 24 December 2022 22: 06
    0
    This is already a consequence, but what are the reasons for the fact that in Ukraine they began to instill hatred for the Russian? Have we gone too far with our understanding of history?
  23. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 25 December 2022 01: 57
    0
    Some nonsense ..
  24. gosha smirnov_2 Offline gosha smirnov_2
    gosha smirnov_2 (gosha smirnov) 25 December 2022 04: 47
    +1
    It can’t. To do this, you need to have normal intelligence. If the Russian Federation had it, then there would be no such simply colossal failures in terms of trade. Yes, and now NOBODY has been punished for the stupidly failed work of the Russian special services. So nothing has changed and such opportunities no.
  25. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 25 December 2022 06: 30
    +1
    Russia will not answer. I don’t even know who must die for this, what would Putin answer.
  26. Vlad Sirs Offline Vlad Sirs
    Vlad Sirs (Sirius NVL) 25 December 2022 11: 30
    +2
    The dinner spoon is good. Thoughts are correct, only late for 8 years. I was very surprised at the Kremlin strategists in 2014, they talked a lot about the cunning plan then, as a result it turned out that there was nothing, the Kremlin's naivety on the verge of stupidity led to today's bloody tragedy and mutual destruction to the delight of a third party.
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 25 December 2022 14: 04
      0
      Quote: Vlad Srs
      The dinner spoon is good. Thoughts are correct, only late for 8 years. I was very surprised at the Kremlin strategists in 2014, they talked a lot about the cunning plan then, as a result it turned out that there was nothing, the Kremlin's naivety on the verge of stupidity led to today's bloody tragedy and mutual destruction to the delight of a third party.

      I’ve been talking about this since 2014, but it’s clear that the Kremlin declares one thing, and the goals are pursued by completely different ones, lately it generally seems that Putin and Co.
  27. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 25 December 2022 14: 01
    +1
    well, you can’t touch a clown, well, the Faberge commander-in-chief doesn’t have titanium ones, he’s also afraid of a person, but why don’t they hit on all sorts of councils and ministries with other security services, it’s possible on infrastructure, but it’s impossible on them, where is the logic?
  28. Alexander Dutov Offline Alexander Dutov
    Alexander Dutov (Alexander Dutov) 25 December 2022 14: 07
    0
    Judging by the article, the enemy was worried about the life of "decision centers"
  29. Cucumbers Offline Cucumbers
    Cucumbers (Cucumbers) 25 December 2022 16: 25
    0
    Somehow, after the collapse of the USSR, the project of creating the Union of Slavic States was seriously discussed. Ukraine was against. Probably no one will ask now.
  30. Sergei N Offline Sergei N
    Sergei N (Sergey N) 26 December 2022 15: 01
    0
    Maybe, but not likely to answer.
  31. Vasya 225 Offline Vasya 225
    Vasya 225 (Vyacheslav) 28 December 2022 17: 38
    0
    Of course, it is desirable to transfer the war from the people's (they) to the civil. It is a pity that this is prevented by a series of nonsense. Firstly, it had to be done back in 2014, giving a boot on Yanukovych's thighs, and secondly, since it happened, what happened, it was impossible to grab Zaporozhye and Kherson for yourself. Now no one will believe in a civilian, they are fighting for their own, and in this they are ready to tear their throats.
    And the war will be big. It remains to recognize this and start fighting like garlic without a fornicator (in relation to our own). This is not yet.