2014-2022: Could something have gone differently in Ukraine?

With sincere bewilderment, sometimes turning into dumbfounded, watching where the special military operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine turned in the ninth month of its implementation, many Russians ask a fair question - why didn’t the NWO or CTO take place in 2014? This is a very good and correct question that needs to be dealt with in order to move on.

It will simply be necessary to talk about this difficult topic, since the author of the lines constantly has to meet with comments supposedly explaining why the NWO could not be held in Ukraine 8 years ago. Briefly, this thesis is as follows - "we were not ready then," and the creativity of the domestic "protective party" was enough for three mythologemes, on which, like three whales, this version is built. Let's deal with each.

"By the forces of one paratrooper..."

The main problem with all “protective” reasoning is that they are divorced from reality, or rather, they automatically transfer the realities of 2022 to 2014. At the same time, it is necessary to consider the situation in the context of that time and related events. So, what exactly happened in February 2014 in Kyiv?

There was an anti-constitutional coup d'état supported by the collective West. Legitimately elected incumbent President Yanukovych was forced to evacuate to Russia for his life. What response options did the Kremlin have?

You don’t have to invent anything special, we have already seen everything in Belarus in 2020 and in Kazakhstan at the beginning of 2022. In the so-called Belarusian scenario, it was enough for President Putin to firmly declare his support for the official Minsk, up to the unambiguous threat of bringing in Russian security forces:

Alexander Grigoryevich asked me to form a certain reserve of law enforcement officers. And I did it.

Having enlisted the support of the Kremlin, President Lukashenko received a complete carte blanche, the pro-Western opposition "turned sour", and local law enforcement agencies completely coped with the dispersal of Belomaidan.

In the “Kazakh scenario”, Russia went further, at the CSTO level, sending several thousand peacekeepers to help its ally. Again, our soldiers did not really have to fight, the local security forces and law enforcement officers managed everything. The peacekeepers played the role of a stabilizing military-political factor expressing the collective support of neighboring countries for the Tokayev regime in Nur-Sultan.

That, in fact, is all. To keep Yanukovych in power, it was enough to return him to Kyiv, giving him the same notorious parachute regiment as peacekeepers in support. They would not even have to disperse the Maidan themselves, it would have been done by the local security forces, having seen the direct support of Yanukovych from the Kremlin. What did Putin do in 2014?

In 2018, our main order-bearing propagandist Vladimir Solovyov made the film World Order-2018, in which Vladimir Vladimirovich personally told curious details of those tragic events:

But this is well known. Now I will say something that is not known: at the same moment, our American partners also turned to us, they asked us to do everything - I am now saying an almost verbatim request that Yanukovych not use the army, that the opposition vacate squares, administrative buildings and cross to the implementation of the agreements reached on the normalization of the situation.

We said: "Good"... A coup d'état was carried out a day later. Well, at least they would call, at least they would do something!

That is, Putin, at the request of the Americans, helped to prevent Yanukovych from dispersing Maidan on his own, and then did not begin to bring in peacekeepers himself, for which it was enough to use a written request from the legally elected president of Ukraine. Why?

We would be strangled by sanctions!

In trying to explain the behavior of Vladimir Putin, many Russians themselves begin to come up with various excuses. They say that our economy in 2014 was not ready for Western sanctions and that we would have then turned off payment systems and so on and so forth.

Reading and listening to all this, I would like to ask a counter question - but, in general, why on earth should sanctions have been imposed on Russia in 2014? If the Kremlin brought in peacekeepers at Yanukovych's request to restore constitutional order, what exactly would they be brought in for? Were “hellish” Western sanctions imposed on Moscow and Nur-Sultan because Russia supported friendly Kazakhstan in early 2022?

The second logical question is why our “guardians” transfer the realities of 2022 to 2014? This is our country today, humiliated by a series of military defeats from some kind of Ukraine, after all these crossed “red lines” and numerous sanctions packages, it is facing a vote in the UN on the need to pay reparations to the Nazi Kyiv regime.

As of 2014, when Russia was “on the show” and the whole world was afraid of President Putin’s menacing wiggling of the eyebrows, this was simply impossible. The maximum that we could get for bringing peacekeepers to Kyiv is the level of the “Crimean sanctions”, which we ourselves laughed at 8 years ago.

But we have been preparing for 8 years!

The first two mythologemes flow smoothly into the third, which tries to explain why Putin did not start the NWO or CTO in 2014. It is alleged that the Russian army was then supposedly not ready for this. Say, all these 8 years we have been constantly conducting military exercises, and the RF Armed Forces have been re-equipped with the most modern weapons by 80%!

A counter question - and with whom there in Ukraine we had to fight in 2014?

In the period from February to May 2014, there was no legal authority in Nezalezhnaya at all, then it was enough to bring in peacekeepers, giving them President Yanukovych's SVO for legitimacy. See point 1. After the Kremlin recognized the Poroshenko regime, who came to power in May 2014, the situation deteriorated significantly, but the opportunity for a NWO or CTO was all the time, especially after Kyiv cut off water supplies to Crimea and began terrorist operation in the Donbass.

No matter how “bad” the Russian army was allegedly as of 2014, the Ukrainian one was even worse. We can say that it practically did not exist. The Armed Forces of Ukraine were small, disorganized, poorly trained and demoralized. At that time no one wanted to fight with Russia, could not and did not know how. This was clearly confirmed in several “cauldrons”, where the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2014-2015 were utterly defeated by the LDNR militia with limited assistance from the “north wind”. Then it was more than enough to win.

We have already seen how the Kyiv regime used the 8 years donated under the Minsk agreements for the preparation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. We, alas, have seen enough of how cool the Russian army was prepared for the war during the same time. As well as the Ukrainian fortified areas built in the Donbass over the years. Would the sanctions for NWO in 2014-2015 be "hellish"?

See paragraph. 2.
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  1. Nelton Online Nelton
    Nelton (Oleg) 15 November 2022 14: 58
    To keep Yanukovych in power, it was enough to return him to Kyiv, giving him the same notorious parachute regiment as peacekeepers in support.

    Everything is fine, Yanukovych is returning to Kyiv on Russian bayonets, ours, waving their hands, are leaving.
    In the fall of 2014, freelance elections take place (well, or in 2015, full-time), and Yanukovych loses them with a bang, the curtain.
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 15 November 2022 15: 19
      Everything is so, to this day on the issue of Ukraine, the United States runs everything and beats the government of the Russian Federation dry. Even CBO is played initially due to opposition from the services of the United States and England. Why is this happening, perhaps the fifth column in the Russian Federation is too influential (Chubais, Abramovich, Fridman, Aven, etc., who faded away, foreseeing the future), corrupt higher authorities are always more aimed at personal enrichment, and state affairs are second-rate, and the RF Armed Forces are defeated and have not been restored in a decade, doing window dressing and PR of single samples, and so on. There are many reasons and miscalculations, and who will answer for all the defeats - a complex and existential question - who will be the switchman? Although here the "director" must be changed first ...
      1. ale29492492 Offline ale29492492
        ale29492492 (Alexander Rozhkov) 15 November 2022 19: 51
        The foolish population, which has been choosing the Yeltsinists for 30 years, should be responsible for everything. And the whole nation is already paying for these idiots. And of course they pay too.
        1. Alexey Lan Online Alexey Lan
          Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 15 November 2022 23: 11
          Do we have real democratic elections? Personally, I doubt it.
    2. guest Offline guest
      guest 17 November 2022 22: 24
      Quote from Nelton.
      Everything is fine, Yanukovych is returning to Kyiv on Russian bayonets, ours, waving their hands, are leaving.

      Somewhere it was already. Oh yes, in Kazakhstan.
  2. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
    Paul3390 (Paul) 15 November 2022 15: 02
    Actually - in 2014 we had an absolutely legitimate president of Ukraine in our hands. And if we, at his request, resolved the crisis by military means, it is highly unlikely that someone in the West would try to get excited seriously .. On the basis of what, in fact?? But - alas, with such chic trump cards in his hands, our great strategist played as stupidly as possible, squandering an opportunity that comes once a century .. And now - we are all paying for it ..
    1. Nikolaevich I Offline Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I (Vladimir) 15 November 2022 19: 18
      Quote from Paul3390
      with such chic trump cards in his hands, our great strategist played as stupidly as possible, squandering an opportunity that comes once a century .. And now - we are all paying for it ...

      Absolutely agree with you! I said about the same thing back in 2014, when it became clear that the Kremlin elite at the head of Putin merged Novorossia! "I approve... cowardice? indecision? Putin!
    2. ale29492492 Offline ale29492492
      ale29492492 (Alexander Rozhkov) 15 November 2022 19: 58
      Even dumber was the fact that until 2014, Russia, according to the same guarantor, provided Ukraine (pro-Bendery) gratuitous assistance for at least 250 billion greenbacks. Without this help, the Ukrainian anti-Soviet would not have been able to stay in power, and the left would have come to power instead. And for the Kremlin, this was the worst of all. The same applies to other former Soviet republics.
    3. Alexey Lan Online Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 15 November 2022 23: 16
      And I think that our president did the right thing strategically, although this path was thorny. Yanukovych would not have been re-elected in 2015 anyway, and we would have received Ukraine in NATO and the NATO base in Sevastopol. And so, as a result of the Maidan, "Crimea is ours."
  3. borisvt Offline borisvt
    borisvt (boris) 15 November 2022 15: 11
    Would be, would be
    With all due respect and solidarity with the author, I believe that we do not know everything. For example, right in the process of seizing the now fallow Crimea, I heard from informed people that the GDP had to threaten the Americans with nuclear weapons in order for them to come to terms with the fact. In addition, judging by the information from a person who comes from near Khmelnitsky and regularly visits there, I know that the agricultural land in those parts in the XNUMXs was again sold to the Americans, directly or indirectly, and I would have to deal with who knows what, but I think that resistance to ours there would not have been provided by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    Finally, why not allow the idea that the GDP did not begin to threaten the whole of Ukraine then, fairly assessing the scale of the problems that had piled up from all sides, limiting itself to igniting the Donbass, excluding the possibility of joining NATO and taking the titmouse in the form of the Crimean peninsula . Well, that's right, first you need to master it, and only after "don't worry, we'll strangle everyone" (almost verbatim quote))
  4. rotkiv04 Online rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 15 November 2022 15: 31
    my opinion of the couch iksperd has not changed then and now, Putin does not need the outskirts, not now, much less in 2014, and the Donbass was needed exclusively as an exchange for Crimea, but his Western partners did not agree to these exchanges and forced him to start the NWO, even when he started the NWO, the goal was not to capture the outskirts, but to put his man (most likely Medvedchuk) in Kyiv, hence all the impotence in conducting the NWO
    R. With. I will add, if Putin took Vegetable by the scruff of the neck and kicked him back to Kyiv, he would have to part with the Crimea, and he clearly did not want this.
    This is how all sorts of HPPs brought the genius of geopolitical chess to a zugunder, but the people pay as usual, and not fellow oligarchs
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 17 November 2022 21: 37
      rot... and why don't you consider the potential of the Crimeans themselves at all? With your conclusions, Crimea could generally declare its territory as an independent state of Crimea and generally not join anyone. What side would Russia be then? And Ukraine would agree to a territory with a status neither yours nor ours, we ourselves with a mustache! And would America agree with such a status of Crimea since NATO bases were already planned there? So it was not so easy back then.
  5. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 15 November 2022 16: 48
    It could, it couldn’t, but in the end the answer is still the same: negative selection.

    You can look at the LDNR: the Russian Spring was frightened and merged, the figures were purged and dispersed, Corruption and poverty, oligarchs from Moscow, EDRO and officials are in power - even humanitarian aid is taken away ... (the leader of the LNR, accused of this, calmly left for Russia, allegedly lives happily ever after)
  6. lance Offline lance
    lance 15 November 2022 16: 55
    why stir up the old? as M. Gorky said: you won’t go far in the carriage of the past. but now we need to think about how, where and in what direction should be directed svo. Ukrofascism will stop at nothing - he does not care about his own and about the Russian-minded population. taking into account all the engineering structures on the rivers and the presence of industrial zones, it should be directed from the northeast to the south to the sea. then dams and water barriers will not stop.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 15 November 2022 17: 19
      why stir up the old?

      How not to stir it up if the government that committed this betrayal of Russia's interests remains in place and continues to commit new ones.
      History helps to understand the present and find the way to the future. The one that we need, not our enemies
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 17 November 2022 21: 40
        Alexey, what do you see the interests of Russia that betrayed? Well, just in case - you generally what side to Russia?
  7. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
    soloist2424 (Oleg) 15 November 2022 18: 01
    In the article, I see an analysis of the chess position for one move, namely, how Russia can immediately take Ukraine. Meanwhile, the farther, the more clearly something else is seen: the winner in this game will take at least Ukraine and Europe, and possibly the American inheritance. So far, I don’t see any reason for the Russians to tear their hair out - this is a long game, for attrition, and I don’t see any reasons to take hostile Ukraine in winter (and it’s 70% like that now). Let the West feed the semblance of a state it has created, because it has a lot of gas, electricity, and coal. Let's see in the spring.
    1. Anatoly-68 Offline Anatoly-68
      Anatoly-68 (Anatoly) 15 November 2022 21: 10
      I agree with you - I sometimes have the feeling that the GDP is deliberately delaying the NWO in order to disperse the crisis in the West. That's right - this is a long game
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 17 November 2022 21: 45
      solict, my friend, what are you really talking about? Ishshsh, like a hungry winter, crests across the throat.
  8. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
    Vox_Populi (vox populi) 15 November 2022 18: 19
    A very reasonable, balanced article based on elementary analysis (which many authors and commentators lack) !!!
  9. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 15 November 2022 20: 37
    respected Sergiy does not take into account the factor of ukronazism, which was saturated with the entire Ukrainian society in 2014, it would have to be reformatted, this requires money and, most importantly, people, and there are none, Russia simply could not take on this burden, and now look that the first 2022 is ours the victories ended up in a complete confrontation with very numerous ukrofascists and not only with the military, but most importantly with women and teenagers with a stupid senseless crowd, yes they are blind and she herself did not understand what she was doing, but it was already a force ready to repaint everything in blue and yellow from stops before the fences in 2014, and not a bunch of hired renegades as in Belarus and Kazakhstan, Kherson had to be left ... the FSB will not be able to reformat such a large city on its own until we try smaller Melitopol, Berdyansk. bayonets are a great thing = the problem is that you can’t sit on them, the victoriously adopted new territories will have to be reformatted for a long time and tediously to beat all the nonsense out of stupid heads, this takes time and people, ... now another decision has been made to immediately bring Ukraine into chaos, darkness, hunger and unemployment, and this will bring them to an adequate state, then their arrogance will decrease and they will remember the USSR, when everyone was full or just leave for the coveted Europe, good riddance ... the inhabitants of Ukraine, under the influence of their media, did not want to either in 2014 or in 2022 remember that they are Russians, they would be accepted as brothers full and happy, now let them return in coffins with carcasses or let them starve and return from hunger and cold
  10. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 15 November 2022 20: 52
    Apparently, it turned out, like Taras Bulba. He was told from across the ocean - we gave birth to you, we will kill you. After all, it is known where Yeltsin telegraphed after the gatherings of the three leaders - the deed is done. That's where the head that commands these bodies is. China with these heads does not want to sit on the same field, even ten hectares. And the trip to Ukraine reminds me how the fox wanted to tear off the eggs from the ram. The ram butted the fox and it rolled down. I came to my senses and said - they didn’t come off and it’s not necessary, I didn’t really want to. That didn't come off...
    1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 15 November 2022 21: 05
      Quote: zenion
      did not come off and do not need to, did not really want to. That didn't come off...

      well, now you’ll have to finish yours, just for a long time, otherwise nuclear missiles or nuclear funnels will appear there
    2. rotkiv04 Online rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 17 November 2022 13: 24
      Quote: zenion
      Apparently, it turned out, like Taras Bulba. He was told from across the ocean - we gave birth to you, we will kill you. After all, it is known where Yeltsin telegraphed after the gatherings of the three leaders - the deed is done. That's where the head that commands these bodies is. China with these heads does not want to sit on the same field, even ten hectares. And the trip to Ukraine reminds me how the fox wanted to tear off the eggs from the ram. The ram butted the fox and it rolled down. I came to my senses and said - they didn’t come off and it’s not necessary, I didn’t really want to. That didn't come off...

      the question is so that the fox can now tear off his head, so just getting up and brushing himself off will not work, it used to be that the fox thought that he was the most cunning, and now they have already figured him out
  11. sacha1960 Offline sacha1960
    sacha1960 (Sasha Anton) 15 November 2022 21: 13
    The author is always whining and running away from serious problems and their possible solutions here and now, (Ukraine November 2022), always looking for excuses in another time, (2014), or to blame elsewhere, (Belarus, China, France, Europe, USA and etc.)
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 17 November 2022 22: 20
      Sacha, you are right! I just want to know if the author has the right to rate comments or is it forbidden?
  12. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
    Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 16 November 2022 01: 55
    Everything is so, but here it is worth mentioning Yanukovych's position - he, like many before him, tried to sit on two chairs, was unpopular, indecisive to the point of snot, and in general there was a feeling that he was a "decommissioned figure" - so it is doubtful that he became would he even write a request for the entry of an "airborne regiment" ... and since Putin then (and still) cared about what the West would think and insisted in 2014 on "peace negotiations with the opposition", this entry option at the request was unrealistic (and Minsk and Nursultan were later - I gained determination, the scale was smaller, and there was nowhere to retreat).
    So there were two real options - to take Donbass South and Odessa together with Crimea for the same reasons about referendums, or go right after the order of the "bloody pastor" to bomb, after May 2 in Odessa or any of these events by the decision of these moral degenerates Yatsenyuk -parubiy-pastor. Come in with an honest wording "to prevent genocide." Even the same Erdogan would have done the same.
    And then to make a "showcase" there for the rest of the country - albeit not like in Chechnya, but still.
    But in the end, even within the Donbass, this did not happen, and even under a foreign flag, decisiveness was not enough (and some volunteers and supplies were put on the wanted list, goods were confiscated along the "north wind", and leaders began to be ordered - and there is no need to talk about the SBU. Cases opened in the FSB).
    And if the "authorities" always knew that the same Yatsenyuk openly fought for the Wahhabis - "shaitans" in Chechnya, why was he allowed to live in peace (and live in general), and even become a politician ..??
    So betrayal, tyranny and selfish interests are the drivers of the process then and now. The result is obvious.
    1. Igor Offline Igor
      Igor (Vladimirovich) 17 November 2022 21: 55
      Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir), well, let's just not rivet these myths and fairy tales about Yanukovych and his unpopularity during Maidan 2.

      Kyiv. February 3rd. INTERFAX.RU - In the event of presidential elections in Ukraine, the incumbent President Viktor Yanukovych and the leader of the UDAR party Vitali Klitschko will gain the largest number of votes.

      So there was a decent piece of Ukrainians for Yanyk, and if he didn’t chew snot, then everything could be defended for him. But the uncle clearly thought that she would eat a fish and ...
      1. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
        soloist2424 (Oleg) 25 November 2022 20: 05
        So for Yanyk there was a decent piece of Ukrainians, and if he hadn’t chewed snot, then everything could have been defended by him.

        And I thought so until the events in Belarus happened. Batka is not Yanukovych, and Belarus is not Ukraine (there is no right sector in Belarus), but even there Lukashenka had to take a machine gun in his hands and it is not known what happened if it were not for Russian help.
        Although I admit that Yanukovych is a coward and a scoundrel.
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 17 November 2022 22: 15
      Vladimir, you seem to have described everything correctly, but where is Yanukovych's armed struggle with the pro-Western opposition? What prevented you from crushing the Maidan on your own? Nothing! If we entered then we would become occupiers. Putin is a POLITICIAN and not a populist projector and has already proved this more than once. Therefore, the entire population of Russia chooses it every time and will always choose it! Whether someone likes it or not.
      1. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
        Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 21 November 2022 01: 48
        But after all, for everyone we have become occupiers - but only one Crimea instead of the entire South-East.
        And Donbass was abandoned, if you call a spade a spade. Therefore, for many, we have become not occupiers, but traitors, many have lost hope. This, together with the brainwashing of the last 8 years, gave that volume of dill mobilized on the side.
        And in any case, the losers are judged.
        The MH17 case is a prime example of this. What then, after the Crimea, and, moreover, now, what difference does it make to someone other than their own ..?
        Populism is often politics. VVP and its team of irreplaceables are just populists, because where are the results of projects on May decrees, import substitution, "to be in the top five in terms of GDP", "the share of modern weapons in the troops is 80%", armats (at least a couple of pieces), etc .. ? Someone was responsible for the "strange" implementation of the SVO, the surrender of cities, the lack of winter clothes in warehouses (after all, even the Soviet reserves were sold out - and there are more than 300 thousand drugs) ..?
        Rhetorical questions.
  13. Watching Offline Watching
    Watching (Alex) 16 November 2022 12: 04
    Quote: Alexey Lan
    Do we have real democratic elections? Personally, I doubt it.

    What exactly? What exactly do you doubt?
  14. Igor Offline Igor
    Igor (Vladimirovich) 16 November 2022 21: 52
    all this is true and correctly written in the article. The only thing to add is that the attitude of at least half of the population of Ukraine in 2014 was very favorable towards the Russian Federation, unlike the current one. I realize the fallacy of my previous opinion that in 2014 Russia did not have to get involved, since it was not ready, etc..
  15. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 17 November 2022 10: 28
    Everything could have gone differently if the planning of the operation had not been based on false analyzes of intelligence, accustomed over the years to writing for the leadership only what they might like. When cadres sit in their places for 20 years, nothing else can be expected. Irresponsibility breeds lies, and that - terrible mistakes.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 17 November 2022 21: 55
      kri... What intelligence? The network was such that no intelligence could ever dream of. Everyone knew and analyzed everything - when to start in order to ... eradicate once and for all! And now this moment has come. Ukrofascists must be destroyed once and for all. What is not clear?
      1. guest Offline guest
        guest 17 November 2022 22: 22
        Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
        Ukrofascists must be destroyed once and for all.

        I completely agree with this.
  16. guest Offline guest
    guest 17 November 2022 22: 33
    2014-2022: Could something have gone differently in Ukraine?

    What a stupid question, of course it could, but history does not know the subjunctive mood.
  17. depavel Offline depavel
    depavel (Pavel Pavlovich) 18 November 2022 17: 40
    Remind? Thirty years ago, 1500 Tsrushniks came in, changed internal politics, who did what, where to find out?
    There were topics, there was Putin in the topics, how to call the US clearly however. A lot of muddy, for example, Nabiullina, for me, bank savagery, disarmament, shutdown of production, and so on and so forth.
  18. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 24 November 2022 11: 08
    the author distorts, in 2014 the weapons in Ukraine were 8 years younger, which means there were more of them ... sanctions? why does the author think that they would not have been announced? they would definitely have been announced, no one has canceled them at all since 1917, and how without swift? and most importantly, the author does not understand Ukrainian specifics, does he cling to 2014, but does not want to remember 2003? and the main thing to remember is 1991, 1921, 1941, it wasn’t just a bunch of liberals hired by the Americans like in the swamp in Minsk and Astana, the Nazis in Ukraine were hammered into exclusivity and national arrogance since 1921 .... an infantry regiment would not have done in 2014, ... not only that, the emotional outburst of the stupid, senseless crowd on the Maidan and in general in Ukraine in 2014 was greater than in 2022, it was the peak of a specially artificially prepared mass psychosis, remember how they jumped all over the country, how they wanted lace panties, how they collected "zahidnikam" in the Donbass....and how many of our guys would die? "if you sit on the banks of the Dnieper for a very long time, you can wait until the corpse of your enemy floats on it", this Chinese stratagem is wise, they decided to take Crimea and make it impossible for them to join NATO, build their own payment systems, build northern streams, and give Ukrainian psychosis cool down .... we thought they would cool down in 8 years, they didn’t cool down .... so we continue to prove that they will not receive lace panties, but will sit without electricity ..... you need to squeeze arrogance and pride out of Ukrofascists for a long time and stubbornly ... "Do not enter into disputes and debates because if a dominant has developed, it cannot be overcome by words and convictions - it will only feed on and be reinforced by them. This is because the dominant always justifies itself, and logic is its servant," wrote A.A. Ukhtomsky. ........ so we need to take care of our soldiers and let the ukrofascists boil in their own anger and die or a tablecloth drog to coveted Europe