First shots fired in Kosovo: Serbia asks for NATO permission to send its army

December 11 2022 57

Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic intends to ask the NATO mission for permission to send units of Serbian security forces to Kosovo. This became known after another aggravation of the situation between Belgrade and Pristina.

Another round of escalation of the conflict occurred after the arrest of Serbian police officer Dejan Pantic by Albanian security forces. They accuse a Serbian law enforcement officer of attacking Kosovo police officers. Almost immediately after this incident, the Serbs in the north of Kosovo and Metohija began to build barricades. And in several settlements there were skirmishes.

In this regard, the President of Serbia delivered an address to the nation, in which he condemned the intention of Pristina to apply for EU membership. According to Vučić, only European countries, which Kosovo is not, can join the EU.

In addition, Aleksandar Vucic said that he would send a request to the NATO mission for the deployment of Serbian army and police units in Kosovo in accordance with the provisions of the UN Security Council resolution.

According to Western news agencies, this document says that Serbia can send up to a thousand military, police and customs officers to Orthodox religious sites, areas with a predominance of the Serbian population and border crossings. True, such a deployment must be approved by the KFOR commander.

Recall that the Serbian Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija declared independence unilaterally in February 2008. Against the recognition of Kosovo are Russia, China, India, and 57 other states, including five EU member states.

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Bakht

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11 December 2022 11: 55

Vučić is either an optimist or inadequate. What is the resolution? My opinion is that he is an idiot.
1. Alexey Davydov
  
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  11 December 2022 12: 19
  
  Realist. He needs to show his people he's doing his best
  1. Bakht
    
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    11 December 2022 12: 43
    
    His course is accession to the EU and NATO. And getting resources from Russia. So let the EU help him. The position of the EU on the Kosovo problem is the separation of Kosovo from Serbia. What kind of realist is he?
    What does Russia care about the problems of Kosovo? Serbia can be helped only in one case. If Serbia helps itself.
    1. Alexey Davydov
      
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      11 December 2022 13: 11
      
      The realist is that he leaves himself both ways. The path of resistance to the Anglo-Saxons and the West involves relying on the Slavic world. If the Anglo-Saxons now finish off Russia, the Slavic civilization will disappear, there will be another world. This is the second way - full integration into Western civilization. He rules not a superpower.
      We need to think about how to save ourselves. We will defend - Serbia will have support in the Slavic world. Together with China, we will revive the world socialist system - there will be an alternative to the Anglo-Saxons for all mankind
      1. Bakht
        
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        11 December 2022 13: 47
        
        In my understanding, realism is that integration with the West means the disappearance of the Slavic world. If a person follows this path, then this is his choice. And I don't see any alternative.
        
        Alexey Davydov
        
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        11 December 2022 14: 18
        
        In my understanding, realism is that integration with the West means the disappearance of the Slavic world.
        
        And that Serbia should disappear if Russia cannot or does not want to survive, and the Slavic world will disappear from this? This is a question for us, not for them. It is we who have not hit a finger on a finger so far in order to survive, and we are looking for the guilty around us.
        
        If a person follows this path, then this is his choice. And I don't see any alternative.
        
        I completely agree. If a person has chosen something, the alternative immediately disappears by itself.
        
        Bakht
        
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        11 December 2022 14: 26
        
        If Russia loses, then the Slavic world will disappear.
        
        Alexey Davydov
        
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        11 December 2022 14: 51
        
        Conclusion - everyone save Russia? It's unrealistic.
        We will have to save ourselves. And you have to take it, in the end !!!!!
        
        Bakht
        
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        11 December 2022 15: 02
        
        Why is this such a conclusion?
        Initially, I wrote that Vucic made the wrong choice. Serbia will lose Kosovo. There are no other options in this case.
        
        As for Russia, I think that the matter must be taken seriously. Or don't take it at all. We can only talk about the Patriotic War. What K. Zatulin has been talking about since the spring of this year. And I completely agree with him. From today's Peskov
        
        "No one loves us and is not going to love us much. And we don't need it," he said, speaking about the collective West in an interview with journalist Pavel Zarubin.
        
        Vladimir80
        
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        12 December 2022 12: 10
        
        the Slavic world will disappear
        
        - Who is the Slavic world? Okraintsy, Poles, Czechs, Croats, Slovaks? you still need to look for such enemies, maybe for the better if they disappear ...
        
        Bakht
        
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        12 December 2022 13: 19
        
        Are you considering nationality or mentality? Do they belong to the Slavic world?
        
        The term "Russian civilization" was used by Toynbee in his book Comprehension of History. According to the concept of challenge and response set out in this book, different civilizations throughout their history have to face one or another challenge. If they can give a decent answer to them, then they will survive and continue to develop; if they fail, they will perish.
        
        It is not the first time for the West to destroy civilizations. This does not mean that the entire population is destroyed. People continue to live in this area. But there is a reformatting of consciousness. Orthodoxy serves as the basis of Russian civilization. The nationalities you listed have long since adopted Catholicism. You can now see the reformatting of consciousness in Ukraine. Can you attribute Ukrainians to the Russian world?
        
        Alexey Davydov
        
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        13 December 2022 18: 58
        
        It is not the first time for the West to destroy civilizations. This does not mean that the entire population is destroyed. People continue to live in this area. But there is a reformatting of consciousness.
        
        Here the topic of what will happen to Russia itself, if it does not force the Anglo-Saxons to retreat, directly "penetrates".
        So, Bakhtiyar, I think that the reformatted consciousness and bad beer in the pubs of the country conquered by the enemy do not threaten us. I repeat:
        The stages of the Anglo-Saxon plan seem to be:
        - Russia's military operation in Ukraine and its final dehumanization as a result of the mass death of civilians
        - drawing Poland and NATO countries into this war
        - exsanguination of Russia and its surrender
        - appropriation of its resources and the destruction of that part of the population of conquered Russia that cannot be used as "cannon fodder" in further operations
        - appropriation of property and industry weakened by the war of Europe
        - hunting for immigrants from Russia and rewriting history
        After the defeat of Russia, the Anglo-Saxons will most likely redirect our nuclear forces to China and attack it from our territory.
        The remaining population of Russia will be used by the Anglo-Saxons against China as "cannon fodder". They will do to him the same thing they did to the people of Ukraine. The instrument of coercion will no longer be deceit, but the threat of destruction.
        The process of turning Russia into an instrument of Evil, begun by the Anglo-Saxons in Ukraine, and continued by the war between Russia and Europe, will thus be fully completed.
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 December 2022 19: 21
        
        The process of turning Russia into an instrument of Evil....
        
        To be honest, I don't quite understand your text. These horror movies are only possible if Russia loses. I believe that this will not happen. But conditions are needed for victory. Need order #227.
        
        Alexey Davydov
        
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        13 December 2022 19: 33
        
        Order #227 needed
        
        Order "Not a step back." In Ukraine. Will it save us?
        So...
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 December 2022 20: 07
        
        I do not impose. Just an excerpt from a 2005 text. Note, nothing more
        
        America is our absolute enemy. Western civilization is deadly for our historical path. The "commercial system", the "Carthaginian order" is not compatible with our Roman heritage. The question - for the umpteenth time in history - is posed very harshly - "Either they or we." As long as we exist, they will not be able to sleep peacefully. While they are walking, we do not have, there cannot be not a minute of free time.
        "America is our enemy." This is a modern analogue of Cato's phrase. "Carthage must be destroyed." This should be repeated at every officers' meeting, at every military school, at every military conference. This formula must be stubbornly repeated in all the reports of the army leadership to the political authorities. This is the message - "America is our enemy" - the message that the army must convey to everyone, in any way. Doubt can be everywhere. But not in this. This is the absolute. Only a degenerate or a traitor can deny it.
        
        Alexey Davydov
        
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        13 December 2022 20: 48
        
        To be honest, I don't quite understand your text.
        
        The meaning is simple - Russia, without opposing anything to the Anglo-Saxons themselves, thereby becoming their tool (the tool of Evil) in Europe, and then - in China.
        Even in Ukraine, the war crosses the border of our own morality. For the sake of effectiveness of actions, it is already proposed to remove moral barriers, carpet bombing and the use of tactical nuclear weapons. However, there is no prospect of success. Absolutely. Ahead is the inclusion of the entire NATO in the war and the opening of new theaters of operations along the perimeter of our borders
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 December 2022 21: 06
        
        Who offers carpet bombing and tactical nuclear weapons? Can you say it? The Russian leadership does not offer anything of the kind.
        So no need for morality. As far as I know the actual side of the matter, the Russian leadership is categorically against carpet bombing and the use of nuclear weapons.
        
        Alexey Davydov
        
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        13 December 2022 21: 24
        
        So no need for morality.
        
        It is necessary about morality.
        The surrender of territories with their own population and the destruction of the infrastructure that ensures the livelihoods of the civilian population in the winter is already beyond what we have always considered acceptable for ourselves. This is a step to the next step.
        Without compelling the masters of NATO and Ukraine to retreat, the very logic of fighting will force us to cross these lines. It is on this road that the Anglo-Saxons are leading us to war with Europe.
        If this is not the case, then why is there no direct impact on them from the very beginning?
        On the contrary, we maintain the fulfillment of economic obligations, supply them with money and regularly assure them that we will not allow nuclear war, that is, we will not use nuclear weapons as a tool to force a retreat.
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 December 2022 21: 30
        
        It is the Russian side that is talking about morality. You are either confusing or provoking something.
        The surrender of territories is quite possible in the conduct of hostilities. And this does not mean at all that it is necessary to use nuclear weapons. By the way, it was not used. Only the Anglo-Saxons talk about carpet bombing and tactical nuclear weapons. Prepare the world for its application. This is written into the US military planning. They have long been preparing public opinion for the admissibility of a limited nuclear war in Europe. The Russian doctrine, on the contrary, speaks of a retaliatory strike or the use of nuclear weapons only in the event of a threat to the existence of the state. Letting even hundreds of square meters. km of territory is not. And attacks on Kyiv and government buildings in Ukraine are just not carried out. Or will you argue that Russia is already carrying out carpet bombing?
        
        Sorry, but your logic is very lame. On both legs. None of what you write is visible in real life.
        
        anti-aircraft gunner
        
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        13 December 2022 18: 46
        
        There is no longer a Slavic world! Not! They have long been Europeanized and live by their values. Faith - Catholic, alphabet - Latin (Bulgarians miraculously preserved the Cyrillic alphabet), language of communication - English, cultural environment - Western, imposed by Hollywood, values - LBGT. We have nothing in common with them! And it won't! It is necessary to stop considering them Slavs altogether. So it will be easier for us to abstract from this age-old burden.
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 December 2022 19: 29
        
        Look carefully at all comments. The term "Slavic world" was not used by me. I prefer the term "Russian world".
        And by no means do I approach this term with a nationalistic coloring. The mental world of a person is more important to me. Nationality is not that important. More important is the adoption of culture and worldview. I also acknowledge the importance of religion, but do not make it a requirement.
        
        anti-aircraft gunner
        
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        13 December 2022 19: 59
        
        And there is no Russian world either. This is a myth invented by propagandists. As the war showed, the Russian language cannot be a condition or a distinctive feature of the Russian world. Inveterate Ukronazis speak Russian. And those mobilized from the Eastern part also speak Russian.
        What is the Russian world? I do not understand.
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 December 2022 20: 05
        
        You are not alone. Lukashenka doesn't understand either. It is impossible to reduce everything to one parameter. Language is the main parameter. But not the only one. What you put into your head is what you get out.
        
        anti-aircraft gunner
        
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        13 December 2022 20: 10
        
        Then what are the other options?
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 December 2022 20: 18
        
        Mother's lullaby, folk tales, literature, music, art, love for one's Motherland. Religion after all. That which makes up the mental world of man. His attitude. His attitude towards people.
        
        anti-aircraft gunner
        
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        13 December 2022 21: 50
        
        But what about other nations living on the territory of the Russian world? Or are they not the Russian world?
        No. These are clearly not the right settings. And do they exist at all?
        I'll draw an analogy. Let's say the Latin world. First of all, it is language. Spanish plus dialects and Portuguese with Italian. This is a common food, common folk holidays, emotionality and musicality inherent in Latinos. Peoples are different, but there are common features.
        I won't say that about the English world. If only within the island. In America, people are completely different, despite the common language. Or in India. Where, too, English is in use and many native.
        What are the features of the Russian world? In my opinion, only in the scattered areas of Russian residence. This is the former USSR. Well, immigrants.
        I would not rank Russian speakers in the Russian world. Of which, again, the entire USSR. These are completely different peoples.
        In general, I am against this term as invented by propagandists.
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 December 2022 22: 06
        
        I didn't talk about nationality.
        
        anti-aircraft gunner
        
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        13 December 2022 22: 51
        
        Then even more so. What kind of Russian world does a Kazakh or an Uzbek have? In Soviet times, they knew Russian. And they were close mentally. Now they do not know the language. And mentally as distant as Tashkent from Moscow.
        You yourself are already confused in your idea of the Russian world. Or they did not understand the mantras of propagandists.
        There is no Russian world! Not at all!!! There is the territory of the Russian Federation and Russians abroad.
        
        Bakht
        
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        14 December 2022 00: 01
        
        I am Azerbaijani. But for some reason the Russian world is closer to me mentally. Who am I outside the Russian Federation? You don't have it. Or you don't feel it. I have it. And I don't need proof.
        
        anti-aircraft gunner
        
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        14 December 2022 05: 40
        
        Because you know Russian. And one way or another connected with Russia. For an Azerbaijani in a village somewhere near Gyumri, the Russian world is like the moon.
        
        Bakht
        
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        14 December 2022 09: 23
        
        I know quite a lot of people who know Russian well. And they are Russian by nationality. But they support Ukraine. There are probably many of these in Russia. And there are certainly quite a lot of them in Ukraine.
        
        PS I don't think there is at least one Azerbaijani near Gyumri
        
        anti-aircraft gunner
        
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        14 December 2022 10: 12
        
        So that's what I was talking about. That even language cannot be a distinguishing feature of the Russian world.
        About Gyumri, offhand, he said that he remembered the first.
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 December 2022 19: 43
        
        A small digression into history. An old one, of course. But what is, is.
        At about the same time, Alexander Nevsky and Daniil Galitsky reigned in Rus'.
        Both had to somehow keep their peoples from the Horde. Alexander chose an alliance with the Horde to repel expansion from the West. Moreover, the Horde did not interfere in the internal affairs of the principality and demanded only a "way out", that is, a tax. Daniel chose an alliance with the West against the Horde. But the West demanded the introduction of Catholicism.
        Alexander, relying on the help of the Horde, defended his principality and retained his faith. For which he was canonized as a saint. Daniel received no help from the West and lost his faith.
        
        Vučić chose integration with the EU and a course towards joining NATO. He will not receive help from NATO. And lose Kosovo. History does not literally repeat itself. But he gives examples.
        
        anti-aircraft gunner
        
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        13 December 2022 20: 06
        
        And what kind of help can Vučić get from Russia? Which even its own territory can not protect from bombing and terrorist attacks.
        It is high time for him to spit on the brotherhood with Russia and become westernized. Then in 20 years no one will remember Russia in Serbia. More precisely, about age-old friendship. They will, like the rest of the former Yugoslavia, lie under the EU and NATO and live happily ever after on handouts. Why do they need this hemorrhoids with the eternally conflicting and toxic Russia, which, as it turns out, has forgotten how to fight properly, and the rulers have lost authority and respect all over the world.
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 December 2022 20: 15
        
        Serbia will not be able to receive any help from Russia. But sometimes there are uprisings with no hope of victory. What kind of victory could Spartacus count on? I could live happily ever after on handouts from the masters. Freedom was given to him personally.
        Or the Turkuts, surrounded by enemy troops, rebelled and were defeated.
        Are you suggesting they surrender? Well, Russia can give up and "drink Bavarian".
        
        Note. As it turned out, Russia has not forgotten how to fight. And he does it better than others. And the authority and respect from Western rulers is like "worse than enmity with the Anglo-Saxons, there can only be friendship with them." My opinion is that neither Biden, nor Macron, nor Scholz in the whole world cause nothing but ridicule.
        
        The answer is no, as it is the British Army's duty to fight as well as it is the Germans.
        
        guest
        
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        13 December 2022 20: 19
        
        Quote: Bakht
        As it turned out, Russia has not forgotten how to fight. And he does it better than others.
        
        Over the past 9 months, I have unfortunately had doubts about this.
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 December 2022 20: 32
        
        I have no such doubts. There are questions about the planning of operations. The unpreparedness of the army for real combat operations is visible. But the army knows how to fight. And it does it better every day.
        
        anti-aircraft gunner
        
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        13 December 2022 21: 55
        
        Unpreparedness and knows how to knit poorly. If not ready, then what climbed? If he can, then why haven't they won so far?
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 December 2022 22: 16
        
        Unpreparedness is manifested in the lack of experience. In principle, there is no such experience now in any army in the world. Have you heard the term "transition of the army to wartime"? Any army in any historical period of time is unprepared for the changed conditions of the battle. And he is studying.
        
        Napoleonic Wars. Linear tactics were replaced by battalions and artillery massing.
        Crimean War. Textbook example. Steam against a sail and a rifled gun.
        First World. Machine gun and barbed wire. Gases and airplanes.
        World War II. Panzergroups and aircraft carriers. By the way, until the Americans adapted to the creation of aircraft carrier formations, they also retreated.
        Now. Drones and precision weapons.
        Therefore, I do not accept the statement that "the generals are preparing for the last war." The generals are not clairvoyants and they cannot predict what methods of warfare will be.
        
        Why haven't you won yet? Just because they do not fight according to NATO standards. War in Yugoslavia. It was necessary to bomb Kyiv and all the power plants? Destroy all bridges? Perhaps this would be correct. Well, what about morality?
        
        anti-aircraft gunner
        
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        13 December 2022 22: 45
        
        Excursions into history, of course, informative and entertaining. However, I and millions of my compatriots are interested in the here and now.
        There is no morality in war. Victory will write everything off. Especially now, when all the boundaries are crossed.
        Yes, you need to bomb bridges, roads, power plants to dust. Because, firstly, it will save the lives of our soldiers, and secondly, it will significantly accelerate our victory. And Kyiv had to be bombed on the first day. All its decision-making centers. From military to state. Take control of the enemy.
        Stop playing giveaway! Every day of the war claims dozens of lives of Russian men of working and reproductive age. Stop pitying the Ukronazis! They must be destroyed!
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 December 2022 23: 58
        
        For some reason it seems to me that you need to know the history. As for "bombing into the Stone Age" sounds tempting. This is the Anglo-Saxon version of warfare. You can, of course, try. But the Russian army has no such experience. Yes, and there are no such resources, as it seems to me.
        
        anti-aircraft gunner
        
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        14 December 2022 05: 43
        
        History needs to be known. In general education. Fighting must be conducted in such a way as to win. If you want to bomb, then you need to bomb. Resources are full. While full. But soon after the shooting of the sparrows, it will be gone.
        
        guest
        
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        13 December 2022 22: 24
        
        If it’s about soldiers, then I have no complaints here, but the leadership is waging some kind of strange war.
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 December 2022 22: 30
        
        So I have no complaints. Always all questions were to command. And at all levels. From Platoon to Commander-in-Chief.
        But there is another immutable law. During the war, criticism of one's own is unacceptable. After the war, debriefing is MANDATORY needed.
        
        guest
        
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        13 December 2022 22: 34
        
        Quote: Bakht
        During the war, criticism of one's own is unacceptable.
        
        Criticism of whom? A soldier on the front line is, of course, unacceptable, but some mediocrity sitting in their warm offices can be criticized.
        
        anti-aircraft gunner
        
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        13 December 2022 21: 53
        
        Gone are the days when heroes died for freedom. Now the world is ruled by pragmatism. All historical examples will remain in history. There will be no new ones.
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 December 2022 22: 21
        
        There will be examples. And the old ones will be repeated. Not absolutely accurate. But it seems. And then historians will write them down in their tomes.
        Pragmatism does not rule the whole world. And that part of it that worships the "golden calf".
        
        The comment was deleted.
        
        anti-aircraft gunner
        
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        13 December 2022 22: 39
        
        It is enough to look at hundreds of thousands of dodgers. Heroes are born. Only a handful of adventurers remain. But for our country this is not an option.
        
        guest
        
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        13 December 2022 22: 43
        
        Quote: Anti-aircraft gunner
        It is enough to look at hundreds of thousands of dodgers.
        
        It is not surprising how we allowed the enemy to educate our youth.
        
        Bakht
        
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        13 December 2022 23: 55
        
        "Adventurers"?????
        
        anti-aircraft gunner
        
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        14 December 2022 05: 45
        
        Yes, like Strelkov-Girkin and others like him.
  2. anti-aircraft gunner
    
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    13 December 2022 18: 34
    
    Quote: Volkonsky
    moved to Kosovo
    
    As it moves, so it will move.
In passing

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11 December 2022 15: 28

You can't sit on two chairs. The position of the West is unequivocal and does not provide for "special" relations. As much as Vucic and some in Russia would like, even to this day. But in this case, Serbia will lose its Kosovo. Does Russia now have a cause, strength and desire to be more Serbs than themselves?
Watching

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11 December 2022 17: 59

Quote: Bakht
Vučić is either an optimist or inadequate. What is the resolution? My opinion is that he is an idiot.

No, don't go at all. He wants to secure an official refusal from NATO in order to show everyone how NATO is following the Kosovo bandits. After that, his hands will be untied for the introduction of his troops and the protection of the Serbs. Approximately the same as Putin did with his ultimatum to the West. And a new war in Kosovo is inevitable; the Anglo-Saxons are probably behind this, who need a second front against Russia. (And the third, in Abkhazia.?)
1. Bakht
  
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  11 December 2022 19: 44
  
  What is the difference between Kosovo and Donbass?
  There were no NATO peacekeepers in the Donbass. So Vucic will not introduce anything anywhere. The insert has not grown.
  1. Volkonsky
    
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    12 December 2022 18: 17
    
    It started....
    Serbian special forces moved into Kosovo
    
    Tonight will probably be the hardest evening in my history.
    
    Serbian President Vučić
2. anti-aircraft gunner
  
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  13 December 2022 18: 38
  
  He will not have time to untie one hand, as he will be twisted into a ram's horn. What front? NATO troops are standing there! Wake up.
anti-aircraft gunner

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13 December 2022 18: 36

The wolf's lamb asks permission to enter the barn. Already a joke.
The Serbs have no other choice but to recognize Kosovo, remove all Serbs from there and forget about this territory forever. Until the remnants of Serbia itself were torn apart.