"Finland could demand Vyborg": the Finns on the rearmament of the army


Finnish readers of the newspaper Helsingin Sanomat commented on the prospects for militarization of the country in the light of worsening relations with the Russian Federation. The reason was the publication, which mentions that Helsinki is purchasing an additional batch of South Korean K9 howitzers.


Original publication Suomi jatkaa aseostoja Venäjän hyökkäyssodan varjossa: Nyt ostoslistalla on liki 40 Moukaria. All opinions belong only to the Finnish citizens who expressed them on the Helsingin Sanomat website.

The comments of the users of the resource are presented selectively:

Of course, spending money on these purchases is not particularly pleasing to anyone. The geographical position of Finland as a neighbor of Russia is our national tragedy, for which we have had to pay more than once throughout the millennia of history. But as long as you can get by with money instead of blood, the burden is still bearable.

– said Jyri Hakola.

The enemy has begun to destroy the energy system of Ukraine. Can K-9 at least individually, at least all together, protect at least one transformer station. How many critical sections of the power grid can even the F-35s themselves protect against missiles?

Pasi Grönqvist comments.

Perhaps Finland could demand, if Russia collapses, something that she did not dare to demand before. To the very Lake Onega, Vyborg and other frontiers. But this is unlikely to happen. And yet Russia must suffer some kind of punishment for all its deeds.

harri rudanko replied.

These punishments have never been used in the past, I doubt if they will now. A million people died in Iraq, and no one was censured, let alone convicted. Even those who fled their country as a result of the conflict are considered "fake refugees". There is no world order based on any rules, and the strongest always survive

- responded to the previous comment ANTTI HEINO.

The most important thing is to be able to restore the infrastructure. The money invested in armaments is nothing compared to the importance of a reliable energy supply in a crisis. We need to move from centralized distribution of energy to decentralized and independent systems. There is no such joy in weapons if the people have no electricity and nothing works. There is no war where the infrastructure is not destroyed
said Pertti Massa.

Poland bought exactly the same K9 howitzers for 11 million euros apiece. Even if we are not going to replace all of our 800 guns in a one-to-one ratio, where will we get the money? Moreover, to pay everything exactly on time?

Jussi Koivisto was amazed.

Sad, really sad. The resources of Finland and humanity are wasted on madness, while we must fight for the survival of all humanity and the planet. I understand the reality, but this is not a reason for joy, but a great misfortune

Jukka Aalto states.
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  1. svit55 Offline svit55
    svit55 (Sergey Valentinovich) 15 December 2022 20: 44
    +2
    Helsingfors is a Russian city recaptured from the Swedes as a result of a righteous war by Peter the Great. Let's talk about who - to whom - how much ???
    1. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
      Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 16 December 2022 08: 39
      +2
      Yes, it’s as if Vyborg was founded by the Swedes ... finally, not only Lenin’s mines, but also the Romanov’s mines began to explode near Rossiyushka ... and the more concerns we express with concern, but to appoint open enemies like a Mannerheim admirer as negotiators, the more these mines will explode...

      with such a policy, it will soon reach the mines of the Vyatichi, louder and the Drevlyans ... and there it will reach the mines of the mammoths
    2. Ivanovich 1960 Offline Ivanovich 1960
      Ivanovich 1960 17 December 2022 13: 26
      +1
      You can still estimate in the accounts the price of independence in 1918 and not occupation in 1945.
  2. In passing Offline In passing
    In passing (Galina Rožkova) 15 December 2022 20: 52
    +5
    But who considered the people of Suomi to be people under the Swedes? Hmm, now they’re rolling out their lip to Vyborg, giants ..
    1. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
      Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 16 December 2022 08: 34
      +3
      I want to remind you that a certain Mannerheim was the first to roll out his lips there ... and wasn’t a monument opened to this character in St. Petersburg? and didn't someone Medinsky do it? and was it not someone Medinsky then surrendered the interests of the Russian Federation in Istanbul, as a result of which there was a "gesture of good will" ...
  3. Joker62 Offline Joker62
    Joker62 (Ivan) 16 December 2022 02: 33
    +1
    Finland could demand Vyborg

    It's time for the Finns to issue all accounts, starting from the time of Peter I and ending with the Second World War. Well, plus for the failure of the contract with RosAtom.
    1. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
      Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 16 December 2022 08: 36
      +2
      and we will instruct Medinsky to issue an invoice ??? the one who opened the board to Mannerheim? the same Mannerheim who swore an oath to the sword and promised not to end the fight until part of Soviet Karelia returned to Finland ??? well, yes, with such accountants, it’s as if the Finno-Ugric Izhevsk cannot be returned to the bosom of its native Finland ...
  4. Vyborg for you? Do you want anything else?
  5. prior Offline prior
    prior (Vlad) 16 December 2022 09: 42
    +3
    What about chicks?!
    Now even Jordan closes the skies for Russian aircraft.
  6. Breard Offline Breard
    Breard (Serg) 16 December 2022 10: 29
    0
    It will be so!
  7. Rust1981 Offline Rust1981
    Rust1981 (R) 16 December 2022 22: 00
    -1
    The last comment is the most relevant
  8. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 17 December 2022 00: 02
    +1
    When a bear fights off a pack of a whole zoo of predatory animals, various jackals and coyotes become bolder and look closely to chop off a tuft of fur from the bear. The big fight will end, the bear will catch his breath and the jackals and coyotes will have to answer ...
  9. Fizik13 Offline Fizik13
    Fizik13 (Alexey) 18 December 2022 12: 16
    0
    "Finland could demand Vyborg": the Finns on the rearmament of the army

    Now who will give it to them? But Shevardnadze could...
  10. cold weather Offline cold weather
    cold weather (Anatoly) 19 December 2022 12: 08
    0
    The geographical position of Finland as a neighbor of Russia is our national tragedy, for which we have had to pay more than once throughout the millennia of history.

    Well, now the Finnopithecus have also appeared! The author of the quote did not even hint about the Swedes.
  11. lance is gone Offline lance is gone
    lance is gone (lance) 19 December 2022 16: 26
    0
    and in my opinion, when bedbugs prevent a neighbor from living in peace, there is nothing to think about why it is so good for a neighbor. Finns have forgotten the lessons of good neighborliness? remind not long, but now you have to pay for it
  12. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 19 December 2022 16: 56
    +1
    In accordance with the Nystadt peace treaty, take the territory of old Finland, because. Russia paid money to Sweden for it.
  13. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 19 December 2022 17: 26
    0
    perhaps Finland could demand

    She can't ask for anything. She unilaterally withdrew from the Russian Empire without settling all land disputes. Taking at the same time the lands transferred to her by the royal rulers.
  14. Watching Offline Watching
    Watching (Alex) 19 December 2022 18: 55
    -1
    Quote: svit55
    Helsingfors Russian city recaptured from the Swedes

    Dear, don't talk nonsense. Helsingfors "Russian city"?! Do you even understand the meaning of his name in Swedish? The city of Helsingfors (Helsing Stream), like all the cities of today's Finland in general, was founded and built by Swedish settlers during the expansion to the east. The Finns themselves did not have any cities, they had wigwams in the forests, like the Indians. Finland was taken from Sweden after the defeat of Napoleon, whose ally was Sweden, and Russia received it. Russians have never built anything in Finland. Just like Vyborg is a Swedish city.
  15. Opozdavshiy Offline Opozdavshiy
    Opozdavshiy (Sergei) 24 December 2022 03: 07
    0
    The most important thing in politics and in life is one and the same. This, sorry, decency.
    The Ukrainians were told if you want to leave Russia, leave. But with what you came to Russia, you leave with that.
    No, they decided that since it is beneficial for the West to trample on Russia, then they will break off to tear off Russian lands from Russia .. So it has broken off - they get hit by the ears.
    Nobody threatened the Finns with anything. Nothing but European show off behind their claims to Russia and joining NATO is simply not worth it. If they don't stop in time, they'll also hit their ears. I don’t even remember the Baltic states at all. Behind all this is always banal dishonesty and ingratitude.
    It can be talked about. But civilization has its own laws, and therefore Russians always come back for their own. This is not what the Russians need. This is what civilization needs.
    Little dirty tricks on history. do not do.
  16. Opozdavshiy Offline Opozdavshiy
    Opozdavshiy (Sergei) 24 December 2022 03: 20
    0
    Quote: Watching
    Russians have never built anything in Finland. Just like Vyborg is a Swedish city.

    You're right. Both Helsingfolrs and Vyborg were built by the Swedes and became Russian cities as a result of the war and Russia's victory over Sweden. Excuse me, where are the Finns?
    Brothel contingent demands sovereignty?
    Well, well.