With a strike on Melitopol, the Armed Forces of Ukraine may deprive the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation of the entire southern bridgehead


Following the evacuation of the inhabitants of Kherson from the right bank of Ukraine, many started talking about a similar development of events in other regions. According to the head of the Zaporozhye region Yevhen Balitsky, these measures in his region are possible in case of special danger.


At the same time, such a scenario cannot be ruled out. If the Armed Forces of Ukraine take offensive actions against Melitopol, then the Russian grouping in the southern direction of the special operation will be divided in half. The units of the RF Armed Forces in the Kherson region and all allied forces west of the E105 highway will be in a semi-circle. In this case, the Zaporizhzhya NPP will also be exposed to danger.

Meanwhile, the RF Armed Forces carried out preventive strikes against Ukrainian formations in the Zaporozhye region. This was announced by the head of the movement "We are together with Russia", a member of the main council of the regional administration, Vladimir Rogov. Thus, the Russian side prevents the possibility of creating a kulak Armed Forces for an attack.

According to Rogov, the Russian Armed Forces attacked Ukrainian military targets in the settlements of Malye Shcherbaki and Danilovka, as well as in the city of Gulyaipole and a number of suburbs of Zaporozhye.

Along with this, Russian units after the capture of Pavlovka (DPR) have the opportunity to make a breakthrough in several directions at once: Kramatorsk, Krivoy Rog, Kharkov and Kherson. This point of view was expressed by former intelligence officer and retired colonel Anatoly Matviychuk.
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  1. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 11 November 2022 17: 43
    +11
    have the ability to make a breakthrough

    What "breakthrough" is the "former intelligence officer and retired colonel" talking about? Pavlovka took more than a week. Where and when were such "breakthroughs"? The Armed Forces of Ukraine cling to every settlement and bridgehead for weeks.
    When the crossings over the Ingulets were demolished, they could not liquidate the Andreevsky bridgehead. the Ukrainians held out even without supplies.
    This former polkan does not want to compare the resistance in the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Russian troops?
    1. Skipper Offline Skipper
      Skipper (Skipper) 11 November 2022 17: 50
      +1
      Do you know how they get this resilience? What are the losses in the end for us and for them?
      1. sap Offline sap
        sap (Alex) 11 November 2022 17: 55
        -2
        US space intelligence estimates about 100000 on each side. Of course they lie.
        1. Bakht Offline Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 11 November 2022 18: 14
          +1
          The losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kherson direction are estimated at 10-12 thousand people. For a month and a half. On average, 200-300 people per day. Compared with the result of "liquidation of a strategically important foothold", quite moderate.
      2. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 11 November 2022 18: 11
        +5
        Do you know how long the Armed Forces of Ukraine defend their positions? This is not about losses, but about how to defend your territory. According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, 30 thousand personnel and 5 thousand units of equipment were evacuated from the right bank of the Dnieper. Parts of 6 brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine participated in the attack on Kherson. Maybe more, but I only counted 6. How much does that make in terms of personnel?
        1. i232323b Offline i232323b
          i232323b (Igor) 11 November 2022 19: 48
          0
          Who else believes the data of the RF Ministry of Defense? Haha...
          1. Bakht Offline Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 11 November 2022 20: 06
            +1
            What data can be trusted?
      3. ja.net.1975 Offline ja.net.1975
        ja.net.1975 12 November 2022 11: 34
        +1
        and you probably konashenkov reported....!
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    3. friar Offline friar
      friar (truth-reader) 14 November 2022 01: 14
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      Quote: Bakht
      have the ability to make a breakthrough

      What "breakthrough" is the "former intelligence officer and retired colonel" talking about? Pavlovka took more than a week. Where and when were such "breakthroughs"? The Armed Forces of Ukraine cling to every settlement and bridgehead for weeks.
      When the crossings over the Ingulets were demolished, they could not liquidate the Andreevsky bridgehead. the Ukrainians held out even without supplies.
      This former polkan does not want to compare the resistance in the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Russian troops?

      What is the stamina of the sun? With terrible losses, the army, several times superior to the attacking limited group of troops, and even with bottomless supplies, barely defended its positions, defending itself with the Dnieper.
      It’s hard to convince crests, you will stubbornly beat your chest with your fist, omitting the most important moments of these small victories of yours: the complete mobilization of the country’s male population, the bottomless financing of Europe, the United States and its satellites, the supply of mercenaries from Poland and other parts of the world, and the work of all intelligence and other intellectual NATO machines. You are just meat there, which has already begun to end. Russia's resources in this conflict, compared to your already economically and economically destroyed country, are unlimited, the further you are pushed into this conflict, the closer your end is. This is a pyrrhic victory that will lead you to a logical end.
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  3. Ulan.1812 Offline Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 (Boris Gerasimov) 11 November 2022 20: 29
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    Quote: Bakht
    Do you know how long the Armed Forces of Ukraine defend their positions? This is not about losses, but about how to defend your territory. According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, 30 thousand personnel and 5 thousand units of equipment were evacuated from the right bank of the Dnieper. Parts of 6 brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine participated in the attack on Kherson. Maybe more, but I only counted 6. How much does that make in terms of personnel?

    Such a number could hold the defense for months, especially since the rear was protected by the Dnieper.
  4. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 11 November 2022 21: 16
    +1
    Meanwhile, the Russian Armed Forces carried out preventive strikes against Ukrainian formations in the Zaporozhye region.

    The whole world is already laughing at the effectiveness of the strikes and the actions of the RF Armed Forces in general. A complete foreign policy disaster. Where is this "washbasin chief and washcloth commander"? Has he gone into the shadows? It's a pity he refused to go to the G-20. I would feel everything there.
    St. Petersburg kid, strike first, hockey, judo. And ju-after.
  5. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 11 November 2022 22: 01
    +7
    He who betrayed once, will betray both two and three times, this is about the betrayal of the power of the Russian Federation by the Russian people. What to guess, the Russian authorities do not need a victory in Ukraine. Now the authorities of the Russian Federation are faced with an acute question of what else can be handed over, and they have little choice.
    1. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 12 November 2022 21: 31
      +3
      The only question is why they got into all this at all.
      Why was something to take, what would then hand over?

      I can admit that they climbed into the water, not knowing the ford.
      They thought that the population would meet loyally, but they would run away.
      And it's like this.
      They realized that they screwed up, and began to merge everything back.
      But if everyone was already preparing to merge back, why was it necessary to breed pathos with referendums?
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 16 November 2022 22: 39
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        Nelton, the pathos with the referendums has just begun! Soon the entire Left Bank is Novorossia, through * the pathos of referendums * it will become part of Russia. What will you then predict, allow, think, huh?
  6. Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) 12 November 2022 01: 16
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    They did the right thing by avoiding a possible battle for Kherson. If we imagine that this battle would lead to the squeezing of the RF Armed Forces to the left bank (even despite the tenfold losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine), this could become a very unpleasant event that would weaken Russia's position in the world, strengthen support for Ukraine by the West, demoralize the RF Armed Forces and would destabilize Russian society. It’s scary to imagine what those who are already writing about traitors in power and the inability of the RF Armed Forces to fight would write here (when in fact 200.000 rolled out 500, and then 700.000 army for six months and reduced it to exactly their numbers (killed and irretrievably wounded ).

    Especially considering that the withdrawal through the Dnieper is not an easy task and a lot of equipment would have been thrown, the prisoners are a catastrophe of gigantic proportions.
    It's impossible? For the United States, this battle would also be decisive for many of their problems regarding the support of Ukraine. They could well fit into this business on a larger scale than before. For example, deploy so many electronic warfare that we would lose our eyes from UAVs, which we are so used to and on which a lot is being built now. Could lose connection. A lot of other surprises from NATO could happen.

    Even if it were possible to repulse this offensive, failure would not be critical for the Kyiv regime, in comparison with the situation now - winter, support is in question, the RF Armed Forces knock out equipment and personnel remotely with drones, artillery and videoconferencing. Can do it for a long time.

    Although the combat effectiveness of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is not clear, it seems they were blown away. Perhaps the threat could be exaggerated. The General Staff knows better.
    1. Monax Offline Monax
      Monax (Hermann) 13 November 2022 12: 56
      +1
      My grandfather in the Great Patriotic War crossed the Dnieper in the forefront. He was wounded and shell-shocked, but the occupied bridgehead with his colleagues did not surrender and held until the approach of the main forces. And ours occupied the right bank, but where are our forces? Where are the Pskov and Ryazan divisions? Where are the Tamanskaya and Kantemirovskaya divisions? Where are our warriors? Only in parades can they march! I raised my children on the examples of our ancestors. And now, as adults, they ask me, so what? Shame on you guys, shame on you.
      1. friar Offline friar
        friar (truth-reader) 14 November 2022 01: 28
        0
        Yes, enough boasting grandfather. Your grandfather, before “not surrendering the bridgehead,” first retreated to Moscow. Go take up arms and go contract, show what you can do. From the sofa with a beer, of course, you are a prominent fighter. The usual UG is nothing of itself, capable only of throwing mud at others, and hiding behind their backs.
        Disgrace
      2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 16 November 2022 22: 47
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        Monk, it's a shame that you, having lived to gray hair, did not understand the meaning of the words tactics and strategy. The situation with your grandfather (glory to our heroes of the Second World War) is fundamentally different from today. Could your grandfather, a soldier of the Red Army, seriously admit the idea of ​​who his great-grandchildren would have to fight on the Dnieper?
    2. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 13 November 2022 16: 12
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      Personally, I have a suspicion that we have a serious shortage of ammunition and military equipment. People replenished, but there is nothing to fight. While the factories are swinging .... A month .... two .... three. A deal cannot be ruled out, as well as negotiations in order to be restored, which is beneficial to both parties.
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 16 November 2022 22: 51
        0
        Alexey, besides the thieves - an agreement, are there any normal synonyms in your vocabulary?
  7. Demonlivi Offline Demonlivi
    Demonlivi (Dima) 13 November 2022 15: 46
    0
    General Kherson, retreat from Melitopol and save our soldiers! Everything is fine! If the general decides and we will retreat to Moscow! Glory to Russia and Russian weapons.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 16 November 2022 22: 52
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      There is no such general, so breathe deeply, maybe the mind, having been saturated with oxygen, will tell you other names of generals? For example - General sofa.