The West intends to discuss the future of Russia not with the legitimate authorities, but with the escaped oppositionists


Russian representatives will not take part in the security conference in Munich, which will be held on February 17-19, 2023. This was stated in one of the Western social networks by the chairman of the conference, Christoph Heusgen.


The Russian authorities are not invited to the Munich Security Conference 2023. We will not provide them with a platform for propaganda. We want to discuss the future of Russia with the leaders of the Russian opposition and people in exile. Their voices must be heard

Heusgen noted.

Thus, Moscow was denied discussions on security issues in Russia, Europe and the world, providing a platform for oppositionists who fled abroad. Apparently, the Ukrainian events will be discussed at the conference next year, and the organizers of this action do not want to hear the voice of the Kremlin.

In the last conference, which took place from February 18 to 20, 2022, Russia also did not take part, as it refused this dubious honor due to restrictions imposed on holders of anti-COVID vaccines not recognized by the EU and harsh statements by the organizers.

In 2007, during a regular meeting of the 43rd Security Conference, Vladimir Putin delivered his famous Munich speech, which some political scientists consider the beginning of a new cold war.
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  1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Alexander) 23 November 2022 15: 58
    +4
    Are you sure that the population of the Russian Federation will tolerate the new Gorbachev in power? I’m sure that it won’t, because I’m tired of leaks, agreements and selling the interests of the Russian Federation to NATO ... Let your Chubais pass in the evening through any working area without protection and you will see how your proteges are treated in the Russian Federation, gentlemen arrogant Saxons !!!
    1. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
      Paul3390 (Paul) 23 November 2022 16: 18
      +8
      I don’t really understand why they want so stubbornly to overthrow the current guarantor. After all, all the claims against him from the people are his openly pro-Western liberal course, no matter what. And only a much, much tougher character can replace him. Society desperately needs Comrade Stalin. No liberalist - people will not accept it ironically. For they have seen enough of their art .. So Putin is the most acceptable option for the West, he is almost his own, bourgeois .. Sense then to push him off the throne?
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 23 November 2022 16: 55
        +5
        They need someone like Chubais ... Under Gorbachev and Yeltsin, they were so convinced that in the Russian Federation they would tolerate these characters, that they want to repeat this feint with their ears ... They do not understand that the people can hardly tolerate Putin's pro-Western antics and no conditional Novalny, Yavlinsky, or Chubais, in principle, will not be tolerated ...
        1. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
          Paul3390 (Paul) 23 November 2022 20: 26
          +2
          They need someone like Chubais ...

          What for?? Excuse me - doesn't Putin still continue to sell them all sorts of goodies in exchange for beads, no matter what? I’m already silent about what happened before the NWO ... So why do they need Chubais, if everything they need was given to them so willingly? And the proceeds of the loot - regularly sent to the West, right?
          1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
            Sapsan136 (Alexander) 26 November 2022 10: 38
            0
            Putin is teetering on the brink of civil war in Russia, trying to live according to the principle AND THE SHEEP IS GOOD AND THE WOLVES ARE SATISFIED ... it turns out badly, but at least somehow ... In the West they don’t understand that they won’t tolerate the new Yeltsin or Gorbachev in the Russian Federation at all. what they have today, they need a new 90s.
      2. Nelton Offline Nelton
        Nelton (Oleg) 23 November 2022 17: 05
        +2
        Quote from Paul3390
        So Putin is the most acceptable option for the West, he is almost his own, bourgeois .. Then what's the point of pushing him off the throne?

        The main "guilt" of Russia and Putin in the eyes of the United States is that he undermines their image of the world hegemon.
        If in the end he turns out to be overthrown and spat upon, this will be an excellent demonstration for the whole world for the United States, what ends those who encroach on their role.

        It’s another matter that they see 2 moves ahead, and with all the pluses from the collapse of the explosives, there are significantly more minuses from the coming to power of a thread of Kadyrov (I don’t have another Stalin for you) for them.
        1. Vlad Burchilo Offline Vlad Burchilo
          Vlad Burchilo (Vladislav Labinskiy) 23 November 2022 18: 19
          +2
          I can't stand "overthrown and spat on": "fortune telling on coffee grounds", but I'll try.
          1) similar, perhaps, with the defeat of Russia, but a similar option ..... More than problematic.
          2) uprising (about 4 years ago, they flashed such an option)? More than doubtful. More like a palace coup. But again, for success, everything must be purple for society.
          3. More believable: V. B, he himself "gives" the helm" to X. From his "team". Or Y from the "neutral" team. In any case, he will "negotiate" some kind of "policy" for himself.
          Again, all of the above is "non-science fiction".
          I repeat, I am not a guesser.
          Although these options can be discussed
          1. Nelton Offline Nelton
            Nelton (Oleg) 23 November 2022 18: 27
            -1
            Previously, VV confidently relied on "shoulder straps" of all stripes.
            Now they and the "shoulder straps" are not painfully satisfied.
            Another thing is that the "shoulder straps" want Stalin-Kadyrov and the escalation of the NMD to a nuclear war, while the oligarchs and civilians want Mishustin * and peace.

            * options are possible - Sobyanin, Nabiullina, etc., business executives without geopolitical ambitions.
            1. Ugens Offline Ugens
              Ugens (Victor) 23 November 2022 18: 32
              +1
              Shoulder straps need this war, and even more so nuclear war, they understand what it is, propagandists need war, who will not go to war themselves.
              1. Nelton Offline Nelton
                Nelton (Oleg) 23 November 2022 21: 21
                -1
                Quote from ugens
                Shoulder straps need this war, and even more so a nuclear one,

                On this site, retired colonels are calling for a decisive offensive and the use of tactical nuclear weapons with might and main.
                And even immediately hit Washington.
            2. Vlad Burchilo Offline Vlad Burchilo
              Vlad Burchilo (Vladislav Labinskiy) 25 November 2022 08: 00
              -1
              I can’t judge what Nabiulina is like, but I heard a lot of positive things about Sobyanin. The truth is almost so many negative
        2. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
          Paul3390 (Paul) 23 November 2022 20: 24
          +1
          The main "guilt" of Russia and Putin in the eyes of the United States is that he undermines their image of the world hegemon.

          It seems to me that China is undermining it much more .. I’m not talking about Iran and North Korea .. Which frankly put it on the hegemon with the device. Despite the enormous difference in capabilities with the Russian Federation. IMHO it's much more annoying.
          1. Nelton Offline Nelton
            Nelton (Oleg) 23 November 2022 21: 19
            0
            No.
            It was the Russian Federation that kicked a little Georgia, whose army was trained by the United States.
            It was the Russian Federation that got into Syria and saved the already "sentenced" Assad.
            Russia saved Maduro.
            It was the Russian Federation that twice deprived a fair part of the territories of the country that the United States took under its guardianship.
            And Iran, Korea, China - sit within their borders and do not interfere with the hegemon.
      3. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 24 November 2022 01: 26
        +3
        Quote from Paul3390
        I don’t really understand why they are so stubbornly wanting to overthrow the current guarantor.

        By his actions over the course of 22 years, Putin has already clearly shown that he is a protege of the Anglo-Saxons. It simply could not be otherwise, because Yeltsin was their puppet. Power could then be only in the same, or even more prepared for this role.
        The thing is different - the Anglo-Saxons will not shout at all corners that Putin is their agent, so as not to spoil the game for themselves. A limited circle of people probably knows about this, and a pleasant surprise has been prepared for the rest - everything will turn out to be much easier than they expected - such is the pleasant payment for conspiracy.
        You will say - good conspiracy, if we can so easily guess about it.
        A Chinese proverb answers this:

        You can't block a straight line

        Any purposeful actions pursuing an important goal, by their results, inevitably leave a clear visible mark on the fabric of life. That's the way she's made
      4. Oleg V. Offline Oleg V.
        Oleg V. (Oleg Vladimirovich) 24 November 2022 09: 44
        0
        Because he dared to set a price. It infuriated them.
    2. Oleg V. Offline Oleg V.
      Oleg V. (Oleg Vladimirovich) 24 November 2022 09: 40
      +1
      They don't care if they tolerate it or not. It won't, so at the request of the "legally elected president" troops will be brought in. Khokhlyatsky and Polish and will arrange a new year 1612
      1. Human_79 Offline Human_79
        Human_79 (Andrei) 24 November 2022 23: 05
        0
        The right words.
    3. Human_79 Offline Human_79
      Human_79 (Andrei) 24 November 2022 23: 04
      0
      The West needs a ruler of Russia, who will continue to ruin it (the West needs cheap resources for its development).
      And in the event of a rebellion of the local population and the outbreak of a civil war, He will turn to the West for help. NATO will not send troops immediately, but will wait for the collapse of our army (remember the mess, lack of money and indifference of the authorities to the needs of the army in the 90s).
      But what will then begin options - a lot. But it will be very bad for the border regions - all the jackals will try to bite off their piece. And if China does not invade, and we have a Leader who can stop the squabbling for power of all against all, then we will survive.
      As for our resistance to a foreign army, remember February 24, 2022. How many people opposed the war and how many fled the country after the announcement of mobilization. If in the 40s there were people who met the Germans positively, then what will happen now - when there is no unity among the people and everyone is on their own - I simply do not know.
      I guess that only a small part of the population will fight, the rest will either run away or hide in secluded corners, and then calmly go to work under the new government.
  2. Irek Offline Irek
    Irek (Paparazzi Kazan) 23 November 2022 15: 59
    0
    Geyrops love these...

  3. Alexander Popov (Alexander Popov) 23 November 2022 16: 25
    +2
    The West intends to discuss the future of Russia not with the legitimate authorities, but with the escaped oppositionists

    Play with your partners.
    Only for Russia it's a shame.
  4. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 23 November 2022 17: 03
    +1
    The discussion of the future of the Russian Federation with the escaped oppositionists may be followed by the formation of a government in exile, otherwise what is the point of deciding something with those who are not authorized to do this.
  5. Vlad Burchilo Offline Vlad Burchilo
    Vlad Burchilo (Vladislav Labinskiy) 23 November 2022 17: 42
    +2
    we want to discuss the future of Russia with opposition leaders and people in exile

    in other words, they appointed us a new government.
    Here are just two catches: 1 V. V will not want to give up power.
    2, it is not known how society will react to such an "appointment".
    Something like this can "ride", somewhere in the "banana republic". Again, no guarantee.
    It didn't work in Venezuela.
  6. svit55 Offline svit55
    svit55 (Sergey Valentinovich) 23 November 2022 20: 28
    +1
    Announce the entire list

    We must know our "rulers" over the hill in order to immediately put them on the wanted list and demand extradition for violating the constitution.
  7. Rinat Offline Rinat
    Rinat (Rinat) 24 November 2022 08: 25
    -1
    Well, especially "gifted" ones will talk to each other, the exhaust will be the same as with guaido in Venezuela and Tikhanovskaya in Belarus. Sextons will hum, they will whistle into each other's holes,
    "clever" Khodors and other chess players, but the result is zero, thank God.
  8. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 24 November 2022 18: 52
    0
    The Anglo-Saxons put a cunning "fork" on Russia. By creating their own opposition to their own protege Putin, they, in their opinion, thus occupied both possible fields, leaving no room for a real alternative to their puppet power. Meanwhile, in order for Russia to break free, the forces that will free it from this deadly addiction will have to solve a difficult task and lead the people between these two "pseudo-poles."
    In fact, opposition to the protege of the Anglo-Saxons, Putin, at the same time means opposition to their "fifth column" and all the "oppositions" and "governments" they create in the West.
    The movement of the revival of Russia by its very existence and action will be the opposition to any (all) evil spirits that are destroying the country and its people. We will all have to learn to be attentive to what is happening, to help grow the good and eradicate the bad.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 24 November 2022 19: 45
      +1
      We have another trap set by the hands of agents of influence of the Anglo-Saxons. These are "pocket" parties (all), which served as a soft bedding for the authorities during all 30 years of its work for their overseas masters.
      When creating a new ruling mass people's party in Russia, one will also have to be extremely careful not to fall under the control of the Anglo-Saxons again. She will have to do everything from scratch
  9. lord-palladore-11045 (Konstantin Puchkov) 25 November 2022 11: 02
    0
    How can you talk to anyone about something that doesn't exist? Is it schizophrenia or something? The doctors know.