CBO showed what the future holds for battle tanks


The fighting in Ukraine continues to amaze in scope. On December 6, there were reports of the arrival in the LPR of fresh equipment for our tankers. We are talking about 200 T-90M - two regimental kits, a huge number of completely new (precisely assembled from scratch) tanks at the present time.


But besides them, an increasing number of “veterans” are also getting into service: both at the training grounds where mobilized fighters are trained, and in the NVO zone, almost all modifications of the military vehicles left in the legacy from the USSR are constantly found, starting with the T-62M. The equipment captured from the enemy is also being used, including foreign versions of the Soviet T-72. In total, about 1-1,5 thousand tanks alone are involved on the front line on both sides, not counting various lightly armored vehicles.

Although large tank battles after 1945 repeatedly took place in the Middle East, for the European theater of operations such a number is an undoubted record. In addition, for the first time in combat operations in Ukraine, tanks take part in the battles of two high-tech armies in an extremely difficult, urbanized and wooded area. There is no doubt that in the hypothetical next conflicts of our century (in Europe, in the Pacific), heavy armored vehicles will be used with an eye on the experience of the Russian NWO in Ukraine.

And here the question arises: what, in fact, this experience? How did the tankers adapt to the new battlefield, which is monitored around the clock from the air and from space, shot through by numerous artillery and high-precision weapons, and on which it is not even really possible to turn around either in a tactical or operational sense?

All-around-2022


Tactics is the most flexible aspect of military art, reacting most sensitively and quickly (and therefore not always correctly) to any changes in the situation. This is understandable: in the end, each new technique is invented by soldiers and commanders right on the battlefield, and if it turns out to be unsuccessful, then the price of an error is blood and a certain number of deaths.

The main "new reality" of the NMD was the maximum saturation of the line of contact with aerial reconnaissance equipment. In principle, practice has put an end to the process of "UAVs against electronic warfare": now it can be rightfully asserted that in a large-scale conflict, no electronic and anti-aircraft weapons will be able to completely clear the sky from enemy "flying eyes". Moreover, it turned out that pocket aviation can and will be widely used (this is the key word) not only for observing and adjusting artillery fire, but also for pinpoint strikes against small groups and even individual fighters or vehicles.

In turn, the "front line", located in the zone of effective artillery destruction, expanded to 40-60 km. This means that large concentrations of troops and important compact objects (headquarters, warehouses, rembases) in the near rear will almost certainly be hit immediately after they are opened, there are almost no safe places left.

Most of the tactical novelties of the current conflict are repelled precisely from this introductory one: when you came out of hiding, it means that you were in front of the enemy, even if you are at your “home”, a few kilometers from the front. For infantry and light armor crews, this is a real nightmare for obvious reasons. The value of heavy armored vehicles, already high, in such conditions increases many times over: thanks to the combination of powerful armor and the high mobility of their vehicles, tankers become the only ones who can not only be on such a battlefield with “acceptable” risk, but also inflict significant damage on the enemy.

Yet even they have to use almost exclusively hit-and-run variations. Judging by the numerous videos of our military correspondents from the front line, Russian tanks work in small groups, often in pairs of four in the spirit of the Grozny “tank carousel”. While two tanks from the four, maneuvering on a patch and covering each other, fire at the enemy with direct fire, the other two roll back a couple of kilometers back, to the line of replenishment of ammunition. Then the pairs change, and this ensures an almost continuous fire impact on the Nazis.

Sometimes pairs are made up of a tank and a light armored vehicle with an automatic gun - an infantry fighting vehicle or an armored personnel carrier, this is done in cases where there is a particularly high risk of encountering enemy infantry armed with RPGs in close combat. If possible, they try to place light vehicles behind the tank at some distance in order to reduce the risk of being hit by ATGMs or shell fragments.

In a similar way, armored vehicles act both on the offensive and in defense - then it resembles quick counterattacks. Although in defense our troops prepare trenches for tanks, they occupy their vehicles not constantly, but on alarm, moving out of some shelter (basement, hangar) in the near rear. "Tank-dot" in a stationary position in modern conditions - a magnet for enemy shells.

Recently, a new tactic has been increasingly introduced, which, by analogy, can be called a “tank Ferris wheel”, when combat vehicles, also maneuvering in pairs, fire not from direct fire, but from afar, according to adjustments from quadrocopters. The latter make shooting from a closed position almost as effective as a direct one, and the vehicle’s own safety is noticeably increased: it becomes inaccessible to infantry anti-tank weapons, only enemy artillery poses a threat.

The "Ferris Wheel" became possible thanks to the saturation of the troops with reconnaissance drones and the initiative of the commanders on the ground, who decided to test the strength of the old belief about the futility of shooting "canopy" from smoothbore guns. Apparently, the technique turned out to be very effective, since there are reports that it is already being practiced with mobilized tankers at the training grounds.

As for the Ukrainian fascists, they are trying to act in a similar way both on the offensive and on the defensive, but objective reasons prevent them from fully reproducing the tactics of the Russian troops, the first of which is the ever-increasing shortage of tanks themselves. Own stocks of Ukrainian T-64s and spare parts for them are coming to an end, deliveries of T-72 modifications from Europe have also stalled. From time to time, the Kyiv regime tries to use frankly rotten equipment that cannot even reach the front, like the T-64A column that got up due to breakdowns a few weeks ago.

There is also a shortage of qualified personnel. Almost all reservists familiar with military equipment were drafted into the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the first waves of mobilization in the spring and suffered significant losses. This, by the way, is another of the arguments by which the West justifies the supply of mainly wheeled vehicles to Ukraine: it is much easier to train a yesterday's truck driver on an armored personnel carrier than on a tracked infantry fighting vehicle.

In most known cases, in the offensive, Ukrainian tanks worked in pairs (standardly, two tanks are attached to a motorized infantry company on different vehicles), in defense - often one by one. When possible, more experienced crews try to “carousel”, but with less success than ours, due to their own small numbers and the density of Russian artillery return fire. During the “Kherson counteroffensive”, Ukrainian tankers often simply did not have time to reach the front line: their vehicles were priority targets among the advancing fascist camps and were the first to receive shells in the roof.

Monday never ends


The "quite a big war" in Ukraine gives food for thought about armored vehicles themselves. Once again, the correctness of Soviet engineers is confirmed, more than half a century ago they relied on compact and highly protected vehicles with an automatic loader. The American developers of the Future Combat Systems program are also right, who at the turn of the century imagined the “tank of the future” as a kind of self-propelled gun, leading mainly long-range combat in sparse formations. Finally, the Germans and the French are quite right in their thinking, having provided regular reconnaissance drones and a fourth crew member, the “system administrator”, on their Panther and Eurotank.

And at the same time, it is obvious that no "tanks of the future" (including the "Armata") in commercial quantities are foreseen in the near future. The Ukrainian conflict has revealed a truly promising direction, a bunch of UAVs - artillery - WTO, to which the main resources of the military-industrial complex of the whole world will be thrown. On the ground, however, the “crisis wars” of the coming decades will be waged by the modernized legacy of the Cold War until it is completely exhausted.

It seems that at the tactical level, the trend towards the fragmentation of close combat forces into small groups concentrating around tanks will continue. "Carousel", "Ferris wheel" and attacks by assault groups, in which the actions of almost every individual fighter are corrected by the drone operator, will become common practice. It is even possible that in the foreseeable future tanks will remain the only "live" units of contact combat, and infantry on light "armor" will be replaced by automated "flocks" of UAV grenade launchers and "bird catchers" of different weight categories.

One way or another, the requirements for tankers of the future will increase by an order of magnitude, approaching the level of combat pilots. Working on "outdated" technology will require, first of all, incredible stress resistance, courage and initiative, a truly lively mind. At the operational level, a serious reworking of the entire concept of logistics will be required, giving formations (divisions or corps of several brigades) the ability to arbitrarily thin and compact their orders and equally effectively supply both individual combat vehicles and entire armadas (consisting mainly of the suppliers themselves) at the forefront. - so many consumables require a modern war).
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  1. viktor goblin Offline viktor goblin
    viktor goblin (viktor goblin) 7 December 2022 12: 50
    +7
    It is not necessary to play with toys - but, as they threatened - at decision-making centers. For everyone.
    1. Sergey ™ Offline Sergey ™
      Sergey ™ (Sergey ™) 8 December 2022 06: 56
      0
      it is impossible, in order to defeat NATO, it is necessary to drag out the conflict with them on the territory of Ukraine at least until the winter of 23/24. what is being done!
    2. Zwain Offline Zwain
      Zwain (Zwain) 8 December 2022 09: 10
      0
      and preferably more napalm!!!
    3. YES UZH Offline YES UZH
      YES UZH (YES) 8 December 2022 15: 55
      0
      Until they get a wick under the tail, they laugh at the warnings and the "red lines". Why they are Ukrainianizing Europe too. Everyone has long understood that the Yankees are systematically preparing a big war in Europe (even with the use of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, the latter can be used anonymously), traditionally sitting behind a puddle, hiding behind their fleet and nuclear potential. They will try to take all the foam off this, to maintain their military and industrial level while we spend our strength with the sixes. Now it’s not enough to reset Britain, and the Poles will have to, where they brought a lot of heavy weapons. The Yankees will not go to a nuclear war between us for the sake of sixes, we (according to the reports of the Supreme,) still have an advantage. But "friends" will immediately appear as many as possible and it will be possible to talk about the future from a position of strength.
  2. Emil Offline Emil
    Emil (Emil) 7 December 2022 13: 43
    +1
    Another Nikita Sergeevich Khrushchev /in miniature/ -

    ... And at the same time, it is obvious that no "tanks of the future" (including the "Armata") in commercial quantities are foreseen in the near future. The Ukrainian conflict has revealed a truly promising direction, a bunch of UAVs - artillery - WTO, to which the main resources of the military-industrial complex of the whole world will be thrown.

    - Why do we need planes ... we have rockets!
    1. wuargido17 Offline wuargido17
      wuargido17 (Andriy Stronglich) 7 December 2022 19: 28
      -2
      Yes, aircraft other than bombers are not profitable, especially supersonic ones. The large weight and low firepower limit the flight time and frequent reloading of fuel. One hour flight of 3 tons of kerosene and only 4 missiles and it’s not a fact that everyone will hit.
  3. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 7 December 2022 14: 40
    0
    Is there any data (at least approximate) on the loss of armored vehicles for the entire time of the war?
    1. Adm Hts Offline Adm Hts
      Adm Hts (AdmHts) 7 December 2022 20: 12
      +1
      somewhere in the media, the French were indignant that they had only a couple of hundred tanks in their army, while more than 1000 had already been "knocked out" (on both sides) on the ukrostan ...
      I think the order is like this...
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 8 December 2022 08: 45
        +1
        The order is like this. But here the number varies greatly. According to Western media, Russia lost 1500 tanks. Ukraine more than 2000. No one can say how true these figures are.

        The Russian Defense Ministry does not publish casualty figures. Which is generally true.
        But the total loss of Ukrainian armored vehicles (tanks, armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles) is 4000 units. Or even more.

        If this is true, then the concept of using armored vehicles should be reconsidered. No military-industrial complex will compensate for such losses.
        1. Adm Hts Offline Adm Hts
          Adm Hts (AdmHts) 9 December 2022 17: 44
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          this is for us, mo does not publish data ...
          those who need it know "first hand", given the data published by the West (all sorts of mi6 there) about the beginning of their own and other information - it looks like they received it a few hours after the "meetings" ...
          in addition, there is data from "independent" sources that publish OSINT information (based on open sources + having photo / video evidence)
          there is also data on how much equipment "transferred" from our military to dill ...
          and the most "newest" a la BMP-3 ...
          the result of a dashing start is - everyone remembers this - abandoned equipment without external damage ...
          even if you divide everything by three - the figure is drop dead ...
          now there is no such "supply" of dill from our side, the last one was in the Kharkov "relocation" ...
          you read Strelkov, after his "expulsion" from the Donbass ...
          tells curious things, even if you make allowances for bias ...
          1. Bakht Offline Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 9 December 2022 19: 23
            0
            All this is educational. But I don't trust eyewitness accounts. They see the picture within their field of vision. There is a Loastarmor website. But the numbers are out there. Although confirmed by photographic materials. According to them.

            Another thing is interesting. One article about problems with the use of tanks. And then the second one is that Poland is preparing a tank armada of 1500 vehicles.

            These are not questions in our brains. In the General Staff there are smart lamp-bearers with big stars and (most importantly) with big salaries. But the real picture can be given by combat commanders on the ground. They know better - tanks in support (defense and offensive) are good or bad.
            1. Adm Hts Offline Adm Hts
              Adm Hts (AdmHts) 10 December 2022 21: 07
              0
              I don't trust eyewitness accounts.

              It's not a matter of faith...
              it's a matter of information...
              with the same success you can not trust anyone
              by the way, just "combat commanders on the ground" the main source of distorted information ...
              and the reasons for this are banal - profitable supply provides their needs ...
              it is necessary - they will raise it, it is not necessary to lower the "numbers" ...
              these are not features of the current one - it has always been like this ...
              1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 10 December 2022 21: 57
                0
                I'm not talking about those who sit in the headquarters. And about those commanders who are fighting and command their units.
                As "it has always been" I still have some idea.

                War is the expectation of the end
                The soul is an unhealed wound.
                The essence is banal: the dead are silent,
                The living rogue praises the feat
                Accidentally survivors are silent,
                Nobody asks them to remember
                Not feeling guilty about the past.
                The chiefs of military science are weaving,
                And writers lie the romance of war
                Another stupefying boredom.
                1. Adm Hts Offline Adm Hts
                  Adm Hts (AdmHts) 12 December 2022 18: 46
                  0
                  those who "combat and command" have the same reasons as the staff officers - the system cannot be changed at the same level ...
                  you are either in it or it will crush you
        2. vladivan Offline vladivan
          vladivan (Vladimir) 12 January 2023 14: 01
          0
          When they surrendered the Kharkiv region and the rest! Then, according to the intelligence of Great Britain, Russia lost 600 tanks in tanks. Now, according to the RF Ministry of Defense, the loss of armored vehicles in Ukraine will be about 7500. We divide by 3 armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, tanks \u2500d 2000 for each. But there are fewer tanks than armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, which means about 3700 Ukrainian tanks were destroyed, and in total there were 4500-XNUMX of them in Ukraine
  4. radvas Offline radvas
    radvas (Igor) 7 December 2022 17: 29
    +2
    Probably, our people still cannot understand where the "decision-making centers" are located - the General Staff of Ukraine, the Ministry of Defense, Zelya ...
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 7 December 2022 17: 50
      -3
      Quote: radvas
      Probably, our people still cannot understand where the "decision-making centers" are located - the General Staff of Ukraine, the Ministry of Defense, Zelya ...

      if the centers are destroyed, then with whom will Putin sign the surrender of the outskirts, he likes everything to be according to the law, although with such an approach to waging war it’s no longer Ze, but he will, if not capitulate, then sign a shameful peace treaty on the terms of the West for sure
      1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
        Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 8 December 2022 12: 04
        -1
        This is how the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine sits at its headquarters, waiting for the arrival of the Russian caliber. They are probably complete idiots. Well, ours are even worse, since they could not defeat them, count them in a year.
    2. Adm Hts Offline Adm Hts
      Adm Hts (AdmHts) 7 December 2022 20: 16
      0
      "decision-making centers" - the General Staff of Ukraine, the Ministry of Defense, Zelya ...

      it won't do much for the most part...
      they have introduced an American control system - there is no "hard" center there, like we have - there each command node has the ability to independently make a decision, starting from a sergeant and above ...
      this applies to both the military and the "civilian" sphere ...
      there will be no president - each governor himself is a "center" in his region ...
      etc.
    3. PravdinTV Offline PravdinTV
      PravdinTV (Pravdin TV) 8 December 2022 14: 31
      0
      Well, actually London, Washington Vienna, Brussels, Nice
  5. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 7 December 2022 17: 43
    +2
    Combat operations are increasingly moving away from direct contact with the enemy. We need to extrapolate for 10-20 years. A tank gun for 5-8 km, here are guided hand-held and other modern rocket weapons and for 10 km. it will pull (starting from different Himars to Javelins of the 3rd generation). In this scenario, there is no longer any place for tanks, as well as self-propelled artillery. This means that the main thing in the near future is air defense (today the Armed Forces of Ukraine are screeching asking) and mastering the airspace. . As a consequence, camouflage from video and thermal detection of everything, from an individual fighter to equipment and weapons. Cleaning up the territory also with UAVs and without crewed vehicles (such as Mars, without crewed MBTs, etc.) Effective TOS must be developed in the form without crewed vehicles and used as the main means of cleaning up territories. The transition to new means of non-contact combat is comparable to the transition from crossbows to firearms. Time is moving, soon the middle of the 21st century, however ...
    1. vladivan Offline vladivan
      vladivan (Vladimir) 12 January 2023 14: 09
      0
      Now everything that gives off warmth and is visible in a thermal imager becomes unprofitable to have on the battlefield, in forests, in cities. So I understood your idea from the text!
  6. savage3000 Offline savage3000
    savage3000 (Savage) 7 December 2022 22: 28
    -2
    there were reports of the arrival of fresh equipment in the LPR for our tankers. We are talking about 200 T-90M - two regimental sets,

    appeared on the fence???

    200 emo??? it is physically impossible. for their production it is necessary:

    1. order.
    2. financing.
    3. 2 years time.
    4. accessories.
    1. syndicalist Offline syndicalist
      syndicalist (Dimon) 8 December 2022 11: 09
      0
      .. and the removal of sanctions for the production of electronics and appliances.
    2. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 8 December 2022 12: 07
      0
      Yes, who knows? Appeared or did not appear. And where did they appear. And tanks or models. Or maybe both, and maybe even a third.
    3. savage3000 Offline savage3000
      savage3000 (Savage) 11 December 2022 13: 07
      0
      Now I'm wondering what for 3 freaks they gave me a minus? and for what?

  7. Peace Peace. Offline Peace Peace.
    Peace Peace. (Tumar Tumar) 8 December 2022 00: 14
    +1
    Give accurate guided projectiles, nothing else is needed, except for missiles of course. The drone found the target, gave the coordinates to the artillery or the tank - a shot. And so that everything is online and from detection to a shot does not take more than 5 seconds. Give the drone and the rest a benchmark on the ground or create a mortar projectile yourself - a benchmark, at least two so that they can navigate in real time around the terrain. It is possible, in principle, without a satellite, some kind of C 200, I think, will legalize the battle area. And how they synchronize - alga!
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 8 December 2022 01: 13
      0
      (Timur) After the first art. shot, within 3-5 minutes you need to wind it down, because the fire determinants will detect, give out the coordinates and the exact answer will arrive. So for the first and last shot (today only Krasnopol) you need to give out the coordinates and then the laser illumination of the UAV target. Today is time, life. Only to act in this way, then there will be less losses. Self-propelled guns are already being fired on the move from stops with precision-guided munitions at the indicated coordinates, fired and went on ....
  8. Sergey ™ Offline Sergey ™
    Sergey ™ (Sergey ™) 8 December 2022 06: 50
    0
    came out of hiding - it means that he was in front of the enemy, even if you are at your “home”, a few kilometers from the front. For infantry and light armor crews, this is a real nightmare for obvious reasons. The value of heavy armored vehicles, already high, in such conditions increases by a factor of

    artillery stopped piercing the tank ??
    or Infantry and armored personnel carriers / infantry fighting vehicles, etc. suddenly became more priority targets ??
    A clear problem with conventional logic!
  9. syndicalist Offline syndicalist
    syndicalist (Dimon) 8 December 2022 11: 07
    0
    It's amazing how people are able to draw inadequate conclusions based on reliable facts.
    The time of tanks is gone forever. The current war has clearly demonstrated this. It is unlikely that they will be used in any future war. Unless they finish off the current stocks against some kind of Papuans.
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 8 December 2022 12: 11
      0
      Well, what to do now? With plywood infantry fighting vehicles or what? And what? The shell went right through and that's it, the infantry fighting vehicle is intact, only ventilation has increased.
    2. Ivan Yuriev Offline Ivan Yuriev
      Ivan Yuriev (Ivan Shivin) 8 December 2022 14: 06
      +1
      Just these tanks from the last century. Hence the disappointment. After all, bets are not made on any one type of weapon. All the more outdated. Everyone understands that the ability to develop, quickly rebuild, and think creatively is important. Putting all hopes on tanks and then completely abandoning them is wrong. It's like there's some kind of weapon that can magically bring victory. There were no drones, now let's release some drones.
    3. vladivan Offline vladivan
      vladivan (Vladimir) 12 January 2023 14: 19
      0
      But the tank is the same artillery, it only has an engine, and carries shells. But it fires from 500 -5 km
  10. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 8 December 2022 12: 54
    0
    If you do not use weapons in war that destroy everything in area, then you can argue that the main thing is more quadcopters and shelters. And if you fight for real, not sparing the enemy, then tank breakthroughs will be needed, for real breakthroughs and encirclements. And today, all tactics are hit in the forehead with cannons, but shoot back from machine guns and don’t move anywhere after hiding.
  11. PravdinTV Offline PravdinTV
    PravdinTV (Pravdin TV) 8 December 2022 14: 22
    +2
    The game is full. NWO is a negotiated war of elites against the peoples of the former USSR, tanks are used in it mediocre from the point of view of military art, rather tin cans for cannon fodder. Tanks can only be used in a massive offensive, where more than 1000 tanks should attack with a simultaneous massive raid by large forces of front-line aviation and support from helicopters and mobile artillery. With such an application, Ukraine could be taken in 10 days. And what we see on both sides, there is nothing else in the tasks, how to incur maximum losses among personnel and civilians
    1. Soulcube Offline Soulcube
      Soulcube (Soulcube RUS) 8 December 2022 17: 22
      +2
      I completely agree. There is a systematic, measured destruction of people on both sides, and a certain parity is artificially created from above ... Where success is achieved, no matter who, then there is a stupor, regroupings, retreat, etc. An example, a successful summer for the Russian Federation was replaced by a very difficult autumn, when huge territories with equipment, with people who were captured, with civilians who were being massacred, were abandoned / abandoned. you are near Izyum, Kupyansk, etc. many times more serviceable vehicles were abandoned, which the enemy successfully uses. Disgrace!
  12. savage3000 Offline savage3000
    savage3000 (Savage) 8 December 2022 20: 57
    0
    It's not always about tanks. what matters is who manages them

    the other day they handed over an absolutely whole T-90m to ukram. completely whole. the first had at least one caterpillar flying away.
  13. dima_dima Offline dima_dima
    dima_dima (Dmitry) 10 December 2022 12: 38
    0
    We are ordinary people, we judge successes / failures by the map of the contact line and by the joyful / anxious notes in the voice of Podolyaki and others.
    ... From the institute military commissar, I remember that "in future wars" there will be no front line, but there will be fortified areas, and the autonomy and armament of a particular soldier will increase to the skies (or the center of the Earth) - up to an individual trencher and a fluoroplastic umbrella from atomic bombs. Tanks are needed to occupy and hold territory already uncontrolled by the enemy (especially in the condition of any "pollution").
    ... In short, right now it's not a "coming" war, but a traditional one. With the presence of newfangled means. But quantity did not translate into quality. There is an adaptation to the newfangled gadgets. Binoculars-periscopes appeared in the 1st World War (so that they don’t slam into the forehead), right now - cameras on drones (it’s better). Then the infantry was given bicycles (even 2-speed !!! for the plains and hills), right now - BMP3 (again for the plains and hills).
    ... The means of attack, the defense of the protection of personnel have improved fabulously, but the vulnerability of the soldier, it seems, has remained the same. And the traditional enemy remained only somewhat mimicry: (1) German militarism; (2) world militarism by the hands of German fascism and the European Union of those years; (3) world militarism + European Union by the hands of ukrofascism.
  14. radvas Offline radvas
    radvas (Igor) 21 December 2022 07: 38
    0
    It's heading for a world war. Already in the near future, with the use of all types of weapons. God help us and the atomic bomb.
  15. Dmitry Volkov Offline Dmitry Volkov
    Dmitry Volkov (Dmitry Volkov) 11 January 2023 22: 10
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    The most difficult thing is covering tanks in battle with air defense systems from UAVs and others, but satellites are already in question. It’s not clear where and what will fly through the tank, so tanks must have their own air defense of the near zone, but how to implement it is the question, they won’t dodge a 155 mm guided projectile and shoot it down!
  16. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 15 January 2023 14: 27
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    There is a network-centric war. Any technique without being included in the control system and information field is just iron. But the management system and the information field in the Russian Federation are at the level of 50 years ago. There is no electricity industry of its own, the satellite system is scanty, etc. How to fight without radio-electronic industry, without radio factories? You cannot completely make a radio-controlled model out of RF components, there are none. Taiwan is already making microchips based on 5 new technologies. But the USSR could.