Medvedev explained why Vucic criticized Russia


Against the backdrop of ongoing harassment Serbs in Kosovo, Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic recalled the recent statement by former German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who admitted that the Minsk agreements were needed by the West only to buy time for Ukraine to confront Russia later. Vucic commented on what Merkel said, indicating that he knows who should not be trusted now.


And here the question arises: how far we, as a small country, can hold out. If they could play with someone who is much stronger than us, lie and deceive a country like the Russian Federation, use the time to arm in order to prepare a great defeat for the Russian Federation militarily. It is so strange to me that the Russian special services did not know, it is unbelievable that they were so irresponsible not to see this. And so unprepared to get involved in all this. This changes a lot for me. But don't completely compare our situation to theirs. This will be a lesson to us. But this time since 2012-2013 (the signing of the Brussels agreements - ed.), if you ask me - we used much better

Vucic said.

In turn, on December 11, a Russian journalist, vice speaker of the Moscow City Duma Andrey Medvedev reacted to Vučić's words. He noted that the Serbian leader, speaking about the poor preparation of the Russian Federation for the NWO in Ukraine and Moscow's gullibility towards the West, surprised many Russians who perceived Serbia as an ally, not as a critic.

But these words - unpleasant for many of our turbo-patriots - are quite understandable. No reasonable Serbian policywho would not share the idea of ​​the irredenta (reunification of territories with the titular state, where a certain ethnic group is in the majority - ed.)

- Medved wrote in his Telegram channel.

He stressed that in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia or in the SFRY, the Serbs were the state-forming nation. At the same time, the authorities strangled "Serbian nationalism." Thus, the same thing happened with the Serbs in the Balkans as with the Russians in the USSR.

And when Yugoslavia began to fall apart, the Serbs tried to preserve their traditional territories (Serbian Krajina in Croatia). It's as if the Russians in 91 tried to keep South Siberia and Semirechie as part of Russia. The Serbs lost almost everywhere, and the last thing that was taken from them was Kosovo. Place of military glory, the place where Serbian Orthodoxy was born, where the first book in Serbian was printed

– said Medvedev.

At the same time, almost all the leaders of Serbia wanted to return Kosovo. Vučić, of course, is one of those, and he thought that Moscow, and maybe even Beijing, would support Belgrade in this matter.

Even the pro-Western Tadic, in a personal conversation, with the camera turned off, carefully told me that the Kosovo issue would have to be resolved, most likely, by force

Medvedev shared his information.

Now Vucic has realized that the Russian Federation will not help him not only in the Kosovo issue. At the same time, Serbia found itself in an extremely difficult situation.

And he has a war in his yard. More precisely, the situation when one must either surrender completely, or fight, but kill oneself about NATO and Kosovo. Shame, or defeat and shame. Great choice, right? Vučić's disappointment is from here

Medvedev stressed.

According to Medvedev, the current situation is likely to become a starting point for the general disappointment of the Serbs in relation to Russia. Unfortunately, everything will now be remembered to Moscow, including a minimal information, cultural and other presence in the Balkans.

I will be very happy to be wrong. But I still understand a little about the nature of the Serbs. No, Serbs will not treat Russians or Russia worse. But the attitude towards Russia, as a political entity, will change

– summed up Medvedev.
42 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
    Paul3390 (Paul) 11 December 2022 20: 52
    +13
    It is so strange to me that the Russian special services did not know, it is unbelievable that they were so irresponsible not to see this.

    This is not only Vucic strange. I think - to put it mildly, it is strange for the entire population of Russia .. Because the choice is small. Either all of us at the top are completely clinical imbeciles, since they fell for such golimous bullshit, or outright traitors, or the special services of the Russian Federation do not work for Russia at all. Does anyone have a fourth option? Not? And I don't. Because there is no other way to explain what happened. At least crack.

    But any of the three is, frankly, scary ... In terms of its consequences.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Huzhzhu Offline Huzhzhu
      Huzhzhu (Tamara) 11 December 2022 22: 16
      -5
      What's incomprehensible here? Or did you prefer that the Russian Federation got involved in a war with Ukraine 8 years ago?! Have you thought about sanctions? And how to prepare for them in order to minimize the consequences? Was our military-industrial complex 8 years ago prepared in the same way as it is now? Not to mention the fact that the mood of the inhabitants of Donbass was completely different than that of the Crimeans (I know this for sure). And the last thing: why does everyone think that our relevant bodies are obliged to report everything to you all?!
      1. Cetron Offline Cetron
        Cetron (Peteris) 11 December 2022 22: 56
        +11
        And now the military-industrial complex of Russia is prepared for war? Rusty Kalash, removal from storage of the T-62, artillery from the Second World War, lack of communications, intelligence, military air defense. Not ready for war with drones! There are not enough uniforms even for 300000 mobilized: volunteers buy helmets and armor, gloves, berets, underwear, and collect food. Ready for a nuclear war?? Khokhols have deceived the base of strategic bombers ...
        They are not ready for counter-battery combat: there is no precision-guided munitions (or very few), space reconnaissance is absent as a class. Were the people ready for war? Those who escaped are an order of magnitude more mobilized. Lost the informational, ideological war...
        1. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
          Paul3390 (Paul) 12 December 2022 10: 46
          +1
          volunteers buy helmets and armor, gloves, berets, underwear, collect food

          Look, what an interesting thing - volunteers buy ... So - the country has all this, only the RF Ministry of Defense does not have it? The question immediately arises - how did it happen that there is equipment on the market, but not in army warehouses?
          1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
            k7k8 (vic) 12 December 2022 14: 13
            +1
            Quote from Paul3390
            how did it happen that there is equipment on the market, but not in army warehouses?

            Everything is in stock. That's just a lot of people do not like what they are given. Although, as a result, many cases were recorded when mobilized people throw away their purchased and use regular clothing. From what volunteers bring, only underwear is mainly suitable for use in the army. The stores sell airsoft / hunting / sports equipment, which, in terms of workmanship, did not even stand next to army uniforms.
      2. Andrey Andreev_2 (Andrey Andreev) 12 December 2022 03: 01
        +4
        A huge mistake of our politicians was that, thanks to the exhortation of the West, hostilities were stopped in 2014, when the Donbass went to Kyiv ... The LDNR, with the support of volunteers, would have decided everything themselves !!!
      3. Yuri Nemov Offline Yuri Nemov
        Yuri Nemov (Yuri Nemov) 12 December 2022 09: 37
        +5
        Merkel herself admitted that 8 years ago, even the militias could have reached Kyiv and overthrow the illegal government, and NATO could not have done anything. So YES, 8 years ago Ukraine could be taken with bare hands. And we still received sanctions, but now we would have all of Ukraine, intact and taken with virtually no losses.
      4. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
        Paul3390 (Paul) 12 December 2022 10: 43
        +2
        And you thought what the Armed Forces of Ukraine were like 8 years ago? And how did the population treat Banderlogs? As for the sanctions - sorry, we had an absolutely legitimate president of Ukraine in our hands, at whose request it was possible to send troops. Are you sure that in such a scenario, as many countries as now would join the sanctions? Why was it necessary to introduce them - after all, all our actions would have been legal further nowhere!
      5. Valera75 Offline Valera75
        Valera75 (Valery) 12 December 2022 19: 18
        0
        Quote: Buzz
        What's incomprehensible here? Or did you prefer that the Russian Federation got involved in a war with Ukraine 8 years ago?! Have you thought about sanctions? And how to prepare for them in order to minimize the consequences? Was our military-industrial complex 8 years ago prepared in the same way as it is now? Not to mention the fact that the mood of the inhabitants of Donbass was completely different than that of the Crimeans (I know this for sure). And the last thing: why does everyone think that our relevant bodies are obliged to report everything to you all?!

        8 years ago there was no army of Ukraine as it is now, many, I'm sure, would have come over to our side, would have surrendered more often and faster. Let's skip this and see what we have prepared for in 8 years?
        1: they couldn’t dress 300 tons of mobilized. Volunteers collect and buy hundreds of millions of rubles from UAVs to socks for soldiers, and the governors and the people of Russia dress them, cars (jeeps, gazelles, loaves) go there in columns.
        2: the reason why they called for 300 tons of mobilized? Because the regular army did not fulfill its assigned tasks, which means it was not ready and, in fact, it simply does not exist, it is not enough to complete the tasks
        3: We are fighting 50 percent for sure with Soviet weapons.
        4: Sanctions were already for Crimea, they would hardly have been stronger, since the West itself was not as united as it is today.
        5: As the first days of the NWO showed, the leadership relied on local aligarhs and other influential pro-Russian Ukrainians, and it turned out to be a complete failure.
        What are we preparing for?
    3. In passing Offline In passing
      In passing (Galina Rožkova) 11 December 2022 22: 27
      +2
      The explanation is from Abramovich with his iPhones to the Azov people.
    4. Kuramori Reika Offline Kuramori Reika
      Kuramori Reika (Kuramori Reika) 12 December 2022 13: 49
      +1
      I think Putin just believed and still believes in fairy tales and unicorns. Reminds me of Gorbachev squared.
  2. In passing Offline In passing
    In passing (Galina Rožkova) 11 December 2022 21: 12
    0
    Putin wrote the Minsk text "on his knee". Has anyone suggested a better one? Well, no one in the Russian politicum wanted to deal with Ukraine, even the Crimea turned out almost spontaneously. All thirty years Ukraine-not-Russia. They just clapped their ears, and they beat flies in the embassy, ​​but the Russian ambassador got along with Poroshenko. Well, the Serbs have already decided to go to the EU, then go, with all the attendants. Russia cannot rake up everyone's problems, and then quietly get out.
  3. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 December 2022 21: 35
    +8
    A disgrace.
    Vučić told his bitter truth and he can be understood. Hopes for Russia have come to a complete bankruptcy, probably for many of our other friends and partners. Similarly, our own hopes for power collapsed.
    We have lived to the point that our friends are beginning to talk about it openly.
    It is impossible for decades in a respectable suit to surrender the positions of one's own country to the enemy without leaving traces in the form of absurdities and wild inconsistencies that cause accumulating misunderstanding among one's own people and contempt of strategic partners. One can imagine for whom China is holding us now, probably still hoping that the mind of the people of Russia will win, and they will save their country, return to themselves and her perspective and future
    1. Huzhzhu Offline Huzhzhu
      Huzhzhu (Tamara) 11 December 2022 22: 19
      -8
      ... that the mind of the people of Russia will win, and he will save his country, return to himself and her perspective and future ...

      What are you calling for, my friend?! It smacks of extremism, however, you are our "patriotic" ...
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 December 2022 22: 29
        +5
        What are you calling for, my friend?!

        As he wrote - to the salvation of Russia. This is extremism in your language. Apparently you think in English
  4. The comment was deleted.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 December 2022 22: 06
      +3
      NATO near Pskov and St. Petersburg did not interfere for 30 years, but here you are.

      War is already guaranteed to us by the government, which has surrendered our positions to the enemy in 30 years. The Anglo-Saxons want to destroy us and are ready for it.
      The question is, what will it be?
      - the destruction of Russia in the "meat grinder" of the war with Ukraine and NATO, planned by the Anglo-Saxons, which is still being implemented in practice
      or
      - forcing the Anglo-Saxons by the threat of their destruction to stop their "meat grinder", retreat and recall their entire gang,
      1. Huzhzhu Offline Huzhzhu
        Huzhzhu (Tamara) 11 December 2022 22: 24
        -6
        And you, my dear, which option is more acceptable?
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 December 2022 22: 45
          +6
          And you, my dear, which option is more acceptable?

          I accept the option:
          forcing the Anglo-Saxons by the threat of their destruction to stop their "meat grinder", retreat and recall their entire gang - this is understandable.
  5. Vlad Sirs Offline Vlad Sirs
    Vlad Sirs (Sirius NVL) 11 December 2022 22: 11
    -3
    The Serbs made a bet on Moscow many years ago and lost. Nothing can be done, this is the world, it was necessary to bet on a strong geopolitical player, to negotiate with him on Kosovo.
    1. In passing Offline In passing
      In passing (Galina Rožkova) 11 December 2022 22: 23
      +2
      The Serbs have staked on the EU. And the second chair is Russian raw materials. The march to Slatina ended it all.
    2. Hayer31 Offline Hayer31
      Hayer31 (Kashchei) 11 December 2022 22: 35
      +1
      Not only the Serbs bet on Russia, the Armenians too,
      1. 1_2 Offline 1_2
        1_2 (Ducks are flying) 11 December 2022 23: 35
        +1
        Armenians? who erected a monument to ABVER agent Nzhdeh?
      2. In passing Offline In passing
        In passing (Galina Rožkova) 12 December 2022 01: 37
        +4
        Oh, Armenians, they did not recognize Artsakh. Pashinyan "licked" Europe, grimaced at Russia, signed everything for Aliyeva. Should Russia do something for the Armenians? More than the Armenians themselves?
        1. Vlad Sirs Offline Vlad Sirs
          Vlad Sirs (Sirius NVL) 12 December 2022 06: 13
          -1
          Yes, that's right, seeing the weakness of the Russian Federation, Armenia is looking for other opportunities to ensure its security and development, but how else?
  6. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 11 December 2022 22: 43
    +3
    Creatures in the power of all who can be betrayed! On all of us army! Money, power, at any cost. They will step over all of us. The corpses of Russian children are dust and dirt for them.
    God, God, poor Russia. Don't people have any power?
  7. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 11 December 2022 23: 43
    +4
    Vučić wants to justify himself before the future capitulation, the recognition of Kosovo, so they say if the West brought a large nuclear Russian Federation to its knees (confiscated 350 billion gold reserves, plus 300-600 billion Russian oligarchs, bureaucrats, bandits.), blew up SP2, destroyed Soviet monuments to soldiers, almost stopped Russian industry, having stopped the supply of complex components ... then we "Lilliputian Serbs" have no choice but to surrender and enter the EU
    1. Vlad Sirs Offline Vlad Sirs
      Vlad Sirs (Sirius NVL) 12 December 2022 06: 16
      -1
      Naturally, he wants to explain to the people why he will have to make decisions that are painful for Serbia, do you think he should abandon the army against NATO and destroy Serbia completely?
  8. Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) 11 December 2022 23: 47
    +3
    Perhaps Merkel did not just say what she said about the Minsk agreements. Perhaps she just tried to create a resonance with this, so that it would be discussed and quoted. Other reasons for making such "confessions" are hard to find.

    Only if this is not a general attack on the topic of "negotiations" through the discrediting of one side - like it will still be a deception, that's how it works with us. Then this may be an attempt to force Russia (through the pressure of the patriots and the army) to complete the NWO by military force (and preferably quickly). This is what the West has been trying to achieve from the very beginning.

    Be that as it may, the position of Germany and France and everyone else on the continent in the context of the "negotiations" does not bother Russia at all. The only scenario where the EU countries can somehow influence something is their significant pressure on Kyiv by reducing aid.

    Otherwise, negotiations are possible only between the US and Russia. The EU (or Germany, France) must earn its right to vote.
  9. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 12 December 2022 00: 05
    +4
    this Medvedev, to put it mildly, is not a smart person or is simply licking the backside of the authorities, Vucic is 200% right and everything he said is incomprehensible to normal people, the only exception is pro-Putins and those who cheer them up
  10. Watching Offline Watching
    Watching (Alex) 12 December 2022 10: 04
    +1
    Serbian frustration with Russia is completely understandable. A small country surrounded by NATO (and sworn enemies: Albanians, Croats), and the only strategic "friend" is far away and always up to his ears in problems. What to do? And what to do, how not to lick the boot of NATO / EU and become their member, what else? And Russia is losing the only potential foothold in the Balkans. But such blindness (or laziness) is common in the Kremlin.
  11. gene1 Offline gene1
    gene1 (Gennady) 12 December 2022 10: 38
    -1
    Merkel said this so that Vučić, feigning noble anger, jumped off.
    It broke three weeks ago. The West has now simply played along to save face.
  12. gene1 Offline gene1
    gene1 (Gennady) 12 December 2022 10: 41
    0
    Lord, except for indignation, I did not see a single point, what kind of assistance the Russian Federation should provide to Serbia. Here right now to render?
    1. Vlad Sirs Offline Vlad Sirs
      Vlad Sirs (Sirius NVL) 12 December 2022 16: 23
      0
      It doesn't HAVE to, but it could. You won't see these items because they don't exist. Moscow cannot put pressure on the United States, cannot provide military support, cannot offer any development prospects. Serbs should forget about the Russian Federation and look for new alliances based on reality.
      1. gene1 Offline gene1
        gene1 (Gennady) 12 December 2022 20: 08
        0
        Serbs should forget about the Russian Federation and look for new alliances based on reality.

        The Russian is not the one who is waiting for help from Russia, but the one who himself thinks how to help her

        One of the saints said this.

        "Based on reality", well, if you give such realistic advice, do you belong to the Russian world?
  13. DVF Offline DVF
    DVF (Denis) 12 December 2022 11: 45
    +2
    Yes, everyone perfectly understood that the Minsk agreements were complete bullshit. I even felt a little sorry for our president: oh, Merkel deceived me, how bad she is. It feels like people are considered sheep.
  14. Kuramori Reika Offline Kuramori Reika
    Kuramori Reika (Kuramori Reika) 12 December 2022 13: 55
    +3
    For 8 years, we could also prepare for war, but what have we done during this time? They fattened Shoigu, ROSTEKH did not produce ammunition for years to come, and all the new equipment remained at all sorts of exhibitions. We didn't even blow Abramovich and his family to pieces to remind the rest that they would be taken everywhere. Power in Russia belongs to soft-bodied, cowardly old men.
  15. k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 12 December 2022 14: 05
    +4
    many Russians who saw Serbia as an ally rather than a critic

    And what, if an ally, is not subject to criticism? Or Russia in the face of its leadership cannot be criticized in principle? Perhaps many of Russia's troubles are that she considers criticism (even constructive) an enemy attack?
  16. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 12 December 2022 15: 06
    -1
    Vučić supported Russia only with language and the purchase of cheap gas. And he also promised EU and NATO accession and friendship, but so far asked them not to talk about it.
  17. basilchurikov Offline basilchurikov
    basilchurikov (vasily churikov) 12 December 2022 18: 22
    +2
    Medvedev, you are wrong. Vucic told the truth about the preparation of our leadership for the NWO. These 9 months have shown everything.
  18. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 12 December 2022 19: 34
    +1
    What scares me is that, no matter how the Anglo-Saxons get in here, most of all the Americans, maybe even without the British. America has problems above the roof and they either need to put out a revolution in their country or it’s better to create a distracting war somewhere and win there. suits, they will only have to come up with a reason why it became bad to live in America because of the Serbs, well, here they are masters of their craft. Well, at the same time, destroy several million Slavs and disperse the rest as refugees across Europe.
  19. Smirnoff Offline Smirnoff
    Smirnoff (Victor) 12 December 2022 19: 43
    +1
    ... why did Vučić criticize Russia???

    - Vucic did not understand the whole essence of the historical emergence of Minsk and its failure. Minsk was necessary, and the fact that the terrorists did not comply with it is not Russia's fault. Russia did everything right.
    - You can compare the two situations in terms of NOT IMPLEMENTING the agreements coming out by terrorists and terrorists of Kosovo. The United States banned, and it's coming out to terrorists, and Kosovo terrorists. Kosovo is completely under the control of the United States, and it was the United States that gave the go-ahead to the Kosovars to fight against Serbia, in violation of all agreements.

    - Russia answered for itself and defended the Donbass, and the referendum gave the inhabitants the right to become part of Russia.
    - It's time for Serbia to answer for itself. Without understanding the Russian situation, it would not be the right decision to criticize. This will not help the Serbian cause.
    - Only help from Russia will help Serbia. You need to apply now and don't delay.
    The first is to hold a referendum on joining Russia, and the second is to protect the Serbs from the Kosovo terrorists.
    Only the implementation of these two main points will help Serbia to resist the US, NATO and Kosovo terrorists.
  20. zloybond Offline zloybond
    zloybond (steppenwolf) 17 December 2022 17: 52
    0
    Vučić directly, without hesitation, pointed to the special services. I don't see, I don't hear, I don't say. After the start of the SVO in Ukraine, it turned out that there was no trained underground, in general, the work of the special services, which made it possible to deceive Russia more than once Vučić, is strange.