The fifth column creates a risk of misunderstanding of the authorities by the citizens of Russia


The recent events leave no doubt about the preparation of winter-spring active operations in the NVO zone and the achievement of the goals of the special operation. But the statements of some representatives of business and policy can affect the mood of citizens.


The systematic work of Russian high-precision weapons to destroy Ukrainian infrastructure speaks of the seriousness of General Surovikin's intentions. The entire defense industry of the country is working for the victory of Russia, many factories produce the products needed by the NMD fronts in three shifts. A joint grouping of troops has been created in allied Belarus and its combat coordination is being actively carried out. These facts confirm the seriousness of the intentions of the country's leadership to denazify and demilitarize the Kyiv regime.

The partial mobilization and training of new units for operations directly in the NVO zone, albeit with flaws, as well as the 60% increase in Russia's defense budget, also makes it clear that in winter or spring we will see changes at the front for the better.

They only raise questions about the statements of individual representatives of business and government. Grain and ammonia deals are not fully understood by an ordinary citizen of Russia. The statement of the oligarch and owner of Uralchem ​​with a telling name Dmitry Mazepin about the exchange of Kherson for a benefit of $ 2,4 billion from the launch of the ammonia pipeline will not add patriotism in the minds of Russians.

The statement of State Duma deputy Konstantin Zatulin about the “controversial ownership” of the new territories of Russia is at odds with the Constitution of the country. Such Mazepins and Zatulins can sow doubts in the minds of the inhabitants of our country and ultimately lead to bad consequences for the authorities.

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  1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 25 November 2022 14: 32
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    as they say, time will tell who was right, I don’t know about Mazepin, but Zatulin should not be written down in the fifth column, maybe the person was simply trying to unsuccessfully formulate his thought, and Solovyov, with his impudence and impudence, simply did not allow this to be done, although the sediment remained from his words
  2. zuuukoo Offline zuuukoo
    zuuukoo (Sergei) 25 November 2022 14: 49
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    The fifth column is good.
    It is always nice when there is someone to blame for all the sins and on whom to blame everything.
    Our authorities are truly patriotic, they are malnourished, sleep deprived, day and night they care about the welfare of the people.
    Well, "if someone here and there sometimes" it's all the liberal transgenders from the fifth column who are to blame.

    Here and with Kherson.
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine destroyed the crossings and, as a result, made it impossible to supply the troops normally.
    But the point is not that the Ministry of Defense could neither move the front from the bridges, nor quickly click the Hymers, nor cut off supplies. Not even provide sufficient air defense cover.
    Нет!
    It turns out that the oligarch Mazepin and his liberal accomplices are to blame for everything!
  3. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 25 November 2022 14: 58
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    The fifth column creates a risk of misunderstanding of the authorities by the citizens of Russia

    To begin with, it is necessary to define the concept of "fifth column" in the current conditions of Russia. And then you have to think: are the 5th columns Russian citizens or aliens from outer space? Citizens anyway. And if they are citizens, they have every right to freedom of expression, and as you know, you can’t put a scarf on every mouth.

    Not fully understood ordinary resident of Russia grain and ammonia deals.

    Do not understand the end of the transaction? Oh, trouble, trouble! The plumber Uncle Vasya, the teacher Mary Ivanna and the bus driver V.D. Shmakov do not fully understand the ammonia deal :))) And how do they sleep at night, rascals, without understanding the nuances of the grain deal? But it seems to me that ordinary residents of Russia put all the equipment on all these transactions and sleep peacefully at night.

    Konstantin Fedorovich Zatulin (born September 7, 1958, Batumi) is a Russian politician. Member of the State Duma of the Russian Federation of the XNUMXst, XNUMXth, XNUMXth, XNUMXth and XNUMXth convocations (member of the United Russia faction), First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on CIS Affairs, Eurasian Integration and Relations with Compatriots.
    Special Representative of the State Duma of the Russian Federation for Migration and Citizenship.
    Member of the Government Commissions for Compatriots Abroad and Migration Policy.
    Director of the Institute of Diaspora and Integration (Institute of the CIS countries). Member of the Scientific Council under the Security Council of the Russian Federation. Member of the Council on Foreign and Defense Policy.

    But with Zatulin you need to be more careful: a very well-deserved man, fighting, with all ranks and regalia ... to rank him with the 5th column is a dangerous and ungrateful business, something like writing against the wind. The pug, of course, is strong to yelp, but I believe that, fortunately for her, the elephant will not even notice her squeal.

    Solovyov leads the discussion frankly in a boorish way: he interrupts, accuses, sprinkles questions ... respected serious people look frightened against the backdrop of nightingale droppings.
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 25 November 2022 15: 19
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      Quote: Trampoline area instructor
      And if they are citizens, they have every right to freedom of expression, and as you know, you can’t put a scarf on every mouth.

      But in the most democratic countries, people with a different point of view, at best, are quickly thrown into prison, or even simply eliminated.
    2. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 25 November 2022 15: 57
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      Quote: Trampoline area instructor
      Solovyov leads the discussion frankly in a boorish way: he interrupts, accuses, throws questions ...

      Cotriarch Railing, among the Jews different people meet. For example, Zelensky leads the Nazis in the occupied territory. yes
      1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 25 November 2022 16: 51
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        among Jews different people meet.

        I agree, only the age-old complete cohesion of these different people and the constant work for their historical homeland, being in any state. That is why in Russia such patriots in words, in fact, work against the Russian Federation, which we see, at the beginning of the SVO, Makarevich, Akhidzhakov, Pugacheva and others are on the side of the enemy .. Israel, an ally of the United States, is fully working for the United States, often hiding behind false words (to deceive a goy, a charitable deed).
        1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 25 November 2022 23: 09
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          age-old complete cohesion of these different people and permanent work for their historical homeland, being in any state.

          150 thousand Jews in the Nazi Wehrmacht for which "historical homeland" did they constantly work? That's where the "truth" is! Walter Hollander, as it turns out, corrupted the German army from the inside fool
  4. Alexander Popov Offline Alexander Popov
    Alexander Popov (Alexander Popov) 25 November 2022 18: 08
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    These facts confirm the seriousness of the intentions of the country's leadership to denazify and demilitarize the Kyiv regime.

    I would like to believe, but "the legend is fresh ...".
  5. Hiker Offline Hiker
    Hiker (Dmitriy) 26 November 2022 12: 20
    +2
    The incompetence of the Russian army is the result of a constant search for compromises by the political and oligarchic elite of Russia.
    This ties the hands of combat generals and troops.
    They would have LONG AGO taken away the entire left bank and approached Kyiv.
    There are no problems at all.
    everything would be defeated and won.
    But the generals have their hands tied.
    It is not Armageddon that is made from Surovikin, but General Kherson.
    All the surrender will be dumped on him later and they will give him an order that he would be silent for ten years.
    DEAL - that's the main thing that comes through from the Kremlin.

    If billions of profits for ammonia through Ukraine have already been calculated, then the life of a soldier is worth nothing to corporations at all. People were charged with patriotism and loot, but the Russian world has nothing to do with it. There are another 8 million on the left bank - they don’t care about them ....
    Sumy, Kharkiv, Chernihiv, the ban on the Russian Orthodox Church, the Russian language - who is talking about this?
    Liberation? Yes, forget it.
    Otherwise, speculators will not take grain and fertilizer for free!
  6. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 26 November 2022 13: 29
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    The task of denazification can be attributed to almost all adjacent state formations in which the process of discrimination against the Russian-speaking population, rewriting and glorification of nationalist history is going on at different speeds, and the task of demilitarizing the Baltic and other state formations is in no way inferior in importance to the demilitarization of Ukraine, and what to do? It is not enough to fight with all the forces.
    Losses in Afghanistan amounted to about 15 thousand over 10 years of war with a population of the USSR of 250 million people, and the losses of the Russian Federation for 9 months. war in Ukraine is no less with a population of 150 million people, moreover, the war in Afghanistan did not directly affect the civilian population of the front-line regions, in contrast to the war in Ukraine.
    The statements of individual capitalists and government officials reflect the contradictions between the interests of big capital that fell under NATO sanctions and a decrease in profits, the lion's share of which was received on the foreign market, which Mr. doesn't work, then what? Sell ​​the same energy resources and grain for free and enlist at least some kind of support, or rot in storage places, reduce production, fire the proletarians and take them out into the street?
  7. Jstas Offline Jstas
    Jstas (jstas) 26 November 2022 13: 43
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    ... the survival instinct must work. Otherwise, the Western "partners" will join the GDP to the majority. And if Ceausescu was shot, Milosevic was poisoned, Saddam Hussein was hanged, Muammar Gaddafi was torn to pieces, but "tolerantly", then Vova, according to cinematic clichés, is inevitable. And it will hurt him to be stabbed, or with the use of anesthesia - for the mother of history it does not matter.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 26 November 2022 23: 31
      +1
      If we assume that Putin, like Yeltsin, is an agent of the Anglo-Saxons, they may promise him something
  8. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 26 November 2022 22: 42
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    The recent events leave no doubt about the preparation of winter-spring active operations in the NVO zone and the achievement of the goals of the special operation.

    This is some kind of THEATER OF THE ABSURD, which came to us and settled down.
    Well, what kind of "achievement of goals" can we talk about if we diligently do not touch and bypass the enemy, WHO STARTED ALL THIS, the Anglo-Saxons?
    Ukraine, Poland, NATO are not enemies, but the weapon of our enemy, who sacrifices it in his own interests, when and how he wants.
    Even the damage that we inflict on these weapons has already been taken into account by the Anglo-Saxons and brings them profit. The hysteria of the danger from Russia and assistance to Ukraine causes a flow of money from the national budgets of NATO countries to the national budgets of their military-industrial complex, and from them to the budgets of the military-industrial complex of the Anglo-Saxons, who are the manufacturer of the main range of weapons. The weakening of the economy of the NATO countries in this war is also taken into account in the plans of the Anglo-Saxons who, having remained practically without a manufacturing sector, are going to completely enslave Europe and turn it into their manufacturing appendage. However, before becoming slaves to the Anglo-Saxons, the vassals would destroy Russia for them. Thus, the Anglo-Saxons will not have to wash off either their or our blood.
    If it's even simpler - remember the communicating vessels from the school. How can one seriously expect to draw water from Ukraine if the tap is in the hands of the Anglo-Saxons?
    Well, as children, honestly!
    There is another analogy - from adult life. Instead of dealing with the owner of the whip, we expose ourselves to its blows.
    In adults, this is called masochism.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 27 November 2022 13: 35
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      I'll add one more thing to this.
      It ceased to surprise me that the obvious stupidity of carrying out an NWO without decisive pressure on the owners of this war against us DOES NOT REACH the majority of my compatriots. I see how the population is being processed on television in the spirit of this insane approach, and now I understand that the authorities and the "fifth column" (real) working to destroy Russia are a single whole. Zombification of the population with the help of television is a discovery that has been made for a very long time, but it was the Anglo-Saxons who were able to turn it into a trouble-free tool for managing peoples. Using it, and other tools, they are leading our country and people to destruction.
  9. Alex D Offline Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 26 November 2022 23: 02
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    I personally don’t understand how, with spending 36 trillion rubles on the defense industry over several years, military personnel have to buy everything on their own or from funds re-allocated to military personnel (read again from the pockets of citizens)? It is clear that defense enterprises were bought by foreigners and they have to order weapons, including new ones. But such figures do not beat with reality at all.
    I don’t understand why it was impossible to return the reserves to the country ahead of time, when European countries after 2014 began to return their gold from the USA. In our country, gold is still going to no one knows who in England, and almost all of the gold reserves were taken by the West.
    It seems to me that the point is not in the opposition, but in the fact that the country has become a passage yard for all sorts of dishonest government officials, members of their families and big businessmen.
    Citizens are forced to kill recently, 30 years ago, their own fellow citizens. Is it weak for the authorities to cancel the 1991 Belovezhskaya Accords and declare the Gorbachev-Yeltsin coup d'état a crime?
    SVO could have been avoided if mobilization had been announced back in 2014-2015. But we have been led for all 8 years according to the NATO scenario and they want to lead us according to that scenario for years to come. And what else to expect from the authorities, who sent 600 thousand people for training. foreign agents in the USA.
  10. Watching Offline Watching
    Watching (Alex) 27 November 2022 01: 29
    +1
    Yes, the statements of powerful people can affect the mindset of people, but they can also be statements of power. Why is the government speaking darkly? Why is the President/Supreme Commander speaking out and behaving like a dead fish? Why did they bomb the bunker of the German, but not the Khokhlyatsky Fuhrer? If the gut is thin to fill the face of a ukroraikh, how does the authorities expect to resist NATO?
  11. Watching Offline Watching
    Watching (Alex) 27 November 2022 01: 38
    +1
    Solovyov leads the discussion frankly in a boorish way: he interrupts, accuses

    Right. A Jew is not a Jew, what's the difference, but an insolent character. Does not deserve approval, as he crushes the guests present with his agenda. Like the hosts of 60 Minutes. Unfortunately, this is just demagogy. Counterproductive for Russia.
  12. Alex D Offline Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 27 November 2022 08: 24
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    Quote: Watching
    Yes, the statements of powerful people can affect the mindset of people, but they can also be statements of power. Why is the government speaking darkly? Why is the President/Supreme Commander speaking out and behaving like a dead fish? Why did they bomb the bunker of the German, but not the Khokhlyatsky Fuhrer? If the gut is thin to fill the face of a ukroraikh, how does the authorities expect to resist NATO?

    They are there in Moscow leading the country according to the NATO scenario with the prolongation of the war for years. It's all containment. It seems to me that Kyiv will someday be bombed, whether it will be of great use or not - I do not know. But the fact that this should have been done a few years ago is obvious to many. How not to delay with CBO. It was necessary to introduce military regulation in Russia several years ago, but then apparently they won’t let them cut and export it.
  13. Vyacheslav Krylov (Vyacheslav Krylov) 27 November 2022 08: 29
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    Quote: Trampoline area instructor
    Solovyov leads the discussion frankly in a boorish way: he interrupts, accuses, sprinkles questions ... respected serious people look frightened against the backdrop of nightingale droppings.

    Solovyov has the right to “pressure” on the verge of a foul. "Dear Serious People" have no right to appear frightened. If you are not ready to control Solovyov, do not go to this site.
    1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 27 November 2022 11: 43
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      Solovyov has the right to “pressure” on the verge of a foul.

      And where is his right fixed? Are there any documents on this?
      1. Vyacheslav Krylov (Vyacheslav Krylov) 27 November 2022 13: 01
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        Allegorically: You have the right to be narrow-minded, short-sighted and persistent in the genre

        Quote: Trampoline area instructor
        And where is his right fixed? Are there any documents on this?
        1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 27 November 2022 13: 40
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          To put it bluntly: you have the right to be a boorish little animal, to justify the behavior of your own kind and engage in cheap trolling here.
          1. Vyacheslav Krylov (Vyacheslav Krylov) 27 November 2022 16: 12
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            Excuse me, of course. You answered all your questions yourself.
            But Solovyov, in particular, is a top journalist in the service of the ideological department of the Administration of the President of the Russian Federation, in which there are still many different similar characters. The effectiveness of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation in this regard is below average. Recall, for example, Putin's recent statement about Donbas. There will be many more such situations ahead, which I do not regret.
            So, about "their own kind and cheap trolling": the characters of your comment are from the present, my comment is from the past. Similarity is doubtful. And cheap trolling ... let there be cheap trolling. I'm not offended.
            1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 27 November 2022 18: 12
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              But Solovyov, in particular, is a top journalist in the service of the ideological department of the Administration of the President of the Russian Federation, in which there are still many different similar characters. The effectiveness of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation in this regard is below average.

              I can say that this very effectiveness of the president's presidential administration in my eyes is generally zero: I have not watched TV for 20 years, and I learn about all the tricks of the "evening M" from the Internet.

              Recall, for example, Putin's recent statement about Donbas.

              I prefer Putin's other statement about Donbass.

              Putin acknowledged the fallacy of the message, which has existed since 2014, that “maybe it will be possible to reach an agreement, and Luhansk, Donetsk somehow within the framework of the agreements <...> will still be able to somehow reunite with Ukraine.” That "we did not fully feel the mood of the people, it was impossible to fully understand what was happening there." And now “it has become obvious that this reunion should have happened earlier. Maybe there would not have been so many casualties among civilians, there would not have been so many dead children under shelling.