The winter offensive of the Russian army: the direction of the main attack


Epigraph: "You can do anything with the people who cannot defeat the Ukrainians!"


Did you read the epigraph? The words belong to some Russian radical jingoistic patriot. And no matter how we all feel about this category of Russian citizens, he is right - the fate of Russia's future is now being decided in Ukraine. If we lose there, Russia will have no future! We are standing at the last line - behind Moscow, not in the figurative, but in the literal sense of the word. Because our enemy put everything on Ukraine - all of his 500-year-old hegemony. And we must be aware that it is not Ukraine that opposes us, and not even the United States, we are opposed by the entire Western world, 52 countries have taken up arms against us, that same golden billion is now consolidated against Russia, pushing a cart with hexogen called “Independent Ukraine” . And don't be put off by the fact that 20 out of 30 NATO countries have already announced that they have exhausted their military reserves, which already threatens their own security (France was the last to do this), nevertheless, the States still have enough resources to bury us and the rest of the world several times in a row. And until we take the States out of this game, the game will not end for us. And it looks like the game hasn't even started yet. Both sides have so far only tried on it, conducting undercover behind-the-scenes negotiations.

The Last Supper in Ankara. Visit of the Horseman of the Apocalypse


But on November 8, the whole behind the scenes suddenly ended, on this day the parties crossed a kind of Rubicon, which became a turning point. It was then that all the masks were dropped, and the West, represented by the United States, headed for a war to the bitter end. What happened on this day? The mid-term elections to the US Congress were held, where, contrary to all our expectations, the Republicans failed to win a landslide victory (the upper house - the Senate remained with the Democrats, and in the lower house the advantage of the Republicans was not so significant as to put the Democrats in a stall), after which the deranged grandfather Joe headed for war (and only physical death will stop him in this, until the next presidential election in 2024 there are no other deterrents left).

The fact that there will be no more negotiations was brought to us by his Horseman of the Apocalypse, CIA Director William Burns, who on November 14 of this year, at the "secret" negotiations initiated by the American side in the Turkish capital, handed over the "black mark" to his colleague Director of the Foreign Intelligence Service Sergey Naryshkin. Why "secret" in quotation marks - because the topic of negotiations was the danger of a nuclear threat and the exchange of prisoners, but in fact Burns told his colleague that the States were withdrawing from the negotiation process and the next station for us was "War". The fact that this is so can be judged by the further route of the directors of the special services - the director of the CIA drove off to Kyiv, and the director of the Foreign Intelligence Service to Tehran (without a stop in Moscow).

All further steps of Moscow and the Western world opposing it made it clear that the last bridges were burned in Ankara and the parties are no longer considering any other option than military. At least the West did not even leave such a choice to the Kremlin (either capitulation or war). Below I will simply give a chain of successive events, and draw your own conclusions. On the same day, November 14, the UN General Assembly by a majority of votes (94 countries out of 181), with 14 against and 73 abstentions, voted for the payment of reparations to Ukraine from the frozen reserves of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (the reason is Russia's invasion of its territory). And although the document is not legally binding (only the UN Security Council, where we have a veto right, has the right to such resolutions), but you understand the hint - we will be pinched, how to formalize it legally - these are already details. Further more, on November 21, the NATO Parliamentary Assembly recognizes Russia as a terrorist country. And two days later, on November 23, the European Parliament adopted a similar resolution, recognizing Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism by a majority vote (494 deputies in favor, 58 against, with 44 abstentions).

And as a cherry on the cake - on November 30, France takes the initiative to create within the EU a Special Tribunal for Russia (the Hague International Tribunal is apparently not enough for them!), From which the only conclusion can be drawn - Putin and his entire team are already expected in Paris and The Hague, apartments and handcuffs for them are already prepared there. That is, the enemy has been identified, the culprit has been appointed, the legal justification will be tightened up, whoever loses in Ukraine will be hanged on all the dogs, Putin and his entire team will be publicly tarred, covered in feathers, after which they will be put in a barrel and in this form with a whoop ride around the city. They (I mean the collective West) have worked out this procedure since the 18th century.

You can't take us with your bare hands!


But the good gentlemen, apparently, have completely forgotten that Russia is not Serbia, and Putin is not Milosevic. The Kremlin itself gave them a non-transparent hint about this, on November 29, notifying its “partners” that the talks scheduled for that day in Cairo on strategic stability under the Treaty on the Reduction and Limitation of Strategic Offensive Arms (START-3) would not take place and would be postponed indefinitely (Let me remind you that the resumption of negotiations on START-3 was initiated by the American side - grandfather Joe did this first thing on January 5, 2021, barely stepping on the threshold of the Oval Office). The Kremlin did not indicate the reason for the demarche, as well as new dates for possible negotiations.

And on December 2, at the Sary-Shagan test site north of Lake Balkhash (Republic of Kazakhstan), which is under the jurisdiction of the Strategic Missile Forces of Russia, a new missile of the Aerospace Forces anti-missile defense complex (the type of which has not yet been reported) was successfully launched, in during which an unknown Russian-made missile successfully hit a mock target, as told by the commander of the anti-missile defense formation of the Aerospace Forces, Major General Sergei Grabchuk. Let me remind you that this type of weapon can also be used against satellites (we demonstrated how this is done on November 15, 2021, by shooting down our own old satellite in a stationary orbit of 235 km with an A-470 Nudol rocket). All US and European partners' military satellites (as well as commercial ones serving the needs of the military) are within range of our missiles. On October 26, at a meeting of the UN General Assembly, our representative in this international organization announced the possibility of their destruction.

Russia will consider American commercial satellites as "legitimate targets" if they are used in the course of hostilities in Ukraine

- such a statement at the UN was made by Deputy Director of the Department for Nonproliferation and Arms Control of the Russian Foreign Ministry Konstantin Vorontsov.

In addition, Russia has multiplied the launch of its own military satellites into orbit - this year it has already launched 13 military satellites (three of which in the last three weeks), for comparison, last year we launched only five such satellites, and in 2020- m - four. At the same time, there is no need to shoot down Musk’s satellites or disable their optics with the help of our laser weapons, given their number (since May 2019, SpaceX has already sent more than 3,5 thousand of its devices into orbit), we can “put out » the global Starlink system even on the ground by affecting a key element of their system - satellite ground stations that interact with hundreds of satellites and thousands of user terminals. Stations are stationary, and there are much fewer of them than spacecraft and equipment for users. To ensure the operation of the system on the territory of an average European country, one to five stations are needed. Disabling one of them will turn off the Internet immediately over a large area, and the destruction of 5-10 stations can deprive an entire region of several states of communication. Modern laser-guided missiles and kamikaze drones make it possible to destroy such targets with certainty.

To effectively counteract the operation of satellite ground stations, their coordinates, data on which channels and providers provide the Internet, routing features, system IP addresses and other technical characteristics are needed. Radio engineering information is no less important: the design and purpose of antennas, operating frequencies, methods of signal modulation, etc. The information should be enough to develop a complete scenario of an operation in order to disrupt communications in a certain area. In this case, the attack can be not only armed. It can be a cyber attack or counteraction with the help of radio equipment (something similar already happened at the end of summer, when the connection provided by the good Mask to the warriors of light of the Armed Forces of Ukraine suddenly began to fail on the territory of Ukraine).

Our scientists note that, in general, Starlink is well protected from hackers. An exception may be gateways to third-party networks, the security of which is usually not so carefully controlled. At the same time, attacks using radio equipment are likely to be more effective. The source of interference must be placed above the station. Most likely, it can be placed in low or even suborbital orbit. However, its effect will be limited in time. When influencing satellites, the goal should be to disrupt the self-organization system of spacecraft, which can be done both from the ground and from space, Russian engineers say.

In order not to smear the technical aspects on the plate for a long time, I will only say that we will not break the Mask system (it is too well protected and can work autonomously, however, only in a narrow range), but we will greatly slow it down and affect the quality of the transmitted information, we can. And if we can, then we will do it (when we consider it necessary for ourselves).

In war as in war. Who did not hide - we are not to blame


Epigraph: "The goal of any war is peace on the terms of the winner" (Carl von Clausewitz)

We must be aware that on November 14 war was declared on us. And not by rogue Ukraine, but by the hegemon himself, he consistently checks the thickness of our red lines (the last time he did this was in the early morning of December 5, attacking our long-range strategic bomber airfields in Engels, Saratov Region and Dyagilevo with the help of Ukrainian Tu-141 Strizh drones Ryazan region; in both cases, both people and technique - three servicemen were killed, six were wounded, three aircraft carrying air-launched nuclear weapons were damaged by fragments - two Tu-95MS bears in Engels and one Tu-22M3 in Dyagilevo; which gives us the right to use, according to military doctrine, our nuclear weapons; it is clear that we will not do this in Ukraine, although some in the West, especially in London, really counted on this, but what we can very much do, I will say below).

Some across the ocean in military headquarters, people with very big stars in the Pentagon are very afraid of our winter offensive. And rightly they are afraid, because right now the very moment is coming when we can turn the tide of events with one blow, and with it the backbone of this fascist reptile that has crawled out of some dusty OUN closet. It has already happened that by January we have the peak of readiness of the troops, while our opponents in the Armed Forces of Ukraine are now on the decline (I wrote about this in detail here). Their wave of mobilization waned after the losses incurred in the summer-autumn campaign (in the Kharkiv-Kherson, Krasnolimansk and Bakhmut operations - minus 100 thousand people. irretrievable losses), and we are expected to replenish (plus 318 thousand) after a partial military mobilization announced by Putin (of which 82 are already at the front). And in the future, according to the rate of replenishment of the mob. reserve, we are ahead of our opponents (if necessary, we have plus another 300 thousand bayonets every three months, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have plus 35-40 thousand during the same time, they are not able to prepare more of their foreign training camps - they are not for such a war were sharpened).

In addition, we have an advantage in terms of technology, the allies of Nezalezhnaya have already exhausted their limits from warehouses (especially for ammunition of 122-mm and 155-mm calibers), it takes time to produce new weapons, which we should not give them, because since the days of the USSR, we have so much “iron” in warehouses that it will be enough for two more such wars. It’s a sin not to take advantage of this right now, when we and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are in the opposite phase of readiness. And the gray-haired four-star Pentagon generals know about it. They know and are waiting with horror for the Russian winter offensive.

Unpredictable Surovikin


Epigraph: "The war is fought to victory and that's it" (Karl von Clausewitz)

According to their forecasts, it should begin within the next four to eight weeks. I dare to suggest that the direction of the main strike will be a strike from Belarus to Lutsk-Lviv and below, in order to cut off the supply routes of Western weapons to Ukraine. This will be the main direction of the strike, which does not exclude pinching strikes from east to west in the directions of Zaporozhye-Kryvyi Rih and Slavyansk-Kramatorsk and a diversionary strike on Sumy from the adjacent regions of the Russian Federation. General Armageddon, back in Syria, has established himself as a master of distracting strikes, you never know in advance where the main one will be struck. But Shoigu’s Sunday visit to Belarus and his meeting with Lukashenka and the Minister of Defense of the Republic of Belarus indicate that the main blow will still be dealt from Belarus to Lutsk, the entire Belarusian transport and military infrastructure has already been prepared for this (both railway lines and automobile, and jump airfields). At the same time, the armed forces of the Republic of Belarus are unlikely to be involved, their purpose is to tie down the Poles, but everything else is in full combat readiness, otherwise the visit to Minsk would not have taken place on Sunday (that Shoigu has nothing else to do on a day off?). Everything is at a low start. I think it will start a week before the New Year (such a gift to Grandpa Joe from Putin for Catholic Christmas).

I dare to suggest that the winter offensive of the Russian Armed Forces will begin with the downing of a NATO satellite or several Musk satellites (but the latter is unlikely for the reasons indicated above) and a strike on high-voltage transformer substations (750 kW), balancing the load of three still operating Ukrainian nuclear power plants. As a result of the latter, the entire Square runs the risk of plunging into darkness for at least a week, with all the ensuing consequences. And when the lights are turned on, Russian tanks will already be in Lvov. I expect this between December 12 and 25, the Russians have everything ready, the strikes will be in three directions at once (divergent) from north to south and from east to west (everything except the southern flank, it will be quiet there) - an attack on Lutsk-Lviv , a blow to Slavyansk-Kramatorsk, a blow to Zaporozhye-Kryvyi Rih, a blow to Sumy (the last distraction). It is clear that all this is my delusional fantasies, no one knows how it will actually be. And this is Surovikin's huge advantage, but the echelons with the new T-90M "Breakthrough" (Uralvagonzavod has already shipped 200 brand new cars from the assembly line) arriving to the front and to Belarus, as well as the T-14 Armata lit up in the Donbass, says that it will be very hot (and already in the near future).

Why do I think that everything will start with the downed NATO satellite, here the calculation is simple. We have been in a state of war with the United States since November 14 (even if it is not officially declared), the fact that this is so was evidenced by the attack of their Ukrainian wards on our airfields of long-range strategic aviation. And this is a casus belli, a reason not only for declaring war, but also for the use of our nuclear weapons, in accordance with our military doctrine. But it’s not for Ukraine to declare war (it’s enough for the SVO), and it’s not for Ukraine to use our nuclear weapons. The Yankees (or Britons) acted very cunningly here, using dense, still Soviet drones especially for this (so that no claims could be made against them). But the fact that these brainchildren of the Soviet military industry, if desired, can fly to Moscow and bomb the Kremlin, everyone has already understood, as well as the fact that they have undergone fine-tuning and pre-flight tuning in NATO weapons workshops (by the way, NATO specialists were also involved in the navigation of these dreadnoughts, using its own GPS system for this). We need to somehow respond to this, you must admit that a missile attack on the Ukrainian energy infrastructure in this case will somehow be too small. But a downed NATO satellite will be a completely normal symmetrical response.

A month ago (on October 27, specifically), John Kirby, US National Security Council Strategic Communications Coordinator, responding to a statement by our Foreign Office spokesman, Konstantin Vorontsov, that US space "pseudo-civilian infrastructure could become a legitimate target for our retaliation" (which I cited above) , said that the United States in the event of such an attack would respond "appropriately" (although without specifying how).

Any attack on American infrastructure will be dealt with appropriately and appropriately. The United States will hold Russia accountable for any such attack if it occurs.

– told reporters the representative of the US National Security Council.

NATO officials traditionally did not talk aloud about specific responses to a possible strike, but referred to the speech of the head of the alliance Jens Stoltenberg in Brussels, who, referring to all types of threats from Russia, said that:

The extent of the response will depend on the nature of the attack. And we will not give our potential adversaries the privilege of determining where the boundary lies for the application of the Fifth Paragraph.

Former NATO Assistant Secretary General Jamie Shea was more outspoken:

Any Russian attack against satellites used by NATO members in space would be considered an act of aggression that would lead to the implementation of paragraph 5. Other NATO allies may call for this as well.

For those who do not know, I will remind you that according to American military doctrine, this is a pretext for starting a war with the use of nuclear weapons. Well, that's great, let's see how "strong balls" you have. Because an attack on our nuclear strategists is also a pretext for declaring war, and also with the use of nuclear weapons. If the Ukrainian UAVs were aimed at the target with the help of your military satellites, then why don't we shoot them down?! And what “strong balls” you have, we already saw when your Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, together with your national security adviser Jake Sullivan, decided at night in pajamas how to react to a Polish tractor destroyed by a Ukrainian air defense missile. Despite the fact that both hate each other, they had to urgently figure out how to avoid the application of the 5th article of the NATO Charter on Collective Security (and really, it’s not the idiot grandfather Joe who should be involved in solving such serious issues?!). Then, out of harm's way, they decided that it was a Ukrainian missile, for which they even had to shout at their Kyiv ward, who, having gone over with fly agarics (due to the lack of a Colombian potion), demanded a nuclear war from the allies. Then you got rid of the war, let's see how it will be this time.

From a technical point of view, we can do it. The Ukrainian armed forces use the Starlink Internet satellite network (about 3500 active devices), in addition, they have access to data from Iceye radar sounding satellites (21 devices in orbit). Maxar satellites (4 pieces) are also actively shooting the regions of Ukraine in the interests of the US military, some of their images are also available to Ukrainians. At the same time, the quality of their shooting is such that in the pictures you can see separately standing people. Judging by the published press releases, Maxar is actively filming the war zone. All of the listed companies are de jure commercial, so Russia could make claims against any of them in the spirit of Vorontsov's statement, although all of them, one way or another, interact with the US government.

In August, another Kiev clown (with a difficult Kaveen past), who claims to be the president in the future (if, of course, Ukraine remains, which we have serious doubts about), a certain Sergiy Prytula announced the acquisition of one of the satellites of the Finnish company Iceye with the right to access its archival materials (naturally, in the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine). Iceye is a private Finnish company that has been supplying its data to the Pentagon since 2021 using its US subsidiary. The company currently has 21 Earth-sensing radar satellites in orbit, one of which is on permanent lease from Ukraine. These satellites make it possible to observe the surface of the planet with a detail of up to 25 cm, and they are not disturbed by clouds and night time.

The Pentagon also uses and shares with the Armed Forces more satellite images from Planet (about 179 nano-class and 20 micro-class devices). This American company manages as many as three families of satellites. Five can shoot with a resolution of 5 meters in several spectral ranges, 179 ultra-small devices also shoot with a resolution of 3-5 meters, but in a day they are able to get a composite image of the entire earth's land, and another 20 satellites shoot with high detail up to 1 meter. Such a gigantic fleet of satellites allows for regular monitoring of selected areas of the Earth.

Given the large number of commercial satellites listed above and our modest capabilities (in terms of ground-based anti-satellite missiles), the few Maxar satellites could be our priority targets, since they are the most expensive and provide the most detailed images. Russia is not in a position to encroach on the "mega-constellations" of small and ultra-small satellites, of which there will be more than 3500 pieces in total - there will not be enough missiles. Whether General Surovikin will risk launching his winter offensive from a downed NATO satellite, we will all see in the near future in real time. I do not exclude such a possibility as a symmetrical response to the attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on our airfields of strategic long-range aviation.

Carthage must be destroyed! Ukraine should forever disappear from the political map of the world


We must be aware that there will no longer be any negotiations with Kyiv and a forced shameful treacherous truce with its command. At the end of hostilities, Ukraine as a state entity will disappear forever from political world maps. If in March 2022, after the Istanbul negotiations with gopniks in tracksuits, this territorial misunderstanding could still become part of the Russian Federation as a union state, like Belarus, then nine months later this is no longer a question.

The Rubicon was crossed on October 8 after a sabotage on the Crimean bridge followed by a Russian missile attack on Ukrainian energy infrastructure on October 10. Now Putin will never repeat the mistakes of the Bolsheviks and will not leave Ukraine in the form of a national pseudo-unitary entity, even as an autonomous republic within the Russian Federation (such as Tatarstan or Bashkortostan), now it will enter the Russian Federation only in the form of regions-subjects of the Russian Federation (as a result, they will become over a hundred).

The fact that this will be so can be judged at least by the process of decommunization, which is only gaining momentum with each new shelling of the energy infrastructure of Ukraine by Russian missiles and drones (Putin said: "You wanted decommunization? We will arrange it for you!" - Putin's words are rarely out of business). The second confirmation of this factor is the process of the disappearance of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC) and its absorption by the Orthodox Church of Ukraine (OCU), the ugly brainchild of Poroshenko, launched by the current drug-addicted vicegerent of Ukraine, the successor of the affairs of a drunken alcoholic. As a result, both children of Ukrainian independence will disappear, and the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) will take their place, as it should be.

Who owns the resources - owns the world


In Europe, the changes in the ending of the database in Ukraine will be much cooler. Predictions are hopeless, but I'll try anyway. By 2024 and the end of hostilities in Ukraine (of course, by our victory), the European Union as a supranational international entity will begin to fall apart, the 27 states that make it up, deprived of access to cheap Russian energy resources, driven by thoughts solely of their own survival, will begin to scatter to their national apartments, cursing and quarreling among themselves (sharing furniture, pans and other immovable junk).

All this, eating up the remnants of European industry and exploiting the European intellectual and financial resources that have defected to them, will be watched by the United States, which by that time will already be ruled by the Republicans (I do not exclude that Donald Trump). The vile Britain will also try to pick up the remnants of the pan-European pie, uniting around itself the most rabid representatives of the split EU (Poland, the Baltic states, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia, and maybe also some of the Nordic countries - Denmark, Sweden and Finland), but it’s not at all a fact that she will succeed, because she will not be able to offer them anything but hatred for the Russian Federation.

But the Russian Federation will have everything for this - both the resources and the military force, which, after the destruction of Ukraine, as a territorial misunderstanding, everyone will have to reckon with. Moreover, NATO will also be in the Bose by 2025, after the States successfully exit it. And this is exactly what will happen, because the States will not have any other tasks in Europe after eating the EU. Why do they need this starving, poor old woman? Their interests will gradually move to the east, to the Indo-Pacific region (ITR) and the countries of Southeast Asia (Southeast Asia). There, specifically for this, since September 15, 2021, a military bloc was created, which received the name AUKUS according to the countries that founded it, modestly calling itself a defense alliance. I do not rule out that by that time several more countries will join it, primarily Japan and South Korea, after which everyone will be able to forget about NATO with relief.

Why should the United States carry this unbearable burden? That's right - there is no need, down with him. The war will unfold for resources and markets, and by that time Europe will have neither one nor the other. By definition, it did not have resources, and it will cease to be a sales market as its population becomes impoverished, which, in its struggle for life, will soon risk switching to pasture.

Putin promised that the most important and unpredictable decade awaits us - and so, he did not deceive, in 10 years you will not recognize the political map of the world. A number of states will disappear from it, others will unite for their own survival. At the same time, I do not completely exclude the disappearance of the UN as a supranational entity, which has recently lost its purpose, that for which it was created. Something must appear instead, what - I don't know yet. And the beginning of this was laid on February 24, 2022.

This concludes the report on the topic. Sorry for going beyond its scope by drawing some distant perspective. But it is always better to know how everything will end, so as not to ask stupid questions and not take rash actions. Of course, it is better for the Supreme Commander to do this himself (even before the start of the NWO), without introducing a worm of doubt into the souls of his citizens, but, apparently, not everything can be said, and the time for these words, apparently, has not yet come. Nobody holds me by the jacket. That's all. Your Mr. Z
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  1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
    aslanxnumx (Aslan) 8 December 2022 20: 00
    +5
    They think that they crossed the Rubicon, but in fact they did not even reach it.
    1. Romanovski Offline Romanovski
      Romanovski (Roman) 12 December 2022 21: 44
      +1
      Well done RUSSIA!! Armenia and Karabakh are with you forever! It’s not for nothing that Heaven gave Great Russia 1/6 of the Earth’s land .... The richest country, the strongest Army (Who stopped the Mongol-Tatars? Who defeated and expelled Napoleon? Who defeated the Beast in the person of Hitler ???. ..), the most beautiful women, the strongest friendship of peoples, the most delicious cuisine of all the peoples of Russia ... The most beautiful Churches and Mosques ... The most kind, sensitive and sympathetic people who will not pass by someone else's misfortune ... The most BEAUTIFUL nature - in Russia (Caucasus, Altai, river meadows, lakes and forests of central Russia, the Black Sea region, Crimea, Kamchatka, Primorye, the Volga region, SIBERIA (!) ..... I feel sorry for those "men" who fled from Russia after the start of the NWO. ... You abandoned the Beautiful Motherland in a difficult moment .... PROTECT RUSSIA !!!
  2. Burtsev Vladimir Dmitrievich (Vladimir) 8 December 2022 20: 49
    -2
    I am most interested in the question: When will our huckster oligarchs stop deliveries of strategic goods to the US: energy resources and metals: titanium, aluminum, chromium, nickel, etc.? Now it turns out that some people in Russia are giving their lives for Russia, while others, meanwhile, are making billions of dollars selling Russia's interests. This is a total betrayal! Stalin shot them. And in the PRC, such traitors are now being shot! And with Artyomovsk, it's time to finish the almshouse there. To bypass Artyomovsk on both sides along the flanks of tanks under the cover of the Aerospace Forces and drones, cut off all the VFU in Artemovsk, deprive them of all supplies and destroy all the combat positions of Bandera with the help of artillery. And then to launch tanks with special forces and airborne troops on Artyomovsk again, having previously launched capture groups dressed in Bandera uniforms into Artyomovsk itself to capture and destroy the most important objects in Artyomovsk itself from the inside. Plus, launch another airborne assault in the forested areas of the city and the territories previously cleared by artillery adjacent to the important objects of Artyomovsk. And you are all brainwashing about Surovikin. Artyomovsk could have been taken for a long time!!!!
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 8 December 2022 20: 57
      -3
      slightly different tasks are being solved near Bakhmut
      https://topcor.ru/29812-tak-pobedim-plan-generala-surovikina.html
      read - everything is popularly stated there
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 9 December 2022 03: 51
      +6
      Burtsev, but I'm interested in the question: If not * our huckster oligarchs * then who will replenish the state budget of the country? You and others like you? You do not like the word oligarchs, replace it with trade representatives of Russia. And in general, who hammered it into your head that trade goes past the state and some * huckster-oligarchs * add all the money they receive to themselves personally? Do you even realize that something like this is completely impossible? Every penny counts. Those who stole either no longer exist or have been sitting for a long time. The family is not without its freaks. But do you know at least about how many millions of dollars (and in rubles it’s generally scary how much) Russia spends on one day of the NWO? What day do you propose to fight? From the population to tear the last? The people are helping out. So where do you get the money, Zin? Maybe enough already about * huckster-oligarchs * or do you think that everyone who reads is stupid children?
      1. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 9 December 2022 06: 36
        +5
        And let me find out in which colony General of the Army Bulgakov is soaring. He failed the mobilization. With a bang. I would very much like to think that the fate of People's Commissar Yezhov will befall him.
        1. GIS Offline GIS
          GIS (Ildus) 9 December 2022 09: 41
          -1
          it seems to me that there will be a separate "song" for them, but after the CBO
      2. Igor_E Offline Igor_E
        Igor_E (Igor) 9 December 2022 22: 46
        -2
        If not * our huckster oligarchs * then who will replenish the state budget of the country?

        As far as I understand, most of the profits from private enterprises go to their owners, and only a small part goes to the state in the form of taxes. The oligarchs are the main thieves who took over the largest state-owned enterprises. Moreover, it was profitable enterprises that were seized, having previously presented them as allegedly unprofitable (through various frauds), in order to then buy them up at low prices.
        1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 December 2022 02: 58
          +2
          Igor, let's consider that, in addition to taxes, the owners of private enterprises pay the state, while not forgetting that any enterprise is primarily people, that is, jobs, in other words, monthly wages plus a social package, vacation pay, sick leave, deductions for maternity leave. Payment of rent, acquisition of means of production, without which no enterprise will simply be able to work. Electricity, transport, fuel, spare parts, purchase of new equipment and plus new jobs.
          But this is not the main thing. Describe, do you know how people become owners of private enterprises, what initial capital is and under what conditions a bank loan is given to organize a private enterprise. If you answer honestly, it will become clear even to you that there is just enough of the *main profit* to pay off all of the above and take a loan from the bank again. And almost all owners of private enterprises work in this mode.
          But that's not all. Do not forget about competitors and crime. Many tried to become successful, but faced with reality, they gave up at best, and many simply died. So this work is dangerous for private business at any level. Many people would be happy to quit, but sometimes it is simply impossible.
          1. Igor_E Offline Igor_E
            Igor_E (Igor) 11 December 2022 14: 58
            0
            It was about the oligarchs, and when I wrote about private enterprises, I meant big business. And you describe the problems of small business. And this is fundamentally different. Small business is run by ordinary people, against whom I have nothing. And the oligarchs (Abramovich, Deripaska, etc.) are thieves and should be liquidated, and their enterprises (which they stole from the state) should be nationalized.
            1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 12 December 2022 02: 04
              0
              You do not have the slightest right to call respected people - the basis of the economy of the whole country, call them thieves. Theft is a crime and it is not you and others like you who make this definition, but the court. Calls to liquidate can be regarded as the killing of people for their professional activities. It is necessary to ask whether your appeals fall under any article of the Criminal Code. Further, if the fact of the theft of enterprises is not proven, then the person who claims this can be slandered, and this is also an article in the Criminal Code. Listen, Igor, you are just some kind of criminal element. Or will the revolution write off all crimes? Further, is big business born on its own, or through development from small business? Well, don't be so infantile. Adults are not born adults and grow out of babies, ne?
              1. Igor_E Offline Igor_E
                Igor_E (Igor) 12 December 2022 04: 31
                0
                You can find a lot of accusatory material about "respectable people" on the Internet. I'll leave a couple of links.
                2002 Dossier Abramovich. Small cut.
                http://www.compromat.ru/page_12610.htm
                2011 Abramovich admitted that the Sibneft auction was a sham.
                http://www.compromat.ru/page_31420.htm
                Of course, I understand that the Internet is full of fakes, and the content must be approached critically, but with regard to the Russian oligarchs (the old Yeltsin ones), the information is mostly reliable, for the reason that, having robbed the country, they spoiled the entire population, incl. many officials perceive the oligarchs as enemies, and therefore leaked all the information about them to the network.
                And the fact that the oligarchs did not go to jail for their crimes is because they have a great influence on the authorities. But ordinary people know that oligarchs are thieves. And that's why you don't know about it, it's strange, you probably read books on economics, about how big business is born from small, but this does not apply to Russian oligarchs.
    3. Avarron Offline Avarron
      Avarron (Sergei) 9 December 2022 10: 14
      -10
      Wow, what a mighty general. Do you have a sofa there that does not collapse under the weight?
      You are probably writing from a trench, from the front, where you show everyone how to fight?
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    5. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
      Vox_Populi (vox populi) 9 December 2022 19: 10
      -1
      I am most interested in the question: When will our huckster oligarchs stop deliveries of strategic goods to the US: energy resources and metals: titanium, aluminum, chromium, nickel, etc.?

      You worry so much for nothing. "They" announced the gradual abandonment of the mentioned products ...
  3. Ru_Na Offline Ru_Na
    Ru_Na (Rustam) 8 December 2022 20: 50
    +1
    Hmm, the author wrote interestingly, but there are nuances. But will we have enough forces available at the moment to carry out large-scale offensive operations, and even in several sectors of the front?! After all, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have dug in well, and despite the heavy losses in personnel, they still outnumber us, albeit so much, and attacking the enemy without having numerical superiority is stupidity, unless you are Suvorov. There will be an offensive, but most likely it will be limited to battles for the Slavic-Kramatorsk agglomeration, and there will also be an offensive in the Svatovsky direction, at least there are all the prerequisites for this in recent days.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 8 December 2022 20: 58
      -2
      there are not enough forces, yes, but for this there is a maneuver with them ... we are waiting, sir ...
      1. zenion Offline zenion
        zenion (zinovy) 9 December 2022 17: 00
        -1
        If the Americans and Ukrainians do not agree to be attacked, what will we do? They are colleagues in money bodies. Let's go on the attack, but they won't pay us, how will we dismiss it, that this is a mistake?
      2. Mordvin 3 Offline Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 (Vladimir) 10 December 2022 14: 30
        0
        In addition to your words, how to turn a crucian into a pig, I don’t see anything specific.
    2. Burtsev Vladimir Dmitrievich (Vladimir) 8 December 2022 22: 44
      -6
      Hmm, and who told you that the forces of the RF Armed Forces in the NVO in Ukraine are not enough? According to our President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin, only 75 newly mobilized fighters of the RF Armed Forces are directly involved in hostilities in the NMD. Another 75 thousand are in the second echelon of the RF Armed Forces in the NVO zone. And another 150 thousand fighters are deep in the rear and are just preparing for the upcoming battles. In fact, the RF Armed Forces continue the tactic of slowing down the attacking actions of the RF Armed Forces in the combat zone of the Northern Military District. Artyomovsk can and should be taken for a long time now. What and how to do I wrote in the comments to this article.
      1. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
        soloist2424 (Oleg) 9 December 2022 10: 41
        0
        In the Second World War in Ukraine, there were about 3 million Soviet troops. Now, perhaps, so much is not needed, the Ukrainians also do not have a 2-million-strong army, but there are doubts whether there will be enough troops.
      2. anti-aircraft gunner 9 December 2022 23: 59
        +1
        Can you tell what these 300 fighters are like? This war needs 1) artillerymen, 2) tankers, 3) airmen, 4) attack aircraft (infantry, special forces), 5) signalmen, 6) gunners, let's call UAV operators. Separately, I take pilots and helicopter pilots out of brackets. These are professionals who cannot be trained in 2 months. But which are also needed in large quantities. So, are you sure that in 2 months you managed to prepare all the specialists in demand from mobiles? And what is their level? Or do you think that in 2 months they let the infantry shoot at the training ground, and it can be thrown into battle like cannon fodder? These 300 thousand only on paper look impressive. But in fact - the usual militia. Which can be used as a consumable by plugging holes in the front. And their morale and training were manifested in the flight from positions near Kharkov and Kherson. I'm talking about the LDNR militia. It's too early to drop caps. We don't have an army. The one that was was halved. And the new one still takes a long time to assemble and train.
        1. Mordvin 3 Offline Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 (Vladimir) 10 December 2022 14: 32
          +1
          Quote: Anti-aircraft gunner
          Separately, I take pilots and helicopter pilots out of brackets. These are professionals who cannot be trained in 2 months.

          Right now, the female release of pilots will do. They will show everyone.
          1. anti-aircraft gunner 13 December 2022 09: 13
            0
            Women will not be sent to the NWO.
        2. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 11 December 2022 21: 25
          -1
          and who is fighting the enemy? those mobs! take by number, not skill
          1. anti-aircraft gunner 13 December 2022 08: 58
            0
            We cannot afford to fill holes in the fronts with corpses.
  4. Burtsev Vladimir Dmitrievich (Vladimir) 8 December 2022 20: 59
    0
    Most likely, the Bandera mined the approaches to Artemovsk and equipped firing points. Therefore, it will first be necessary to clear the passages before the assault on Artyomovsk, there are such special vehicles for this. And the firing points of Bandera are detected using UAVs, and then they are destroyed by all means at hand: airborne forces, artillery, Kornet-type anti-tank systems, etc. Good luck to you guys!!!!
  5. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 8 December 2022 21: 18
    +3
    Dreams of dreams.
    1. Esthete Offline Esthete
      Esthete (Vladimir) 9 December 2022 00: 42
      +1
      Some kind of decadent mood, by golly. It is clear that the end is coming soon, and it will be right.
      1. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
        soloist2424 (Oleg) 9 December 2022 10: 42
        -1
        This is true, but then the time of the West will come. So all this, indeed, can be delayed, unfortunately.
      2. Mordvin 3 Offline Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 (Vladimir) 10 December 2022 14: 32
        0
        Quote: Aesthete
        It is clear that the end of 404 is coming soon

        What are the signs of clarity?
  6. garryteeth5gmail.com (harry T) 8 December 2022 21: 38
    +3
    It is necessary to bomb the bridges across the Dnieper. The Armed Forces of Ukraine will last no more than a week without delivery.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 8 December 2022 22: 06
      -2
      forget about the bridges - they can’t be destroyed so easily, only by blowing up the supports (as we did with the Antonovsky bridge), and the bridge in Zatoka, no matter how much it was calibrated, is standing, and the rest will stand
      1. guest Offline guest
        guest 8 December 2022 22: 13
        +7
        Quote: Volkonsky
        forget about the bridges - they are not so easy to destroy

        But there is no need to completely destroy it, since the Antonov bridge was mentioned here, the Bandera people very easily made it unsuitable for transporting military cargo.
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 8 December 2022 23: 04
          0
          what did they do? hymars? what do we have? krasnopol? its range is 20 km and the warhead is several times less, what is the KVO of the calibers? and what about X-555 and X-32? trending all the masters!
          1. guest Offline guest
            guest 8 December 2022 23: 34
            +2
            Belarus and North Korea have analogues of Hymars, you can buy from them once your hands grow from one place.
            1. UAZ 452 Offline UAZ 452
              UAZ 452 (UAZ 452) 9 December 2022 09: 26
              +1
              And in some place did we approach the bridges across the Dnieper at the firing distance of these Haymars analogues? The Ukrainians kept the Antonovsky bridge at gunpoint, unlike us.
              1. guest Offline guest
                guest 9 December 2022 15: 37
                +1
                Quote: UAZ 452
                And in some place we approached the bridges across the Dnieper

                Yes, in March they were near Kyiv.
      2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 9 December 2022 02: 51
        -3
        Volkonsky, well, give zhysh you at the end of these strategists to bomb all the bridges. Well, Caliber doesn’t have enough strength, you need to secretly crawl up and throw a large bunch of anti-bridge (ten times more powerful than anti-tank) grenades and that’s it. In two or three days, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will capitulate! All the end of the NWO curtain closes, cheers-patriots clap their hands! Nata goes home leaving all the weapons and ammunition.
        1. UAZ 452 Offline UAZ 452
          UAZ 452 (UAZ 452) 9 December 2022 09: 28
          +2
          They are probably looking for those who want to crawl to the bridge with these grenades. As soon as they find it, they will. By the way, would you like to volunteer? The title of Hero of Russia, I think, will be guaranteed if successful.
          1. guest Offline guest
            guest 9 December 2022 15: 39
            +2
            There is no need to look for anyone, the terrorist attack on the Crimean bridge showed how this is done from the enemy, here you can learn.
            1. UAZ 452 Offline UAZ 452
              UAZ 452 (UAZ 452) 9 December 2022 18: 01
              +1
              Well, it means that either the Ukrainians are better than we are at guarding and protecting their strategic facilities from sabotage, or we don’t have specialists capable of planning and carrying out such sabotage, and there’s nowhere for them to come from.
              1. guest Offline guest
                guest 9 December 2022 20: 03
                +1
                Quote: UAZ 452
                or we do not have specialists capable of planning and carrying out such sabotage, and there is nowhere for them to come from.

                I think this is the answer.
          2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 December 2022 00: 14
            +1
            UAZ, I raised my son correctly, and since the beginning of the operation in Ukraine, he has been fighting with Bandera. When my turn comes, I am 67 and then I will go to fight with the Ukrofascists.
        2. zenion Offline zenion
          zenion (zinovy) 9 December 2022 17: 05
          0
          Ignatov Oleg Georgievich. Everything can be done much easier. Crawl and put a sign at the entrance to the bridge - travel is prohibited. And quietly crawl away and nothing else is needed. The Ukrainians put signs everywhere - it is forbidden to attack and no one attacks them.
          1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 12 December 2022 02: 11
            0
            zenion, If you mean the prohibition signs on which the names of villages and cities are written, then we, yes, the violators of such prohibitions and many such prohibition signs, have been behind our troops for a long time! I counted up to two hundred, lost my way, spat and did not count any more, because every day more and more new prohibited signs passed by our troops will be added. Well, what can you do, considering that we have not really started yet.
      3. Mordvin 3 Offline Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 (Vladimir) 10 December 2022 14: 33
        0
        Quote: Volkonsky
        it’s not so easy to destroy them, only by blowing up the supports (as we did with the Antonovsky bridge), and the bridge in Zatoka, no matter how much it was calibrated, stands, and the rest will stand

        And the sabotage groups, all, are over?
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    3. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 9 December 2022 03: 10
      -1
      Harry, or whatever I don’t understand correctly, why such straightforward thinking? After all, the simplest solution, at first glance, is the most deceptive. It would seem that it was easier to bomb the bridges and the issue was resolved. Or maybe there is a goal here that neither you nor others, well, just point-blank do not want to see? Maybe everything is easier? Surovikin created a well-fortified shooting range where the role of targets was assigned to the advancing Ukrofascists. By luring these non-humans out of the cities and fortifying the districts into * an open field *, our troops destroy, first of all, the manpower of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And bridges only help to destroy more and more new arrivals of both equipment and manpower, that is, Bandera from all over Ukraine and foreign mercenaries. The commander of the Wagners said bluntly - For us, in the first place is not the reconquered territory, but the destruction of the enemy's manpower. After all, Zelya's goal is to win back at all costs by advancing by any means. So let them come ... targets. Of course, you need to master the tactics of air defense, but as they say - Everything will be, and Moscow was not built right away.
      1. UAZ 452 Offline UAZ 452
        UAZ 452 (UAZ 452) 9 December 2022 09: 34
        +2
        I’m sure that even if in six months or a year government offices are transferred beyond the Urals due to bombing, and bridges across the Volga are mined to stop the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then there will be those who will see this as some kind of cunning plan and sincerely assure everyone that this contributes to the final victory and it was and was intended from the very beginning.
        1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 December 2022 00: 18
          -1
          UAZ dream moshshsh it will become easier. Do you really want the APU to reach the Urals?
          1. guest Offline guest
            guest 11 December 2022 00: 27
            0
            Of course, I can’t answer for him, but our fifth column definitely wants it.
            1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 12 December 2022 02: 18
              +1
              guest, what a pity that I am not the president of Russia (I didn’t give a tail to the toad), I would have sent all this rotten party, the fifth column, on the rack. But I am sure that sooner or later our president will run out of patience, God forbid.
      2. sasha 82 Offline sasha 82
        sasha 82 9 December 2022 11: 45
        0
        And they themselves will undermine the bridges when they retreat!
      3. zenion Offline zenion
        zenion (zinovy) 9 December 2022 17: 09
        +1
        And if they do not cross over bridges, but over ice? Will they guess to shoot at them, or will they have to crawl away and run? After all, they will do everything wrong, so to speak - against the grain.
  7. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 8 December 2022 21: 39
    +4
    With our current collaborativeness and some jitters at the top .. little will change for the better for Russia. IMHO.
    1. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
      soloist2424 (Oleg) 9 December 2022 10: 49
      -2
      Do not confuse politeness with cowardice. There was cowardice during the Yeltsin era, when they gave the West everything they wanted, destroyed their own industry for bonuses and a condescending pat on the back. Yes, now they don’t tear the vest on the chest and don’t get into a fight if this can be avoided, but when necessary, they don’t run away from it.
      1. zenion Offline zenion
        zenion (zinovy) 9 December 2022 17: 10
        +2
        Then, in the Yeltsin era, plants and factories were cowardly destroyed, now they do it politely.
        1. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
          soloist2424 (Oleg) 9 December 2022 18: 45
          0
          Recently, I see how, basically, new factories are opening. Give facts, preferably not about two separate factories closing, but statistics: liquidated / opened.
          1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 12 December 2022 02: 22
            0
            Soloist, no one from the zenion community can bring such facts, but it’s easy to put a minus.
            1. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
              soloist2424 (Oleg) 12 December 2022 09: 54
              0
              Why argue if there are no facts? Or is it from the "everyone knows" series?
  8. Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
    Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 8 December 2022 21: 42
    +4
    you can gouge the ways of transporting weapons from the west, you can blind and damage some satellites, move and break through the front, surround and capture thousands of aircraft
    but I’m sure that these gangs (survivors from the front, 2-3 rear defense belts) will retreat to large cities, to prepared positions, with ammo and weapons prepared there, not just to the nearest ones, but to those that are strategically beneficial to them
    how are we going to take them, from the march? put hundreds of thousands of our
    in my opinion, changes should begin, somewhere with a breakthrough and the environment of the lop-eared, covering the infrastructure, industrial, scientific, energy enterprises
    but the fact that we will reach Lviv in a short time, six months or a year, I don’t see such speeds
    logistics for the supply of ammo, fuel, etc. is increasing, who will be able to protect them, accompany them when the enemy is operating in the rear, we will not have enough current strength
    as soon as possible, we will close the ways of supplying weapons to the Armed Forces, turn off the electricity and the enterprises that are still operating in Ukraine, and we will grind with battles to save our guys in the field
    the less banderlogs remain later in the cities, the easier it will be to free them
    while carefully following the movements of Nata
  9. Jstas Offline Jstas
    Jstas (jstas) 8 December 2022 21: 43
    +2
    Putin promised... a doubling of GDP, no increase in the retirement age, no war on Russian territory / Kursk, Belgorod, Engels, not to mention Donetsk, Kherson, today is no longer Russia? /...
    1. Robinson Offline Robinson
      Robinson (Paul) 8 December 2022 23: 52
      0
      And where was it said about the absence of hostilities on the territory of the Russian Federation? This is a common occurrence in events like this.
  10. Robinson Offline Robinson
    Robinson (Paul) 8 December 2022 23: 48
    +1
    (we have, if necessary, plus another 300 thousand bayonets every three months, ..
    An interesting phrase. I hope this is not a prerequisite for the next waves of mobilization?
    1. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
      soloist2424 (Oleg) 9 December 2022 10: 51
      0
      Can't be excluded. If full-fledged Polish and Romanian divisions trample across the border, it may be necessary.
      1. Robinson Offline Robinson
        Robinson (Paul) 9 December 2022 11: 30
        -3
        A couple of terrorist attacks on the territory of the Russian Federation, as a result, martial law and full mobilization .. I hope it doesn’t come to this .. There will be so much squealing from couch experts ..
  11. Alex D Online Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 9 December 2022 00: 07
    -1
    Quote: Burtsev Vladimir Dmitrievich
    I am most interested in the question: "When will our huckster oligarchs stop deliveries of strategic goods to the United States: energy carriers and metals: titanium, aluminum, chromium, nickel, etc.?" Now it turns out that some people in Russia are giving their lives for Russia, while others, meanwhile, are making billions of dollars selling Russia's interests. This is a total betrayal! Stalin shot them. And in the PRC, such traitors are now being shot! And with Artyomovsk, it's time to finish the almshouse there. To bypass Artyomovsk on both sides along the flanks of tanks under the cover of the Aerospace Forces and drones, cut off all the VFU in Artemovsk, deprive them of all supplies and destroy all the combat positions of Bandera with the help of artillery. And then to launch tanks with special forces and airborne troops on Artyomovsk again, having previously launched capture groups dressed in Bandera uniforms into Artyomovsk itself to capture and destroy the most important objects in Artyomovsk itself from the inside. Plus, launch another airborne assault in the forested areas of the city and the territories previously cleared by artillery adjacent to the important objects of Artyomovsk. And you are all brainwashing about Surovikin. Artyomovsk could have been taken for a long time!!!!

    The war is being dragged out, being waged according to the NATO scenario. Initially, I did not believe in Minsky-1 .. . The Americans trained 30 foreign agents in Russia in 600 years under USAID. (see Deputy Fedorov). There should have been a war back in 2014. to start, but they started in 2022 and even called NWO !!!, although this is a war, and not any NWO. Simply, if martial law would be introduced, then traitors to the people, major government officials would not be allowed to steal and military finance would be introduced. Why do you think Medvedev spoke about the return of the death penalty? You need to return, better late than never!
    I can only justify the postponement of the war to 2022 by the presence of better combat systems in NATO for 2014. That same does not cancel sabotage and treason in the rear!!!
    1. 1_2 Offline 1_2
      1_2 (Ducks are flying) 9 December 2022 01: 38
      +2
      if in 22g there are problems with providing the Army, and in 14g after Serdyukov, the Army was generally incapable of combat. except for special forces. who took the Crimea without a fight. because there was no APU at all, and it was ... loyal to the Russian Federation. maybe it was worth taking a risk in 14, in Kyiv the whole Maidan gang expected the invasion of the Russian Federation and was already at the start to get out of the country, because it did not have the support of the Armed Forces of Ukraine of the SBU police. for 8 years, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Security Service of Ukraine have actually become part of NATO. they almost never even surrender (with the exception of the cowardly Nazis), preferring to die (not understanding what kind of Zionists the US is.) like this they were pumped with Russophobic propaganda, and they also promised a beautiful life in the EU, to envy the "maskals".)) in this case, they simply have to be disposed of, and in 14g the Armed Forces of Ukraine could go over to the side of the Russian Federation. that is, if by the year 14 the Russian Army had not been "castrated" by the reforms of the Commander-in-Chief and his Kent liberals (NATO agents), then the Head Tsar would have decided to send troops to Ukraine. being confident in the combat capability of the Russian Army. and perhaps even without a fight would have eliminated the Maydan Zionist regime of the United States. here, of course, the question arises: is the Tsar commander-in-chief adequate? did he not understand what the reforms of the Army would lead to? and including reforms in the offshore leaky economy (when the gold reserves are with enemies)? it turns out that he himself did not understand, and did not listen to knowledgeable, knowledgeable specialists. he only trusts his corefans, the multimillionaires who are all on the CIA's hook. because ... they want to hang out and live in the West (Chubais, Kudrins, Khloponins, Yumashevs, etc.), maybe he himself would like to live carefree in the West, an ordinary billionaire, only the West does not give any guarantees of life even to its agents.
      1. GIS Offline GIS
        GIS (Ildus) 9 December 2022 09: 53
        +1
        you somehow familiarly speak of GDP. well, maybe you are also fooling around with your loved ones, well, only God will be your judge here ...
        with regards to

        it turns out that he himself did not understand, and did not listen to knowledgeable experts. he only trusts his corefans, the multimillionaires who are all on the CIA's hook.

        well, the plant director listens to the opinions of his narrow-profile subordinates, and it’s not a fact that they are all really specialists. (and not CIA employees like under Yeltsin)
        which VVP recently mentioned in an answer to journalists about 2014 ... Surkov and a couple of other politicians were responsible for the former Ukrainian SSR and "did not last"
      2. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
        soloist2424 (Oleg) 9 December 2022 10: 56
        -1
        One cannot judge this without having all the data. Was the loyalty of China and India secured in 2014? Was the banking system ready to turn off Swift? To what extent was the Russian military-industrial complex ready to do without Ukrainian industry, etc.? It was possible to take Ukraine in 2014 and lose Russia.
        1. guest Offline guest
          guest 9 December 2022 17: 21
          +3
          And now we have the loyalty of China and India? And the readiness of the banking system has not changed.

          Quote from solist2424
          To what extent was the Russian military-industrial complex ready to do without Ukrainian industry

          Well, this is generally a strange question, Ukrainian industry would become Russian and these problems of the military-industrial complex have been resolved.
          1. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
            soloist2424 (Oleg) 9 December 2022 18: 42
            -2
            And now we have the loyalty of China and India?

            Yes. They, of course, do not send their troops to fight in the Donbass, but they do not form an alliance with the enemies of Russia, despite the offered bonuses, they actively trade with Russia. Thus, the country did not end up in isolation, which the Western media loves to shout about so much.

            Well, this is generally a strange question, Ukrainian industry would become Russian and these problems of the military-industrial complex have been resolved.

            Many Soviet factories were captured by the Germans in 1941?
            1. guest Offline guest
              guest 9 December 2022 20: 07
              0
              Quote from solist2424
              Many Soviet factories were captured by the Germans in 1941?

              I didn't quite understand the question. Are you comparing us to the Nazis?
              1. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
                soloist2424 (Oleg) 9 December 2022 20: 40
                +1
                No. I just noticed that when the territory is captured, the plants are either taken out or exploded.
                And come on, you didn’t seem to drink together.
      3. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 12 December 2022 02: 31
        +1
        1_2 You can take risks In case of failure, your life is behind your back, perhaps relatives, and Putin is strictly forbidden to take risks behind his back, an entire country and tens of millions of lives of the population. How easy it is for you ... One-two (1_2) and you're done!
    2. rish Offline rish
      rish (Rish) 9 December 2022 04: 21
      +3
      Again 25, as long as possible, passed, we know. You will be the first to be shot. The experience of China shows that they steal there, including generals, in wagons, cash was only recently taken out from some general for several days by trucks. If about treacherous articles that are carried out in closed regimes, then it will simply be a showdown and excesses for the sake of the plan.
    3. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 9 December 2022 17: 12
      0
      Afraid to introduce the death penalty? What if there aren't enough bullets for everyone?
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  13. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 9 December 2022 01: 02
    +3
    I dare to suggest that the winter offensive of the RF Armed Forces will begin with a downed NATO satellite or several Musk satellites ..

    - the beater has not yet grown among those who have palaces and yachts in NATO countries. they could not release Bout for 15 years, fearing to arrest stray Yankee tourists in the Russian Federation). you will have to fight further under NATO satellites, which means that in the clusters of Russian Armies they can hammer with Haimars.
    in this case, all hope for cloudiness and Torah-Shell. it is necessary to attack not on the forehead, but to take it into the boilers, and for this there must be more fighters on the front section than the enemy. For 8 months they fought in the minority, hoping for the Aerospace Forces, they thought how we would gouge everything in Iraq from the air, only in Iraq there is a semi-desert and everything is visible from above. including air defense.
    but in greenery this will not work, Buk can turn on unexpectedly and shoot from behind a bush. In winter, VKS and Ross satellites will be easier to detect air defense and equipment
  14. borisvt Offline borisvt
    borisvt (boris) 9 December 2022 01: 40
    +4
    The author is bold and traditionally optimistic, it is pleasant and inspiring after the well-known events, referring to the attack on our airfields. And I fully agree with his logical and decisive conclusion that it is time to put an end to the espionage of the Mahars, and then act according to the circumstances.
    There is, of course, something to argue:
    1. Second-generation Starlinks, which have been launched since the fall of 2021, cannot be upset with the help of ground stations:

    The new generation of Starlink devices (v1.5) is equipped with a laser communication system. It allows satellites to communicate with each other, which eliminates intermediate ground stations from the chain and removes distance restrictions.

    so, it remains to be hoped that the author is informed about our engineers who undertake to provide

    disruption of the spacecraft self-organization system

    2. Given the notoriety of comrade. Surovikin is with our enemies, it is strange to assume that he will immediately rush to Lvov, defiantly announcing this maneuver with Kuzhugetych's visit to Minsk. I would start with Odessa, and preferably not destroy it too much, because I do not lose hope to visit there and enjoy the view of architecture, and not charred ruins. On the other hand, how will
  15. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 9 December 2022 02: 12
    0
    Only the uneducated do not know that no one is going to defeat the Ukrainians! This is not a jingoistic patriot, but a traitor to the Motherland.
    The author writes about some kind of notorious black mark. Obviously, there is a desire to show off personal knowledge of information about which no one except the interested parties knows at all. Although ... The author knows everything! The black mark is actually a sentence. Not a war, nor anything else at all - the verdict is not subject to appeal. This husband would have driven off against the backdrop of general mobilization, already knowing that he himself had already become a legitimate target for our air defense. The angel would have become a simple angel without any mythical attributes, and millions in America would have been waiting for them to become velvet beings.
    But ... it worked out, so they spoke without any marks. And in general, maybe the author so believed in the devil knows what strength of the Americans that even the thought does not allow that they themselves can very easily hand over this black mark!
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 9 December 2022 03: 57
      +2
      uncle, where did you see the strength of the Americans there? so far, I see only our weakness ... and they wipe their feet on the weak ...

      he who knows does not speak, he who speaks does not know!

      (special services rule)

      one who does - does not say, one who says - does not

      Putin needs to stop talking - it's time to do something
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 December 2022 19: 56
        0
        SW. author, you and I have radically opposite views on events in Ukraine. You write -

        ... after the destruction of Ukraine as a territorial misunderstanding ...

        I wonder where you got the idea that the same Putin set the goal initially or now - the destruction of Ukraine? If there are rats in the house, this does not mean that in order to destroy them, you need to burn (destroy) the entire house in which rats have always lived since the moment of construction. So we have to gradually relocate the residents of this house to relatives so that they do not get poisoned with poison to rid this house of rats.

        They wipe their feet on the weak...

        It's embarrassing, annoying, but okay.
        And what would you like to consider yourself a titular nation that would wipe its feet on the weak? Why such chauvinism? And the equality of nations and peoples and the multipolar world are somehow present in your worldview, at least? And in general, what do you call ... our weakness? And if we show our strength, then how should it be expressed, I wonder? Arrange a global nuclear war in all directions? And the population of the rest of the world (the entire planet as a whole) is somehow to blame for this manifestation of power somewhere? And in this case, what aphorism is acceptable for special services in this case? The conflict is on the rise, it is impossible to stop it until the goals and tasks set for the NWO by our president are fulfilled. And the rest - a new war, new ways of waging it, new weapons and new means of counteraction. There is nothing new in war as in war. Weakness or strength? Chicks are counted in the fall. This I mean that no one can predict anything without knowing the real state of affairs at the front and all sorts of backstage. For example, some smart people here among commentators call NWO a strange war. Nope, the Second World War was strange because there was no exchange of captured Nazis for captured Red Army soldiers!
    2. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 9 December 2022 17: 17
      +3
      The author of this opus reminds one anecdote from a boxing battle.

      The boxers fought and fought and suddenly stopped. Hall in a whistle. Screams and stuff. The chief judge explains that wait, they will start now, it's just that the fighters do not keep up with the commentator.
  16. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 9 December 2022 07: 43
    +1
    Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
    Do you even realize that something like this is completely impossible?

    Somewhere we have already heard such tales. Tell the capital that flows over the hill in billions.

    Every penny counts.

    if it were 300 billion that somewhere they would have hung at home, and fight on them. This time, and secondly, we were told that we had been preparing for war all these years, why didn’t we prepare well? Of course, since 300 tons of those who went to fight for the regular army could not be dressed, which, it turns out, did not fulfill their tasks.

    Those who stole either no longer exist or have been sitting for a long time.

    you had a lot of fun, thanks. Tell this to the general that he was responsible for the MTO, and now, instead of sitting down, he has a position cooler than it was, he is now an auditor)))))))

    What day do you propose to fight? From the population to tear the last? The people are helping out. So where to get the money, Zin?

    Why then did they get involved at all?
    Many thanks to our fathers, grandfathers and the USSR that he spared no effort to accumulate an arsenal so much that we can still fight with them, and we have no analogues in the world in piece form and are covered for parades and biathlons and the cut of the dough on them was, I think, colossal.
    1. GIS Offline GIS
      GIS (Ildus) 9 December 2022 09: 59
      -1
      Tell this to the general that he was responsible for the MTO, and now, instead of sitting down, he has a position cooler than he was, he is now an auditor

      well, only a thief knows how to REALLY find and STOP A THIEF

      what is poorly prepared?

      - and you can never (!!!) prepare well for it

      Many thanks to our fathers, grandfathers and the USSR that he spared no effort to accumulate an arsenal so much that we can still fight them

      - I agree here - they prepared thoroughly and for good (if you want peace, prepare for war. Like all post-Soviet countries, we live on the basis of the USSR. Thanks to them for this.

      and having no analogues in the world, we have it in piece form and sheathed for parades and biathlons, and the cut of the dough on them was, I think, colossal.

      I think the meeting at Mishustin put a lot in place, and now we will see this in battles on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 December 2022 20: 38
      -2
      Valera, you are so smart that I really envied you. How do you see international trade? Maybe you should start with this? Nah, well, we won’t take into account the grandmas for the purchase of goods for the country as a whole in suitcases, we don’t sell drugs like in videos, right? So the capital of the whole world, and Russian capital is no exception, operates according to one well-established optimal scheme. Everything else is black cash, that is, a crime in the trading community, which undermines trust and refusal to work and keep up with such * partners *.
      With this, I think we figured it out.
      300 billion. That's it, they hung somewhere, but they have not gone anywhere and cannot go anywhere. In the future, I'm sure they will return with interest, as it should be with an addition - non-receipt of the intended benefit (or whatever it is called, but the meaning is the same)
      Who told you that we were preparing for war? We were preparing for the defense of our country, do you see the difference, or do you need to explain that preparing for war is the transition of the entire industry to a military footing? Forgotten the poor people in the USSR? Forgot the arms race? Forgotten what all this led to?
      Someone went to fight for the regular army? Et how? And Nata will attack. You will go to war or the regular army of which has yet to complete its tasks. Where are you in a hurry? Couldn't get dressed? And what are the people at the front fighting in civilian adits now? You ushshsh somehow more truthful, okay?
      Tell the general .... Judge the entire army by one general? But if they imprisoned you right away, it would be easier to live, right?
      Why then at all got involved? And you don’t write from Ukraine by any chance, dear, huh? Otherwise they would not have asked such a not quite, uh, smart question.
      Saw the dough. Judge for yourself, but there is no possibility, right? After all, I think about the colossal ...
  17. Sergei N Offline Sergei N
    Sergei N (Sergey N) 9 December 2022 09: 41
    -1
    Let's wait and see what will or will not happen with NATO, the UN, the EU, etc., etc.
    But with the hohlandia you need to finish! To begin with, they cut down the entire energy infrastructure to zero. Stop waiting, you need to hit the high-voltage transformer substations. It is necessary to bomb Hohlandia into the Stone Age so that there is no water, no light, no gas!
  18. DO Offline DO
    DO (Dmitriy) 9 December 2022 10: 32
    +3
    The surrender of Kherson made it easier for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to isolate Crimea on land. Repeated attempts to blow up the Crimean bridge are very likely.
    In principle, a strike of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Moscow through the northern Ukrainian-Russian border is not ruled out. Therefore, in the winter of 2022-2023, it is important to reliably eliminate at least these threats.
    And of course, I would like visible success not only on the left bank of the Dnieper, but also in the liberation of the right bank from the Ukronazis, including Kyiv.
    --
    By satellites. The destruction (and not the mythical attacks of hackers) of Starlink ground terminals, which the UAF uses for military purposes, should not lead to any escalation with the West. It is high time to do this already.
  19. gene1 Offline gene1
    gene1 (Gennady) 9 December 2022 10: 47
    -6
    The article is good.

    the direction of the main strike will be chosen from Belarus to Lutsk-Lviv and below, in order to cut off the supply routes of Western weapons to Ukraine.

    This is what I consider an adventure.
    1) Stretching a 150 thousand grouping over 1000-1500 km without air cover, with difficult support logistics - a war crime.
    2) Well, already at different levels (up to Putin) it has been said that Western weapons are not capable of having a significant impact on the front line. Why cut off its supply lines with such victims?
    3) Arms deliveries bleed the West, graters begin between Western countries, so I think NATO will disintegrate before the European Union. Why cut off its supply routes?
    1. DO Offline DO
      DO (Dmitriy) 9 December 2022 11: 38
      +3
      Why cut off its supply routes?

      That is, Russian fighters on the front line should wait and hope that shells will run out in the West?
      1. gene1 Offline gene1
        gene1 (Gennady) 9 December 2022 11: 58
        -2
        And what have we been doing for eight months, aren’t we waiting?
        1. DO Offline DO
          DO (Dmitriy) 9 December 2022 15: 24
          +2
          And what have we been doing for eight months, aren’t we waiting?

          Yes you are right. We are waiting for it to end faster, shells or soldiers.
          But does this correspond at least to military textbooks (let's leave common sense outside the discussion)?
  20. gene1 Offline gene1
    gene1 (Gennady) 9 December 2022 10: 54
    +1
    the direction of the main strike will be chosen from Belarus to Lutsk-Lviv and below, in order to cut off the supply routes of Western weapons to Ukraine.

    If we talk about directions, I think the preferred direction from Belarus along the Dnieper is the cutoff of Chernihiv, Sumy, Poltava, Kharkov, and part of the Dnepropetrovsk regions. Accordingly, on a collision course. And the most likely is regional push-ups, starting from Chernihiv.

    And in general, maybe the grouping of the RF Armed Forces is reserved in Belarus to keep the Poles from sending troops.
  21. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
    soloist2424 (Oleg) 9 December 2022 11: 03
    -2
    Why then did they get involved at all?

    And who asked us?
    1. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 9 December 2022 11: 58
      +3
      Quote from solist2424
      And who asked us?

      they asked, at the elections in 2018, at the zeroing of the constitution in 2020 ...
      1. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
        soloist2424 (Oleg) 9 December 2022 14: 45
        -1
        I'm not talking about that. The Anglo-Saxons imposed military confrontation on Russia. And when you do not choose the time and place, you have to adapt to the circumstances.
        1. Nelton Offline Nelton
          Nelton (Oleg) 9 December 2022 15: 24
          +1
          Quote from solist2424
          The Anglo-Saxons imposed military confrontation on Russia.

          NWO began by order of the President of the Russian Federation.
          everything else is speculation.

          The alternative has been voiced over and over again.
          evacuation of the population of the LDNR from ~ 20 km of the zone with its transformation into a continuous fortified area.
          8 years on it was.

          As for the Anglo-Saxons, they have no reason to stir up trouble in a state with nuclear weapons, with the likely transition to China's protectorate of Siberia, and at the same time Central Asia.
          That is why they do not give long-range missiles / drones to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
          But they also could not leave the encroachment on their role of world hegemon without reaction.
          1. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
            soloist2424 (Oleg) 9 December 2022 15: 58
            +1
            SVO began by order of the President of the Russian Federation, everything else is speculation.

            Of course! For six months, it was announced at all levels that NATO should not approach the borders of Russia, the notorious red lines were drawn, they said that the answer would not be in the diplomatic sphere, but the NWO began by order of the President of the Russian Federation. Then the Second World War began on the orders of Stalin.
            And the Caribbean crisis also started from scratch? What threat could American missiles in Turkey pose for the USSR and Soviet missiles in Cuba for America?

            As for the Anglo-Saxons, they have no reason to stir up trouble in a state with nuclear weapons, with the likely transition to China's protectorate of Siberia, and at the same time Central Asia

            First, they plan and regularly try to create problems for China as well. Second, establish your own control over Siberia. Thirdly, how can it not be beneficial to stir up trouble with a geopolitical rival, albeit with nuclear weapons? Moreover, you don’t always make such a mess from a good life, choosing the least of the risks.
            1. Nelton Offline Nelton
              Nelton (Oleg) 9 December 2022 16: 38
              -1
              Quote from solist2424
              For six months, it was announced at all levels that NATO should not approach the borders of Russia

              Hmm, a recognized state wants to join one or another union.
              Other states have no right to indicate whether to join or not.
              You can stop trading, you can withdraw from treaties on the limitation of certain weapons, but this is not a basis for aggression.

              Then the Second World War began on the orders of Stalin.

              no logic.

              And the Caribbean crisis also started from scratch? What threat could American missiles in Turkey pose for the USSR and Soviet missiles in Cuba for America?

              First, no missiles were deployed in Ukraine.
              Secondly, Latvia, Estonia, Romania, Norway have long been NATO countries, and if missiles are placed in them, then their additional deployment in Ukraine will not change the alignment.
              But there are no missiles in Estonia either.
              By the way, Finland has joined NATO.
              According to your logic, is it necessary to resist the invasion of Finland?

              Quote from solist2424
              How can it not be profitable to stir up trouble with a geopolitical rival, albeit with nuclear weapons?

              Well, Kadyrov will come to power and press the trigger.
              What for them such risks?

              Quote from solist2424
              establish your own control over Siberia

              Yes, they could not establish control in Iraq, they did not even try in Libya.
              Although there is convenient logistics by sea.
              And Siberia - the Far East - Central Asia - is completely inconvenient for them, and China - to cross the border and "take protection" of the Trans-Siberian.
              1. guest Offline guest
                guest 9 December 2022 16: 46
                0
                Quote from Nelton.
                Hmm, a recognized state wants to join one or another union.
                Other states have no right to indicate whether to join or not.

                If we are talking about Finland, then Russia has such a right, as it is a violation of the Paris agreement.
              2. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
                soloist2424 (Oleg) 9 December 2022 18: 51
                +1
                Hmm, a recognized state wants to join one or another union.

                The trouble is that the USSR was given guarantees that NATO would not expand to the East.

                Yes, they could not establish control in Iraq, they did not even try in Libya.

                Interesting, right? They cannot establish control, but they climb.
                It is not necessary to establish control over the entire territory, it is enough over areas, preferably where there is oil, as, for example, in Nigeria. Or in Afghanistan, where there are drugs.
              3. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
                soloist2424 (Oleg) 9 December 2022 20: 49
                +2
                First, no missiles were deployed in Ukraine.

                By the way, no one pulled Zelensky by the tongue that Ukraine would have its own nuclear weapons.
                And Stoltenberg too: "The United States can deploy nuclear weapons in Eastern Europe if Germany refuses to keep them on its territory."
              4. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 December 2022 23: 15
                +2
                Nelton, no recognized state has the right to kill its own population with its armed forces to pursue an aggressive policy against another state. Moskalyak to Gilyak and Bandera torchlight processions with calls to kill the population of another country - Russian ban on the Russian language of Russian Orthodoxy, demolitions of monuments to the heroes of the Second World War and the founders of Ukraine itself, how is that? Would you stop talking nonsense already, me? Or have you yourself killed the Russians and are sure that you are at war with the invaders? How do you even turn your tongue to write this?
                1. Nelton Offline Nelton
                  Nelton (Oleg) 12 December 2022 12: 02
                  0
                  Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
                  Moskalyak to Gilyak and Bandera torchlight processions with calls to kill the population of another country - Russian ban on the Russian language of Russian Orthodoxy, demolitions of monuments to the heroes of the Second World War and the founders of Ukraine itself, how is that?

                  This is all very unfortunate, but this is their internal affair.
                  An adequate response to this would be to provide asylum to everyone who would like to leave all this from Ukraine, and to stop trading.
                  Including ammonia lines.
                  And building such an economy that those who remained in Ukraine would envy those who left.

                  Iran shouts the same a lot of things at Israel, the reaction is exactly this - a boycott in trade.

                  Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
                  no recognized state has the right to kill its own population with its armed forces

                  And what did the RF Armed Forces do in Chechnya?

                  Quote from solist2424
                  The USSR was given guarantees

                  No written guarantees were given.
                  Orally, there were some vague phrases, nothing more.
            2. Robinson Offline Robinson
              Robinson (Paul) 10 December 2022 10: 15
              0
              China is also not as simple as they draw .. how many times have we had them over the past centuries, violating treaties and "privatizing" their lands? A pact was also concluded with Germany before World War II, but in the end we know what happened .. Russia is a huge territory and it will always be a tasty morsel for others to bite off a piece of the pie unfortunately
  22. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
    soloist2424 (Oleg) 9 December 2022 11: 07
    0
    An upbeat article and hopefully a lot of it will come true. But I would not declare war on the States. Yes, in fact, it is going on, but it has not yet been officially announced, the US government needs to prove to its people all the time why they should give ukrams such large sums. If war is officially declared, American political forces will rally; why do we need it? Let them squabble.
  23. Nelton Offline Nelton
    Nelton (Oleg) 9 December 2022 11: 14
    +2
    The European Union as a supranational international entity will begin to fall apart, the 27 states that make it up are deprived of access to cheap Russian energy resources

    Well, I will buy the same Russian resources through intermediaries, or resources from Asia-Africa-Latin America.
    I have already given calculations, in the price of high-tech products, the cost of raw materials sometimes falls short of 1%, rarely exceeds 5%.
    So slandering problems in the EU is out of sheer desperation.

    But the Russian Federation will have everything for this - both resources and

    But the Russian Federation already has and will continue to have problems (so far not critical, but unpleasant) both with the purchase of technologies / equipment and with the sale of export goods / services.
    Regardless of the outcome of the SVR.
    At least a victory with access to the border with Poland (probability of 0,01%), at least a veiled surrender, at least a push on a certain front line with mutual shelling.

    will enter the Russian Federation only in the form of regions-subjects

    Why do we need them?
    These millions of new citizens who sincerely hate the Russian Federation (and there is a reason for that), recalling with nostalgia the times when they went to the EU to work?
    And what will it give the rest of the subjects of the Russian Federation and their citizens?
    1. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
      soloist2424 (Oleg) 9 December 2022 16: 03
      0
      Well, I will buy the same Russian resources through intermediaries, or resources from Asia-Africa-Latin America

      What's stopping them from doing it now? Why are sanctions imposed? Why was the oil price ceiling introduced? They would chuckle to themselves and stock up on gas and oil from Brazil.
    2. guest Offline guest
      guest 9 December 2022 16: 52
      0
      Quote from Nelton.
      Why do we need them?

      Well, to you, whoever is meant by this, I don’t know why, but these regions will be useful to Russia, and this is not even to mention historical justice.

      Quote from Nelton.
      These millions of new citizens who sincerely hate the Russian Federation (and for good reason)

      And for what?

      Quote from Nelton.
      And what will it give the rest of the subjects of the Russian Federation and their citizens?

      Security in the way that will push the border with the enemy further to the west.
      1. Nelton Offline Nelton
        Nelton (Oleg) 9 December 2022 17: 05
        +2
        Quote: guest
        Security in the way that will push the border with the enemy further to the west.

        In fact, they received Finland's entry into NATO.
        And the Sumy region, closest to Msk, was left in the spring.
        Plus, the general strengthening of anti-Russian sentiment in the countries of the West with the growth of military spending.
        those. security, on the contrary, has been significantly reduced.

        And for what?

        For the bombing of power grids, at least.
        1. guest Offline guest
          guest 9 December 2022 17: 13
          0
          Quote from Nelton.
          Plus a general increase in anti-Russian sentiment in the countries of the West

          This is not an increase, just hidden Russophobia has now become open, and this is even better because the enemy is no longer hiding.

          Quote from Nelton.
          For the bombing of power grids, at least.

          NATO arranged even worse bombings, but they are not afraid of any hatred.
          1. Nelton Offline Nelton
            Nelton (Oleg) 9 December 2022 17: 33
            +2
            Quote: guest
            NATO arranged even worse bombings, but they are not afraid of any hatred.

            So the NATO countries do not annex the bombed territories.
            1. guest Offline guest
              guest 9 December 2022 20: 00
              0
              Well, Yugoslavia is already being annexed in parts.
        2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 December 2022 22: 25
          0
          Nelton, I didn’t hear that Finland joined NATO. Erdogan did not seem to agree. Maybe I'm wrong.
    3. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 December 2022 22: 42
      -1
      Nelton, why should millions hate? Who hates and exerts forceful opposition will be simply destroyed. The remaining adequate people will hate Bandera.
      And in general, Nelton, be careful with hatred. Otherwise, you just have to think about the hatred of the civilians of Donbass, which the Ukrofascists have been killing for eight years and are still killing to this day. Or relatives of dead Russian soldiers. It is not for you to solve such difficult questions if you have enough mind (or rather not enough) to talk about hatred.
  24. Andrey Vylev Offline Andrey Vylev
    Andrey Vylev (Andrey Vylev) 9 December 2022 11: 23
    +4
    Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
    Burtsev, but I'm interested in the question: If not * our huckster oligarchs * then who will replenish the state budget of the country? You and others like you? You do not like the word oligarchs, replace it with trade representatives of Russia. And in general, who hammered it into your head that trade goes past the state and some * huckster-oligarchs * add all the money they receive to themselves personally? Do you even realize that something like this is completely impossible? Every penny counts. Those who stole either no longer exist or have been sitting for a long time. The family is not without its freaks. But do you know at least about how many millions of dollars (and in rubles it’s generally scary how much) Russia spends on one day of the NWO? What day do you propose to fight? From the population to tear the last? The people are helping out. So where do you get the money, Zin? Maybe enough already about * huckster-oligarchs * or do you think that everyone who reads is stupid children?

    And the Chubais, Deripaskas, Abramovichs and other parasites who stole trillions of dollars in prison???
    And before talking about replenishing the budget, you first answer what it is money, why should the budget be based on these criminal oligarchs???
    Why is Russia today a commodity colony of the global satanic financial mafia???
    Why is the Central Bank of Russia tied to the global financial system and the ruble exchange rate depends on the dollar exchange rate???
    Why in Russia, which can be a completely self-sufficient state, and replenish its budget on its own without various parasite speculators, this has not yet been done, and one has to buy chips, for example, from abroad ???
    And as for parasite speculators, in principle, they should not exist at all in one normal society !!!!
    As for Bulgaria, and not only Bulgaria, but all of Europe, and are controlled by the fifth column of the global financial mafia - these are local Jews and local traitors !!!
    Otherwise, the Bulgarians and most of them are for Russia
    By the way, Russia is also controlled by the Jews!
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 9 December 2022 14: 59
      +6
      one answer can be given to everything why, because Russia is now an integral part of the capitalist system and those who manage this system assigned Russia the role of a raw material appendage serving the main players. We accepted their terms of the game and all the attempts of the Kremlin will lead to nothing as long as we are under their control, they dictate the terms and rules. So there is only one way out - to change the system of social relations again, and this is a new revolution
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 December 2022 23: 52
        -2
        Rotkiv, will you overthrow the government legally elected by the population of the country? And the population will silently watch on the sidelines, so you see it? Yes, and do you know that the USSR was in the same position? So why do you write - Russia NOW?
        1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
          rotkiv04 (Victor) 11 December 2022 10: 09
          +1
          Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
          Rotkiv, will you overthrow the government legally elected by the population of the country? And the population will silently watch on the sidelines, so you see it? Yes, and do you know that the USSR was in the same position? So why do you write - Russia NOW?

          the first one, where I wrote that I was going to overthrow the government, read what is written, and don’t think for others, and the second one here was in a row to be a gag on the site? under each post is your scribble, don’t stand like that, the authorities won’t appreciate you
          1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 12 December 2022 02: 54
            0
            Rotkiv, what do you order to sing along to all sorts of whiners and outright provocateurs, liars and find fault with Russia and the president and the General Staff and everything in general? How bad everything is with us, and the oligarchs are thieves, and the devil knows what else? Well, no, sorry. Either the truth or nothing!
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 December 2022 22: 06
      -3
      Andrey, a question for filling - Why are you not Chubais or Deribaska or Abramovich or hundreds of other people of the same kind? Answer and immediately everything will become clear. And so I don’t see the point in proving to anyone that the Earth is round and not flat. Your demogogy comment is nothing more than calculated for people like you. Complete ignorance of the subject. Some depend, lie and slander!
      1. Mordvin 3 Offline Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 (Vladimir) 10 December 2022 23: 01
        +1
        Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
        Complete ignorance of the subject. Some depend, lie and slander!

        What is slander?
        1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 December 2022 12: 40
          -1
          Mordvin - ... who stole trillions of dollars. This is already comparable to the budget of the whole of America, probably. Bring more? Although no, just read for yourself what is written there.
          1. Mordvin 3 Offline Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 (Vladimir) 11 December 2022 12: 50
            0
            Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
            Mordvin - ... who stole trillions of dollars. This is already comparable to the budget of the whole of America, probably. Bring more?

            I read somewhere that the resources of our country are estimated at hundreds of billions, so not everyone has been plundered yet.
            1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 12 December 2022 02: 56
              0
              Mordvin, you measure trillions in billins by the standards of America. Or am I wrong and billions are more than trillions?
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  26. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 9 December 2022 13: 08
    +4
    In general, to carry out everything that the author said, it is still necessary to mobilize at least 500-700 thousand people. Transfer the economy to war footing. Nationalize the companies trading in Russian resources, remove the liberal lobby from the Kremlin...and probably close the borders for the duration of the operation....
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 December 2022 21: 53
      -3
      Dust, nationalized companies that trade in natural resources, and Russia will stop trading in natural resources? And when these enterprises were state-owned under the USSR, they did not trade these resources? Think what you write, otherwise people will soon laugh at you for your lack of education. Remove them from the Kremlin... Did you send them to the Kremlin or a Russian voter? And... probably... borders... You probably live on the moon if you offer something like that.
  27. Alexander Ponamarev (Alexander Ponamarev) 9 December 2022 15: 28
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    Only Moscow can be behind you, and the Siberians (who only recently began to be gasified, thank God) will again have to save it as in the Great Patriotic War, and we will have to drive the enemy all the way to Washington
  28. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 9 December 2022 16: 55
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    I read as much as I could. Then it occurred to me that I had already read something similar and remembered - the volunteer Marek is a friend of Schweik. He already then described how it all should be. Compared. Everything converges even in commas and periods. And it became clear that this Mr. Z wrote everything from there, only he changed the dates and the places of heroic deeds. This is a continuation of those chapters by Yaroslav Hasek, when he did not have time to write them, death interrupted this wonderful novel. But there are writers who have completed everything with a penetrating vision. Something similar to how they accepted a built house. We stopped in different apartments and decided to check for sound which walls. One shouted the second to him says - do not shout, I not only hear you, but also see you.
  29. guest Offline guest
    guest 9 December 2022 16: 55
    +3
    Winter offensive of the Russian army

    What offensive? The main thing is that there would be no next retreat.
  30. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
    Vox_Populi (vox populi) 9 December 2022 19: 07
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    To ensure the operation of the system on the territory of an average European country, one to five stations are needed. Disabling one of them will turn off the Internet immediately over a large area, and the destruction of 5-10 stations can deprive an entire region of several states of communication. Modern laser-guided missiles and kamikaze drones make it possible to destroy such targets with guaranteed

    A bold assumption, but what was the problem before?

    Why do I think that everything will start with the downed NATO satellite, here the calculation is simple. We have been at war with the United States since November 14 (even if it is not officially declared), the fact that this is so was evidenced by the attack of their Ukrainian wards on our airfields of long-range strategic aviation

    Another very bold statement... Have you forgotten about our satellites?! winked

    The war will unfold for resources and markets, and by that time Europe will have neither one nor the other. By definition, it did not have resources, and it will cease to be a sales market as its population becomes impoverished, which, in its struggle for life, will soon risk switching to pasture

    Is this really about Europe?
  31. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 9 December 2022 19: 07
    +3
    Optimism is good and real when backed up by moving forward. In the Russian Federation, we are witnessing convulsions, marking time and flight, and many more Wishlist, and Odessa noise. So far, there is no desire on the part of the authorities to win in Ukraine.
    How to win? If the NMD in Ukraine has no enemy named, no target, no strategy. In tactics, extremes and shyness. The "elite" of the Russian Federation started the war, but does not know how to end it, it wants to return back to the "golden billion", the desires of the people of the Russian Federation and the "elite" are opposite.
    The authorities do not make a political decision on Ukraine, for example, like the PRC on Taiwan. Does not accept a legal document in the form of a Presidential Decree or Law of the Russian Federation stating that the territory of Ukraine is an integral part of Russia. The borders of the territory of Russia are determined by the Helsinki Accords of 1975.
    Conclusion. The authorities are waiting and will wait until the last moment. And you, about the offensive of Stalin - Zhukov !?
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 December 2022 21: 39
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      Vlad, what kind of victory over Ukraine are you talking about, you are somehow more specific, huh? For you, ukrofascists in power is Ukraine? Where are the people of Ukraine? Or, at your suggestion - So far, there is no desire on the part of the authorities to win over the Ukrainian people. It is correct and cannot be observed, for we are one people. How many times can this be repeated? The enemy has been named - the Ukrofast Bandera regime is in power. Everyone knows about it except you. The goal is to destroy this regime and free the Ukrainian people from it. Everyone knows about it except you. this is a tactic, a strategy - voluntary accession through a referendum of the entire territory of Ukraine to its Motherland, Russia. Everyone knows about it except you.
      The elite started the war and does not know how to end it. Well, you know this, but no one else has ever heard of it. Everyone knows about the goals and objectives of the NWO in this operation, there are no elites and other golden billions at all. Where did you get all this husk, do not tell me? Have you seen at least one of this billion for a kilometer? The presidential decree that the territory of the former Ukraine became part of Russia can only be based on the declaration of the Ukrainian people. It cannot be otherwise!
  32. anti-aircraft gunner 9 December 2022 23: 45
    +1
    Am I the only one who hasn't read this multi-layered nonsense? ) From what I managed to catch a diagonal look, and there is no strength and sense to read all this enthusiastic fountain eruption, I understood one thing. The author lives in his own world of illusions. And he builds it by fitting a variety of unrelated facts. He was going to shoot down the satellites. American!!! Yes, our cowardly Politburo is afraid of hitting the General Staff in Kyiv! Fearing dire consequences for your future. I didn’t read more and further even diagonally. Brad crazy!
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 December 2022 21: 13
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      Anti-aircraft gunner, why are you so on the author, huh? You know the axiom - When criticizing, offer. Yours - offer a chait and there is no one close except for youthful maximalism - To strike at the General Staff in Kyiv. Yeah, hit it and what will change? The house will suffer nothing more than the money that the rocket or rockets cost. Before that, you can think of it, ne? The author, as he sees the picture, makes his conclusions, what is the problem? Brad is delusional? But isn't it less delusional nonsense to bomb the General Staff in Kyiv? That the whole dill generals will perish and the ukrofascists capitulate? And they are all exactly sitting there in the General Staff and waiting - when will they beat them?
      1. anti-aircraft gunner 13 December 2022 09: 10
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        I do not have the authority even on this site to put forward my proposals. I'm just a simple layman, but a patriot of Russia. And I see mistakes in conducting CBO. Like millions of the same ordinary people. If the authorities do not listen to their people, then this is not the people's government. And the people demand to win this war. By any military means. Yes, I'm not a general in the General Staff. But I am neither blind nor deaf. And if I see that the war has turned from a small and victorious one into a large and protracted one, then this is by no means my miscalculation. And the miscalculation of the Politburo, the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense. Stop playing giveaway! If you fight, then tough and until victory! If there is no strength or will, then these games of giveaway with Western "partners" must be stopped. The Russian gene pool is dying on the battlefield. And this war cannot be dragged out. So my point of view is clearer? And what is there to bomb for a speedy victory - let the Politburo and the General Staff decide. Let them bomb everything to dust. But faster for an early victory.
  33. Robinson Offline Robinson
    Robinson (Paul) 10 December 2022 10: 24
    0
    why give ukram such large sums...

    And who gives them? .. The money that the states allocate to them is immediately sent back to buy Western equipment and naturally settles again in America, but not in the state treasury, but in the pockets of the owners of various factories))) .. Business and nothing more)))
  34. Robinson Offline Robinson
    Robinson (Paul) 10 December 2022 10: 30
    +1
    If we are talking about Finland, then Russia has such a right, as it is a violation of the Paris agreement.

    What contracts are we talking about? If Russia sent everyone with their Hagues and other courts but will demand the Paris Treaty from them?))))
  35. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 10 December 2022 21: 40
    +1
    Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
    300 billion. That's it, they hung somewhere, but they have not gone anywhere and cannot go anywhere. In the future, I'm sure they will return with interest, as it should be with an addition - non-receipt of the intended benefit (or whatever it is called, but the meaning is the same)

    I don’t see the point in reading your hopes and answering, and your confidence was not backed up by anything.

    Who told you that we were preparing for war? We were preparing for the defense of our country, do you see the difference, or do you need to explain that preparing for war is the transition of the entire industry to a military footing?

    To what defense? Did someone attack us in 2015 or did they already want to? Why didn’t we liberate Donbass in 2015? Because we were weak economically and militarily and these are not my words. Or were you going to liberate Donbass from the Nazis while on the defensive?

    We were preparing for the defense of our country, do you see the difference, or do you need to explain that preparing for war is the transition of the entire industry to a military footing? Forgotten the poor people in the USSR? Forgot the arms race? Forgotten what all this led to?

    In what years was the impoverished Soviet people? USSR.

    And Nata will attack. You will go to war or the regular army of which has yet to complete its tasks. Where are you in a hurry?

    If they mobilize, then I’ll go, but now there are 300.000 mobilized in the NWO, and how many regular military men are there? At least 100 tons?

    Couldn't get dressed? And what are the people at the front fighting in civilian adits now? You ushshsh somehow more truthful, okay?

    What is fighting? To a greater extent, in what the governors (regions and territories) plus volunteers put on. Only the Sergei Mikheev fund raised money of 300 million and with this money everything was bought and transferred to the soldiers. sights, thermal imagers, copters, etc. and how many cars have already been handed over to the people and those funds that I did not voice and which I don’t know about. That’s who dressed and dresses the army to this day.

    Why then at all got involved? And you don’t write from Ukraine by any chance, dear, huh? Otherwise they would not have asked such a not quite, uh, smart question.

    I noticed a trend among stubborn urapatriots to almost immediately blame others for being from Ukraine, well, this is not from a distant mind.

    Saw the dough. Judge for yourself, but there is no possibility, right? After all, I think about the colossal ...

    Keep your fantasies to yourself. If such thoughts visit and the desire is huge, then you don’t need to hang it on me, these are your Wishlist and fantasies.
  36. mechanic Offline mechanic
    mechanic (Yuri) 10 December 2022 22: 00
    -1
    It seems that the author was torn off from a computer shooter, he wrote an article under the impression of destroyed computer enemies, and again plunged headlong into the shooter.
    It is necessary to curtail all this, thousands of dead on both sides, tens of thousands of crippled children, children remain without fathers, and he offers to put innumerable people in order to fight with the whole world.
    You must have the wisdom to stop, otherwise you can lower all the resources into this crucible: people, the economy, finances.
    And so nothing is achieved.
    The forces are absolutely not equal, it is necessary to negotiate, look for compromises, give way somewhere, since they have gone crazy with the NWO ...
  37. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
    Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) 11 December 2022 06: 27
    0
    Well done. Good analysis. I hope that Putin will become a real Supreme Commander.
  38. Robinson Offline Robinson
    Robinson (Paul) 12 December 2022 22: 11
    +1
    Quote: Mechanic
    It seems that the author was torn off from a computer shooter, he wrote an article under the impression of destroyed computer enemies, and again plunged headlong into the shooter.
    It is necessary to curtail all this, thousands of dead on both sides, tens of thousands of crippled children, children remain without fathers, and he offers to put innumerable people in order to fight with the whole world.
    You must have the wisdom to stop, otherwise you can lower all the resources into this crucible: people, the economy, finances.
    And so nothing is achieved.
    The forces are absolutely not equal, it is necessary to negotiate, look for compromises, give way somewhere, since they have gone crazy with the NWO ...

    There is no way back.. If we retreat, then Europe under the slogan "glory to Ukraine" will crush us.. We must now think how to get out of this ass.