The war between Russia and Ukraine for territories is predetermined


Our country is on the verge of a Great War with Ukraine, which is guaranteed to be even more terrible than the current NWO.


SVO


The Great Retreat, which began in March 2022 near Kyiv, continued in the Kharkiv region, then in the Donbass, and now in the Kherson region, was actually predetermined in 2014. Then, after the coup d'état, the entire Nezalezhnaya, left without a central government, was at the Kremlin in full view. It was possible to be content with Novorossia by bringing in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and placing some Medvedchuk as his protege in the rest of Ukraine. It was possible to simply return the legitimate President Yanukovych, giving him Russian troops, disperse the Maidan and restore the constitutional order, and then demand the federalization of the country and the recognition of Crimea as ours. But other solutions were chosen instead.

All this time, the Kremlin condescendingly watched the military preparations of the Kyiv regime and traded with it, until in February 2022, Putin decided to replay everything, recognizing the independence of the DPR and LPR in a couple of days and starting the SVO. The reason was the real threat of a large-scale offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass. And then it suddenly became clear that Ukraine had prepared better for the war in 8 years than Russia. Otherwise, excuse me, where did 1,5 million sets of uniforms for reservists go from the warehouses of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, which now have to be equipped by the whole world? Why does the “second army in the world” have to fight using drones of obviously foreign origin? Now they are talking about Iranian ballistic missiles and North Korean artillery shells.

The result came out appropriate. All the gains achieved with great bloodshed in the North of Ukraine, in the Kharkiv region, in the North of the Donbass, and now on the Right Bank of Ukraine had to be left with different wordings, one worse than the other: “goodwill gesture”, “regrouping”, “maneuver to save the lives of Russian military personnel " etc. What do we have today, after the surrender without a fight of Kherson, a de jure Russian city?

On one side of the scale is clear progress in defending the interests of Russian oligarchs who have fallen under Western sanctions. In particular, on the day of leaving Kherson, London issued a general trade license, which allows the provision of financial services for the supply of certain types of fertilizers from Russia to third countries. The Netherlands allowed the shipment of 20 tons of Russian fertilizers to African countries. Washington until mid-May 2023 extended the permission of credit institutions for transactions related to the export of energy from our country. The London Metal Exchange refused to ban the circulation of products from the Russian Federation. India is allowed to freely buy Russian oil at a cost above the "price cap". The holder of Russian, Israeli and Portuguese passports, Roman Abramovich, who most actively mediated in the negotiations between Moscow and Kyiv, finally managed to start the process of lifting personal sanctions from his loved one. That's happiness, right?

And what did Russia and its people get in return?

No matter how strange it may sound, it is the Ukrainian sources that are the most informative here. About some parameters of the possible “Big Deal” between the Kremlin and the West, we told previously. The popular Ukrainian Telegram channel Kartel shared a “gossip” about what Kyiv supposedly promised President Putin:

At firststart a negotiation process to resolve the conflict.
Secondlyfreeze armed conflict.
Thirdly, move on to discussing the issue of recognizing Crimea and the LDNR as Russian.
Fourthly, to think about the federalization of Ukraine.
Fifthly, to ensure Russia's "investment" in the restoration of Ukraine, which Kyiv stubbornly calls "reparations". Their size varies from 100 to 300 billion dollars. Apparently, these are our gold and foreign exchange reserves frozen in the West.

I really don't want this to be true.

War


The worst thing is that this conditional “Minsk-3” will face exactly the same fate as the first two, and the consequences of the “agreement” will be even more serious.

Naturally, there will be no federalization of Ukraine, much less recognition of Crimea and Donbass (by the way, where did the Azov region go?) as Russian ones. If some freeze does occur, it will be temporary, so that the Armed Forces of Ukraine can further increase their offensive potential. Alexey Danilov, Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, stated this directly:

We can't freeze anything. We are not a freezer. We must liberate our territories regardless of the weather, regardless of the season.
We cannot miss a single stop, because our people are there, we see how they suffer... The president's task is to liberate all our territories from terrorists and occupiers.

What can realistically happen is the Kremlin's consent to the transfer of seized gold and foreign exchange reserves to Kyiv as part of a "goodwill gesture" to restore Ukrainian infrastructure. With everything else, Vladimir Putin will be "thrown" once again. Whoever doubts, can recall the comments of ex-president Poroshenko regarding the Minsk agreements:

We have achieved what we wanted. We did not believe Putin, just as we do not believe now. Our task was, firstly, to avert the threat, or at least to delay the war. Knock yourself eight years so we can rebuild economic growth and built the power of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. This was the first task - and it was achieved. The Minsk agreements have fulfilled their task.

So it will be this time. Ukraine, with the help of the entire NATO bloc, will prepare for a new war, and Russia cannot avoid it in any way. The main blow will fall on Melitopol and Berdyansk, cutting off the land corridor to the Crimea, after which it will be necessary to come up with some other wording about the need to save the lives of soldiers and civilians on an isolated peninsula. After that, an internal political crisis in Russia is inevitable, which the Armed Forces of Ukraine can take advantage of by launching an offensive deep into our territories.

The Russian-Ukrainian war was a foregone conclusion in 2014. On September 30, President Putin legally annexed the DPR with the LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions to our country. To date, a significant part of the Donbass is still occupied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Kherson has been surrendered without a fight, and Ukrainian flags are now flying in the wind. The Constitution of the Russian Federation requires any normal President and Supreme Commander to liberate the territory of their country. Further clash between our two countries is predetermined.

A war between Russia and Ukraine over territories is inevitable. Is it possible to somehow replay the situation, turning it in your favor? Yes.
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  1. Hiker Offline Hiker
    Hiker (Dmitriy) 12 November 2022 10: 55
    +26
    The main news of the day...
    NATO armored vehicles are massively moving along the Kherson front

    AND NOBODY IS TOUCHING IT!

    Do you remember how Stremousov said that we are witnessing a mass concentration of troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.....But we are not doing anything?
    And today it's the same everywhere. Mass concentration in Zaporozhye.
    Nobody touches the bridges across the Dnieper in Zaporozhye and they calmly cross to the other side with all the equipment.
    Does Russia have no aviation, no missiles? During World War II, aircraft bombed bridges. And successfully.

    Some kind of story of vile, rotten, rancid betrayal.
    General Armageddon praised from scratch.
    Is he waiting for everything to flow from Kherson over the bridge to Zaporozhye?
    What would then announce that it is necessary to save the lives of soldiers and send them to the Crimea or further?
    1. Grits Offline Grits
      Grits (Alexander) 12 November 2022 12: 32
      +14
      Surovikin turned out to be just as mediocre and cowardly as the rest of the generals. If Putin still controls something in this war (which I am already beginning to doubt), then he urgently needs to give command of the troops to those who can and want to fight - the commanders of the LPR and the DPR, Prigozhin, Kadyrov.
      1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 12 November 2022 13: 15
        +13
        rather mediocre than cowardly, generals don’t die in the trenches ..... like Kutuzov, he came later than strategic mistakes, namely, they didn’t listen to my advice about the first strike on the lions and Odessa, in order to cut off the urofascists from the west, now we’re disentangling ... too many kutuzovs, but not a single suvorov
      2. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
        Vox_Populi (vox populi) 12 November 2022 17: 34
        +4
        urgently need to give control of the troops to those who can and want to fight - the commanders of the LPR and the DPR, Prigozhin, Kadyrov

        Well, where are the last two, with what military leadership talents are they marked ???
        1. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
          Kofesan (Valery) 12 November 2022 20: 55
          +2
          Maybe someone is carrying out a plan to collapse the entire group, except for the LDNR and Crimea?
          There is only one who can give such a secret order. And super-obedient mediocrity can and will carry it out, because for obedience they got out to their places. For with other talents, in the absence of such, except for servility, the road to the fat trough would not have been broken. And they themselves know it. Therefore, they only show approval. And prickly professionals are not in Putin's honor. This has long been known.
        2. Corsair Offline Corsair
          Corsair (DNR) 12 November 2022 23: 23
          +8
          Quote from: Vox_Populi
          Well, where are the last two, with what military leadership talents are they marked ???

          Not marked yet , since both one and the other have not yet had the opportunity to show such talents in their own decisions.
          So far, they are like Minin and Pozharsky, of our time, citizens, to whose call to defend the Motherland the population of Russia responds ...
        3. Uncle Borya Offline Uncle Borya
          Uncle Borya (Uncle Borya) 13 November 2022 18: 44
          +3
          Quote from: Vox_Populi
          urgently need to give control of the troops to those who can and want to fight - the commanders of the LPR and the DPR, Prigozhin, Kadyrov

          Well, where are the last two, with what military leadership talents are they marked ???

          They have determination, which is very lacking in the rest with big stars on shoulder straps.
      3. guest Offline guest
        guest 13 November 2022 01: 41
        +3
        Quote: Gritsa
        he urgently needs to give command of the troops to those who can and want to fight - the commanders of the LNR and the DNR, Prigozhin, Kadyrov.

        No, the "partners" will not like this, and their opinion is still a priority for our elite.
      4. Vlad Burchilo Offline Vlad Burchilo
        Vlad Burchilo (Vlad) 13 November 2022 17: 34
        -2
        "Prigozhin and Kadyrov" forgot that they welcomed the departure of Kherson?
        The BEST commanders were killed in the DPR: "Givi", "Motorola" and, moreover, it's a no brainer that there was, at least, the idleness of the local MGB. If their MGB was doing business, would these commanders be alive, Korsa? It was not without betrayal, but what about the murder of the deputy prosecutor of the republic? There, in general, it is written in huge letters: AND Z M E N A!
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      6. Igor Offline Igor
        Igor (Vladimirovich) 14 November 2022 02: 50
        +1
        you give Surovikin an assessment ahead of time. He came to the already existing situation and in such a short time he was stupidly unable to close strategic miscalculations. .Well, how is Surovikin supposed to fix this in a month? Fix something that can take years or years to fix, or has the train already left?
    2. Andrey Gladkikh Offline Andrey Gladkikh
      Andrey Gladkikh (Andrey Gladkikh) 12 November 2022 13: 21
      -2
      ...Some story of vile, rotten, rancid betrayal

      From the pages of the Internet: "In 1916, Milyukov asked the question in a thought:" Is this stupidity or betrayal? Who are we playing along with, Dmitry?
      1. guest Offline guest
        guest 13 November 2022 01: 46
        -3
        Of course, I have a very negative attitude towards the events of February 1917, and this is still very mildly said, but it is simply ridiculous to consider that this one statement led to these tragic events.
      2. Plush Sergeant Offline Plush Sergeant
        Plush Sergeant 13 November 2022 06: 08
        0
        And then there was both stupidity and betrayal.
    3. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 12 November 2022 13: 25
      +9
      Quote from Hiker
      Does Russia have no aviation, no missiles? During World War II, aircraft bombed bridges. And successfully.

      in World War II, we lost 20 million, including 5 million soldiers and pilots, it turned out that aviation is vulnerable, the surface fleet in the closed seas is useless in principle, and the drone is a consumable item that thousands need, that missiles require target designation, but it is not ... that artillery is forced to solve problems in mass, since missiles and aircraft cannot cope ..... the reason? military officials are specialists in cutting, the fleet is for themselves, aviation is for themselves, but they didn’t listen to officials for cutting into drones and satellites, because their hardware weight was not great, all the more there were no people capable of linking a target designation satellite (drone) with missiles .... this difficult, because different departments of the feeder, how to share the loot?
    4. Downed pilot Offline Downed pilot
      Downed pilot (Sympathetic) 12 November 2022 15: 50
      +18
      Surovikin, in general, is not much to blame for the surrender of Kherson, he has already come to everything ready. The only thing is that for participating, together with Shoigu, in the farce of the “evacuation of soldiers”, he earned himself the title of Armageddon of Polukherson.
      Shoigu for the collapse of the army and the failure of the SVO (since none of the goals of the SVO has been achieved in as much as 9 months), he must resign. If he does not find a job in his specialty, then you can arrange him as the head of the Patriot Park security. Perhaps it will work.
      Ensign Konashenkov from the whole country received a warning about complete service inconsistency, for hanging pasta on the ears of Russians. Instead, you can put a pretty girl in uniform in front of the camera, you can be a lieutenant. At least Oles Losev, for example. We will not listen, we will watch.
      It is time for Lieutenant Colonel of All Rus' to look for a successor while there is still time.
      I have the honor.
      1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
        rotkiv04 (Victor) 12 November 2022 19: 25
        +2
        A downed pilot, a cool overview of the current situation, write more often, even if we laugh
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 12 November 2022 11: 14
    +8
    IMHO, they write on VO that there is no "NATO armored vehicles en masse moving along the Kherson front".
    These are all excuses - they say the whole West is at war ...
    Small deliveries of junk (according to the media), of which the same media boasted, and so they killed a bunch.

    Imperialism is in the yard. - means "not a war" for the territory. To surrender to Ukraine is a loss of face. We do not join - too.
    And the West and the military-industrial complex will joyfully dose money and supplies (not a war!), buy oil from us and use it (directly or indirectly) to fill the equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. On the VO, the marks on the map were directly shown from tankers from the west (maybe they are lying). Nothing like that, imperialism, money doesn't smell.

    Well, as for "do not touch the roads and enterprises of our oligarchs there" and so everyone has already heard.
  3. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 12 November 2022 11: 26
    +24
    with the current leader, this is impossible in principle, his main task is not to protect his state and people, he protects and wins a place under the sun for his Russian oligarchs. This is Putin's real plan
    1. ja.net.1975 Offline ja.net.1975
      ja.net.1975 12 November 2022 11: 32
      0
      vote and you will have eternal peace
  4. Hiker Offline Hiker
    Hiker (Dmitriy) 12 November 2022 12: 09
    +17
    The worst thing for ordinary people is that the Russian leadership has a complete mess in their heads.
    Peskov, it turns out, has a conflict in Ukraine.
    Although all hostilities take place on the territory of Russia and within Russia.
    Or Peskov and the Russian generals do not accept the decisions of the State Duma and Putin's decrees?
    NWO today is all within Russian territory.

    Maybe kick those political scientists on TV who have a war in Ukraine in the ass.
    If the war is in Ukraine, then revoke the admission of the LDNR, Kherson, Zaporozhye to Russia and that's it.
    All PMCs, mobilized, troops, army INSIDE Russia and Russian borders.

    But how Surovikin and Shoigu will maintain the inviolability of Russian borders is a big question.
    Deputies in the State Duma should long ago create a commission on the state border and ensuring security within Russia.
    If Ukraine and NATO attack the territory of Russia, then there must be action - not flight.
    1. Downed pilot Offline Downed pilot
      Downed pilot (Sympathetic) 12 November 2022 15: 54
      +15
      Surovikin surrendered Kherson, Shoigu failed the SVO. The Moors have done their job and must go.
      Resign
      1. Corsair Offline Corsair
        Corsair (DNR) 12 November 2022 23: 30
        +2
        Quote: Downed pilot
        Surovikin surrendered Kherson, Shoigu failed the SVO. The Moors have done their job and must go.
        Resign

        They will leave (and that is another question yes ), and WHO will unravel all this ?
    2. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
      aslanxnumx (Aslan) 13 November 2022 09: 21
      +1
      And where is not the implication of the border. Kursk, Belgorod, Oryol regions shelling and penetration of the DRG, but the Crimea is also under shelling.
  5. Alex D Offline Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 12 November 2022 12: 38
    +7
    And what will change? As they sold for candy wrappers, so be it. It's just that Russians and Ukrainians will kill each other. You need to fight with visitors to Ukrainian synagogues, because there are warehouses and customers.
  6. About the poor hussar 12 November 2022 12: 56
    -9
    TsIPSO is now betting on urya-patriots who will disperse the topic - everything is gone boss, we have been betrayed
    1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
      aslanxnumx (Aslan) 13 November 2022 09: 23
      +1
      Our management does the work for them.
    2. Uncle Borya Offline Uncle Borya
      Uncle Borya (Uncle Borya) 13 November 2022 18: 53
      +2
      Quote: About the poor hussar
      TsIPSO is now betting on urya-patriots who will disperse the topic - everything is gone boss, we have been betrayed

      This is exactly what happens in the comments on almost every news on all resources. It's us, the Russians, who write comments at will, so there are few of us, but for the cips people who write under the guise of Russians, this is work and they do it well, I must admit.
  7. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 12 November 2022 13: 03
    +6
    Author. There is no war between Russia and Ukraine. Putin called it a special military operation (SVO), war and SVO is a huge difference. LDNR, Zaporozhye, Kherson region This is the territory of the Russian Federation.
    Everybody.
    Why is the legal regime of the counter-terrorist operation (CTO) not introduced, determined by the Federal Law of March 06.03.2006, 35 No. XNUMX-FZ “On Countering Terrorism” in the Russian territories: Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, Zaporizhia ???
    On September 23, 1999, President Boris Yeltsin introduced the CTO regime on the territory of Chechnya after the invasion of militants from Chechnya into Dagestan.
    What prevents President Putin from introducing the CTO regime in Russian territories: Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, Zaporozhye??? Or is it not the territory of Russia???
    1. Downed pilot Offline Downed pilot
      Downed pilot (Sympathetic) 12 November 2022 15: 58
      +6
      By the way, the fact that hostilities are conducted exclusively on the territory of the Russian Federation, is it so conceived?
      The fact that among civilians mostly citizens of the Russian Federation are dying, is it necessary?
      Who would answer
      1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
        aslanxnumx (Aslan) 13 November 2022 09: 26
        +1
        There will soon be no more pensioners, the able-bodied and younger generations are dying in the war. First, the population was thinned out by Covid, now the war will thin out. 30 million people will be enough to maintain and protect oil and gas fields.
        1. Alexfly Offline Alexfly
          Alexfly (Alexander) 16 November 2022 17: 59
          0
          The dream of daddy Chubais and Gref, head of the cemeteries of St. Petersburg ..
  8. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 12 November 2022 13: 11
    +8
    the problem of retreat is the incapacitated Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the wrong accents of military-technical policy, the lack of necessary weapons and sawing money for unnecessary (aircraft carrier), just cutting kickbacks and fraud of military officials, 1937 is necessary
    1. Vdars Offline Vdars
      Vdars (Victor) 12 November 2022 14: 24
      +11
      STALIN'S actions are needed. But Putin is not Stalin, his character and life experience are not the same!
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    2. Alexfly Offline Alexfly
      Alexfly (Alexander) 16 November 2022 18: 00
      0
      Is it weak to distribute AK to the population? With ammo...
  9. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 12 November 2022 13: 16
    +3
    Quote from Hiker
    Some kind of story of vile, rotten, rancid betrayal.
    General Armageddon praised from scratch.
    Is he waiting for everything to flow from Kherson over the bridge to Zaporozhye?

    it's like that
  10. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 12 November 2022 13: 27
    0
    The external function of the state is to protect its productive forces from external encroachments of partners, colleagues and friends and to seize other people's
  11. Hiker Offline Hiker
    Hiker (Dmitriy) 12 November 2022 13: 32
    +15
    Worse than any CIPSO is inconsistency, chaos and leapfrog ....
    Let's remember what Putin said - NVO should put an end to the shelling of Donetsk.
    And now, tell me why almost a year has passed, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are shelling Donetsk in the same place?
    That is, in Afghanistan, the Mujahideen could be knocked out of the deepest caves by aviation, but here is the super "Brest Fortress" ..... Or are they immortal or do each APU-shnik have 8 lives?
    Reservations about concrete walls cause only a smile.
    Because no one storms the walls, but bypasses and deprives them of ammunition and food.
    But apparently someone needs a tightening of the conflict.
    So Kherson is not the only failure after the flight ...
    In addition, everyone remembers how they even arrested those who uttered the words WAR!
    Are they rehabilitated? Did you remove the admin?
    And how generals hide from questions why don't they touch the bridges over which military equipment is being transported ..... Why are there bridges in Zaporozhye???? What would more Russians die from imported mercenaries and tanks?
    And how do generals hide from questions where did the APU get diesel for tanks.....
    One tank a day, half a tank ... what a string of echelons should be in order to power hundreds and hundreds of units, including NATO equipment?
    Trains with diesel engines and techno from Europe go through all Ukraine and no one touches them.
    We apparently do not have aviation, as during the Second World War ....
    Well, if it is a CONTRACT, then why mobilization?
    After all, if there is a war, then you need to fight, and not create the appearance and blame everything on TsIPSO.
  12. Griffith Offline Griffith
    Griffith (Oleg) 12 November 2022 13: 45
    -11
    One shame, shame and repent, listening to such authors. But nothing that 4 areas were included? But nothing that we are at war with NATO and their lackeys with a population of more than 1 billion and with spending on the Armed Forces of more than 1.5 trillion. Doll.? Is it okay that we are at war with those who have a total of 60% of world GDP? Hello, author? You don't want to talk about it? Can we still remember and repent for having sold Alaska to America? We have given away half of Europe since 1991. And in general for what we are? Or should we accept the given as it is and act accordingly?
    1. gene1 Offline gene1
      gene1 (Gennady) 12 November 2022 14: 02
      -10
      good + History told us that A. Nevsky filled his cities with blood, pacifying riots. He, having a label, obeyed only the khan and could stop many injustices (hijacking Russians into captivity, ...) on the spot, but there was no time, he drove the convoy to the khan, solving a more global issue - the question of the survival of Rus'.
      Probably, the captive Russians cursed him in the back. Nevsky is canonized as a saint.

      Yeah, I think Putin is the Nevsky of our era. CBO is not finished, we will count the chickens by the fall of 2023.
      1. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
        Vox_Populi (vox populi) 12 November 2022 17: 40
        +1
        And in general for what we are? Or should we accept the given as it is and act accordingly?

        Aha, aha, act, good luck! winked

        Yeah, I think Putin is the Nevsky of our era. CBO is not finished, we will count the chickens by the fall of 2023

        Here it is like Mikhalych, worthy trolling! lol
    2. Elya Zorina Offline Elya Zorina
      Elya Zorina (Elya Zorina) 12 November 2022 22: 36
      -3
      At least one adequate comment of a smart person
    3. Corsair Offline Corsair
      Corsair (DNR) 12 November 2022 23: 37
      +2
      Quote: Griffit
      But nothing that 4 areas were included?

      But nothing yes request ...
      Four entered in incomplete strength, THREE of them have already suffered losses in the territories.
      Only here, in the DPR, we gnaw village after village with great blood ...
    4. Alexfly Offline Alexfly
      Alexfly (Alexander) 16 November 2022 18: 06
      0
      The regions entered de facto, de jure it will be necessary to wait for the world community, and this is a big question .. It’s not yet a fact that the regions will hold on ... Why fight then? 90 missiles launched at a time and again wait six months? It should be 100 per day for the entire infrastructure of the neighboring state ... A little more and air defense will be restored .. Already now pilots are afraid to fly, but what will happen in six months?
  13. Hiker Offline Hiker
    Hiker (Dmitriy) 12 November 2022 13: 58
    +7
    Macron congratulated the Ukrainians on the occupation of Russian Kherson.

    Maybe they announced a note to France or summoned the ambassador?
    Or did they react in any way?
    Silence of the Lambs!
    The Russian Foreign Ministry has turned into a monkey house.
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    2. Corsair Offline Corsair
      Corsair (DNR) 12 November 2022 23: 39
      +2
      Quote from Hiker
      Silence of the Lambs!

      The lambs have grown up a long time ago, and have become ordinary rams ...
      1. Alexfly Offline Alexfly
        Alexfly (Alexander) 16 November 2022 18: 08
        0
        For 30 years after the advice and the construction of the pyramid of power, only rams do not get out, and the sheep remain only at the bottom to troll ..
  14. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
    sgrabik (Sergei) 12 November 2022 14: 36
    +5
    Surprising and extremely annoying is this strange and stupid desire to surrender everything and make peace with Ukraine by any means, thereby pleasing the West, where do all these inadequate plans for a truce with the criminal Nazi regime in Kyiv come from, we have already completely forgotten how to fight, how can you do this it’s easy and simple to surrender our national interests, there should be no place at all for any selfish mercantile interests, business is business, and war is war, and in this case one should not intersect with the other in any way, it is impossible to win the war without mobilizing all your forces and means for this to the maximum, well, unless of course we really plan and want to win this war not in words but in deeds.
    1. Alexfly Offline Alexfly
      Alexfly (Alexander) 16 November 2022 18: 11
      0
      And everything is very simple - this is an incomprehensible war for the incomprehensible interests of world capital .... Many people think that why office plankton should die for oligarchic offspring spending a pleasant time in Monaco or somewhere else ...
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 16 November 2022 20: 40
      0
      sgrabik, where did you get this from, then we need to make peace with Ukraine by all means?
  15. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 12 November 2022 14: 44
    0
    Agent provocateur?
  16. Vlad Petrov Offline Vlad Petrov
    Vlad Petrov (Vladimir) 12 November 2022 14: 45
    -1
    It was necessary to return Yanukovych, restore the constitutional order, and then demand the federalization of the country and the recognition of Crimea as ours

    And what does it mean to keep the hohland and eventually get a tighter war with Bandera. Dill cannot exist normally; the eastern regions are Russian, the west is dill. they won't agree. And also there will be no land corridor to the Crimea, which means abandoning the Russian lands to NATO. No, Putin correctly annexed Novorossia to the Russian Federation, and further issues will be resolved.
  17. Alex_90 Offline Alex_90
    Alex_90 (Alexander) 12 November 2022 14: 52
    -2
    First, start a negotiation process to resolve the conflict.
    Secondly, to freeze the armed conflict.
    Third, move on to discussing the issue of recognizing Crimea and the LDNR as Russian.
    Fourth, think about the federalization of Ukraine.
    Fifth, to ensure Russia's "investment" in the restoration of Ukraine, which in Kyiv is persistently called "reparations". Their size varies from 100 to 300 billion dollars. Apparently, these are our gold and foreign exchange reserves frozen in the West.

    Well, friends, do you like this end of the special operation?

    Better a bad world than a good war.
    Undoubtedly, it won't be long. A year or two at the most. But maybe during this time we will prepare our real army?
    Let's increase the size of our army. What would not be a million, but three. And now prepare for the real, without tank biathlon.
    But will it be? It is clear that Putin will be thrown. He himself understands this. The only question is, how much time will we have?

    It's been almost a year already..
    The fact that a strange military operation is taking place is understandable. What to talk about if every military correspondent knows more than intelligence?
    And to fight for real .. apparently, the leadership simply has no desire. After all, you can bomb equipment and this army in an open field, you can compare cities with the ground without nuclear weapons.

    Much has been written about bridges and roads in western Ukraine. They say that they should be destroyed and cut off supplies. At the very beginning it was still possible, but they did not. Now there is no possibility. Rockets are expensive, a plane with a pilot is even more expensive.

    Still, it's the calm before the storm.

    It seems to me that now we will dig in, we will shoot back. We will occupy the enemy grouping in the Kherson direction, and in the meantime we will also focus on western Ukraine from the side of Belarus.
    After all, it was not in vain that troops were sent there, and for 3 weeks there has been no news about this.

    Without supplies, there will be no APU.
    Well, what would be for sure - another mobilization, 500-800 thousand closer to spring.
    1. Downed pilot Offline Downed pilot
      Downed pilot (Sympathetic) 12 November 2022 16: 03
      +4
      Correctly. Another half a million mobilized another ten billion of Roma Rabinovich will be recaptured.
      In exchange for Crimea...
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 16 November 2022 20: 49
        0
        The downed one flies, if you would give billions of Abramovich-Rabinovich and other * newcomers *, what would you do with them?
        1. Downed pilot Offline Downed pilot
          Downed pilot (Sympathetic) 17 November 2022 16: 55
          0
          Cool, man, you should have the shoulders of a Schwartz-American, the brains of a mask and the position of a nabiulina, what would you do .. by the way, it was not necessary to edit the comment, it looked so good anyway ...
          If you want humor, I have it...
          I would choose the quietest and most neglected province in the heart of Russia, away from the crazy brothers of the Slavs in the west and from the fraternal China in the east, I would get out as a governor there.
          The heart of Russia is the Golden Ring and the Volga region, who does not know.
          For example, the Penza region ... is waiting to be picked up. Transport is developed, next to Tatarstan with industry and resources, the Nizhny Novgorod region, no comment, the human resources of Mariyel, Mordovia, Chuvashia, the population is peaceful, hardworking, Orthodox., Near the reserved Tambov and the forgotten Simbirsk province.
          I would make a science city and Silicon Valley in one place, invest in microelectronics, machine tool building, pharmacology, genetic engineering ... I would build incubators so that chickens would not be transported by plane from Holland.
          Although, it would be better to take Chuvashia, the ideal option. Railway roads are developed, highways are better in Rasey, there are water resources, what else is needed for happiness ... Machine-tool building in Cheboksary started, would, bearings, components for aviation, the fifth tenth ...
          The people there are not exhausted by religion, they worship the Bird of Happiness, they know how to work, they know how to endure ... after 10 years, I would accept the rank of Khan or Sultan of Chuvash with gratitude
    2. Nuka Offline Nuka
      Nuka (Nuka) 12 November 2022 22: 53
      0
      Quote: Alex_90
      It seems to me that now we will dig in, we will shoot back. We will occupy the enemy grouping in the Kherson direction, and in the meantime we will also focus on western Ukraine from the side of Belarus.
      After all, it was not in vain that troops were sent there, and for 3 weeks there has been no news about this.

      Without supplies, there will be no APU.
      Well, what would be for sure - another mobilization, 500-800 thousand closer to spring.

      Good idea, BUT:
      All this is not enough. This is not enough even for effective defense.
    3. Bakht Offline Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 13 November 2022 10: 00
      -1
      Better a bad world than a good war.

      Better a good war than a bad peace.
      1. Fourth Offline Fourth
        Fourth (Fourth) 13 November 2022 12: 18
        0
        Short comments are not your forte. Is there anything else you would like to add to your statement?
        1. Bakht Offline Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 13 November 2022 14: 41
          0
          The author proposed a bad world. And then he announced that there would be a new war. Spring. Do you see any contradiction?
          And about the fact that

          We will occupy the enemy grouping in the Kherson direction, and in the meantime we will also focus on western Ukraine from the side of Belarus.

          I don't even want to comment. You have to be realistic.
          1. Fourth Offline Fourth
            Fourth (Fourth) 13 November 2022 18: 00
            0
            Let's be realistic. The author quoted Cicero out of place, but it was not the author who suffered, but the work of Cicero.
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  19. voland_1 Online voland_1
    voland_1 (Vladimir) 12 November 2022 16: 17
    +2
    I propose to open the road to Moscow and cut off the supply. Let Ze, like Napoleon, drape to his place in Kyiv in winter
  20. Sergey Protopopov (Sergey Protopopov) 12 November 2022 16: 54
    +6
    I wonder if any party will want to impeach the president, or is everyone there in the share?
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 12 November 2022 19: 31
      +5
      Quote: Sergey Protopopov
      I wonder if any party will want to impeach the president, or is everyone there in the share?

      laughed heartily, just look at the "leaders" of these parties, their faces are horrified at the mere thought of criticizing the Kremlin prisoner, and you are talking about impeachment
    2. Alexfly Offline Alexfly
      Alexfly (Alexander) 16 November 2022 18: 41
      0
      YOU are not in America to rush impeachments.... This is Russia, have you forgotten 93? Now those lieutenants command armies... always have time to repaint...
  21. rish Offline rish
    rish (Rish) 12 November 2022 18: 38
    +4
    Maybe the problems are deeper: the Russo-Japanese War is a defeat, the First World War is a defeat, the Winter War is a defeat, the Second World War is a victory, but there are also a lot of "BUT ..", Afghan - just nothing, the First Chechen - agree just a defeat and the fact that the great Soviet army collapsed in some four years (1990 is still SA, 1994 is no longer RA), the Second Chechen and Syrian wars are not wars, but really very simple military operations, but also not just formed for us. Now, maybe someone just forgot what army reform took place ... How many officers were reduced, how many military schools were closed, only in Ulyanovsk two higher military schools and the Suvorov School were closed, that is, everything that was. In simple words, Russia was not ready for the NWO, and no past greatness guarantees anything.
    1. Cetron Offline Cetron
      Cetron (Peteris) 13 November 2022 02: 58
      +1
      The Finnish war was not lost, but they did it to the fullest. True, then the trousers were comprehended, gathered, Helsinki, factories, supply routes were bombed, the Mannerheim line was simply bypassed. The border was pushed back - in fact, the war was won. But they did not draw conclusions from the war that they would come back to haunt 41m. They messed it up again, had to retrain with blood and then 2 years! But the Wehrmacht showed everything back in 39m. I repeated it at 40, they didn’t understand! ..
      What am I: Syria - war of drones and cruise missiles, Karabakh - drones rule! Don't understand again? Now they buy in China and Iran. And cruise missiles seem to have run out, factories have just started production again, claiming to work in three shifts.
  22. voznesensky Offline voznesensky
    voznesensky (Oleg Petrovich) 12 November 2022 19: 51
    +2
    As I understand it, on purpose or not, our military and political leadership is creating a situation where Russia, in accordance with the open (not classified!) Decree of the President "On the Fundamentals of the State Policy of the Russian Federation in the Field of Nuclear Deterrence" dated June 2.06.2020, XNUMX, can reasonably, on legislative level to use tactical nuclear weapons. I quote:

    The Russian Federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons ... also in the event of aggression against the Russian Federation with the use of conventional weapons, when the very existence of the state is threatened.

    The current situation and its rather predictable further development - the crossing of the border of the Russian Federation by the Armed Forces of Ukraine within the Kursk or Belgorod regions - fully corresponds to the specified conditions for the use of nuclear weapons. If we take into account that 1) all citizens who wished to do this have already been evacuated from the territory of the most likely first use of it, despite the fact that 2) the part of the Kherson region left by us is, perhaps, the most sparsely populated part of Ukraine, and 3) then the circumstance that, of course, the strike will be delivered locally, only at the enemy’s location, the assumption of the possible use of nuclear weapons in this theater of operations does not seem to me so unbelievable. Perhaps this is precisely the simple meaning of our "maneuver", for which the majority of our citizens do not find a reasonable explanation, and therefore believe in all sorts of mythical "agreements" and betrayal of the top. Is it scary to believe in the possibility of using nuclear weapons? But is it really not clear to someone that a little earlier or a little later, but this will inevitably happen. It will only happen, very possibly, with terrible and disastrous consequences for the population of the entire planet. In our case, such a step on our part, I am convinced, will only serve to sober up Washington and Co., will make it clear to the West that Russia will not cede anything to it, no matter what the cost. I am sure that only the determination we have shown to the Western world to use nuclear weapons to defend itself can still give some chance to prevent a world catastrophe. I hope that's how it was intended. At the same time, the issue of the war in Ukraine and the preservation of the lives of our soldiers will be radically resolved. I think so.
    1. rish Offline rish
      rish (Rish) 12 November 2022 19: 58
      +2
      It will be just the end of Russia, it will turn out that again, someone stole something and is not enough
      1. Nuka Offline Nuka
        Nuka (Nuka) 12 November 2022 23: 02
        +1
        Quote from rish
        It will be just the end of Russia, it will turn out that again, someone stole something and is not enough

        just the end of Russia it will just happen, if what voznesensky (Oleg Petrovich) hopes for does not happen. And if it happens, it will be either the end of everything, or our victory.
    2. voznesensky Offline voznesensky
      voznesensky (Oleg Petrovich) 13 November 2022 04: 53
      -2
      And now think carefully about the phrase of the Deputy Head of the Security Council of Russia, Dm. Medvedev:

      Russia, for obvious reasons to all reasonable people, has not yet used its entire arsenal of POSSIBLE MEANS OF DAMAGE. And it did not strike at all possible enemy targets located in settlements. And not only out of our inherent human kindness. EVERYTHING HAS ITS TIME...

      And this is said by a person who today is the only one of the Russian top politicians who is already making the second comment on the situation after leaving Kherson.
      1. Alexfly Offline Alexfly
        Alexfly (Alexander) 16 November 2022 19: 02
        0
        And what do you trust him? He does not trust you, why should you do this to Him?
    3. Peace Peace. Offline Peace Peace.
      Peace Peace. (Tumar Tumar) 13 November 2022 13: 19
      +1
      This is what I wrote about here 5-6 days ago, that a bridgehead is being prepared for the use of tactical nuclear weapons, maybe even along the western border along Poland across the entire width with the entry of troops from Belarus. Support will be for all three types of nuclear weapons. So I think so.
  23. ggnipa Offline ggnipa
    ggnipa (Georgy Gnipa) 12 November 2022 20: 20
    -6
    Time will tell who is right.
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    2. Elya Zorina Offline Elya Zorina
      Elya Zorina (Elya Zorina) 12 November 2022 22: 48
      -4
      During the war, one should not speak badly of one's own. Never

      Sergei Bodrov about the war
      1. In passing Offline In passing
        In passing (Galina Rožkova) 13 November 2022 00: 25
        +6
        We don't talk bad about our own. We speak ill of those who are not our own.
  24. Ugens Offline Ugens
    Ugens (Victor) 12 November 2022 21: 27
    +1
    They made a problem for themselves by starting the NWO, then they burned the bridges, accepting the regions as part of Russia, and now they are thinking how to get out of this well ....
    Definitely Zelensky will not freeze, after the Kharkiv and Kherson Armed Forces of Ukraine are on the rise, weapons from the West are flowing like a river, now he dictates the conditions.
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 13 November 2022 00: 00
      -1
      Let's wait a month and a half. During this time, the mobilized will pull up to the front. Then we'll see how it ends. It also seems to me that Putin should not hesitate to brandish a nuclear baton against Ukraine specifically, so that it does not make too big demands, and the West is thinking about the nuclear threat.
      1. guest Offline guest
        guest 13 November 2022 01: 31
        +1
        Quote: Alexey Lan
        Putin should not hesitate to brandish a nuclear baton

        Yes, against the background of Putin, Khrushchev, whom I don’t particularly respect, is simply the greatest leader of our country, he saved Cuba with the threat of using nuclear weapons and at the same time forced the United States to remove missiles from Turkey.
        1. Peace Peace. Offline Peace Peace.
          Peace Peace. (Tumar Tumar) 13 November 2022 13: 12
          0
          Well, what can I say - charisma.
      2. Igor Offline Igor
        Igor (Vladimirovich) 13 November 2022 03: 37
        +3
        and what's the use of waving a club, if so they are not afraid of it, and after Kherson they also laugh and spit not in silence, but openly at the Russian Federation?
  25. Mehmet Arkadash Offline Mehmet Arkadash
    Mehmet Arkadash (Mehmet Arkadash) 12 November 2022 23: 31
    -5
    Enough whining!!!
    In the spring, 2023, a real war will begin, please report to the military registration and enlistment offices, and not to the train stations - there will be an article for desertion: THE HOMELAND IS IN DANGER !!!

    Prophet of Allah and Foreteller.....
    1. Igor Offline Igor
      Igor (Vladimirovich) 14 November 2022 02: 54
      0
      and what is a real war, I’m embarrassed to ask? When will they hit Washington with a vigorous bomb? Or how?
  26. Omas Bioladen Offline Omas Bioladen
    Omas Bioladen 13 November 2022 01: 20
    -3
    Es läuft gut für Mutter Russland. Sie kann endlich ihre Lieblingsrolle spielen. Die beleidigte Dickmadam im Mittelpunkt der Aufmerksamkeit.
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 13 November 2022 01: 22
      0
      Do not confuse Russia with your under-chancellor, he is an offended liverwurst.
    2. Alexfly Offline Alexfly
      Alexfly (Alexander) 16 November 2022 19: 10
      0
      In der EU ist es auch nicht so einfach mit der finanziellen Attraktivität, gerade in den letzten Monaten (ohne Asylbewerber)
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  27. Igor Offline Igor
    Igor (Vladimirovich) 13 November 2022 03: 34
    -1
    Is it possible to somehow replay the situation, turning it in your favor? Yes. and without any signing of something. There will be tacit agreements and without a clearly defined winner. To re-equip its Russian Armed Forces and complete reorganization (this war demonstrated the weakness of building the RF Armed Forces on the principle of an expeditionary-type army for low-intensity conflicts), a lot of time is needed, which is not and besides, during this time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will still be more trained, and even more so, the issue of equipping the Armed Forces of Ukraine with NATO-made aircraft will no longer look like some kind of unrealistic. The conflict, it seems, will proceed according to an exemplary scenario as between India and Pakistan, that is, a very long one.
  28. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
    Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) 13 November 2022 05: 50
    +4
    We just need a Supreme Commander, not a king.
    1. Igor Offline Igor
      Igor (Vladimirovich) 14 November 2022 02: 57
      0
      and what will it change? One-two, stop corruption! Three-four, 500 thousand trained fighters become in service! Don’t you understand that whatever you call the supreme, strategic problems cannot be solved in a day or a month because of this ?
      1. Woland Offline Woland
        Woland (woland) 15 November 2022 23: 00
        0
        We need to bring back the death penalty and shoot people for corruption in public, like in China. At one time, Hitler in two weeks in this way coped with crime. at first, the people laughed at his decrees, but after the first public execution, everything changed instantly
        1. Alexfly Offline Alexfly
          Alexfly (Alexander) 16 November 2022 19: 17
          0
          For corruption, life imprisonment in quarries, confiscation of property from all family members and exile to Siberia. I am not talking about holding public and state posts ...
    2. Amper Offline Amper
      Amper (Vlad) 15 November 2022 10: 21
      0
      The system of nepotism, theft and corruption breeds only their own kind. Everything else rejects and destroys at the slightest resistance to the system. request The collapse of the system is inevitable - along with the state, sadly. crying
    3. Alexfly Offline Alexfly
      Alexfly (Alexander) 16 November 2022 19: 13
      0
      The pyramid of power was built for 20 years, how long does it take to rebuild it, here in Egypt they still stand ..
      In addition, the EBN bombed the parliamentary freemen, why would the heir dance in round dances?
  29. yo yo Offline yo yo
    yo yo (Vasya Vasin) 13 November 2022 08: 08
    0
    Apparently, again and again and again and again, the growing tension on the line of contact in the Donbass and the aggressive stance of the Ukrainian armed forces are causing concern to the Kremlin.
  30. alexandre II Offline alexandre II
    alexandre II (Alexander) 13 November 2022 10: 12
    0
    It was all predetermined when the monuments of our grandfathers were demolished with impunity, and Putin and Lavrov mumbled some ....., there was no harsh answer, so we are reaping the result. Remember my word, in February they will enter the territory of the Russian Federation and these gentlemen will continue to worry not about their citizens, but about poor Europe ....
    1. Peace Peace. Offline Peace Peace.
      Peace Peace. (Tumar Tumar) 13 November 2022 13: 09
      0
      In principle, the destruction of monuments is like the destruction of the graves of soldiers.
  31. Yaroslav the Wise (Yaroslav the Wise) 13 November 2022 10: 56
    +1
    Why couldn't they do everything in 2014? Yes, because they were not ready for the sanctions that Western countries would inevitably impose on Russia. Therefore, Putin announced a financial amnesty to the Aligars and more than once offered to transfer his finances from Western banks to Russian ones. But who listened to him!
    Also, the Government was given the command to engage in import substitution. But Medvedev, who then headed the Government, successfully failed this task! The question remains - why not punished? Moreover, a vacancy was opened for him, which never existed. For what merit, it is not clear
    Why was our army not ready? Yes, everything is simple! On the table of all the chiefs, from the commanders of the regiments to the Minister of Defense, there were reports that everything was fine in the troops. There are enough weapons. Outfit in full abundance. Soldiers day and night are engaged only in military training and nothing else, like leveling blankets on a thread or cutting snowdrifts a la "platform". And the fact that millions of sets of uniforms have disappeared somewhere, as well as the fact that there are only 40-50 percent of working equipment, is not necessary for the Minister of Defense and the President himself to know about this. And even more so, they do not need to know that generals and colonels, who know about the war only from books and movies, live in a way that even the Marshals of Victory did not live.
  32. kalita Offline kalita
    kalita (Alexander) 13 November 2022 11: 21
    0
    Shame on our military leadership. Apparently, today we do not have generals who can competently conduct military operations. There are no strategists. Since we are fighting today, it was better not to start a war at all. For all the time we have not deprived NATO of the opportunity to supply weapons to Ukraine, we are not destroying TV towers, railway stations, bridges. Some betrayal.
  33. Peace Peace. Offline Peace Peace.
    Peace Peace. (Tumar Tumar) 13 November 2022 13: 06
    0
    NATO weapons and mercenaries are fighting on the territory of Russia - is it their own or a war?
  34. Jstas Offline Jstas
    Jstas (jstas) 13 November 2022 13: 15
    -1
    73 naive dreamers...
    Once I wrote:

    Former prime minister, unicorn
    Small colonel and big scoundrel,
    He is friends with America, he serves the Jews ...


    The petty scoundrel turned into three times a traitor.
    1 betrayal in 1991,
    2 betrayal - October 1993,
    3 betrayal is now before our eyes.
    Russia has ALREADY surrendered to the West, and the Strange Military Operation /not a single victory, only defeats/ is conceived in the West to sow hopelessness in the hearts and minds before the final destruction of Russia.
    The nuclear arsenal of Russia, with the blessing of China / China gets the Far East and part of Siberia / transferred !!!! into the hands of NATO, "Poseidon" so frightening ov, recently disposed of.
    Some fluttering on the Ukrainian front - like the growth of hair and nails on a corpse.
    Lavrov rides in a G-20 to sign an "honorable" surrender.

    The Right Sector" again shoots Russian prisoners ...
    ... A soldier of the people's militia of the DPR, released from Ukrainian captivity, said that militants of the organization "Right Sector" banned in Russia executed prisoners;

    https://t.me/s/WarDonbass
    What will happen to Russia further was described by Berkem Al Atomi in the books "Marauder" published in 2007, and "The Punisher" - in 2009.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 16 November 2022 21: 04
      +1
      Jstas, what colors will you greet the winners of Russia with?
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  36. Vlad Burchilo Offline Vlad Burchilo
    Vlad Burchilo (Vlad) 13 November 2022 17: 37
    -2
    The author, in fact, Peskov said that they would not make concessions to Kyiv
  37. Vlad Burchilo Offline Vlad Burchilo
    Vlad Burchilo (Vlad) 13 November 2022 18: 57
    -1
    The author, British Defense Secretary Ben Wallis stated:

    Moscow is far from giving up
  38. alexander m_2 Offline alexander m_2
    alexander m_2 (Alexander) 13 November 2022 20: 29
    -1
    Yes, the Russian army is currently retreating. It is a fact. For what reason? We are not being told the truth. And in general, all decisions smell of some kind of betrayal and surrender of positions. As if someone else controls the Russian army in the interests of others. With such advantages in hand, bring everything to naught and retreat. It is bitter and insulting for the dead best guys. The only way out is to bite the bullet throughout the country, get rid of the liberal elite, mobilize, mobilize the entire industry. The whole thing is leading to a big war, it will begin with the invasion of the NATO countries into the war. What then will the leadership of the Russian Federation do, conclude the shameful peace of Brest? Russia change, wake up people.
    1. Amper Offline Amper
      Amper (Vlad) 15 November 2022 10: 14
      -1
      The rotten top will get rid of itself!? Doubtful! The mediocre and corrupt will gather together and shoot themselves in repentance!? No. The top still rules and will continue to rule until the very end. Putin and Kotor will not drop an ax on their necks, external forces will carry it ... belay
  39. Andrey2023 Offline Andrey2023
    Andrey2023 (Andrei) 13 November 2022 21: 28
    0
    The article is manipulative. What future war can we talk about if this one is still in full swing?
    The essence of the manipulation is to present information about the proposed truce as a kind of fact.
    But this is not at all a fact. Why such a presentation?
    And then, the surrender of Kherson without a fight is the wildest, delusional formulation, comes directly from the cisso.
    What does it mean without a fight if the fighting in this direction has been going on for months? The fights are on and on!
    Including with heavy losses for the enemy, it was in this direction that the Kyiv regime suffered heavy losses. Time after time, making hopeless attacks.
    For example, did they try to cross from a good life in small boats in the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbthe nuclear power plant?
    This is for slaughter, under the fire of all means of destruction.
  40. assault 2019 Offline assault 2019
    assault 2019 (assault 2019) 13 November 2022 22: 45
    0
    The Constitution of the Russian Federation requires any normal President and Supreme Commander-in-Chief to liberate the territory of his country. Further clash between our two countries is predetermined.

    Oddly enough, but the comedian from the 95th quarter turned out to be much more persistent, cunning and more effective in defending the interests of his country ....
    50 states came out on the side of Ukraine and provide it with real financial, military, humanitarian and political assistance and support, here, too, a complete loss for Lavrov's department ....
    The army of Ukraine turned out to be more prepared for a real war than the tank biathlon champions under the leadership of Shoigu ...

    And how the situation will develop further, there are no bright expectations left, everything will be bad or very bad ....
    1. rish Offline rish
      rish (Rish) 14 November 2022 08: 28
      0
      It happens that comedians are much more human than some. An example of Nikulin, Raikin, etc., the list will be huge ...
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 16 November 2022 21: 22
      +1
      Storm, about defending the interests of the West in destroying his country, the comedian really acts more cunningly and more efficiently than his predecessors, and 50 countries help him in this with everything they can. And, indeed, apart from bright expectations for Ukraine, nothing but the destruction of the Kyiv regime does not shine. Let's already call a spade a spade. Well, the 41st is not the victory of Germany over the USSR.
  41. Samno Marr Offline Samno Marr
    Samno Marr (Samno Marr) 14 November 2022 19: 49
    +1
    You just have to accept the truth that the entire Russian Federation is not the Soviet army at all, and not even the Red Army, and it’s not the Russian Imperial Army at all, and you can’t expect anything great from it.
    Well, there are no Potemkin Rumyantsevs, Suvorovs, Kutuzovs, Ushakovs, no Bagrations and Tolls, no Rokossovskys, Malinovskys, not even Ustinovs.
    There aren't, and obviously there won't be.
    More and more similar to General Kuropatkin or Marshals Kulik and Blucher, Admiral Rozhestvensky, etc.
    The time of myths and miracles is over. The gray days of reality have arrived.
  42. Amper Offline Amper
    Amper (Vlad) 15 November 2022 10: 06
    0
    ..... The Constitution of the Russian Federation requires any normal president and Supreme Commander-in-Chief to liberate the territory of their country .... Where can I get it !? what Search as always in China? fellow
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 16 November 2022 21: 25
      0
      Amper, what about the Supreme from China? Whoshsh is this antyresna?
      1. Amper Offline Amper
        Amper (Vlad) 17 November 2022 17: 44
        0
        So we now have almost everything from China. If you need something, look in China. If the product is Russian, then at the bottom we find a postscript - made in China, if made in Russia, then inside - half, at least, made in China. feel So let the king be made in China and brought. fellow
        1. Downed pilot Offline Downed pilot
          Downed pilot (Sympathetic) 17 November 2022 20: 59
          0
          Ampere, Nosovsky and Fomenko read at your leisure. China is not far from China cities in general ... like Mongolia is not far from the Terrible Tartar of Mongolia .. look at the maps of the 17th century, it will seem that the glasses have been wiped with a napkin. and somewhere else there was India ... where. India... china, india persia everything comes and goes. Russia will be forever