The Left Bank may become "compensation" for the loss of Kherson by Russia


One of the most negative consequences of the decision to leave the Russian city of Kherson without a fight to the enemy is the increased risk of losing more and more territories in the four constituent entities of the Russian Federation that became part of our country after September 30, 2022. The situation has deteriorated greatly compared to what it was before the withdrawal of the RF Armed Forces from the Right Bank. What might be our response?


Counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine


It is with great regret that we have to admit that the enemy achieved a great military and image victory, forcing the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces to withdraw troops from the Right Bank of the Dnieper to the lower Left. After our “regroupings” in the Kharkiv region and Kherson, the Ukrainian army is now at the peak of its moral and psychological upsurge and is eager to advance further. Plus, it should be taken into account that numerous foreign mercenaries and thugs with extensive experience are actively participating in the hostilities against us. The direction for the next APU strike is easy to predict.

Only a couple of brigades will be enough for the enemy to hold occupied Kherson. Long-range cannon and rocket artillery will be installed on the high Right Bank, which will hit the highways connecting the Crimea with Greater Russia, taking our land transport corridor under fire control. A successful attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the Zaporozhye direction on Melitopol and Berdyansk can completely break it and force the RF Armed Forces to make another "regrouping". Unfortunately, after the surrender of Kherson, the enemy's shock fist will grow into eight full-blooded brigades, which he will be able to transfer to the Left Bank.

The Dnieper, which the RF Ministry of Defense counted on as a natural water border with Ukraine, alas, will not be such. The Kyiv regime began to create the Dnieper flotilla in the summer. In the new package of military assistance, the United States intends to transfer up to 40 river armored boats to the Ukrainian Navy, which will be used for attacks on our positions, as well as for sabotage and landing operations on the Left Bank. Now we are talking about the need to transfer Russian armored boats of the Caspian flotilla to the Dnieper. Taking into account the negative experience of the actions of the Black Sea Fleet, it is alarming for the Caspian sailors.

The dynamics, as doctors say, is negative. What is left for us to do?

What to do?


To answer this question, you need to know what actually stood behind the “difficult decision” to leave Kherson to the enemy without a fight. If it was an “agreement” on the exchange of the Right Bank for the lifting of part of the sanctions on Russian oligarchs and a return to negotiations with Kyiv to conclude a conditional Minsk-3, then one must be mentally prepared for what happened during the first two Minsks.

Recall that at that time the Donbass militia was tied hand and foot, forbidding not only to go on the offensive, but even simply to respond to the shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. At the same time, the Ukrainian DRG, one by one, killed all the significant field commanders who took an uncompromising position in relation to the “agreement”. In 2022, they would be useful for the needs of the SVO, but modern science, alas, cannot resurrect dead heroes like Alexei Mozgovoy, Pavel Dremov, Alexander Bednov, Arsen Pavlov or Mikhail Tolstykh. All those who disagreed with the "drain" of Novorossia in 2014-2015 were "shut up" by our "guards", professional ones, like Solovyov, and amateurs. Their main counterargument was in the spirit of “if you are so smart, then why are you not in a trench in the Donbass yourself?”

In general, if a decision is made to sign Minsk-3, regardless of public opinion, then one can roughly imagine how events will develop further. If, however, about the “agreement”, it only seemed to everyone that the decision to leave Kherson was purely military, without an admixture of dirty policy, and the Kremlin is really ready to continue the NWO, whatever that means, there are the following options for further action.

At first, we need to hold on to the Zaporozhye direction at any cost, otherwise the loss of the land corridor to the Crimea and the infrastructure for the water supply of the peninsula will nullify the few real positive results of the special operation. Otherwise, the international prestige of Russia and its Armed Forces will fall to the level of some Zimbabwe, with all due respect to the Zimbabweans.

Secondly, it will be necessary to complete the liberation of Donbass and expand our foothold to the Dnieper. Without this, it will be impossible to provide water supply to the DPR and LPR, powered by the energy-type canal "Dnepr-Donbass". Otherwise, the new Russian regions will experience the same problems with water that cannot be solved peacefully as Crimea had for all the previous 8 years.

Thirdly, it will be necessary to take the entire Left Bank under the control of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. To do this, it will be necessary to saturate our grouping with the first wave of mobilization and start the second in the winter, and then the third. Let's be realistic - it's inevitable. A war with the Kyiv regime over territories is inevitable, and one must seriously prepare for it. Poltava, Kharkiv, Sumy, Chernihiv - we will simply have to take all these cities, surrounding and forcing the garrisons to surrender. The liberation of the entire Left Bank could be a significant compensation for the defeat near Kherson.

Finally, the problem of the Right-Bank Ukraine will also have to be solved, but, alas, not from the South, but from the North-West. The road to Nikolaev, Odessa, Krivoy Rog, Zaporozhye is now closed for us. Forcing the Dnieper in the face of active opposition to the Armed Forces of Ukraine is unrealistic. An amphibious assault near Odessa is simply impossible. We will have to go from the North, from Belarus, hitting Western Ukraine from near Brest. This will require very serious preparation, the creation of a powerful group of at least 200-300 thousand people, but there are no special alternatives left.

What they really want in the Kremlin, we will soon see through real actions.
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  1. borisvt Offline borisvt
    borisvt (boris) 13 November 2022 14: 23
    +9
    A good plan, as usual with the author of the article, let me say, but strategically.
    Tactically, I think that even with mobilizations during the winter, the left bank cannot be taken away without crashing the electricity and heat supply of Kyiv and the Kyiv region in the first place. Let the junta take care of the evacuation of the population, the staffers - the supply of generators and blankets, and the air conditioners are worried about what's-my-in-the-rear. That's when, you look and manage by the spring with the left bank in any case
    1. Sydor Kovpak Offline Sydor Kovpak
      Sydor Kovpak 13 November 2022 16: 32
      +7
      Until supplies from the west are cut off. It will take more than one winter
    2. Romanovski Offline Romanovski
      Romanovski (Roman) 14 November 2022 09: 50
      0
      Taking the entire left bank head-on will not save the situation in the long term, since in a couple of years an even more bloody war is inevitable .... We must finally wake up and declare a universal one in Russia so that with a SIMULTANEOUS strike from the north (Belarus), from the south (Odessa ) - completely cut off Ukroreich from supplies from the West ...
      1. assault 2019 Offline assault 2019
        assault 2019 (assault 2019) 14 November 2022 16: 33
        0
        cut off Ukroreich from supplies from the West ...

        No additional mobilization is needed to cut off Western Ukraine from Central Ukraine.
        It is necessary that for several months (3-4) one air division works daily on the transport and energy infrastructure of Western Ukraine:
        Polk - Tu-22M3;
        Polk-Su-34
        Regiment - Su-30CM

        If you start from December, then by April of the next 23rd year, you can take almost all the left-bank Ukraine and most of the Central (Russian) Ukraine almost without bloodshed.
        1. Nelton Online Nelton
          Nelton (Oleg) 14 November 2022 17: 22
          +5
          Quote: assault 2019
          Polk-Su-34

          According to various sources, even having abandoned a deep entry into the air defense zone of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Russian Aerospace Forces continue to suffer losses.
          If you fly to bomb Lviv, a Su-34 regiment will last a day for 3 sorties.

          How to suppress air defense, which is 99% of the time in a passive mode with the receipt of data from the NATO infrastructure - it was necessary to think before 02/24.
          We preferred the planning option "we throw hats - they will scatter themselves."
          1. assault 2019 Offline assault 2019
            assault 2019 (assault 2019) 25 November 2022 13: 04
            0
            You need to work with planning bombs without entering the air defense zone!
        2. Alexfly Offline Alexfly
          Alexfly (Alexander) 15 November 2022 19: 33
          0
          Air defense in Ukraine is under restoration, NATO and others like them will be thrown more ... It is unlikely that the modern government will be able to do something. Nobody canceled the oligarchy and fed politics
      2. zenion Offline zenion
        zenion (zinovy) 14 November 2022 16: 37
        0
        Suppose that for the people who have everything and for those who are in the trenches, this is good. Who else is it good for? Who else benefits from it?
    3. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 14 November 2022 12: 18
      0
      This is correct, here we need a comprehensive approach, the continuation of the methodical destruction of the fuel and energy, industrial, transport infrastructure of the enemy,
      enterprises of the defense industry of Ukraine, its military warehouses and fuel storage facilities should be regular, we urgently need to increase the capabilities of our military-industrial complex enterprises, and most importantly, we need to start transferring our country to a war footing, it is impossible to win this war without mobilizing all our forces and means for this, to act in half a force, not noticing that there is a full-fledged war for further existence, it will no longer work, we will all have to defend our Russia with weapons in our hands, for our victory over the ukroreich, it is necessary to gradually mobilize, equip and train an additional 1,5 - 2 million people.
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 13 November 2022 14: 42
    +5
    As usual.
    Explanation, wishes and need, need, need ...

    Like in the old story of Zhvanetsky ... Maybe something should be changed at the conservatory? But alas, it won't work...
  3. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 13 November 2022 14: 56
    +13
    Forget about the offensive from Belarus. No one will help the country and the army, which is losing its positions without a fight. Old Man will become an ally if he sees a real victory for Russia. In addition, I can say that the same applies to all of Russia's closest neighbors. One more such surrender, and Russia will remain surrounded by enemy states. While they silently watch. With a negative development of events, they will side with the West without any hesitation. And there will be no more "two chairs".

    Both in the military and in the political sense, the surrender of the Kherson bridgehead is the strongest defeat of the Russian army. The 30-strong grouping was unable to hold the strategic foothold. There is no need to tell fairy tales about supply problems. Where is the military transport aviation, where is the logistic support of the troops? The Red Army held bridgeheads for six months in much worse conditions. The Germans supplied the encircled troops near Demyansk and Stalingrad for several months.

    The Armed Forces of Ukraine will leave several brigades of the defense on the Dnieper and all (ALL) of the released troops will be transferred to the Zaporozhye direction. Russia will not have such an opportunity. It will be necessary to keep all the evacuated troops to protect the Crimea.
    The situation in the south has changed dramatically.
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 13 November 2022 15: 18
      +5
      the fact that the next strike will be on Melitopol and Berdyansk can be guaranteed by 150%, but this will be a surprise for Gerasimov and his General Staff
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 13 November 2022 15: 26
        0
        And how can Melitopol and Berdyansk be protected?
        1. Bakht Offline Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 13 November 2022 15: 33
          +2
          If the Armed Forces of Ukraine get to Fedorovka, then Melitopol may not be taken. The entire left bank will have to be cleared. Up to the Crimea.


          You can no longer retreat. Nowhere.
      2. Vlad Burchilo Offline Vlad Burchilo
        Vlad Burchilo (Vlad) 13 November 2022 19: 15
        +1
        I think that the General Staff should think something
        1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
          aslanxnumx (Aslan) 14 November 2022 09: 44
          +4
          They have one line of brains from the cap left. No matter how this line brought it to Moscow.
          1. zenion Offline zenion
            zenion (zinovy) 14 November 2022 16: 39
            +4
            There will be nothing so terrible for Moscow, they live on another planet. The Kremlin is another planet.
    2. gene1 Offline gene1
      gene1 (Gennady) 13 November 2022 16: 43
      +1
      Quote: Bakht
      The Armed Forces of Ukraine will leave several brigades of the defense on the Dnieper and all (ALL) of the released troops will be transferred to the Zaporozhye direction. Russia will not have such an opportunity. It will be necessary to keep all the evacuated troops to protect the Crimea.

      There is no logic. If crests

      all (ALL) released troops will be transferred to the Zaporozhye direction

      how will they attack the Crimea? And the fact that we will clash near Zaporozhye is for sure.
      1. assault 2019 Offline assault 2019
        assault 2019 (assault 2019) 14 November 2022 16: 51
        +2
        how will they attack the Crimea?

        The Armed Forces of Ukraine will gather all the released forces from the Kherson direction, reinforce them with reserves and mercenaries, and the 80-100 thousandth group will hit Melitopol, in the event of a successful breakthrough of the defense, they will put up several barrage brigades and turn to the Crimea ....
        God forbid that this does not happen!
    3. Watching Offline Watching
      Watching (Alex) 13 November 2022 17: 10
      +4
      It's hard to object. Khokhols are now in the midst of a successful offensive and a close victory, which, apparently, does not shine for the Russian troops. And the point is not only in the obvious superiority of NATO military thought and military training of personnel, but also in the backwardness of the non-nuclear weapons of the AFRF. Nuclear weapons remain the only and last trump card, but this is a suicide weapon. Will the Supreme Commander go for it? If everything continues to develop as it has so far, yes. And then adios muchachos...
    4. Rikochet Offline Rikochet
      Rikochet (Rikochet) 14 November 2022 18: 27
      +2
      So they are already preparing the surrender of New Kakhovka according to the principle of Kherson.
    5. Saharovzhahar Offline Saharovzhahar
      Saharovzhahar (Zakhar Sakharov) 15 November 2022 07: 15
      0
      And how did it end for the Germans? It was lucky to jump out of Demyansky with losses, but not from the Stalingrad cauldron.
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 15 November 2022 07: 57
        0
        This is an example of how you can supply troops for several months. If these examples do not seem suitable to you, then you can familiarize yourself with the example of the defense of the Sandomierz bridgehead. By the way, there are some good videos on YouTube.
        Tiger Slayers


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  5. rish Offline rish
    rish (Rish) 13 November 2022 16: 02
    +2
    80 years have almost passed, they are again talking about the old tactic - to fill up with corpses ... somewhere they wrote about 70% of supporters, such a figure seems only for respondents over 60 years old. In reality, there are not even half, and among the necessary, educated, this support is very bad. Frankly, in the last mobilization, almost everyone had thoughts and conversations about how best to get off, how to mow down. Now, having looked at how they are provided there, let's see how many more will survive. I think the next mobilization will put an end to this NWO, and not in favor of Russia. You can only mobilize a few thousand in a couple of months to make "my hut on the edge" work, but such a speed may not help ...
    1. Bakht Offline Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 13 November 2022 16: 42
      +2
      In Ukraine, there are even fewer supporters, those who have fallen over the hill are considered millions, but mobilizations help to win.
      1. rish Offline rish
        rish (Rish) 13 November 2022 21: 20
        +2
        Quote: Bakht
        In Ukraine, there are even fewer supporters, those who have fallen over the hill are considered millions, but mobilizations help to win.

        it is not mobilization that helps them, but good weapons, competent command and high morale.
        1. Bakht Offline Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 13 November 2022 23: 16
          +3
          Good weapons, competent command and high morale are, of course, significant values. But I do not think that the weapons are much better than the Russian ones. I also do not think that the command is very different from the Russian one. And high morale does not correspond to a million dodgers in Ukraine
          .
          Russia is not waging a full-scale war. Unfortunately, of course. Does not conduct wartime mobilization. And he plays political games. The main mistake of the Russian leadership is that it hopes for some kind of peace with the West. The sooner the Kremlin understands that the time for negotiations is over and a full-scale war has been declared on Russia, the better.

          What about mobilization? Basically nothing has changed. "War is won by big battalions"
          1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
            aslanxnumx (Aslan) 14 November 2022 09: 50
            +1
            They are defending their homeland, and why they are defending, ask them. And we didn’t have enough people who wanted to fight for Putin. Yes, and when entering a military school for money or signing a contract, pay a bunch of bobbles, that there are few people who want to die. You don’t want to go to heaven ahead of time This is sitting in a bunker, you can call to die for a hit in paradise.
            1. Bakht Offline Bakht
              Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 14 November 2022 10: 24
              +1
              As I understand it, not everyone in Ukraine wants to defend their homeland. Also, as in Russia, few people fight "for Putin." Many are fighting for the idea. And what is the idea, you can ask them.
              Propaganda clichés do not fit the situation well.

              Let's summarize. The technique is about the same, the level of command too. Morale on both sides is present (or absent) equally.

              The reason must be sought in political games and not quite an adequate reaction to the events in the Kremlin. Putin is right that "Russia has not yet begun to fight seriously." He is wrong in that there is no desire to "start seriously" yet.
              In the meantime, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are advancing en masse, despite the losses. So mobilization (or lack of it) plays a decisive role. Moreover, the mobilization of not only personnel, but the entire economy of the country.

              Ukraine has already been defeated and as a state is nothing of itself. No army, no sovereignty, no economy. There is a supply of the West. Economic, military. If the support of the West is removed, the war will end in a few days with the capitulation of Kyiv. When this is understood in the Kremlin, then it will be possible to end the war.
              1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
                aslanxnumx (Aslan) 14 November 2022 12: 54
                +2
                There is no army, and we are retreating because there is no one to fight with.
            2. Bakht Offline Bakht
              Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 14 November 2022 10: 52
              0
              If I don't start a war, there will be no peace



              Also about the ratio of morale and other factors. And from recent history, Stalin's question "How many divisions does the Pope have?" Despite the fact that Stalin was well aware of the importance of morale.
    2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 14 November 2022 12: 35
      -2
      Quote from rish
      80 years have almost passed, they are again talking about the old tactic - to fill up with corpses ... somewhere they wrote about 70% of supporters, such a figure seems only for respondents over 60 years old. In reality, there are not even half, and among the necessary, educated, this support is very bad. Frankly, in the last mobilization, almost everyone had thoughts and conversations about how best to get off, how to mow down. Now, having looked at how they are provided there, let's see how many more will survive. I think the next mobilization will put an end to this NWO, and not in favor of Russia. You can only mobilize a few thousand in a couple of months to make "my hut on the edge" work, but such a speed may not help ...

      Don’t talk ridiculous nonsense, in fact, most of our people are ready to defend their homeland with weapons in their hands, and if you are such a coward, then you don’t need to throw this shit on others, they don’t judge others by themselves !!!
      1. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
        Vox_Populi (vox populi) 14 November 2022 20: 12
        +1
        One thing never ceases to amaze: people with great pathos and pathos who write super-patriotic comments do not go to the NWO, but continue to speak for everyone ... winked
  6. gene1 Offline gene1
    gene1 (Gennady) 13 November 2022 16: 56
    +3
    I disagree with the third point.
    I understand: the brain and soul resists, does not want to understand and accept even the thought of the impossibility in the current situation to take by force the cities you listed without wiping them off the face of the earth.
    What should we do next?:
    1. follow the first two points
    2. completely destroy the energy sector of Ukraine and
    3. wait for chaos in the cities and the demoralization of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (November 2023), and then start
    4. fulfill the third point.
    1. lord-palladore-11045 (Konstantin Puchkov) 13 November 2022 23: 52
      +3
      It is necessary to destroy the railways so that the ukrovoysk does not have the supply of ammunition and reserves, but this is what ours is not allowed to do. Because selfish people from among the liberals are selling on a piece of iron with a geyropa.
  7. Vlad Burchilo Offline Vlad Burchilo
    Vlad Burchilo (Vlad) 13 November 2022 19: 14
    -1
    Putin, we urgently need to mobilize the "sofa army". Then we'll kill everyone.
  8. Vlad Burchilo Offline Vlad Burchilo
    Vlad Burchilo (Vlad) 13 November 2022 19: 31
    0
    "anxious for the Caspian sailors" about well-founded fears ..
    After Admiral Makarov, in the Russian Empire, there was still, his pupil - Essen, and then we don’t have ALL more naval commanders. There are many admirals, but naval commanders ...
    In the Second World War, admirals: Tributs, Oktyabrsky proved to be mediocrity.
    Oktyabrsky admitted in the early 70s that he had deceived Stalin.
    N. G. Kuznetsov also admitted that the Baltic Fleet and the Black Sea Fleet were not up to par.
    Gorshkov was the LAST capable admiral. And then: "parquet admirals"
    1. lord-palladore-11045 (Konstantin Puchkov) 13 November 2022 23: 44
      -1
      This is not entirely true, and Tibuts and Gorshkov were in their places, only their conditions were different. Tributs defended besieged Leningrad. And Gorshkov's hands were more untied - the northern ocean. It wasn't easy for both of them. You really don't know much about history.
  9. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 13 November 2022 19: 59
    +5
    Long-range cannon and rocket artillery will be installed on the high Right Bank, which will hit the highways

    Everything is correct. Russia has no aviation, no reconnaissance, no anti-battery systems. And I forgot, we are at war with all of NATO. Or maybe our government has neither honor nor conscience! That's why there are so many problems.
  10. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
    Grei grin (Gray Grin) 13 November 2022 20: 14
    +5
    The left bank of the Dnieper is a springboard for the further retreat of Russian troops to the Crimea and there is nothing to guess! Disgrace! After that, the last Chukchi will not want to have anything to do with Russia! For the Motherland, it’s a shame for our soldiers, who laid down their lives for the agreements of corrupt traitor politicians!
  11. rish Offline rish
    rish (Rish) 13 November 2022 21: 26
    +2
    Quote: gene1
    I disagree with the third point.
    3. wait for chaos in the cities and the demoralization of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (November 2023), and then start

    We would not have chaos in the cities
    1. gene1 Offline gene1
      gene1 (Gennady) 14 November 2022 08: 30
      -3
      You're right. But, there is a positive moment in this - we have reached the bottom of the agreements.
      I dare say there won't be any more.
  12. silviu Offline silviu
    silviu (Silviu) 13 November 2022 21: 52
    +3
    Firstly, we are losing the bridgehead on the Right Bank, which closes the possibility of a further offensive on Nikolaev, Krivoy Rog and Odessa. Turkish and Western partners can breathe easy, the “grain deal” is no longer in danger.

    Sixthly, Kherson itself is located above sea level from 20 (near the coast of the Dnieper up to 50 meters and the built defense lines on the left bank are 4 meters above sea level. In the event of a breakthrough of the dam of the Kakhovka reservoir (the height of the water surface in the reservoir is 13 meters above sea level) all the water will wash away the left bank along with the defense lines, and the right bank with the city of Kherson will remain dry because the water from the reservoir is from 7 meters above the river bank up to 37 meters higher! The Armed Forces of Ukraine now have all the cards in their hands and they will finish off the Novokakhovskaya dam and the left bank will go under water. To the Crimea!
  13. Denis Z Offline Denis Z
    Denis Z (Denis Z) 13 November 2022 23: 34
    +2
    If I start criticizing Marzhetsky now, they will put me in the emergency again. Therefore, I will simply write: nonsense, nonsense, nonsense ... The deal (agreement) is so obvious that no matter how much you deceive yourself, the result will not change. For some reason, in some industries, sanctions were lifted from us, for example, on the trade in metals. Again, they finally allowed us to supply fertilizers and grain for free. Free!)))) and, oh Gods, we once again finally and irrevocably once again captured Majorsk, experimental, pavlovka, marinka, 2 earthen trenches near Donetsk and a couple of dilapidated houses. Of course, large settlements are unlikely to be released to us, but some other pavlovka or belohorovka will definitely be handed over.
  14. lord-palladore-11045 (Konstantin Puchkov) 13 November 2022 23: 36
    +2
    "Maybe" is not relevant. We need, first of all, officers and generals whom I want to believe, but I don’t see such people.
  15. Aleks33 Offline Aleks33
    Aleks33 (Alex33) 14 November 2022 06: 03
    +3
    Shame on Russia!!! Have nuclear weapons and retreat ... Political impotents and not leadership. But it was impossible to warn that if the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station was blown up, then TNW would fly in response. Russia lacks the style of the nineties to crap NATO. Otherwise, Russia will crap more than once.
    1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 14 November 2022 12: 51
      +1
      You remembered it in vain about the style of the nineties, in the 90s Russia lost everything it had, the petty tyrant Eltsin and his gang of liberals did their best, only privatization according to Chubais is worth something.
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  17. Muscool Offline Muscool
    Muscool (Glory) 14 November 2022 12: 45
    +3
    Let them go with their mobilization. While a cheerful drug addict in Kyiv is running alive and well, while crests are calmly driving reserves with ammunition and personnel to their lines in echelons (and at this moment our men, washing themselves with blood, are storming the fortified areas in front), until those responsible for the frankly senile plan of invading Khokhlostan will not punished until they remove the guilty official from one place and put them in another, until they begin to equip the mobilized with everything necessary for the war and life in the trench, and not with what is written in the charter 50 years ago, nor where I, under the command of these impudent ghouls, I'll go. Although at the beginning of the mobilization he was ready, and went to the military enlistment office, with a summons that was stuck on the door.
    Fortunately, when I went to the personnel department at work, to notify that they were calling me, they gave me a piece of paper that our plant was part of the military-industrial complex and the military commissar did not pick me up.
    Having seen enough of this not funny circus and having gone to a friend (mobilized) to the hospital, I listened to his story, how he "fought" for 2 whole days (October 4-6 in the direction of matchmaking) and was wounded. Nah, guys, I didn’t find myself in a garbage dump.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 15 November 2022 00: 41
      -2
      Maskol, from your words it turns out that our President Putin is responsible for the senile invasion of Khokhlostan (you call your Ukraine Khokhlostan?)? Or maybe only a senile, having received a hanging, will say that he will not go to fight for the Motherland? Try. To be disrespectful to others.
  18. nikanikolich Offline nikanikolich
    nikanikolich (nikola) 14 November 2022 12: 51
    +2
    You can’t fight without shedding blood, this doesn’t happen a priori. What Kherson surrendered, under Stalin, the entire General Staff would have stood at the wall. True, during the surrender of Kyiv, he spared the "dancing Ukrainian" Khrushchev - but in vain.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 15 November 2022 00: 49
      -1
      nikanikolich, and you wanted not thirty thousand Russian soldiers to go to the left bank, but thirty thousand funerals to Russia? For such * heroism * anyone involved in this would definitely be put up against the wall. It's in you in Ukraine - to the last Ukrainian, in Russia everything is completely different. We protect our soldiers. Territories can be returned, buildings and cities can be rebuilt, dead soldiers cannot be resurrected! So think with your head when you write.
  19. Atmospheric QUEEN (Atmospheric QUEEN) 14 November 2022 13: 29
    0
    Without ceasing it is necessary to hit the energy sector, factories, airfields, communication centers, railways. And our General Staff stubbornly protects the last. For whom ? To your own death?
  20. Vasya 225 Online Vasya 225
    Vasya 225 (Vyacheslav) 14 November 2022 14: 30
    +1
    The country is rotten. The solution of military issues is unrealistic without the removal of this rot. Without this, actions will always have the wrong priorities.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 15 November 2022 00: 51
      -1
      Vasya, are you writing about your rotten Ukraine? Yes, it has rotted, and that's where it belongs.
      1. Vasya 225 Online Vasya 225
        Vasya 225 (Vyacheslav) 15 November 2022 10: 40
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        No, Olezhek, I am writing about Abramovich and Peskov.
  21. Olga Taschilina Offline Olga Taschilina
    Olga Taschilina (Olga Taschilina) 14 November 2022 16: 36
    +1
    I do not want to believe that the surrender of Kherson is an agreement. I'm pretty sure it's not a deal. As well as I believe that Russia will win in the end. I believe! I invite others to join my faith.
    Russia is getting rid of mistakes and illusions, at least such "to fight with a small, well-trained and equipped army of contract soldiers." It was the NWO that showed all the stupidity of such army formations. Perhaps somewhere this will work, but not with such territories and not with such powerful opponents as Russia has. The army must have a larger number and its staffing should be entrusted to the state, and not to random private individuals who have raised prices for everything army to the sky. The care of the army and soldiers is completely entrusted to the state and everything related to this concern is taken from private individuals (shoes, clothes, socks, underwear, tents, heating tents and dugouts, soldier rations and first-aid kits. This should be the concern of the state, and not random stakeholders.
  22. RFR Offline RFR
    RFR (RFR) 14 November 2022 19: 42
    -1
    You give more gas transit through the ukrobanderosvinary ... Millions of dollars go every day to pay for the supply of weapons from the West and the killings of our military .... And even more grain deals and surrenders of Russian territory ... The talent of our guarantor knows no bounds ...
  23. sacha1960 Offline sacha1960
    sacha1960 (Sasha Anton) 14 November 2022 21: 59
    0
    The author always does the same, first describing a (really) very difficult situation at the front, and then offering easy solutions, illusions and good wishes, always giving new opportunities to those who do not deserve them.

    In other words, avoid the most serious and obvious: the problem is not the heroic Russian soldiers and Republicans, the problem is that the Russian leadership is so blatantly incompetent and cowardly that only another Emergency Government can change the disastrous future of the war.

    Because no matter how powerful a weapon you have, if you do not dare to use it (inside Ukraine), you will hopelessly lose the war with NATO.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 15 November 2022 00: 59
      -1
      Vassha, after the surrender of Ukraine from a nuclear strike, you won’t go to live in Ukraine, right? And radiation from Ukraine will not reach you, right? You live on the moon, right? Well, the fact that Ukraine is our land and they don’t shit on their own land, you don’t know, right? Do you see the catastrophic future of the war for Ukraine in the flagrant incompetence of the Russian leadership? Do you really believe this nonsense?
  24. lemeshkin Offline lemeshkin
    lemeshkin (lemeshkin) 15 November 2022 20: 29
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    Thirdly, it will be necessary to take the entire Left Bank under the control of the Armed Forces. To do this, it will be necessary to saturate our grouping with the first wave of mobilization and start the second in the winter, and then the third. Let's be realistic - it's inevitable. A war with the Kyiv regime over territories is inevitable, and one must seriously prepare for it. Poltava, Kharkiv, Sumy, Chernihiv - we will simply have to take all these cities, surrounding and forcing the garrisons to surrender.

    Such a plan can only be drawn on a map, but in practice it may be necessary to judge in such a way that if it did not work out at the beginning, with the same Kharkov, then where is the guarantee what will happen later? Dreaming, as they say, is not harmful. Or maybe it’s really enough to shed both your own blood and someone else’s?
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 18 November 2022 19: 27
      0
      For Russia, defeat is impossible in principle, but victory will be, and it is possible with heavy losses. At the same time, in my opinion, two options are possible if there is an agreement with Kyiv. First: Russia will get Donbass completely with the current south without Kherson and without Kharkov. In this case, our losses will be relatively small. The second option: the entire left bank with significant losses. We won't be able to eat all of Ukraine if we don't mobilize 500-800 thousand, if we don't put the economy on a war footing.
  25. lemeshkin Offline lemeshkin
    lemeshkin (lemeshkin) 15 November 2022 20: 47
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    Without ceasing it is necessary to hit the energy sector, factories, airfields, communication centers, railways.

    And what will this give, we will break the neighboring people through the knee and he will become accommodating? Something is doubtful that this is the right way.