Why the bet on foreigners in the Russian army is wrong

The main problem in the conduct of the special military operation in Ukraine for the first nine months was considered to be an acute shortage of forces involved in it. They were not enough not only for a successful offensive, but, alas, even for defense. With the announcement of partial mobilization in Russia, the problem began to be gradually resolved, but it automatically pulled along another, less obvious one, in the sphere of ideas and meanings.

International Brigades?

Back in March 2022, not someone, but Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu personally announced that to strengthen the Russian grouping involved in Ukraine with foreign volunteers when communicating with Supreme Commander-in-Chief Putin:

We receive a huge number of applications from all sorts of volunteers from different countries who would like to come to the Lugansk and Donetsk People's Republics in order to participate in what they consider to be the liberation movement. The largest number is from the countries of the Middle East: already more than 16 thousand applications ...

And here, of course, we consider it right to respond positively to requests, especially since these requests are not for money, but according to the true desire of these people. We know many of them, they helped in the fight against ISIS (an international terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation) at the most difficult time, in the last ten years.

Surprisingly, despite the clear approval of this very good idea by President Putin, we did not see any volunteers from Syria and other countries of the Middle East on the Ukrainian fronts. Later, the domestic media discussed the idea that the DPRK, one of the few truly sovereign countries in the world that recognized the independence of the DPR and LPR, could send its special forces to the Donbass, but it turned out to be zilch. What happened, what kind of “red line” from Western and Turkish partners the Kremlin was afraid to cross, is unknown.
The fact remains that things did not go further than smart talk.

It is a pity, because the DPRK Special Operations Forces are the most numerous, trained and highly motivated in the world, which we will discuss in detail told previously. The North Korean special forces have everything except one thing - real combat experience. It was his MTR that the DPRK could have received by sending its fighters to the Donbass, where they would have to face foreign mercenaries-thugs and the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who turned into the "avatar" of the NATO bloc. An analysis of the experience of real combat operations would help Pyongyang better prepare for the confrontation with Seoul, Tokyo and Washington. In return, Moscow could help North Korea with food and energy supplies.

Apparently, for the Kremlin, such a close rapprochement with the DPRK turned out to be too bold a step. Instead, the bet was made on our near abroad, from where migrant workers go to Russia to earn money.

The opportunity to recruit citizens of Central Asia for military service in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation was before, under a contract. This made it possible to obtain Russian citizenship in an expedited manner, in three years instead of five. On September 21, 2022, simultaneously with the announcement of partial mobilization, the period for obtaining a Russian passport for those who completed military service in the RF Armed Forces under a contract was reduced to one year. It would seem that this is it, the solution to the problem with the shortage of infantry at the front?

Unfortunately, everything is much more complicated than we would like. On the one hand, more than three decades have passed since the collapse of the USSR, and a new generation was born in Central Asia, who grew up with a different cultural code. The recent terrorist attack at a training ground in the Belgorod region, where two immigrants from the CIS countries shot soldiers who were being trained before being sent to Ukraine, clearly demonstrated what a clash of people with different mentalities and belonging to different religions, having weapons in their hands, could lead to. On the other hand, these former Soviet republics themselves prohibit their citizens from participating in a Russian special operation under the threat of criminal liability.

Thus, the Embassy of Kyrgyzstan, by the way, our ally within the CSTO, issued the following warning:

In connection with the adoption by the State Duma of the Russian Federation of legislative acts providing for the simplified acquisition of Russian citizenship by foreigners who have entered into a contract for service in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the Embassy of the Kyrgyz Republic in the Russian Federation warns citizens of the Kyrgyz Republic temporarily staying on the territory of the Russian Federation from participating in armed conflicts.

A similar statement was made by the Prosecutor General's Office of Uzbekistan:

We call on our compatriots living in foreign countries not to join the armed forces, not to participate in hostilities and once again warn that such actions entail criminal liability.

“Friendly” Kazakhstan was the first to oppose Russia’s assistance, which in March 2022 began to frighten its citizens with Article 172 of the Criminal Code of the Republic of Kazakhstan (“Participation in foreign armed conflicts”). By the way, it was introduced into the Criminal Code of Kazakhstan in 2014, after the start of the Russian Spring, renamed the Crimean Spring.

In general, we can conclude that the Kremlin's bet on the Central Asian infantry turned out to be beaten. Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan do not want to participate in the NWO, the real goals of which have not been clarified over the past almost nine months. What remains?


After evaluating each of our potential allies, we came to the logical conclusion that we can't count on anyone but ourselves. For some reason, no one is eager to get involved in the NWO on the side of the Kremlin with all its, to put it mildly, “oddities”. It is Russian soldiers who will have to pull this strap to the end. However, there is one option.

If President Putin nevertheless comes to the simple idea of ​​filling the special operation with clear meaning, for example, to overthrow the Nazi regime of Zelensky, bring him to the tribunal and 100% liberate the territory of Ukraine with its accession to the Union State of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus, then one could count on the help of an adequate part Ukrainian people.

Even now, after all these "regroupings" and "goodwill gestures", there are still many people who want to liberate their country from Nazism. Instead of luring Uzbeks and Kyrgyz into the Russian army, it would be possible to create a "Ukrainian Volunteer Army", which we have spoken about repeatedly over the past almost nine months. After a polygraph test, all interested citizens of the former Nezalezhnaya could go into it as volunteers, of course, under the command of officers from the RF Armed Forces and the NM LDNR. Such an allied Ukrainian army could participate in the liberation of their country, negotiating with the garrisons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and restoring order in the already occupied territories.

A lot of time has already been spent ineptly, rivers of blood have been shed, but it is not too late to act smart and right. But for this, the NWO must turn into a War of Liberation in Ukraine, where the RF Armed Forces, the NM LDNR and the UDAR will fight shoulder to shoulder against Nazism.
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  1. Alexfly Offline Alexfly
    Alexfly (Alexander) 16 November 2022 15: 56
    Distrust of one's own people gives rise to a desire to invite foreigners .... And nothing else ...
  2. Grits Offline Grits
    Grits (Alexander) 16 November 2022 16: 03
    Regarding the participation in the NWO soldiers of the DPRK. Russia's refusal of such assistance is utter stupidity. North Korean soldiers in sufficient numbers could well turn the tide of this war, which we are frankly beginning to lose. It is not clear that our leadership is afraid - is it really some kind of tough response from the Republic of Kazakhstan? Well, how will they answer us? Deliveries of their self-propelled guns and tanks to Ukraine? So they will soon and so they will deliver. Conclusion - our leadership is not only mediocre, but also pathologically squishy
    1. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
      Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 16 November 2022 16: 39
      and syklivoe because the interests of the oligarchs (merged with the Russian government, including GDP) prevail over the state. Since 2014 their bet is only on freezing the conflict.
  3. Nelton Offline Nelton
    Nelton (Oleg) 16 November 2022 16: 37
    We have 4,5 million people who wear shoulder straps of various stripes, receive good money and early access to a "tasty" pension precisely because, in which case, they risk their lives to meet an adversary without any questions and snot.

    And where are they?

    That would be all of them - yes, to the front line, by rotation, for 2-3 months a year - and here you are, an army of ~ 1 million professional security officials.

    And by the way, the mobilized should also be on rotation, 1 - 2 months a year, of which in 40 km of the front-line zone no more than a month. And everyone's insurance is the average salary in the country (for men), multiplied by the average length of service (at retirement).
    1. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 16 November 2022 16: 47
      An army is needed here and there to protect the rulers from their people. After all, they remember how the revolution was during the First World War, when all of Europe was shaking. So, sho again in foreign lands?
  4. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 16 November 2022 16: 44
    They cannot do this. After all, the present Ukraine and Russia are of the same blood. Although they hate each other, they are much closer by blood than the people of these two countries. They can’t eat their own, the people can, the rulers of Nizya!
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 16 November 2022 17: 21
      You can’t touch the rulers of either Ukraine or the Russian Federation, because there they rule from Raelites, and they protect their own. An example: most of the Raelites of the Russian Federation, with Chubais, the Pugachev clan and other Friedmans, fled from responsibility for their deeds in the event of possible popular unrest. Example: the rulers of Ukraine of Jewish blood: Kravchuk, Kuchma, Tymoshenko, Yatsenyuk, Turchinov, Poroshenko, Zelensky, and so on. I won’t list the Moscow ones, but the list is no less significant ...,
      1. Igor_E Offline Igor_E
        Igor_E (Igor) 20 November 2022 03: 18
        Poroshenko, of course, is a scumbag, but he is not a Jew (99%). I've dug the Internet well in searches. All articles about Poroshenko's Jewishness are fake. Tymoshenko is also not Jewish. Didn't google about the rest.
        1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 21 November 2022 23: 54
          (Remark) The Internet carefully cleans up such facts. Father Valtsman, lived in Moldova, P.Valtsman himself changed his last name, took Poroshenko's wife. etc.
          1. Igor_E Offline Igor_E
            Igor_E (Igor) 23 November 2022 00: 05
            Here is the most reliable info.
            This link must be viewed through a VPN, because. otherwise, the document photo will not be displayed.
            Just in case, I uploaded a photo of the documents found on Poroshenko's father and grandfather right here.

            Of course, there is a possibility that this is a fake, but still I am inclined to believe that this is true, my father and grandfather had the surname Poroshenko. There were no Waltzmans.
            On another forum, I read people's comments, where one woman wrote that she had lived in Israel for 10 years, worked with Israeli databases (perhaps a social worker or some kind of insurance issued), and for all the time she never met the name Valtsman. But there were many Weissmans and others like them. In general, the conclusion is that those who made up the fake about Poroshenko made a mistake and indicated the non-existent name Valtsman.
  5. molybdenum Offline molybdenum
    molybdenum (Stanislav) 16 November 2022 17: 37
    The author is apparently not aware that "ideas and meanings" were made public at the very beginning of the SVO. Yes, they are somewhat different from those that everyone has heard of, however. Another thing is that the voiced, alas, is unattainable (denazification and demilitarization). By the way, CBO, for my taste, is an extremely clumsy designation. ATO - that's what should have stopped. How beautiful and understandable it would sound for everyone: “On February 24, Russia decided to take part in the ATO, which it has been asked for so long.” :-) And the Western layman (voter) would not have to chew on the fact that all these are consequences and have been going on since 2014.
  6. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 16 November 2022 18: 05
    An army of over 2 million, a mobilization reserve of 25 million, and an acute shortage of infantry?
    Not a shortage, but the wrongly chosen strategy and tactics of the NMD based on NATO's development of the territory of Ukraine and the thesis about millions of Ukrainians who hate the existing regime in Ukraine.
    Mobilization of 300 thousand + 18 thousand volunteers + armies of the DPR-LPR and formations in new territories will temporarily close the acute shortage of infantry, and then?
    No one is talking about the denationalization of Ukraine, and the Russian Federation's insistent desire to complete the NVO with an agreement with Ukrainian nationalists is somewhat reminiscent of an agreement with Dudayev.
    At best, the treaty will provide for formal demilitarization, since after spending billions to support “democracy” and repulse the aggressor country, neither the EU nor NATO will stop “development” of the territory of Ukraine, this is obvious.
    Yes, and Mr. Medinsky, at negotiations with Ukrainian nationalists, said that the Russian Federation did not object to Ukraine's entry into the EU, which consists of almost 100 NATO members, and the chief manager Stoltenberg directly announced the strengthening of interaction, i.e. integration of the EU and NATO.
  7. Potapov Offline Potapov
    Potapov (Valery) 16 November 2022 21: 42
    Let them bloom from flowers ... PMCs are allowed, mobilized men from Donbass and Luhansk are allowed, but foreigners are not allowed ... With an essentially mercenary army, what is coaxing is ... Another thing is strategists, air, fleet, maybe not worth it .. .Although I know the exploits of the Marines, the affairs of the fleet ... not very much and with a minus ... But best of all is the lion at the head of our herd ... ...
  8. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 17 November 2022 00: 02
    Much water.
    And the essence is the same: no one thought to put into practice this deception.
    Like Syrian Negroes, volunteers were a cheap production (I think they dispersed immediately after the division of money), . and the participation of all these Kyrgyz is essentially a criminal offense ..
    Those. conscious use of foreign mercenaries ... The authorities will bypass these laws, but everyone understands that they can fly from Olympus at any moment.
    But all sorts of French, Germans, Russians who were volunteers in the Russian Spring saw how it ended ...
    Betrayal, poverty

    And seeing such an open disregard for rules and laws, no one wanted to help. Not like the Kyrgyz and the Chinese - even the Negroes. Although the Syrians, they wrote, took very inexpensively for participating in a special operation in Karabakh.
    1. 1_2 Offline 1_2
      1_2 (Ducks are flying) 17 November 2022 00: 24
      Asians of the CIS do not know how to fight, their element is the bazaar, taxis and construction. to fight you need a spirit, but the Asians don’t have it, there were Basmachi, but they didn’t fight, they made vile raids and quickly ran away
  9. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 17 November 2022 00: 19
    Chinese volunteers are already fighting in the NWO (there is a video), apparently Xi sent them before the storming of Taiwan), many Asians have been pumped up with Russophobic propaganda since childhood (there are Russian invaders in their history books, etc.), as well as Wahhabism - for them all the wrong enemies. I think Asians will not be taken to the NWO, they will take Christians, Catholics, Buddhists or North Korean atheists)). as well as Muslims from really friendly countries who do not consider Russians to be their occupiers
  10. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 17 November 2022 13: 32
    The main problem in the conduct of the special military operation in Ukraine for the first nine months was considered to be an acute shortage of forces involved in it.

    The main problem is the lack of desire for power and the lack of brains.
  11. Jstas Offline Jstas
    Jstas (jstas) 17 November 2022 14: 29
    Whoever does not want to feed his army will feed someone else's!
  12. Oleg V. Offline Oleg V.
    Oleg V. (Oleg Vladimirovich) 21 November 2022 13: 38
    And how many commandos can the DPRK give us???? Hardly more than a thousand people. What will they do? To engage in sabotage, dressed in the uniform of the Armed Forces of Ukraine????
  13. Saveliev A. A. Offline Saveliev A. A.
    Saveliev A. A. (Andrei) 22 November 2022 18: 12
    The bet on foreigners (including) is correct. To all who took up arms for their motherland, citizenship and benefits. Who died for the Motherland immediately to Paradise! You are a citizen of this state if you are ready to give for it the most precious thing - your life! If not ready, deprive citizenship! Hit in the rights (including driving). The nuances that may arise in this case are solvable because the soldiers are fighting and the workers work as they are controlled. In PMC Wagner, as in the Stalinist Red Army, you need to be a very brave person to be a coward!