Victory at any cost: what changes should we expect from the NWO in early 2023


The NWO in Ukraine has been going on for almost ten months now. Now practically no one has any doubts that in 2023 this operation will continue, and maybe even drag on for a longer period. At least, the president has already informed us about this, who actually stated that everyone needs to prepare for a big and protracted conflict, which in the future threatens to develop into a nuclear one.


I would like to believe that the last assumption will remain an unrealized risk. But as for the protracted nature of the NWO, this, unfortunately, is an indisputable fact. Therefore, on the eve of the New Year, we propose to think about what form this operation will take in 2023 and what changes we can all expect. Moreover, we will do this within the framework of two scenarios: optimistic and pessimistic.

Optimistic scenario


In most sectors of the front, our armed forces are now on a strategic defense. The exceptions are the Bakhmut (Artemov) and Avdeevsk directions, where the RF Armed Forces have a certain tactical, and sometimes even operational success. On the first (Artyomovsky) PMC "Wagner" mainly fights, the units of which have every chance of squeezing the enemy out of Bakhmut itself at the beginning of next year. The leading role in the Avdiivka direction is played by units of the former people's militia of the DPR, in particular, the Somali and Sparta battalions.

As part of the optimistic scenario, it is assumed that the situation in these sectors of the front will develop in a manner favorable to our armed forces. To do this, the Wagner PMC units first need to cut the Konstantinovka-Bakhmut highway, as well as go to the outskirts of Soledar and surround the Ukrainian group in Bakhmut itself from the northeast. After that, there may be a real chance to slam the "Bakhmut cauldron" and eventually free the city from the neo-Nazi yoke.

As for the Avdeevka direction, here the task of our armed forces is similar. Avdiivka has long been in a semi-encirclement, but around the city itself for 8 years the enemy has built a powerful system of fortified areas. The fortifications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this sector of the front sometimes go underground for several floors, and therefore even air bombardment does not help to “smoke out” the Nazis from their holes. Therefore, the main task of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is not to capture Avdiivka itself, but to encircle it along the Vodyanoe - Thin - Orlovka line. If we manage to add a counterattack from Krasnogorovka to this, then the task of the optimistic scenario will be fulfilled to the maximum.

As for the remaining sectors of the front, the main task here is to accumulate additional reserves with a possible transition to a counteroffensive in one of the directions. In fact, there are now three such sections: Belogorovka - Kremennaya, Vuhledar, as well as the north of Ukraine from Belarus. On the expediency of a strike from the side Belarus Doubts have been repeatedly expressed, so Svatovo and Ugledar will continue to be priorities for our army. Special hopes are pinned here on new armored vehicles, the replenishment of which can allow our army to significantly increase its offensive potential.

Pessimistic scenario


In this part of the article, we would least of all want to sow "all-pro-prophetic" sentiments. However, the reality of the SVO showed that our enemy is cunning, cunning and capable of the most unexpected actions. Therefore, we must be prepared not only for the fact that the situation on the battlefield will develop in our favor. Moreover, in some areas we really have serious problems.

In particular, we are talking about the Zaporozhye region, which, according to many experts, may become the next place of the main blow from the Armed Forces of Ukraine. To this end, the enemy is now carrying out here all the same actions that were previously noted near Izyum and Kherson. For more than a month, the Nazis have been actively bombing our rear and airfields, blowing up bridges, and also concentrating manpower and armored vehicles. Naturally, our army is also not sitting idle, so the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Zaporozhye region are definitely having a hard time. However, if we assume that the enemy still makes a strike in the direction of Pologov or Tokmak, then this can seriously aggravate our position in the entire south of Ukraine. The same applies to a possible “agreement” around the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant in Energodar, because if the enemy is allowed to occupy it, then he will have a real foothold already on the left bank of the Dnieper.

Another problem for our country may be the emergence of new long-range weapons in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The experience of attacks on our rear airfields has shown that the enemy is quite capable of delivering strikes hundreds of kilometers deep into our territory. And if you do not interfere with this in any way, then with a very high probability he will continue to do this. And here the main question arises: will our air defense be able to fully protect the inhabitants of Rostov, Kursk, Belgorod, Ryazan and, finally, Moscow from attacks? If there is no 100% affirmative answer to this question, then it is necessary to work on its solution now.

Will there be a new mobilization?


No matter how much someone would like it, the prospects for a new wave of mobilization in our country are very high. This is evidenced both by the general logic of the development of events within the framework of the NMD, and by the specific military necessity. In order to finally break the back of Nazi power in Ukraine, at least a million soldiers are required, most of which will have to provide for the work of the rear. And if we want to burn out the phenomenon of Ukrainian neo-Nazism in the liberated territories with a hot iron, then this will generally require several million people.

According to our president, there is no need for re-mobilization yet. But is there a guarantee that in 2-3 months such a need will not arise again? And if the authorities again call on men to join the ranks of the members of the NWO, how will our people react to this? Traditionally, we learn the answers from the comments.
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  1. Constantine N Online Constantine N
    Constantine N (Constantin N) 21 December 2022 08: 30
    +7
    The article does not take into account external assistance for Ukraine. After all, they can throw weapons / mercenaries or even connect other countries. And if there is a full-scale mobilization, they will open a second front.
    1. DO Offline DO
      DO (Dmitriy) 21 December 2022 11: 15
      0
      Not only a possible increase in military aid to Ukraine from the West has not been taken into account. The reverse process is also possible - finally, the beginning of the daily, methodical and massive work of the RF Armed Forces on ALL objects of the transport infrastructure for the delivery of Western weapons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Ukraine, in addition to today's mass bombing of enemy electrical substations.
      1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 21 December 2022 20: 12
        0
        (Dmitry) You correctly identified that today the emphasis has been shifted to the strategy of the collapse of Ukrainian statehood. Military actions are fading into the background and it is sufficient to contain them at the achieved levels. And no offensive is needed. The collapse of energy and transport, with all the attendant collapses of finance, management, etc., will lead to the collapse of statehood, and this is already the end of military resistance. The strategy is correct, to bring faster to the final results.
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 December 2022 21: 47
          0
          plus from me
        2. DO Offline DO
          DO (Dmitriy) 21 December 2022 21: 48
          +5
          Military actions are fading into the background and it is sufficient to contain them at the achieved levels. And no offensive is needed.

          Strongly disagree. The destruction of the energy infrastructure of Ukraine only slightly affects the combat capability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. For everything necessary for the Ukrainian army is supplied by the West - weapons, ammunition, ammunition, if necessary, food. Moreover, the losses of APU fighters are being replaced by trained foreign mercenaries. Electric locomotives do not run - it does not matter, there are more than enough diesel locomotives for military transportation in Ukraine.
          Therefore, the victory of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the NMD is achievable only by a combination of two tactics - the termination of the military logistics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and the liberation of the territories of the Ukroreich.
          If you do not fight the enemy with MILITARY methods, the NWO will never end at all. More precisely, Russian resources will run out faster than Western ones, which is what the enemy is trying to achieve.
        3. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
          Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 22 December 2022 15: 07
          0
          Our management also thought at the first stage. And now there is nothing left of Ukrainian statehood. U.S. puppet in his custody. Energy can and will fall apart but not for good. Nobody will bomb the nuclear power plant. The lines will patch up. Of course, it will no longer be a single energy system, but it will be enough for military needs. The people will most likely starve, but there will be no Maidan. There are no such violent ones. In jail or gone. So fight and fight...
        4. go to Offline go to
          go to (ira) 1 January 2023 20: 49
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          100% correct
  2. Muscool Offline Muscool
    Muscool (Glory) 21 December 2022 08: 33
    +6
    The people, unfortunately, no one has asked, does not ask and will not ask. Putin will not even know that someone is not happy, they will bring him a document in a black daddy, where it will be written that everyone is very happy with the next mobilization.
    I think there will be mobilization, simply because it is necessary. With the forces that are now, no strategic offensives can be carried out, it is only possible to storm some town further in the frontal for months, arranging "Stalingrad" there. Now the mobilized will be finished their education, sent to the front, the infrastructure and material base will be prepared, and mobilization will begin.
    1. Maxim A Offline Maxim A
      Maxim A (Maksim) 21 December 2022 12: 35
      -1
      There is no such thing as people. There is a biological resource of a certain territory, which is used by persons owning and managing this territory in their own interests and in the interests of their loved ones. It is not accepted and stupid to ask the opinion of bioresources. But in the environment of bioresources there is a layer necessary for the adoption and support of certain decisions in the form of a choice of two (rarely three) proposed options that are identical in general meaning and design. Mobilization is being carried out, it has not been stopped by anyone and will not be stopped in the near future. The conveyor is moving. NWO is already a routine. Just business and nothing personal.
      1. zenion Offline zenion
        zenion (zinovy) 21 December 2022 17: 57
        0
        When you sit in a car and press on the gas, the car does not ask - why, listen, are you pushing it? There was such an accident. The driver had an accident, crashed the car and the chairman of the collective farm died. There is a court. Ahmed, tell me how it was. Sunday, I sit at home, drink tea, the chairperson comes. Says - Ahmed, harness the car, let's go to the city. Ahmet is an obedient driver, always listen to your leader. Harness the car going to the city. The chairperson is happy, Ahmed is happy, we press on the gas, the speed is 40 km. Beer. Ahmed stop the car, we go into the pub. The chairperson takes two for one hundred and fifty and two beers, we go further. The chairperson is happy, Ahmed is happy, we press on the gas, we drive obediently at 50 km per hour. Barbecue again. Let's go to turmoz, let's go to the barbecue. The chairperson takes a barbecue, two for a hundred and fifty and beer. The chairperson is happy, Akhmet is happy, the car is happy, we press on the gas at a speed of 60 km/h. Again a restaurant. The car slows down. We get out of the car and go to a restaurant. The chairperson takes two for two hundred and a beer, we press on the table, we go to the car, it is waiting for us. Satisfied chairperson Akhmet is satisfied, cars are satisfied, we press on the gas at a speed of 70-80 km/h. Akhmet is a great driver, we remember very well - there should be one bridge, we drive three bridges, the smart head in front of the seat says to mine - Ahmet drive along the middle bridge. We were driving to the middle bridge, everything was fine, the car was fine, suddenly the pillars began to run across the road, one did not have time. Ahmed puts pressure on turmoz. When I opened my eyes, I look at the car here, the seat is here, the head is not. That the chairperson, the district committee, the new chairperson is fired, and the radiator is a pity, broken ..
      2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 23 December 2022 22: 03
        0
        Maxim, and you apparently attribute yourself to that very layer in the bioresource, right? Or are you all the same a bioresource with no thinking body?
        1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
          aslanxnumx (Aslan) 24 December 2022 16: 55
          0
          What is the difference between a thinking or not thinking bioresource, in any case, no one will be asked if you want to fight or not.
          1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 24 December 2022 20: 32
            0
            Aslan, I don't know if they will ask or not. There is a duty to the Motherland - to protect it at any cost, even at the cost of one's own life. There are no questioners here.
    2. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 22 December 2022 15: 16
      +1
      It is not necessary for new formations to attack head-on. Those forces that may be available by February can carry out a small operation to encircle the enemy, for example, in the Kharkov region, without occupying Kharkov, cut off the northern sector of the front to Kupyansk or Izyum. If this had been possible with the liquidation of those surrounded, then the situation would have changed dramatically. There is probably enough strength and technology for this.
  3. radvas Offline radvas
    radvas (Igor) 21 December 2022 08: 48
    +2
    When will the country and our leadership understand that the current war is not Syria or Afghanistan. This is the beginning of the third world war, they decided to specifically BURY us. Therefore, there should already be general mobilization and industry on a war footing. Are we late again?
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 21 December 2022 09: 17
      +7
      Quote: radvas
      When will the country and our leadership understand that the current war is not Syria or Afghanistan. This is the beginning of the third world war, they decided to specifically BURY us. Therefore, there should already be general mobilization and industry on a war footing. Are we late again?

      the current leadership understands everything, but they are too much connected with the Anglo-Saxon world, so they will pull to the last until they themselves are pulled to the gallows
      1. go to Offline go to
        go to (ira) 1 January 2023 20: 50
        0
        no, they just want to eat a fish and sit somewhere. And that doesn't happen.
    2. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
      soloist2424 (Oleg) 21 December 2022 10: 32
      -1
      I am sure that our leadership understands the situation, and more deeply than couch experts, if only because they have more information and the opportunity to consult with real experts. But trumpeting your plans so that people understand what they understand is stupid.
      1. sap Offline sap
        sap (Alex) 21 December 2022 13: 26
        +2
        But trumpeting your plans so that people understand what they understand is stupid.

        That's it! But it must be disappointing! They would certainly trumpet if there was anything! They do not trumpet because they really do not understand how to eat a fish in this situation and ... well, you know.
      2. zenion Offline zenion
        zenion (zinovy) 21 December 2022 17: 40
        -3
        One can have a lot of information without knowing what for and without knowing why. It was exactly the same with the crow, in a Caucasian way.

        One day God sent a piece of cheese to the crows. The raven has already climbed into the spruce and is about to have breakfast. To that misfortune, the frogs led the robber fox. The fox rushed away from the frogs and, seeing a breeze in the crow, began to intimidate the crows. Hey crow, there your wife has her boss. Kark? Raven opened his slurp and feta cheese in an instant, as if it had never happened. Give me back my cheese, you are a fool and a fool; I’ll complain to the wolf, he’ll pull the maza for me, he’ll bite you with an infection. I wanted to spit on you, so after eating the cheese, the fox ran away. The raven thought for a long time and the conclusion was made by such a fox deceived the frogs, so do not compete with the fox. Here is such a long sentence. End.
    3. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 23 December 2022 22: 08
      0
      Radvas, of course, neither the country nor our leadership understands anything. Some stupid people. The country chooses a moronic government. Did you come up with this yourself or did someone suggest it?
  4. radvas Offline radvas
    radvas (Igor) 21 December 2022 08: 50
    +4
    Enough of the peace. It is perceived as a weakness. The war has come.
  5. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 21 December 2022 09: 15
    +4
    the president, as in a well-known comedy - "maybe we will hit? ... it's too early ... it's too late"
  6. Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 21 December 2022 09: 15
    0
    It's worth the wait, it's not worth the wait... As the Kremlin decides, without looking back at others (as with the exchange of Medvedchuk and others), it will be so.
    In the articles they describe it as an SVU attack, but here they are "in strategic defense." So everything will be explained later...
  7. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 21 December 2022 10: 08
    +6
    Against the background of the past and future, possibly, mobilizations, quite natural tough questions arise for the Russian authorities regarding the methods / means of carrying out the so-called. CBO .. The notorious white gloves of the Kremlin .. Unwillingness to completely and completely stop the delivery of Western weapons to ukroreich. Why is Nazi Ukraine TOTALLY not deprived of electricity .. And many more sharp questions for the Kremlin and the Ministry of Defense ...
    1. Snail N9 Offline Snail N9
      Snail N9 (Snail) 23 December 2022 04: 09
      +1
      Maybe it's enough already, to indulge yourself with unrealizable hopes and it's time to call a spade a spade? And the sooner this is done, the sooner we will understand what, when and where it went wrong and how it can be corrected and what will be the price of this "correction", otherwise it may be quite late. If you carefully look at the situation, you get the impression that in fact, there is no such "optimistic" scenario. There is only: "pessimistic for Russia" and "pessimistic for the whole world."
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 23 December 2022 22: 14
      +1
      You, dear Cooper, do not ask sharp questions here on the forum, but go to the website of the president and the Moscow Region. And then it becomes scary from your sharp desires!
  8. calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich (Dmitriy) 21 December 2022 10: 09
    +3
    For the next mobilization, it is also necessary to prepare resources, so if there is an addition, then in small batches - as equipment, equipment, training of command personnel are produced. Modern warfare requires specialists in all levels - the private should also be a specialist.
  9. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 21 December 2022 10: 26
    +3
    in this connection, even the bombing of aircraft does not help to “smoke out” the Nazis from their holes.

    And then what are the Suns for? The use of this weapon in Mariupol and ... immediately ran into captivity to surrender. And there the fortifications also went underground for several floors. Maybe it's still a matter of unwillingness to end this CBO. Agree, ten months, and things are still there.

    then here the main task is to accumulate additional reserves with a possible transition to a counteroffensive in one of the directions.

    There were 20-30 thousand of our troops in Kherson, and yet they just took it and left! If this is not enough, then let our commanders say: "How much do they need?" If they need 2-3 times more than the APU, then why did they start this SVO at all? With such views, the entire General Staff should be fired, at least.

    Will there be a new mobilization?

    So she didn't stop. Literally yesterday, they were interested in me, they sent a summons for +50. He served in the missile forces. From what age are they removed from the register of the military registration and enlistment office? Our mediocrity themselves do not know what they need and how to complete the CBO. Elementary things cannot be calculated. Therefore, I am sure that there will be mobilization in 2023!
  10. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 21 December 2022 10: 48
    +5
    Victory in any war presupposes the defeat of the enemy army and peace on the terms of the winner.
    In the defeat of NATO and the world on the terms of the Russian Federation - denazification, demilitarization, non-advancement to the east, return to the borders of 1979 is somehow unbelievable, and therefore, most likely, negotiations and a postponed war.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 23 December 2022 22: 19
      0
      Jacguest, isn't a delayed war the same as a delayed pregnancy?
  11. Denis Z Offline Denis Z
    Denis Z (Denis Z) 21 December 2022 11: 01
    +2
    Air defense of Donetsk, Belgorod, Bryansk and Kursk, and all zones of their own, patted the author on the shoulder
  12. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
    Vox_Populi (vox populi) 21 December 2022 11: 07
    +2
    Victory at all costs

    Is it like a Pyrrhic victory?

    Avdiivka has long been in a semi-encirclement, but around the city itself for 8 years the enemy has built a powerful system of fortified areas. The fortifications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this sector of the front sometimes go underground for several floors, and therefore even air bombardment does not help to “smoke out” the Nazis from their holes

    The enemy, without any Maginot line, "simply" competently built a defense, using all available forces and means ...
  13. Rainy Offline Rainy
    Rainy 21 December 2022 11: 20
    +7
    Mobilization, even partial, even general, will not give anything but new deaths.
    And so it will be as long as the NWO is led by the faithful, and not by the literate. And while Russia itself is a strong rear for the West, continuing to supply it with resources.
    1. go to Offline go to
      go to (ira) 1 January 2023 20: 52
      0
      exactly. It's true.
  14. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 21 December 2022 11: 23
    +4
    Will there be a new mobilization?

    it will definitely be somewhere between March-June, in one of these months. Who will fight in the winter, they need a rotation, someone will get sick and will be commissioned, plus real losses, those who are tired of winter wars need rest. In April - May, they are supposed to change.
  15. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 21 December 2022 12: 30
    0
    Therefore, on the eve of the New Year, we propose to think about what form this operation will take in 2023 and what changes we can all expect.

    It is strange to me that the authors who ask such questions, what is called UPOR, do not see the forces of Poland and other NATO countries standing ready on the border with Ukraine, and on our borders too.
    Will we be allowed to build on our successes? And why then did they even start this story with Ukraine and Russia in the 90s? What are you gathering for now?
    I think we need to count completely different.
    The task of the Anglo-Saxons, who orchestrated all this, drag us into a war with Europe / NATO and smash us in itand received many other nice bonuses.
    Russia has already been "prepared" for this war by the hands of the comprador authorities - only that part of the economy and the army that is necessary for Russia to enter this war, weakening Europe with the blood of Russia and defeating Russia with the hands of Europe has been preserved. The comprador power will not allow the use of our nuclear weapons, which it itself regularly assures the enemy, speaking of its non-admission of a nuclear war.
    The Anglo-Saxons will only have to collect rich trophies - the resources and territory of Russia and the industry of Europe, which will fall under them without resistance. They will be able to use Russia's nuclear weapons to attack China from its territory, and the population - as "cannon fodder" against it.
    These are the views that the enemy can have on our NWO
    1. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 21 December 2022 14: 24
      0
      Quote: Alexey Davydov
      The Anglo-Sasons will only have to collect rich trophies - the resources and territory of Russia

      1 The Anglo-Saxons did not take resources and territories even in Iraq and Libya.
      2 In which case, the territories and resources of Siberia and the Far East are taken by China, it is much more convenient for him, and the United States cannot but understand this.
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 21 December 2022 15: 30
        -2
        The Anglo-Saxons did not take resources and territories even in Iraq and Libya.

        Iraq and Libya are another story. The Anglo-Saxons have plans for the entire continent of Eurasia. If they appropriate Europe, why should they leave the territory of Russia free, especially if they solve the "Russian question" in a clean manner?

        In which case, the territories and resources of Siberia and the Far East are taken by China, it is much more convenient for him, and the United States cannot but understand this.

        Of course, they understand this and build their plans and actions accordingly. Do not forget that apparently they have our power under control, and we have not yet ceased to be a nuclear power
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 23 December 2022 22: 25
      +1
      Alexey, when will you change the record about comprador power and other nonsense? On our borders, everything was started not in the 90s but in the 45s. You and History have a clear gap! Where did you study, were brought up by your history? Not in Russia most likely!
      1. Milana Shvetsova (Milana Shvetsova) 25 December 2022 15: 51
        0
        I grew up and was brought up in the USSR, but even I, an ignorant person, have absolutely reasonable questions. Is this an operation to solve problems in the country that won the Second World War? With SUCH weapons, which were touted in all parades? Where did you see "contractual" retreats in the war, correct "warnings", allowing NATO to send serious weapons into enemy territory without destroying the roads along which they come, while bombing not THESE roads, but residential areas in cities ... Me it is not clear why it was necessary to go to Kyiv, and then turn around and leave Kharkov in huge columns, which no one hit from the enemy??? How could the punishers be exchanged for Putin's godfather or the nephew of the chief Chechen? Start your own and then mobilize peaceful people who are completely unprepared for war, whose country no one attacked? And why, after 8 months of this, it turned out that there was nothing to equip the mobilized ??? / Nothing seems strange to you yourself ???
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  16. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 21 December 2022 12: 52
    +3
    At its core: the confrontation on the territory of Ukraine is a war of ideologies.
    And in this war, the Russian Federation lost completely!
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 21 December 2022 13: 09
      +2
      Quote from Mikhail L.
      At its core: the confrontation on the territory of Ukraine is a war of ideologies.
      And in this war, the Russian Federation lost completely!
      ... "Don't be offended, it's true. And you can't be offended by the truth, even if it's bitter."

      with such connections as now in the Kremlin, the loss was programmed from the very beginning, until these leaders’ hands are pulled to The Hague, they will puff out their fingers and spread their cheeks
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 23 December 2022 22: 47
        -1
        Rotkiv, why did our government not please you, or did it not please all the Ukronazis?
    2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 21 December 2022 13: 24
      -4
      And in this war, the Russian Federation lost completely!

      I know that you are from the enemy camp. Take your time - chickens are counted in the fall
      1. Mordvin 3 Offline Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 (Vladimir) 21 December 2022 13: 58
        +4
        Quote: Alexey Davydov
        do not count your chickens before they are hatched

        Winter is in the yard.
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      4. zenion Offline zenion
        zenion (zinovy) 21 December 2022 17: 29
        0
        If birds fly over the chickens, then you will not count the chickens at all. Chickens may disappear. We'll have to sit in the cellars on our eggs. Are you sure that you will be able to sit out what you want?
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  17. Nelton Offline Nelton
    Nelton (Oleg) 21 December 2022 14: 11
    0
    From my point of view, the confrontation will increasingly shift to the economy.
    After it has NOT collapsed within 10 months of sanctions, the long-term struggle begins.
    Accordingly, one should not demand to provide tactical tasks at the forefront "at any cost".
    It will turn into an undermining of the rear.
    Well, yes, the frontline zone must be evacuated, especially children.
    1. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 21 December 2022 17: 24
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      So after all, those who were supposed to support this war, with a heavy heart, laid it on the shoulders and stomach of the citizens of these countries. All the same, life is a tin, well, it’s in a swamp. At some times, Russians and Germans thought of fraternization. Now there are no people with brains, brains have been replaced by a computer. The creator of the computer said - until such a bad thing that it would execute any command of a complete idiot.
  18. mechanic Offline mechanic
    mechanic (Yuri) 21 December 2022 14: 25
    +7
    The authorities, out of desperation, can carry out as many mobilizations as they like - this will not change anything. People will rush abroad to hide, to sit out in the villages - the people do not understand what they should fight for.
    Those who wanted to volunteer have already left to fight.
    With such motivation, at least call for a million, it’s useless.
    The global mistake of the authorities was to attack first.
    If they claim that crests are about to attack Russia, well, they had to wait, and then respond properly.
    Then the motivation of the Russians would be completely different.
    And now this global error can no longer be corrected.
    Even if the authorities decide to return everything to the situation before February 2022, it won’t work anymore, they won’t push the pasta back into the tube, the West will demand that they give up Crimea and make a sea of ​​other concessions under the lure of gradual lifting of sanctions.
    The situation for us is actually a dead end, thanks to the authorities for their "smart decisions".
    It can save us only if something else more tragic happens in the world, which will shake the West to its foundations and it will simply not be up to us ...
    1. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 21 December 2022 14: 39
      +2
      Quote: Mechanic
      Even if the authorities decide to return everything to the situation before February 2022, it won’t work anymore, they won’t push the pasta back into the tube, the West will demand that they give up Crimea and make a sea of ​​other concessions under the lure of gradual lifting of sanctions.
      The situation for us is, in fact, a dead end.

      And what is characteristic, even if Crimea and a sea of ​​other concessions are given away, the most significant sanctions will still not be lifted.
      well, McDonald's will be back, and participation in the Champions League ...

      But that the situation is a dead end - I do not agree, and the way out is to Asia / Africa / Latin America.
      Asia is developing faster than Europe.
      The picture is a direct program for action :)

      1. Sergei Fonov Offline Sergei Fonov
        Sergei Fonov (sergey fonov) 21 December 2022 20: 26
        -1
        The road in the photo is excellent, but we are currently skidding in the Ukrainian mud when we get out and decide where to go.
    2. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 21 December 2022 17: 27
      +1
      If the west shakes, it will be good. But if he starts shaking Russia, it will be very bad. This will add to the shock that is already there, there will be a fall into Hell, and no heaven.
    3. Vlad Sirs Offline Vlad Sirs
      Vlad Sirs (Sirius NVL) 23 December 2022 07: 30
      -1
      It is customary to pay for mistakes, and Russia will also pay.
    4. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 24 December 2022 00: 01
      -1
      Mechanic, it was a global mistake of Stalin's authorities to allow Hitler to be the first to attack the USSR. No more fools! And now everything is correct and there are no mistakes, which means that nothing needs to be corrected until our (not your) victory is complete.
    5. go to Offline go to
      go to (ira) 1 January 2023 20: 54
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      Exactly, you should have waited.
  19. Vlad Sirs Offline Vlad Sirs
    Vlad Sirs (Sirius NVL) 21 December 2022 14: 53
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    Based on the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are becoming stronger every month, there are no military prospects for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in Ukraine. But this does not mean that the Russian army will ultimately not be able to complete tasks in the Donbass.
    It is very significant that the author no longer remembers the goals that were set in February 24th and considers it an optimistic scenario for the RF Armed Forces to move the Armed Forces of Ukraine away from Donetsk. The Kremlin is constantly trying to reach the BS, and if this fails at the beginning of the 23rd, then yes, another mobilization will have to be carried out, otherwise the defeat of the RF Armed Forces will be inevitable. By and large, Moscow's military prospects in Ukraine are pessimistic. The success of Kyiv in the south is also unlikely, but it is possible as the Armed Forces of Ukraine are saturated with units trained at the training grounds of Europe. In this conflict, everything is decided by high-precision weapons, if the West decides to give it to Ukraine in sufficient quantities, then the RF Armed Forces are guaranteed to be defeated sooner or later.
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 22 December 2022 15: 28
      +1
      High-precision weapons do not solve everything. Human resources are more important. A long bloody war is not ruled out. I think February will show the winner. And, I think, Ukraine has no chance if it does not enter into negotiations and does not lose part of the territories.
      1. Sergei Fonov Offline Sergei Fonov
        Sergei Fonov (sergey fonov) 22 December 2022 19: 28
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        It seems to me that if everything goes on in the NMD zone as it is now, then it will continue for another year, a year is enough for Europe to finally realize that the supply of weapons to Ukraine in the interests of the United States is a dead end path for the EU, cheap gas and oil reserves will come to an end in a year. The fatigue of the population from the deterioration of living conditions will play its role. Let's start negotiating on what conditions peace will be.
        1. go to Offline go to
          go to (ira) 1 January 2023 20: 55
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          dreamer.
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 24 December 2022 00: 21
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      Vlad, the defeat of the RF Armed Forces is impossible in principle. What language is this to be explained in? I explain in Russian because I don’t speak Surzhik. Russia is a nuclear power and that says it all. But you can dream of defeat, and you are not alone in dreaming about it. And nothing has changed. Kyiv, if it commits some thoughtless provocation with high-precision weapons of the West, can easily turn into ruins. Every patience has an end.
  20. Watching Offline Watching
    Watching (Alex) 22 December 2022 01: 19
    -1
    Quote: Maxim A
    Just business and nothing personal.

    What kind of business is this? CBO = business? Whose?
    1. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
      ivan2022 (ivan2022) 22 December 2022 08: 24
      0
      Not only SVO, but in general military operations.

      One day of SVO costs $ 1 billion. Or more. . Who is this money being paid to? Soldiers?

      These are supplies for the army... And not only. For example, during WWI, all of Russia wore boots that were not enough at the front ...
      This is the elimination of competitors by force. After all, many Russian companies were eliminated... And not only on the initiative of the West... Business knows no boundaries.
      Redistribution not on the scale of the group, but on the scale of the state is also a business.
      This is an opportunity to rob an entire country not without the participation of officials of this very country ....

      In general, if we found out who earned how much over the past year, it would be a sensation. The outflow of capital to the West has grown even according to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation - this is direct evidence that a gigantic business is being done.
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 24 December 2022 00: 29
        -1
        Wan monetary allowance for each soldier of the NWO per month is almost 300 rubles. But it seems to me that the lion's share is the smallest expense, most likely everything is for armament. If you think that they earn money in the war, then yes, the military-industrial complex enterprises and the workers who work for them also earn. But Vyshshsh not up tom? You need the aligarhs to make money on the war and on the blood of our soldiers, right? And where do you get these from?
  21. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 22 December 2022 12: 54
    +1
    What changes should we expect from the NWO in early 2023?

    It is impossible to defeat the enemy if the enemy is not named. Target not marked. There is no strategy. In tactics, extremes and shyness.
    Strategy without tactics is the slowest path to victory. Tactics without strategy is just hustle before defeat - Sun Tzu.
    There is no Law of the Russian Federation for conducting NWO in Ukraine, there is no Law that states that the territory of Ukraine is an integral part of the Russian Federation.
    It will be possible to predict victory only when the authorities of the Russian Federation legislate for the NWO in Ukraine the goal, strategy, tactics, tasks, stages and deadlines for implementation.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 24 December 2022 00: 37
      -2
      Vlad You obviously do not live in Russia otherwise you would not write such nonsense. Everything is defined and appointed, and tactics and strategy, and legally fixed, and the truth -

      Our cause is just and victory will be ours.

      If it's not entirely clear, I can simplify it further -

      Who will come to us with a sword from the sword and die.
      1. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
        vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 26 December 2022 00: 55
        0
        Dear Oleg Georgievich! If you know the legal documents: the laws of the Russian Federation or the Decrees of the President of the Russian Federation, in accordance with which the SVO is held in Ukraine, then write the name, number and date. Let's all honor together. Please do not refer to Art. 51 of Part 7 of the UN Charter, since it does not apply to the documents of the Russian Federation and is not binding. You can't defeat the enemy with slogans, you need something material.
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  22. Otto Davar Offline Otto Davar
    Otto Davar (Otto Davar) 23 December 2022 00: 24
    +1
    All ani panimat, adnaka do nothing nemagut.
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  24. Evgenii2311 Offline Evgenii2311
    Evgenii2311 (Eugene) 27 December 2022 12: 32
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    Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
    Vlad You obviously do not live in Russia otherwise you would not write such nonsense. Everything is defined and appointed, and tactics and strategy, and legally fixed, and the truth -

    Our cause is just and victory will be ours.

    If it's not entirely clear, I can simplify it further -

    Who will come to us with a sword from the sword and die.

    Ukraine also thinks so.
    1. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
      vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 27 December 2022 17: 39
      0
      Everything has a price, but what you should not expect is hasty victorious fanfare. Here is what they write.
      https://topwar.ru/206569-bol-i-nischeta-rossijskoj-artillerii.html
      Pain and poverty of Russian artillery
      The problem is that two armies clashed - one from the time of the First World War (this is Russian), the second - the level of the 1990 Gulf War. And alas, the second army really nightmares the first. And the first one cannot do anything about it, because the second army has a huge advantage: it sees farther and better, it exchanges information faster at all levels, it is more mobile.
      How to solve this problem in conditions when the comprador bourgeoisie governs the state?
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