NVO may end with the division of Ukraine into Right-Bank and Left-Bank

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A series of “goodwill gestures” and “regroupings” of the Russian army in Ukraine eventually led to the fact that the territory of our country was already under attack. Particularly tense are recent evidence that a temporary freeze of the armed conflict is possible, into which we will go into an extremely unfavorable configuration on the fronts, and the enemy will use the time to prepare a decisive large-scale offensive. What can be done about all this?

"Great Donbass"


I remember that in April 2022 we predictedthat the entire border with Ukraine Russia could eventually turn into the "Greater Donbass", which will be regularly shelled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, killing our fellow citizens. Alas, that is exactly what happened.



If the first attack by two helicopters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on an oil depot in Belgorod, carried out on April 1, was a shock for someone, now artillery shelling and air attacks in the Belgorod, Bryansk and Kursk regions are already commonplace. The other day, a Ukrainian strike drone crossed the front line without hindrance and attacked a Russian oil depot in the Oryol region, located 200 kilometers from the border. DRGs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are actively operating in the Kursk region, carrying out sabotage at energy infrastructure facilities associated with nuclear power plants. Information stuffing went to the Ukrainian press that allegedly on the territory of the Kursk nuclear power plant of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for some reason it stores UAVs and ballistic missiles of Iranian production. One gets the impression that this is how the ground is being prepared for powerful strikes on it by the Kyiv regime in order to arrange a “Russian Chernobyl”.

There are even more problems now in the new Russian territories in the Donbass and the Sea of ​​Azov. After our voluntary surrender of Kherson, the Armed Forces of Ukraine only intensified their attacks on the dam of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station. According to the head of the Novokakhovsk city district, Vladimir Leontiev, it has already received “enormous damage”, the restoration of which will take at least a year. Also damaged was the infrastructure of the North Crimean Canal, on which the water supply of the peninsula depends. In the event of the final destruction of the dam, the freshly dug earthen fortifications of the RF Armed Forces on the low-lying Left Bank of the Kherson region will be flooded.

In addition, the Armed Forces of Ukraine got the opportunity to fire from the higher right bank of the Dnieper on highways connecting Crimea with the main part of the Russian Federation by land. If the offensive of the Ukrainian troops on Melitopol and Berdyansk is successful, the Azov region will be lost for us, and the peninsula will turn into an "island". In addition, without the liberation of the Dnipropetrovsk and Poltava regions, it will be impossible to solve the problem of water supply to the DPR and LPR, which are powered by the Dnieper-Donbass energy-type canal.

In general, the results of the JWO in the ninth month of its implementation, to be honest, are not very impressive. What is left for us to do, based on the real situation?

It should be recognized that this war will last for a long time, and freezing the conflict in such an unfavorable configuration as it is now is like death. Whatever fortifications are erected, a powerful concentrated strike is capable of breaking through any line of defense. In order for Greater Russia to feel more or less safe, there must be at least such a water barrier as the Dnieper between it and the main enemy forces. Based on this, we will try to consider two strategies for possible further actions.

Left Coast


As we concluded above, the preservation of the Kharkiv, Sumy and Chernihiv regions as part of Ukraine guarantees a permanent threat to the Russian Federation, since the Armed Forces of Ukraine can fire at our settlements from their territory, launch attack drones and bring their DRGs into the field. The fact of the need to create a security belt in the border area does not raise the slightest doubt. The only question is how wide it should be.

Given the fact that the Kyiv regime is getting more and more long-range missile systems, it is necessary to move the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the Russian borders as far as possible. Preferably for the Dnieper. To ensure the security of our country, at least the entire Left Bank must be liberated, turning, in fact, into a "buffer zone." About what its legal status can be, we will talk in more detail separately.

Access to the Dnieper as a natural border will allow us to move the strike weapons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine away from the Russian borders and guarantee the impossibility of a rapid large-scale offensive by the Ukrainian army on our positions. Such a "blitzkrieg" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, pumped up with NATO weapons, will subsequently become the main threat to the RF Armed Forces in the new Russian territories. Along the way, it will be possible to provide Donbass with water, which cannot be done peacefully. The loss of Kharkov, Poltava, Sumy and Chernihiv will be a heavy blow to the modern Ukrainian quasi-statehood, military, economic and political, which will partly compensate for the loss of Kherson by Russia, which we will discuss in detail reasoned earlier.

Those of our readers who consider it impossible to storm large cities should try to analyze the recent experience of the surrender of Kherson, Krasny Liman, Balakleya and Izyum by the RF Armed Forces. It is quite enough to encircle the city, cutting off all supply routes, so that the garrison itself will try to get out of it as soon as possible. If you use sufficiently large forces on the Left Bank, this is quite realistic, and it is better to do this in the winter, when the “brilliant green” has come down.

The option to recapture the entire Left Bank, making it a "buffer" between Russia and Ukraine, is quite working, and it can be called "defensive". Let it sound cynical, but the division of Ukraine into Right-Bank and Left-Bank will really solve many current security problems, but the main one remains unresolved - the Nazi Kyiv regime will remain on the opposite bank of the Dnieper and become a stronghold for the NATO bloc. The war with the Right-Bank Ukraine will still be inevitable, only postponed for some time.

Right bank


An alternative "defensive" scenario is "offensive", and its main goal should be to cut off Kyiv from its sponsors from the North Atlantic Alliance. The fact that the problem of supplying the Armed Forces of Ukraine with NATO weapons and ammunition could be solved by a simultaneous strike from the territory of Belarus on Western Ukraine and from near Kherson on Nikolaev and Odessa, we have repeatedly discussed. Alas, now, after the surrender of Kherson and the entire foothold on the Right Bank, we have to talk about such a possibility only in the past tense.

The only working option, how the RF Armed Forces can find themselves on the other side of the Dnieper without unacceptable losses, is to go there from the territory of Belarus. To do this, for the time being, we will have to forget about the liberation of the entire Left Bank and create two powerful strike groups in the North. The main blow will then go through Volyn through Lutsk, Rovno and Lvov to Uzhgorod. Having gained a foothold on this bridgehead, Russian troops will have to develop an offensive in a southerly direction, blocking the border with Romania and Moldova. In order not to get into the “cauldron” near the border with Europe in the event of a flank attack by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a second grouping will be needed, which will take Chernigov into an operational encirclement and move towards Kyiv. Then the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will have to decide what is more important - maintaining access to the Polish border or the capital.

Naturally, for such an operation, it will be necessary to use a truly powerful group of the RF Armed Forces of 200-300 thousand people with the ability to quickly transfer to Belarus and bring additional reserves into battle so that this is not some kind of gamble, as in February 2022. To do this, it will be necessary to carry out at least one more wave of mobilization in the winter. The loss of the Right Bank, if we focus specifically on it, will inevitably entail the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the Left Bank, which will be left without the ability to replenish the consumption of ammunition, fuel, fuel and lubricants and receive new machinery.

As a matter of fact, after the surrender of Kherson and the loss of a strategically important foothold in the South, these are the two main options from which we will have to choose if we do not want to sit out the defeat in the Azov region from the “blitzkrieg” of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Well, or you can now, with a smart look, make peace with the Kyiv regime and in a year and a half be knocked out in disgrace from the South of the former Square.
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  1. Paul3390
    Paul3390
    +21
    17 November 2022 14: 48
    It is impossible to leave access to the sea of ​​Tsegabonia. Under no circumstances. Otherwise, it's all in vain.
  2. rotkiv04
    rotkiv04
    +10
    17 November 2022 14: 55
    The NWO may end like this, but the war will not end for sure, it will simply be postponed while the outskirts army is being prepared and it will already be different
    1. Sidor Bodrov
      Sidor Bodrov
      +2
      18 November 2022 09: 52
      Exactly. Therefore, there is nothing to suffer from nonsense, hahloina must be destroyed completely to the ground. Otherwise, American maggots will breed there and crawl to Russia.
  3. Watching
    Watching
    0
    17 November 2022 15: 21
    Your fears sound realistic, I share them completely. It seems that the fighting spirit has already left the NWO, at least in the Kremlin, and apathy has come to replace it. Climbed into something from which now will not get out. And you have to get out, otherwise a skiff. It is unlikely that Belarus will allow the formation of a large Russian strike group on its territory. The south is closed for attack, the Ukrainians will no longer be able to cross the Dnieper, except perhaps due to the merciless bombardment of all their important infrastructure facilities, both military and civilian, and at the cost of heavy losses from the AFRF on the ground. NATO will not release their claws to Ukraine, there will be no neutrality for it. The Russian authorities need to decide what they want in this war. Even the enemies do not understand this.
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  4. aslanxnumx
    aslanxnumx
    +1
    17 November 2022 15: 32
    The author forgot that he does not live in the USSR, but in Russia. In Russia, generals can only wipe their pants or arrange parades. The leadership of the country can puff out its cheeks and wave its finger without removing diapers, and drive wealth abroad.
    1. soloist2424
      soloist2424
      +1
      17 November 2022 17: 52
      You have probably forgotten that four Russian generals were killed during the SVO. I don’t know if the generals fight well, “puffing out your cheeks is definitely not true.” I hope you got excited.
      1. aslanxnumx
        aslanxnumx
        +4
        17 November 2022 19: 30
        There, one ha advanced was a pilot.
        1. soloist2424
          soloist2424
          0
          25 November 2022 20: 13
          On February 28, Major General Andrey Sukhovetsky, Deputy Commander of the 41st Combined Arms Army of the Russian Ground Forces, died while performing a combat mission.
          On April 16, in St. Petersburg, they said goodbye to the deputy commander of the 8th Army, Major General Vladimir Frolov. According to the military correspondent, Frolov died during the storming of the Ilyich plant in Mariupol.
          Major General of the Russian Air Force, retired Kanamat Botashev, died heroically on May 22 in the sky over the Luhansk region.
          On the evening of June 5, it became known about the death of Major General Roman Kutuzov. Sladkov wrote that Kutuzov died during the offensive during the fighting for the Artemovsk-Lysichansk highway.
    2. Andrey Andreev_2
      Andrey Andreev_2
      +5
      18 November 2022 07: 27
      Can the Serdyukovites fight at all? All the current generals flourished precisely at the time of the 'command' of the country by Medvedev and the Defense Ministry Serdyukov. When 50 out of 70 military schools were put under the knife, the academies were taken out of Moscow, and professors and teachers did not want to leave, when hospitals were destroyed like cabbage, when the Russian Armed Forces lost their rear (by transferring to outsourcing) and so on. These rulers should be sent to the front line, together with their near and distant relatives, to atone for their 'deeds' with blood ...
  5. Igor Viktorovich Berdin
    Igor Viktorovich Berdin
    +6
    17 November 2022 15: 42
    Add Odessa, Nikolaev, Dnipropetrovsk and Kirovograd. Galicia to Poland. Northern Bukovina to Romania, Transcarpathia to Hungary. The remaining Ukraine has a neutral status without the right to have armed forces.
    1. lord-palladore-11045
      lord-palladore-11045
      +5
      18 November 2022 07: 56
      No, you need to take everything, only then think about what to change and from whom. For the safety of Kaliningrad, the Psheks need to exchange the Suwalki corridor. That's when everything will be fine.
  6. Omas Bioladen
    Omas Bioladen
    -1
    17 November 2022 15: 49
    Polen will also have haben.
    1. vlad127490
      vlad127490
      0
      17 November 2022 19: 54
      Polen hat deutsche Lander erobert. Schlesien, Ostpreußen und Pommern wurden von Deutschland zugunsten Polens abgelehnt. Insgesamt verlor Deutschland 25% der Territorien von den Grenzen von 1937!!! Nach den Ergebnissen des Zweiten Weltkriegs hat kein Staat mehr erhalten.
      1. Omas Bioladen
        Omas Bioladen
        0
        25 November 2022 10: 21
        eben. Polens System functions. Jetzt braucht Polen mehr.
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  7. Sydor Kovpak
    Sydor Kovpak
    +11
    17 November 2022 16: 03
    Ukraine with its statehood and its Ukrainianness have exhausted themselves. In the future, the existence of Ukraine is meaningless. And the remnants of it will never be Ukrainian. It will be another pro-Western anti-Russia with laboratories and missile silos. And the anti-Russian covens will never stop there. The longer the truce, the more difficult it will be to defeat this fascist plague. Eight years have already shown that this will only aggravate the situation. The "infection" of children and youth is in full swing there.
    1. re
      re
      0
      18 November 2022 10: 35
      Quote: Sidor Kovpak
      The "infection" of children and youth is in full swing there.

      And we are the same, only in the opposite direction. What's next?
      1. Sydor Kovpak
        Sydor Kovpak
        0
        18 November 2022 11: 05
        Where are you and what is the opposite?
  8. Atmospheric QUEEN
    Atmospheric QUEEN
    +5
    17 November 2022 16: 49
    To whom did the peacekeeper leave Nikolaev and Odessa?
  9. Pravodel
    Pravodel
    +11
    17 November 2022 17: 30
    Such a division would be the worst outcome of the war for Russia. After some time, Russia will receive an even more angry population and even more angry Banderlogs, who will again have to be pacified, but with even greater losses.
    The war in Ukraine must necessarily end with the return of the entire left-bank Ukraine, Nikolaev, Odessa regions with access to Transnistria, the annexation of Sumy, Khmelnitsky, Poltava, Zhytomyr, Ternopil, Khmelnitsky, Rivne, Vinnitsa, etc. regions. All areas where nuclear power plants are located should be returned to Russia.
    The return of the Vinnitsa region to Russia in the future will prevent a possible NATO strike at the junction of Transnistria and the Odessa region.
    The question of the return of the Chernivtsi region to Russia should be decided in the course of the return of the remaining regions of Ukraine.
    Kyiv, the mother of Russian cities, should also be returned to Russia. Without Kyiv, Russia will not be complete. It is impossible to leave in the hands of banderlogs of our saints buried in the Kyiv Lavra...
  10. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
    Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
    +2
    17 November 2022 18: 04
    The author, as usual, is wrong in his assessments, which he is simply not allowed to evaluate. According to his version, you need to move (move away) as far as possible from the enemy army so that there is the least harm from it. Doggy nonsense! The least and then the complete absence of harm can only be in one single case - the complete absence (destruction) of ANY army that poses a threat to Russia, wherever it is in space ... yes, even on the moon!
    Moreover, for America, whose arsenal is orders of magnitude larger than Russia's, this trouble in Ukraine is just a distracting fragment of a wider military operation directly on Russian territory itself. Therefore, the entire arsenal of Russia in Ukraine is not being used now. Strengthening the front line, as it is now, makes it possible to gradually transfer industry, the economy, and financial flows to the military rails of the entire country. The main enemy - America will not miss not only Ukraine, but all of Russia too. There is only one conclusion - to mobilize the country for confrontation at the initial stage and then destroy (denazification and demilitarization) the main culprit of everything and everything - America. But the author's wings have not yet grown to such heights and it seems that they will never grow.
    1. borisvt
      borisvt
      +1
      18 November 2022 01: 49
      In principle, I completely agree with you, in this confrontation our enemy is the United States. However, in vain you are so, by God, uncompromisingly to the author.
      Sergey, of course, writes articles on the topic of the day, responding to the rapidly changing situation, and at the same time rightly tries to predict what this will result in. I think when the situation calms down a bit, we can expect a long-term forecast from him, 10-20 years ahead. Personally, I am sure that this will be a sharp and also controversial article, maybe not just one, since our author, in my opinion, is very good at summarizing and analyzing information, and presenting it like this, causing a lot of conflicting responses. He is for us and a great fellow))
      The USA is a huge country, with a population twice as large as ours, the owner of a reserve currency, which is put into mattresses in the form of green papers by half of the world's population and is accepted and used with pleasure by merchants all over the planet. It has excellent scientific and industrial achievements, an excellent climate, where 2/3 of the territory is south of Tbilisi, where 4% of the population is engaged in agriculture and feeds the whole country, including about 30 million people who live on benefits and buy goods on coupons, those. loafers. There are skilled workers and employees who work at full speed with labor productivity that we have not yet dreamed of, and you want to defeat it like this, in half a year - a year, albeit indirectly?
      GDP says that we have not yet begun to fight, so they, the United States, are still in full force with us and have not resisted.
      I think it’s too early to measure their strengths directly with them, let the circumstances turn out to be more favorable. They started at least, but whether there will be more ((
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
        Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
        +1
        18 November 2022 22: 26
        borisvt, I am not against forecasts of anyone at all, I am against the statements of those who add their own worldview, upbringing and personal attitude to these forecasts, both to the vertical of power and to personnel from top to bottom in a negative light. You yourself wrote about the same thing - ... trying to predict and what it will result in ... It would seem that everything is in its place, however, even you write - ... what it will result in, not in a bunch - trying, what is closer to - is trying to predict what it CAN result in. Do you understand? That is - he tries to contradict the statement, as a fact that has already happened - it will pour out, poured out, happened, happened. From personal ambitions, the negative is simply rushing not associated with non-recognition, I would even say - categorical non-recognition of any opinion different from the opinion-statement of the author. The question is - what is the author of an article on which comments with different opinions and different from the opinion of the author are supposed to achieve if these excellent comments are simply deleted? It seems that after deleting comments, all other commentators support the opinion of the author. How correct is this?
        Regarding the power of America. How this power is achieved, and how it is used throughout the world, I think it makes no sense to write. Many were frightened or were bought, or simply due to the lag in the development of the economy, they were not able, and even now, to resist this power in the master-slave bond. Maybe they like this state of affairs (Western Europe) or just a military defeat. As a result, there is a robbery of controlled territories, an increase in even greater power and, due to it, the elimination of competitors under the pretext of National Security. Classics of the genre. But with Russia, this number can no longer pass for the simple reason that the question, in fact, is no longer in danger of America's national security, but the threat to the existence of America itself in general. Here already its power does not play any role at all. I didn’t say it, but I agree with the axiom - Why does Russia need a world in which there will be no Russia.
        Well, in the end: the author almost constantly criticizes both the authorities and the leadership of the General Staff and the government, and in general everything and everyone in his own incomprehensible pattern. That's all and everything in Russia is not so with him. Maybe it's time for him to give an example of at least one ideal state (wa) where everything is, right?
        1. borisvt
          borisvt
          +1
          19 November 2022 09: 42
          Oleg, thanks for the voluminous and informative comment, it is clear that you are a person who thinks and cheers for our country! And I, too, and the author, too, though our points of view do not quite coincide))
          I completely agree with you that the ideal country cannot be found, and the States are no exception. For the time being - for the time being they managed to use their advantage of physical remoteness from violent military events, now yes, this is not the case and only a direct threat can frighten them.
          I am personally sure that after some calming - in any form - on the fallow land, it will be necessary to organize several bases next to them in Latin America. Only in this way will it be possible to equalize the military disposition somehow. Otherwise, the Americans will and will continue to put pressure and stand their ground.
          Unless, of course, China takes over Taiwan.
    2. Nelton
      Nelton
      -2
      18 November 2022 18: 13

      The main enemy - America will not miss not only Ukraine, but all of Russia too. There is only one conclusion - to mobilize the country for confrontation at the initial stage and then destroy (denazification and demilitarization) the main culprit of everything and everything - America. But the author's wings have not yet grown to such heights

      In a direct military confrontation with the United States, the Russian Federation has no chance of surviving.
      (What will happen to the USA in this case is violet to me).
      But if you believe the forecasts, the United States has so many problems that we would have to stand for a day and hold out at night .... what to do with China then is not clear ...
  11. Vladimir Tuzakov
    Vladimir Tuzakov
    +5
    17 November 2022 18: 39
    Now actions are underway across the entire infrastructure of Ukraine, which means the goal is the whole of Ukraine. To bring statehood to collapse and then the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not have the foundations for victory, which means a predetermined defeat. Therefore, there is no need to divide Ukraine in advance. After the defeat and victory, the further fate of Ukraine will become clear. It remains for small, to finish the collapse of statehood faster. The only question is why there are no so advertised strikes on decision centers in Ukraine - the presidency, the cabinet of ministers, the Defense Ministry, because by destroying these structures, the chaos of statehood will come much faster.
  12. Alex_90
    Alex_90
    -4
    17 November 2022 18: 52
    Everyone writes that such a truce is not necessary and that Ukraine will be pumped up with weapons.
    But not only Ukraine will prepare, right?
    Now we have understood what our army is like, and that tank biathlon is not a guarantee of victory.
    We will have time for reforms, for mobilizing the economy, and so on. For normal training, so to speak.
    And it turns out that NATO has not even started seriously yet, because they transfer only a few equipment .. and we are already losing.
    Conclusions will be drawn, I believe.
    And Ukraine will merge, most likely, during this time in economic terms. There, and so now, from the previous 40 million population, 20 million remain.
    So now only freezing will help.
    1. Grei grin
      Grei grin
      +1
      18 November 2022 18: 05
      Just as the economy is being restored, which was destroyed, so the army will be restored! thieves, he would only fill his pockets and dump on the same West, to children and mistresses! And all that real patriots dream about here will be nothing! In a word, if the enemy is in the rear, do not expect victory! Stalin, in order to defend Moscow, got rid of the fifth column, in our time it is difficult to do this, it is in power everywhere and crap incessantly, both against the backdrop of hostilities and in the rear! Do we have more than half, if not all, citizens of NATO member states in power, and do they have everything there and to whom do they obey?
    2. Ibuprofen
      Ibuprofen
      +1
      21 November 2022 07: 03
      Quote: Alex_90
      So now only freezing will help

      What will help? Will they immediately begin to love Russians? Will the whole world lift sanctions? Will the attitude of the world to the operation change? Will Russian budget revenues miraculously reach the pre-sanction level? Will dead men be resurrected? Will the economy start to work, will thousands of departed foreign companies return?
  13. Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev
    0
    17 November 2022 19: 13
    Maybe, maybe not...
    Since Putin quickly annexed all the new regions, then the return of some of these regions will be another drain .... although they are no strangers. They will explain.
    And the areas that have not yet been annexed will need to be .... grinded with lunar landscapes or so.
    How the card will fall. Maybe aliens will come and build communism there or the Chelyabinsk meteorite will hit on ....
  14. vlad127490
    vlad127490
    +7
    17 November 2022 19: 44
    There is only one decision on Ukraine in favor of the people of Russia. The state of Ukraine must cease to exist. The entire territory of Ukraine should return to Russia, in the form of regions and republics. There is no state of Ukraine, no debts, no government of Ukraine in exile, no legal Bandera, no Ukrainian participants in various international organizations, no hostile state on the border of the Russian Federation. Russia will strengthen its economic and military-political influence in the world, there will be direct access to the EU countries. The northwestern part of the Black Sea will belong to Russia.
    If the state of Ukraine is left, then today and in the future, Russia will always have an enemy in the person of Ukraine. Ukraine will definitely join NATO and will definitely attack Russia. Everything that is promised and will be spelled out in the Constitution of Ukraine, in its documents, Ukraine will change, in the way that is beneficial to the United States and its satellites.
    The abandonment of the state of Ukraine, in any of its territories, means the surrender of the Russian Federation.
    1. guest
      guest
      0
      24 November 2022 01: 01
      This is all right, but unfortunately we have really naive people in power who believe that enemies will be grateful to them for concessions.
  15. paramaribo55 kmt
    paramaribo55 kmt
    +5
    17 November 2022 20: 03
    No, this is not a way out, a section along the Dnieper. SVO (War), should not stop for a single day. Ukraine must be defeated on the whole territory. All nationalists must be disposed of, without any negotiations and cunning schemes. Russia has all the necessary resources for this. All that is needed is the will and determination of the supreme power, but this is just not observed.
  16. bobba94
    bobba94
    +1
    17 November 2022 21: 30
    The hen is in the nest, the egg is in ......., and here they divide the independent land into the Left Bank and the Right Bank.
  17. Semyon Sukhov
    Semyon Sukhov
    +4
    18 November 2022 00: 06
    If at least some significant piece of Banderstan remains, Russia will end ...
    Since a nuclear power cannot lose a war to a second-rate, impoverished and wretched country inhabited by a crazy population that has given Nenka into the hands of its enemies, I bet that things will not end on the right coast ...
  18. Sergey3939
    Sergey3939
    +1
    18 November 2022 13: 05
    Understatement, without Mykolaiv and Odessa regions!!!
  19. mechanic
    mechanic
    +2
    18 November 2022 16: 34
    The author's position is strange: to occupy the entire left bank so that Ukrainian missiles do not reach the territory of Russia. But if Russia occupies the left bank, it will have to include it in Russia, which means that we again get what we wanted to get away from.
    Therefore, this will not solve today's problems in any way.
  20. Grei grin
    Grei grin
    +1
    18 November 2022 17: 55
    It seems to me that the Kremlin doesn’t care how the war in Ukraine ends, this can be seen from the concessions and constant retreats by agreement with partners and colleagues rather than enemies, for hucksters the main thing is to buy and sell, stuffing their money bags in the West, because their children are there and they go there they will go to live out their last days in luxury, and to their homeland we ... be!
    1. guest
      guest
      0
      24 November 2022 01: 05
      Quote from Grey Grin
      they will go to live out their last days in luxury

      Well, if our government really believes in this, then the rules of the forum do not allow me to say who they are. If the fate of Milosevic, Hussein and Gaddafi taught them nothing.
  21. Panzer1962
    Panzer1962
    +3
    18 November 2022 18: 17
    Dreams, dreams, where is your sweetness ... Here, God forbid, fight off a possible blow in a southerly direction.
    In general, IMHO, without an investigation against those who imposed a "small, compact, contact army" on Russia, there will be nothing good without a verdict under the article of treason. But these people are very nice people for the Kremlin, so they can get away with everything.
    1. Nelton
      Nelton
      +2
      18 November 2022 18: 27
      Quote: Panzer1962
      imposed on Russia "a small, compact, contact army"

      Where is it compact? in the country, millions of people wear shoulder straps.
      up to 4,5 million according to preliminary estimates.

      That is why the vast majority of them have not yet participated in the NWO on the front line - this is what needs to be dealt with.
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
      Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
      0
      19 November 2022 21: 13
      Panzer, we seem to have * two armies * one under a contract - at will and mandatory - spring and autumn, conscription, where the desire is not considered. Who are you going to condemn?
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  23. Only honestly
    Only honestly
    0
    18 November 2022 22: 42
    Your words, yes the General Staff of the Russian Federation in the ears! You look, and there would be progress in the NWO for the RF Armed Forces. The surrender of Kherson will haunt Russian soldiers for a long time to come. It was clear from Surovikin's face that this was not his decision, but the GDP, which for some reason refused to publicly accept responsibility for this retreat, forcing Shoigu to do it. "The supply manager - business executive" makes a strategic decision! In which army of the world is this practiced? Nowhere! Since the ministers of defense are not generals, but administrators, therefore they often appoint women to this position.
  24. Only honestly
    Only honestly
    0
    18 November 2022 23: 02
    If Stalin had stopped on the border with Poland, then the Second World War did not end in 1945, but God knows when, and who would have been the winner is unknown. Only the complete capitulation of the Nazis will save the situation and preserve Russia's status as a world power. Russia simply needs to cut off Ukraine from the sea, that its authorities were dependent on the Russian merchant fleet, which connected Donbass with Transnistria, first of all. After signing the act of surrender, a written assurance of indefinite neutrality and non-bloc existence, and then let them restore their country themselves! No free help! Only mutually beneficial trade. Let the Westerners spend money on supporting Ukraine.
  25. kalita
    kalita
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    19 November 2022 11: 15
    Doesn't fit like that. Odessa should be part of Russia, and we need access by land to Transnistria, where our peacekeepers are, otherwise they are completely cut off from Russia and there is no way to help them if anything. Ukraine still needs to be deprived of the sea so that NATO could not supply weapons.
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    2. guest
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      24 November 2022 01: 10
      All right, but we're in another grain deal.
  26. kriten
    kriten
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    19 November 2022 11: 30
    Our super-rich, including those in power, began to pay for such articles in order to persuade the supreme power to betray the country. But this is only a pause and no more than a couple of years. It is clear that the poor are not in our power, and for many of them the lost is more precious than any patriotism. This is another approach to defeat the country, and, as always, the elites, both business and those in power, are working against it.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
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      19 November 2022 21: 05
      Kriten, what would happen if all the poor were in power? How do you imagine it and where to get poor power?
  27. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3
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    20 November 2022 07: 00
    Look how the author is frightened by the Bendera people, that they wanted to hide behind the sea, but did they forget about the tall concrete fence ??? And to whom will you give the Russians in the Nikolaev and Odessa regions, but also forgot the Russians in Krivoy Rog ??? A lot of good things were written by the author, but I did not expect such nonsense!
  28. Kazimir Prutikoff
    Kazimir Prutikoff
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    21 November 2022 09: 01
    The flight of the author's imagination is impressive. This is complete manilovism. After the withdrawal of troops from Kherson to the left bank, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are accumulating forces to attack Melitopol. We would have to keep those territories that we control at the moment. Our army has lost strategic initiative. It seems that the General Staff is planning a deaf defense.
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  30. Pravodel
    Pravodel
    +1
    27 November 2022 12: 48
    NVO may end with the division of Ukraine into Right-Bank and Left-Bank

    Such a division of Ukraine is the worst ending to the war in Ukraine. In addition to the fact that Russia remains without Kyiv - the mother of Russian cities where Russian saints are buried, but also without access to Transnistria ... Moreover, after a while, when the Anglo-Saxons come to their senses and again pump up Ukraine with weapons and put all Westerners on the gun, diluting their Poles and various other tribalts, Russia will be forced to start a new war in order to finally calm the enraged Ukraine of the Banderlogs ...
    History does not forgive unfinished business...
  31. Panzer1962
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    1 December 2022 11: 14
    Quote from Nelton.
    Quote: Panzer1962
    imposed on Russia "a small, compact, contact army"

    Where is it compact? in the country, millions of people wear shoulder straps.
    up to 4,5 million according to preliminary estimates.

    That is why the vast majority of them have not yet participated in the NWO on the front line - this is what needs to be dealt with.

    The number of personnel of the Military personnel of the Ministry of Defense - 1 people until recently, another 105 - civil servants. You don’t drive a blizzard, about 000 lyama people, don’t merge the police, the Federal Penitentiary Service and other Russian Guards here, this is never an ARMY.
    At the same time, in the Ground Forces, out of 1105000 military personnel, there are no more than 400. Well, a huge number.
  32. Panzer1962
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    1 December 2022 11: 17
    Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
    Panzer, we seem to have * two armies * one under a contract - at will and mandatory - spring and autumn, conscription, where the desire is not considered. Who are you going to condemn?

    It is bad not to know and forget that both contract soldiers and conscripts in total were in the same number - 1105000 military personnel in the Ministry of Defense. There are about 300 conscripts out of a million-odd. And there are no parallel armies in Russia.