What can Russia oppose to guided missiles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine


If we recall much of what was written in previous decades on near-military resources, then there was a kind of generally recognized consensus that there simply could not be a war between Russia and the NATO bloc. As justification, it was indicated that our country is a nuclear power, and therefore no one will ever dare to attack us. The reality turned out to be somewhat different.


In reality, there is no direct military clash between the Russian Federation and the North Atlantic Alliance yet, but in fact we are fighting in the “proxy” format on the territory of Ukraine. At the same time, those Western weapons that, in theory, could only theoretically be used against the RF Armed Forces, are actually used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And, alas, very effective.

After the withdrawal of Russian troops from near Kyiv with their transfer to the Donbass, our confrontation with the Armed Forces of Ukraine turned into the positional format of the First World War with the need to gnaw through the enemy’s fortified areas literally meter by meter. NWO today is actually a war of artillery, and everything does not look as rosy as we would like. At the beginning of the tenth month of the special operation, it can be said that Russian artillery surpasses Ukrainian (NATO) artillery in terms of the number of barrels and shells thrown towards the enemy, and Ukrainian (NATO) artillery surpasses ours in hitting accuracy. Why did it happen?

The higher efficiency of Ukrainian (NATO) artillery is due to a number of factors, among which it is necessary to note the total superiority of the North Atlantic Alliance in satellite reconnaissance, the ability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the tactical level to directly request artillery support, providing it with data for target designation and subsequent adjustment of fire using UAVs, as well as the use the most modern precision-guided munitions. I would like to talk about the latter in more detail.

One of the most famous symbols of the SVO are the American MLRS HIMARS, which are infamous for their accuracy. With their help, Ukrainian terrorists destroy Russian warehouses with ammunition, fuel and lubricants, command posts, bridges and pontoon crossings across rivers. The result of their use is obvious: the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation was forced to order the withdrawal of troops from Kherson, since the destruction of the Antonovsky bridge across the Dnieper and the crossing over the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station made it impossible to reliably supply our group on the Right Bank. Are HIMARS a child prodigy?

On their own, no. The success of their actions is determined precisely by an effective combination of reconnaissance and communications, and in terms of the main performance characteristics, domestic MLRS "Tornado-S" or Belarusian "Polonaises" are close to them. American missiles are shot down by Russian air defense systems, so the Armed Forces of Ukraine have to go for a trick. First, they fire at the target with cheaper Soviet-made MLRS missiles, overloading our air defense systems, and hit after them from HIMARS. The disadvantages of HIMARS include the high cost of ammunition, which, fortunately, limits the scope of the use of American MLRS. Unfortunately, the enemy will soon solve this problem of "missile hunger".

In the United States, ammunition has been developed that, with some stretch, can be called a budget subsonic analogue of the Russian hypersonic Avangard. They thought of combining an aerial bomb, turning it into a planning unit, with a rocket engine as an accelerator. The result was named GLSDB (Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb). It uses a conventional GBU-39 aerial bomb costing only $40 as a warhead, but it is not dropped from a plane or drone. Powered by an M26 rocket engine, these munitions are fired from the ground with either M270 or M142 MLRS, and deploy folding wings and control rudders in flight, allowing them to actively maneuver. For targeting, satellite and inertial systems are used, the coefficient of probable deviation is only a few meters. The flight range of such a ground bomb is 150 kilometers.

And it's very bad news for us. Due to the low cost of innovative ammunition, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be able to throw the positions of Russian troops in depth, ensuring greater fire density and accuracy. Not a single existing air defense system will be able to effectively intercept such missile and bomb strikes.

Another no less dangerous Western-made munition, which has so far been used by the Ukrainian Armed Forces to a limited extent, is the American M982 Excalibur guided missile. It is fired from towed M55 777-mm howitzers and, depending on the configuration, can fly from 40 to 57 kilometers, significantly surpassing the Russian analogue called Krasnopol in this indicator. The control system of the Excalibur is also combined - satellite and inertial, which provides them with high accuracy of hits. The only good news is the high cost of each such projectile, which makes their deliveries to the Armed Forces of Ukraine very limited in volume, otherwise it would be very difficult for us at the front.

For comparison: to aim the Russian guided projectile "Krasnopol" at the target, you need a rather bulky laser target designator-rangefinder, which is part of the Malachite portable automated fire control system, which requires a calculation of three people. Targets the size of a tank can be illuminated at a distance of up to 5-7 kilometers during the day and 4 km at night, larger ones up to 15 km. The integration of a laser guidance system for guided projectiles for artillery with unmanned aerial vehicles can greatly facilitate the task for the RF Armed Forces. Solving problems with target designation in real time will make it possible to bring the efficiency of the Russian Tornado-S MLRS to the level of American HIMARS.
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  1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 30 November 2022 13: 00
    +4
    All this criticism of the military-industrial complex and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is quite justified and tragic in consequences. Further debriefing: who prevented the Ministry of Defense and the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation from creating even similar weapons in mass quantities, because almost everything was known about the enemy. We heard more about our "no analogues" from the models presented at exhibitions. In fact, "the king turned out to be naked", I had to urgently scrape weapons from the USSR around the bottom of the barrel. Why is there no responsibility for the previous decade, why is the Minister of Defense the same, because it is his and his team's main fault. Of course, we have with a settled circle of friends in positions that do not hand over their own, for that they hand over the Russian state ...
    1. Nelton Online Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 30 November 2022 17: 44
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      Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
      who prevented the Ministry of Defense and the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation from creating even similar weapons in large quantities, because almost everything was known about the enemy

      The lack of a mission statement interfered with preparations for a long war to occupy a densely built-up territory. Without the use of nuclear weapons, but at the same time, the potential adversary will have exactly as many NATO weapons as and what is needed to neutralize our efforts.

      The same is true with claims against Nabiulinna and gold reserves in dollars.
      In peacetime, this is a hot reserve to smooth out the fall in the rate of the barrel, was used for its intended purpose in 2008 and 2014, and did not come back at the maximum value of 2008.

      And the fact that Vladimir Vladimirovich would be drawn to fight for the territories of a neighboring state (with understandable sanctions consequences) was not even hinted at.
      1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 30 November 2022 18: 30
        +3
        This GDP will pull to fight, but a hopeless situation, when the concentrated forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine prepared to take the DPR and LPR by force. You don’t confuse the state of affairs .. After the events of 2014, when the EU went boldly with sanctions and other threats, only an enemy from within the Russian Federation could not prepare for a big war. (perhaps this is true when the compradors A. Chubais and other Nabiullins are in high positions and influence.).
        1. Nelton Online Nelton
          Nelton (Oleg) 30 November 2022 18: 44
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          Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
          a hopeless situation when the concentrated forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine prepared to take the DPR and LPR by force

          Well, it was necessary to prepare precisely for this - to take the civilian population to the Russian Federation, to turn the LDNR into a fortified area. 8 years on it was. And here the layouts would be completely different ....

          Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
          After the events of 2014, when the EU went on a rampage with sanctions

          Yes, yes, it was in 2015-2021 that many Western factories were opened, with localization above the average by world standards.
          And the prince, Michael of Kent, came to the opening of the JCB equipment plant ...

          That's who ruined all this - he is

          Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
          enemy from within the Russian Federation
        2. Alex098 Offline Alex098
          Alex098 (L S) 9 January 2023 04: 01
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          Why didn't you prepare? And calibers, and daggers, and submarines? Do you really want Russia, with a population of 140 million, and a resource-based economy, to produce everything the same as the West with more than 1 billion people and world reserve currencies ....
      2. Vladimir Daetoya (Vladimir Daetoya) 30 November 2022 22: 08
        +2
        The absence of a task statement interfered

        To prepare for the war was hindered by the lack of a mission statement. But the lack of preparation for war did not prevent the start of the war. The Supreme did not even check the warehouses for the presence of clothing for the army, not to mention the special means necessary for each infantryman.
        1. House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 1 December 2022 18: 02
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          And how many naked soldiers are there in the country now?
  2. Tektor Offline Tektor
    Tektor (Tektor) 30 November 2022 13: 29
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    A small diameter bomb for today can be shot down by Thor. Perhaps, when organizing the contour of combat control, there is also a Chrysanthemum with a Sobolyatnik, a Zoo ... Therefore, Chrysanthemums are very necessary.
  3. calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich (Dmitriy) 30 November 2022 14: 06
    -3
    After all, there was an article about the latest modification of the "krasnopol" - it flies via Glonass, much further than its predecessor.
    We can only oppose the distortion of the GPS signal, and the jamming of other means of guidance.
  4. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 30 November 2022 18: 35
    +3
    Everything is learned in a real battle, and not in parades. Shit-liberals carried out a coup d'état in the USSR in 1991, not for the development of Russia, but to enrich their personal pockets. Their goal: the collapse of industry, colonial dependence on the Anglo-Saxons, the creation of capitalists, oligarchs, the names of these "creators" are known to everyone. Russia is still alive at the expense of the resources of the Soviet Union. The absence of modern weapons in the Russian Federation is the result of the activities of the anti-people authorities. Under the USSR, not a single reptile climbed into the territory of the USSR. They were afraid. In 1945 the Russians came to Berlin and gave Europe a cancer. Now the industry is owned by the capitalists, they do not want to launch rockets, their wives, children, property is in the west and they will not destroy the west.
    1. Nelton Online Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 30 November 2022 19: 09
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      Quote: vlad127490
      Russia is still alive at the expense of the resources of the Soviet Union.

      Oh don't laugh. Oil and gas were formed tens and hundreds of millions of years before the USSR.
      The territories where they are located were annexed under the kings.
  5. usm5 Offline usm5
    usm5 (George) 30 November 2022 20: 26
    +4
    Here you read the comments and simple answers come: "Yes, they are just smarter than us!". Such GPS-guided projectiles and missiles have been developed for a long time. And the corresponding jammers were developed a long time ago, which were successfully tested in Syria, which is why everyone sat quietly. But Ukraine broke out and it turned out that these jammers were ineffective. The enemy has developed an antidote against them. I think that the best minds are now struggling with the problem of neutralizing GPS, but most likely, without a war in space, Russia will not see victory as its own ears. And God forbid I'm wrong.
    1. Edelweiss_2 Offline Edelweiss_2
      Edelweiss_2 (Edelweiss) 1 December 2022 18: 28
      0
      Russia and space are incompatible concepts ....
      https://vashmnenie.ru/blog/43761572734/Glava-RAN-zayavil-o-potere-Rossiey-kosmosa - Глава РАН заявил о потере Россией космоса.
      1. Nelton Online Nelton
        Nelton (Oleg) 1 December 2022 18: 42
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        Quote: Edelweiss_2
        Russia and space are incompatible concepts ...

        Satellites and manned spacecraft launch regularly, just today (2022/12/01) there was another launch from Plesetsk.
        The accident-free series of launches has already lasted for a record long time, both in time and in the number of launches.
        Launched satellites function differently, but in general there is a clear trend towards an increase in average service life.
  6. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 30 November 2022 20: 38
    0
    Duc recently wrote here that NATO guided expensive ammunition is rubbish. Doesn't affect anything.
    And our cheap cast iron ones are a thing. And the Air Force can drop them anywhere.

    And here again ....
  7. House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 1 December 2022 18: 01
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    Hospade, again Marzhetsky hype?

    and the Ukrainian (NATO) is superior to ours in terms of hit accuracy.

    Will there be a source with statistics?
    And what about the accuracy of Soviet artillery systems in the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
    What is their ratio in terms of quantity and quality with NATO systems?
    For example, with a British 105-mm cannon or NATO 155-mm howitzers manufactured in the 40s-70s?

    The General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation was forced to order the withdrawal of troops from Kherson, since the destruction of the Antonovsky bridge across the Dnieper and the crossing over the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station made it impossible to reliably supply our group on the Right Bank.

    The General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, according to the available video materials, withdrew troops from Kherson along the "destroyed" Antonovsky bridge, and, moreover, withdrew heavy armored vehicles...
    What very well showed the achieved result of a continuous 3,5-month swotting on it and more than a hundred direct hits on its pavement: the bridge functioned...

    to aim at the target of the Russian guided projectile "Krasnopol" you need a rather bulky laser target designator-rangefinder, which is part of the portable automated fire control complex "Malachite"

    "Krasnopol" perfectly "highlight" UAVs: this is how it is used in the NVO (suddenly for Marzhetsky) ...
  8. House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 1 December 2022 20: 52
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    Why should I provide statistics?
    I'm not talking about EFFICIENCY!
    On the available videos, "illumination" is from the air.
    Are you talking about EFFICIENCY?
    Let's get some stats...

    But the expert level "smiles": to scrawl an article using information 5 years ago, and not to know the main target designation tool used since 2018 ...
    Expertise 80 lvl.

    WHY Surovikin withdrew troops from Kherson?
    I have no idea: maybe I received such an order, maybe for some other reason ...

    But he brought heavy armored vehicles along the "destroyed Antonovsky bridge"))))
    Fact!