"White top, red bottom": How a special operation split Russian society


The special military operation launched by President Putin on February 24, 2022, having turned from a “small and victorious” into a difficult bloody war in Ukraine, where Russia is indirectly opposed by the entire NATO bloc led by the United States, has become a severe test for our country. All the problems of the army and navy, their provision and supply instantly came to the surface. At the same time, a powerful rift has swept through the entire society and the ruling "elite", which may still backfire badly on Russia in the foreseeable future.


Over the past nine months, the SVO has presented so many unpleasant surprises and unjustified "gestures of good will" that we have to state the fact of a split both in the "top" and in the "bottom", which, as it turned out, in their mass look in different directions .

"Red" bottom


According to the data of September polls conducted by VTsIOM, 70% of Russians rather support the special operation in Ukraine, 18% rather do not support it, and 12% found it difficult to answer this question. That is, most of society is still "rather supportive" of the NWO. However, when compared with the May results of a similar study, their number has decreased from 73% to 70%. The number of those who did not support remained the same - 18%, who found it difficult to answer - increased from 10% to 12%. So far, nothing critical, but the dynamics, as they say, are negative. What can these numbers indicate?

It's actually pretty serious. If you add up those who openly do not support the special operation and those who were afraid to state it directly, it turns out that this is 30% of Russians. Huge number. This is already almost one in three, and people of such views are represented in all strata of our society, where, depending on their life position, they can passively or actively oppose SVO.

This means that the real backbone of Putin's regime is the same 70% of patriotic Russians who supported his special operation. These people in their mass perceived the return of Crimea and Sevastopol in 2014 as the first step towards historical revenge and the restoration of the USSR. Many then, in a sincere impulse, went to defend the Donbass under the red banners. However, they were all deceived. The “Russian Spring” was technically replaced by the “Crimean Spring”, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, defeated in several “cauldrons”, were allowed to occupy the territory of the DPR and LPR, creating powerful fortified areas, and the unrecognized republics themselves began to be pushed back into Ukraine within the framework of the Minsk agreements, the first and second. How the Kyiv regime used the 8 years given to it for training, everyone can see very well today.

The beginning of a special operation by President Putin in 2022 to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine was perceived by patriotic Russians and adequate Ukrainians as the Kremlin’s work on mistakes. Many are inclined to believe that the post-war former Square should, in one form or another, become part of Russia and its Union State with Belarus. But, as it turned out in August-September, the detachment of forces allocated by the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces to carry out the NMD is absolutely insufficient to achieve such a result, and Putin had to carry out partial mobilization in order to avoid the impending complete military catastrophe.

Such a turn of events could not but have a negative impact on Russian society. Those "doves of peace" that initially did not support the NWO, became even more strengthened in their convictions. The militant "hawks", having gone crazy from a series of "gestures of good will", "deals" and "regroupings", began to ask questions to their president and Supreme Commander-in-Chief, where, in fact, he is conducting a special operation and, ultimately, our country?

"White" top


The main problem lies precisely in the fact that there is still no unambiguous answer to this question. The truth of life is that the largest number of "doves of peace" is represented precisely in the Russian ruling "elite" and its "servants". There is nothing particularly surprising here.

For three decades we have been building a purely parasitic model: earn (rob) in Russia, withdraw capital abroad and then live happily ever after in the West. So everyone who could, did. Expensive overseas real estate, currency accounts in foreign banks, residence permits or second passports in prosperous countries, children studying in prestigious Western private schools and universities. And then suddenly such a bummer! In 2014, the life of our nouveau riche became much more difficult because of the Crimea, in 2022, after the start of a special operation in Ukraine. The entire way of life of a huge number of the richest and most influential people in Russia was destroyed.

Of course, they are trying by all means available to them to defend what they consider their rightful. All 8 years after the declaration of independence of the DPR and LPR, they tried to push these unfortunate republics of Donbass back into the massacre of Ukraine, then fenced off from them with a wall. Fortunately, it didn't work out. Literally from the very first days after the start of the SVO, when it became obvious that the “small and victorious” was not working, they began to consistently “merge” the special operation. The most prominent and public representative of this cohort can be called a billionaire, the former governor of Chukotka, and now the holder of Portuguese and Israeli passports Roman Abramovich.

Fortunately, not all of our "elite" is like that. I would like to mention a prominent Russian businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin, who created the Wagner PMC, which is most actively involved in the liberation of Donbass. Prigogine speaks extremely negatively about other domestic nouveaux riches:

I can’t remember exactly whether I visit Donbass or not. But I can say that there are a huge number of people in the country who have the same money, the same status, the same opportunities as me. And if each of these overweight cattle tears off his pink <...> from an easy chair on Rublyovka, then the country will be in complete harmony and security.

It is also necessary to note the active position of the head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, who publicly defends the national interests of Russia in a way that few people:

We won't stop anywhere. Our territory is not Zaporozhye, not Kherson. Our territory is Odessa, Kyiv, Kharkov. All regions and Ukraine as a whole is our territory, Russian.

Thus, there is also a split in the Russian "tops", which, in fact, in their mass turn out to be "white". Therefore, the most important is the position of President Putin, who should be above everyone and “rule everything”. Alas, the Kremlin has not yet been able to formulate any intelligible concept for the post-war future of Ukraine and Russia.

When asked how the NWO will end, the “voice of Putin”, spokesman Peskov, answered as follows:

Any confrontation ends in détente, and any crisis situations end at the negotiating table. So it will be this time.

Putin himself, in his keynote Valdai speech, actually abandoned the uncompromising war with the collective West to a victorious end:

Russia does not challenge the elites of the West - Russia simply defends its right to exist and develop freely. At the same time, we ourselves are not going to become some kind of new hegemon. Russia does not propose to replace unipolarity with bipolarity, tripolarity, and so on, the dominance of the West with the dominance of the East, North or South. This would inevitably lead to a new impasse.

The fact that our president is waiting for the reciprocal steps of the “Western partners” towards pacification, giving them the “decisive word”, instead of simply winning and dictating conditions himself, is evidenced by the following public statement:

Odessa can be a symbol of the solution to everything that is happening now. However, the leaders of the Kyiv regime decided not to continue negotiations with the Russian Federation. The decisive word belongs to those who implement this policies in Washington. It is very simple to solve the problem - to give an appropriate signal to Kyiv that they should change their position and strive to solve problems peacefully.

It is obvious that such a position runs counter to the aspirations of 70% of Russians who are waiting for a complete and unconditional victory over the Nazi regime in Kyiv, as well as to the views of "hawks" among our ruling "elite". Particularly depressing are the unambiguous “white” signals constantly sent by Putin personally to the “red” lower classes, who quote such extremely dubious historical characters as the ardent anti-Soviet philosopher Ivan Ilyin and the author of the falsely anti-Soviet libel “The Gulag Archipelago” Solzhenitsyn. The results of such a policy of Vladimir Vladimirovich can be the most regrettable.

Having turned from a “hawk” into a “white dove of peace”, he still will not gain the support of those 30% who are fundamentally against him, but he may lose the support of 70% of patriotic Russians who want victory over Ukrainian Nazism and will not forgive him “Minsk- 3". Considering the belligerence in the army and the National Guard, which are now fighting in Ukraine and suffering heavy losses, as well as the subversive activities of Western intelligence agencies, abandoning the war to a victorious end against the Kyiv regime in order to make peace with it before the presidential elections in 2024 could lead to the most unpredictable results.
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  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 8 November 2022 12: 55
    +6
    As they said - there is nothing more crafty than statistics, elections and polls ....
    According to statistics, SUDDENLY - an unprecedented increase in GDP and living standards ... was, recently:
    for elections -130% -99,9% in favour, especially remotely in favour.
    and according to polls - 70% support so much, so support that even 300 thousand salaries were not attracted to "volunteers", they had to accept criminals as mercenaries (Criminal, by the way), and carry out something, scold a large bunch of runaways .... simple

    Elite, they just wrote, with Shnur, they were still celebrating something in Dubai ...
  3. ja.net.1975 Offline ja.net.1975
    ja.net.1975 8 November 2022 13: 07
    +8
    it will end with what it started with - without war and peace, i.e. a little of ours the rest is yours...!
  4. Baba Yaga Offline Baba Yaga
    Baba Yaga (Baba Yaga) 8 November 2022 13: 17
    +9
    It is necessary to bring order to the Ministry of Defense!
    The deserving should be rewarded and the unsatisfied should be punished!!!
    Otherwise, there will be huge losses at the front !!!
    1. Ugr Offline Ugr
      Ugr 9 November 2022 11: 44
      -1
      Why there will be, they are, the losses are simply huge, in April the Ministry of Defense gave reports for two months of 19 thousand killed, then everything was classified and now they don’t say, so consider that seven months have passed and there were not enough people, mobilization began ...
  5. calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich (Dmitriy) 8 November 2022 14: 12
    +8
    the real backbone of Putin's regime

    Oh, how the author spoke ..
    From the very beginning, since 2014, dragging the Russian Federation into the war has been the main strategic plan of the West.
    When the Russian Federation began the NWO, everyone there embraced for joy - there are eloquent shots.
    Unfortunately, we did not have the opportunity to avoid this fight.
    Now, the main concern of this pack, still hoping to share our skin (and they have gone too far by investing in its prey in an unacceptably plentiful way for themselves) is that we do not fall off this hook. So that God forbid they did not agree. The more blood we shed, the more difficult it will be for us to live together later.
    The calculation for an anti-war split turned out to be overestimated for the West.
    The economic blockade did not take place.
    There is only one lever left with which they will try to overthrow us - the traditional contradiction between left and right ideology. At the same time, they are well aware that the main tool for social change is in the hands of the "right" - due to economic dominance in the current political system.
    It is obvious that they will be provoked to a coup in power, frightening them with mass actions of the left bottoms.
    In all troubled times, people who tried to find a consensus, to stop further disengagement, suffered the most.
    They tried to destroy both opposing camps, in the hope of getting everything without sharing power, resources, influence.
    How did it end? - most often a disaster for both sides.
    Hope it's not so bad nowmuddy the time.
    "Putin himself, in his programmatic Valdai speech, actually abandoned the uncompromising war with the collective West to a victorious end" -
    And how does the author see this very "victorious end" in the war against collective West? Establishing dominance over him, accepting their collective surrender, a military victory with tanks on the English Channel? These are utopias that are not even worth a theoretical analysis of their possibilities.
    The real threat is not in the existence of this "collective west" - it will always be in one form or another. The main threat is in internal vulnerability, lagging behind the spirit of the times. And this spirit is socialist. Neo-liberals are just trying to replace him with themselves, but the substitution is doomed to failure, with all the investments in Greta Tumberg, etc.
    Yes, all over the world, there is now a left turn in politics.
    There is a demand for socialist values.
    And we need too carefully turn. But without drifts and departures into a ditch. And such things are possible when, on sharp turns, they begin to struggle behind the wheel.
    And half of the bots here are only busy inflating distrust of the steers.
    1. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
      soloist2424 (Oleg) 8 November 2022 16: 57
      -1
      I agree.
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    3. SIT Offline SIT
      SIT (Stas) 9 November 2022 23: 18
      0
      Well, what are they steering? Where are they driving? Care ONLY about your own pocket. Stupid, greedy, petty cheapies. They would have to poke change in their pockets, and not play such games with the world's financial crooks. The scale is not the same.
    4. sap Offline sap
      sap (Alex) 13 November 2022 15: 14
      0
      To turn (even gently) towards socialism means that it is necessary to take away the billions stolen over 30 years of capitalism by the so-called elite, and this means 200 billion. Putin, do you think it's possible? Me not!
  6. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 8 November 2022 14: 17
    +12
    18% against SVO? it means it's time to evict them from the capital of the Russian Federation, let them go to their historical villages and kibbutzim. if they do not understand that those who are against the NWO, then they are for the genocide of Russians on the Russian land of Little Russia. and the point here is not whether you like Tsar Govorun or not, you are either for the Russians or against them (us), like the Sobchaks-Galkins and other children of Zion
    1. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 8 November 2022 14: 29
      +4
      Quote: 1_2
      18% against SVO? it means it's time to evict them from the capital of the Russian Federation, let them go to their historical villages and kibbutzim

      In the light of such sentiments,
      not everyone will openly declare that they even doubt it.
      So oh, don't believe in the sincerity of 70%.
      (even if they were counted honestly)

      Quote: calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich
      a military victory with tanks on the English Channel?

      take small.
      Red flag over the Capitol, and nothing else!
    2. Danila Ivanov Offline Danila Ivanov
      Danila Ivanov (Danila Ivanov) 10 November 2022 16: 53
      0
      Are you sure that 18% of those who are from villages? And on what basis to evict from honestly earned apartments for their opinion in a democratic country?
  7. Ivan Ivanych 68743684 (Sergei) 8 November 2022 14: 35
    +13
    so it will be, you can’t be a little pregnant, if you take it, bring it to the end, but together with the people who still support you, and all this treacherous riffraff that winds like a gnat near the throne must be neutralized as soon as possible in the toughest, or even cruel way, before it's too late, there's still some time
  8. Kuramori Reika Offline Kuramori Reika
    Kuramori Reika (Kuramori Reika) 8 November 2022 16: 13
    +12
    I am for the special operation itself, because I would not want NATO bases around me, but the way the high command and the commander in chief are waging this war, as well as the way the political bloc behaves, causes only disgust. I hope that after another couple of months of such a leapfrog, power will pass into the hands of the military, and the president himself will be put out on the street with things. Then no billions will help.
    1. i232323b Offline i232323b
      i232323b (Igor) 8 November 2022 21: 07
      +3
      Finns and Swedes few in NATO in the near future? And they could not be from the word at all. So who is the type of wise helmsman? The power of permanent old men, as at the end of the USSR.
    2. Dingo Offline Dingo
      Dingo (Victor) 8 November 2022 22: 23
      +6
      but the way the high command and the commander in chief are waging this war, as well as the way the political bloc behaves, causes only disgust.

      You don't have one. And here's what else I noticed. On all resources covering these events, both politically and militarily (liberalism does not count - they have different "values") - the epithet "shameful" very often slips through (shameful deal, shameful negotiations, shameful agreement, etc. . ).
      One gets the impression that the current oligarchic-clan power can offer nothing but war and shame. A sort of impotence, both military and political.
      As in that legend about King Midas, whom the gods punished for greed - he was tormented by thirst and hunger, but everything he touched turned into gold.
      So now. Everything that this power touches turns into war, disgrace, theft ...
  9. Oleg V. Offline Oleg V.
    Oleg V. (Oleg Vladimirovich) 8 November 2022 16: 31
    +3
    What to swear! Elite, elite. Hey, elite: "Here is your family while you stay with us. While you work for the good of the country - they are alive, healthy, dressed, shod. If you want to change - everyone will die." This is how the Bolsheviks forced military experts to work for themselves. Now about 30%. From 1940 to 1945, up to 1,5 million citizens of the USSR served in parts of the Wehrmacht. And we will also count those who sat out (did not work, namely, sat out), and also the policemen. Well, the Germans killed some of these without understanding. So history repeats itself. At 41-45, our grandfathers passed the test, now it's our turn.
  10. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 8 November 2022 18: 02
    +3
    The VTsIOM data can be taken as real because, as an approximation, they reflect the class composition of the Russian Federation - capitalist entrepreneurs, employees, proletarians.
    The answer to the question why the SVO turned from a “small and victorious” into a difficult bloody war should be sought in the history of the USSR, the Yeltsin coup and the restoration of capitalism in post-Soviet state formations, in which, after the division of former public property, a national bourgeoisie was formed, which led to a revision of history and isolation from RF.
    After the collapse of the USSR and the restoration of capitalism, class ideology and solidarity were actually equated with a crime, a national and regional bourgeoisie formed in the republics and regions, which led to a civil war and attempts to secede from Chechnya, Tatarstan, the Far East, the Urals, Kaliningrad and other regions. Ethnic relations became aggravated, and a huge economic gulf lay between the oppressors and the oppressed. VV Putin got state education in a state of clinical death, corroded by class and national worms, the convulsions of which were closely watched by a flock of scavengers in the desire to profit and tear off a piece according to their strength.
    V.V. Putin created a political party and passed the most important legislative acts on entrepreneurial activity, lending, taxation, pricing and a host of others, which put big capital under state control and strengthened the economy, and in order to smooth out class contradictions, he abandoned the ideology that always wears a class character, and the Constitution of 2022 introduced an official ban on ideology, replacing it with the thesis of saving people by A.I. Solzhenitsyn and the policy of social responsibility of the oppressors.
    As a result, the Russian Federation turned out to be ideologically unarmed, and the sanctions policy of the West causes great damage to big capital and undermines the balance of interests between government and capital, and social stability.
    The longer the SVO continues, the more internal contradictions will manifest themselves, and primarily for economic reasons - the reduction of external markets for big capital and, as a result, the reduction in profits and deductions for the maintenance of the oppressed, leads to social instability raised to the level of a national question.
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 8 November 2022 19: 28
      +8
      Initially, the Russian Federation was created by Chubais and Gaidars, under the dictation of specialists from the United States, a resource colony with cosmopolitans - billionaires on resources and the rest of the poor. Here, according to criminal laws, their own for the Chubais and Gaidars, the Israelis, became billionaires. We have colonial rule with overseers of resources in the highest positions. After the arrival of the GDP, nothing has changed, several foreign billionaires have pressed (Khodorkovsky, etc.) introduced new ones - the Rotenbergs, etc. no, but you hold on" - lies in the eyes of the people, because there are hundreds of billions of US dollars in the accounts of the state. The president's numerous promises have not been completely fulfilled. This situation has redistributions, so the NWO will probably become the cause of change. Now you begin to understand that CBO and such performance seem to be a special push for riots and splits. But it is possible for Russia to get out of the created colonial-enslaved state with the overthrow of the parasitic corruption-oligarchic superstructure.
  11. ZnahWest Offline ZnahWest
    ZnahWest (Ingvar b) 8 November 2022 18: 17
    +8
    If they don’t bring it to victory (and this is at least Odessa, Kharkov), then this will not end in anything good for the authorities. Everything reminds me of 1918...
    1. Mobius Offline Mobius
      Mobius 8 November 2022 21: 06
      +4
      Quote from ZnahWest
      Everything reminds me of 1918...

      Precisely -1918?
  12. svit55 Offline svit55
    svit55 (Sergey Valentinovich) 8 November 2022 21: 11
    +4
    Putin is certainly a historical figure, but he has already baked. If the "elite" is against it, this is Putin's miscalculation, which means that he does not control the political situation at the top, and it is time for him to write his memoirs on the way out. The biggest mistake is the Shoigu-Gerasimov connection. But how do you get rid of your friends? Here we will contemplate this burden.
  13. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 8 November 2022 21: 46
    0
    that such a position runs counter to the aspirations of 70% of Russians who are waiting for a complete and unconditional victory over the Nazi regime in Kyiv, as well as to the views of "hawks" among our ruling "elite".

    All this division into white-red, tops-bottoms is extremely conditional. 70% of Russians support NWO? Nope. Supported by 70% of Russians surveyedand those are two big differences. What is the sample in these surveys? What is the representativeness? Finally, do you believe VCIOM? Do you trust Rosstat?
    In my opinion, all these numbers (and the above words) are empty, like an overripe radish.
  14. Rinat Offline Rinat
    Rinat (Rinat) 9 November 2022 06: 52
    +1
    Marzhetsky saw Minsk-3. And it is not entirely clear whether he is happy about it or not. And this opus too. It seems to be right about the split of the elites and fluctuations in society as a whole. About the confrontation, as in the Great Patriotic War with the collective West. So, draw a conclusion on how the country's top leadership should behave under these conditions. After all, figuratively speaking, in modern Russia there has not yet been a purge of the elite like in 1937. Now its ranks are full of not conditional, but specific enemies of the great Russian people. So it turns out that this purge is happening right now, only in a very magical way. This fucking elite is being put on the hook and the force of circumstances leads them to make a choice. While voluntary. Then, I hope, there will be a demand to choose the side of the confrontation. Vladimir Putin gives more time to determine the choice. And with his words and actions, he pushes everyone to make a choice, the choice of a side before the decisive battle.
    And this is what Marzhetsky does not see.
    1. Dingo Offline Dingo
      Dingo (Victor) 9 November 2022 13: 46
      +2
      And this is what Marzhetsky does not see.

      This is seen not only by Marzhetsky - it is seen by any little-minded person. Another thing is that speaking, and even more so publicly, is "not welcome" in today's Russia, to put it mildly.
      Too often, Putin's words are at odds with his deeds. So often that it is already impossible to understand - where he is simply lying (...I don’t see landings ..), where he simply “plays for the audience” ... How such “games”, or rather, flirting, end - I think you yourself know .
      And leaving such a comment, you only confirm this. "Agreement" with the oligarchic-clan "elite", concerned only with the preservation of the "overwork stolen" and frozen by their "partners" (with rare exceptions, such as, for example, Prigozhin - who created and finances Wagner - read how he speaks of them , about this "elite". Disgusting - the mildest expression) will not lead to anything good. For Russia, as a state - definitely.
    2. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 9 November 2022 15: 10
      -4
      RinatI liked your nice comment. And on Dingo never mind. Wild dog, what else can you say. smile
    3. sap Offline sap
      sap (Alex) 13 November 2022 15: 53
      0
      Vladimir Putin gives more time to determine the choice.

      Allowing, having run away abroad with the stolen money, to sit and think, and not to return after the reconciliation and grab some more?!
      Oversleep dear! The author sees everything and is afraid to say everything, no one has canceled the articles of the Criminal Code about intent! Platoshkin will not let you lie.
  15. depavel Offline depavel
    depavel (Pavel Pavlovich) 9 November 2022 07: 24
    +2
    There are fundamental laws, mathematics, for example, are there any statistics of surveys on the application of the laws of mathematics, there was and is not a 3:1 ratio in the army! Faced with the question of what to do with money, there is no national money! That is, who with money is the owner of our business, our bureaucracy. Like it or not, that the people and the army are united, but the army has faith, but the government for the most part does not. Or do we not have the Fed in the government, represented by Siluanov, Nabiullina? Not bad work for the owner!
  16. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 9 November 2022 09: 32
    +3
    The white top is the majority of the power and business elite, all the millionaires and billionaires who do not care about the country, only to keep, and even better, return the money acquired by overwork. The old division into a handful of the super-rich and the poor as a whole. GDP cannot yet say anything about the position, since there are only whites around it, and it does not see reds (Zyuganovites are not reds).
  17. Olga Taschilina Offline Olga Taschilina
    Olga Taschilina (Olga Taschilina) 9 November 2022 10: 59
    +1
    Putin will have to bring this war to a victorious end, whether he likes it or not. And then exchange through referendums with Romania for Moldova and Transnistria, giving the Chernivtsi region. From Poland to Lvov and Ivano-Frankivsk, taking in return the Polish border with Kaliningrad and Belarus. Return Transcarpathia to Hungary. In return for what, there is. At least for the recipe for making sherry. But he will have to conquer the entire territory and Zelensky's bug will have to be crushed along with his bug. Not only Russian mothers cry. Let the mothers who gave birth to all these freaks, Zelensky, Arestovich, Arakhamia, Kuleba, Reznik, and other Nazi rabble, also cry.
    1. Dingo Offline Dingo
      Dingo (Victor) 9 November 2022 15: 02
      0
      From Poland to Lviv and Ivano-Frankivsk

      Olga, what do you know about these areas specifically and about the "Western" in particular?
      My classmate served near Ivano-Frankivsk, in the then Soviet army, urgent. Mechvodom BMP (DMB 77-79). Corresponded (he is a spring draft, I am an autumn one). The conversation turned to leave (I served in the air defense, in the Vologda region. Where to go there - except perhaps to the wolves in the forest).
      What he answered me - “Vit, yes, they don’t let us go anywhere either. The political officer says that they should return us home alive. And all because of these“ Frenchies ”. (mat), insane..."
      I did not understand then what he was talking about. Then I forgot. This topic was not advertised in the USSR, it was even taboo.
      Just type in the search engine of any browser this word - "French" ... A lot will become clear (it's better in Google search. There is little in Yandex, almost everything is "overwritten").
  18. Panzer1962 Offline Panzer1962
    Panzer1962 (Panzer1962) 9 November 2022 12: 00
    +3
    She hopes for Ellochka Pamfilova in 2024 that she will “draw” the required percentages, that “it doesn’t matter how they vote, the main thing is how they think.” That's just the people and the army can no longer forgive the agreement in the name of saving the capitals located in the West and the real estate of the people pleasant to the guarantor. And stand up.
    Of course, some of the guards will try to stand up in defense of their idol-idol, but if the army and the National Guard, embittered by the betrayal of their victims, take a step to the side, they say, figure it out among themselves, then the people embittered by betrayal and senseless victims can simply trample the guards in jam on the asphalt.
    I really don't want that kind of scenario. But the irrepressible desire of the guarantor to please the people he likes, who openly harm Russia in the name of their foreign assets, can lead to an explosion.
    And eat a fish and not sit on a stake, as the people say about such a policy. But it never led to anything good.
  19. Watching Offline Watching
    Watching (Alex) 9 November 2022 12: 17
    +1
    Solzhenitsyn, the author of the falsely anti-Soviet libel "Gulag Archipelago" through and through.

    I fully agree with this assessment of the Solzhenitsensky sabotage, I agree now, and I agreed then, during the hype around that scribbling. They did not give bonuses to their own dissident Solzhenitsyn, Assange, but put him in a very dark place, from where he would probably never come out alive. Shame and disgrace to the Russian (Jewish) "elite". And a huge disappointment in the president.
  20. Yaroslav the Wise (Yaroslav the Wise) 9 November 2022 12: 36
    +3
    So I, as a "doubter", want to understand, do we (in particular, I) need this CBO? What do we have with her? Why are our men dying? If for the fact that our generals could continue to rob their own Army, instead of raising its level of combat readiness, then I am against the NWO. If it is simply because of the political ambitions of the leadership of our country, then I am also against it. If for someone to cash in on those mobilized by raising prices for the necessary uniforms, with the full connivance of the authorities - and here I am against the NWO. And if those 70% also begin to think about these issues (and sooner or later it will happen anyway), then little will remain of these 70%
  21. Sergeant of the Soviet Army (Alexander) 9 November 2022 13: 09
    -1
    Well, the author certainly expressed his point of view. Everyone who reads this article will interpret it in their own way. I belong to those 70% who support the NWO, of course we have pitfalls in politics, in the army, and in the social sphere. Where are they not? Name me a country where there are no such problems? However, we do not cave in to Western "values" that despise and humiliate a normal person, while at the same time extolling all sorts of perverts. I am proud that I am RUSSIAN! I don’t give a damn about my MOTHERLAND, I love it no matter what it is. Yes, some actions of our president, to put it mildly, do not always meet our expectations, but he is a person, like all of us. Each of us has made and is making mistakes in life, including fatal ones, but we think only for ourselves, and Putin thinks for the whole country, and in terms of size, this is not Switzerland, and not Denmark. Suffice it to recall what happened after the collapse of the Soviet Union, when Yeltsin and others like him drove the country to the grave, when the whole world, and the Americans in the first place, wiped their feet on Russia. When the old people were not paid pensions, and the state employees and the military were not paid salaries, when it was scary to go out into the street. Putin undoubtedly raised the country from the ruins, and for this alone he must be thanked.
  22. Dingo Offline Dingo
    Dingo (Victor) 9 November 2022 14: 19
    +1
    No matter how the mother of this "Kolya from Urengoy" said that "... he was not understood correctly ..." - yes, we all understood correctly. With this, everything is clear.
    But who sent him there, who financed, who and what he taught at school (hello "lap dog"), who edited the speech of this schoolboy - is another question. So who are they?

  23. goncharov.62 Offline goncharov.62
    goncharov.62 (Andrei) 9 November 2022 20: 54
    +1
    Without a direct conversation between the hero, the Darkest One, with the people, the recognition of YOUR mistakes, the Real Program of Action, a specific breakdown of the neoliberal economic and financial system - expect another riot. (The Russian Guard is already ...), yes, and don't forget to put a bridle on Ksyushad. and her maman (and others like them), proudly serving as a senator according to concepts and laying her penis on the puny smile of the Guarantor ...
  24. goncharov.62 Offline goncharov.62
    goncharov.62 (Andrei) 9 November 2022 21: 06
    +2
    And what about the "victorious end" when Russia cannot defend its own? Or are selfish interests closer, which have a gesheft from a piece of iron, oil, and so on? You already decide - with whom you are?! Well, as a result of the session - I will decide who I vote for...
  25. Event Observer Offline Event Observer
    Event Observer (Oleg T) 10 November 2022 01: 21
    +1
    It is necessary to drive into the neck of these all, without exception, nouveaux riches, newly rich thieves, scoundrels and swindlers. 30 years is enough.
    The people will defend only their own, socialist homeland.
    Our leaders are still looking for a compromise. Marketism for crooks and "businessmen", and patriotism for the common people.
  26. Down Offline Down
    Down (Etwas) 10 November 2022 12: 23
    +2
    Quote: calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich
    Oh, how the author spoke ..
    From the very beginning, since 2014, dragging the Russian Federation into the war has been the main strategic plan of the West.
    When the Russian Federation began the NWO, everyone there embraced for joy - there are eloquent shots.
    Unfortunately, we did not have the opportunity to avoid this fight.

    Only the dead have no choice; everyone else actually has one, there is no need to repeat stupid statements. If someone, due to their inability, stupidity, short-sightedness, brought to such a situation, this does not mean. that there was no choice.
  27. Down Offline Down
    Down (Etwas) 10 November 2022 12: 30
    +1
    Quote from Olga Taschilina
    Putin will have to bring this war to a victorious end

    Thoughts of the ruler are inaccessible to us, you probably know more.
  28. Down Offline Down
    Down (Etwas) 10 November 2022 12: 37
    -1
    Quote: Rinat
    And this is what Marzhetsky does not see.

    He does not see for the reason that a raven will not peck out a crow's eye, there are disagreements, but there is also a unifying and surrendering second outweighs. There is a saying in Russian, a well-fed hungry one is not a friend, but a showdown goes on among the well-fed, right. that there is no contradiction. The same Prigozhin will speak in a completely different way if something threatens his capital.
  29. sapper2 Offline sapper2
    sapper2 (Minesweeper2) 10 November 2022 19: 34
    +2
    And war and shame ... what could be sadder for the country and the people .... You can’t fight, you don’t deserve your statehood, country and the right to be called "Russia"
  30. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Alexander) 11 November 2022 12: 38
    +2
    In general, the conclusion is obvious ... One way or another, all this will end badly, and for everyone .... because historically, every defeat in a war in Russia ends in a revolution ... and with these .... victory is getting farther ... It looks like the best what Putin can do now is to retire by appointing acting. the President of the Russian Federation Prigozhin, or even Kadyrov ... because his agreements and multi-movements are only to the detriment of the Russian Federation ... I'm not talking about the grief of economists, through whose fault the lion's share of her money ended up in the hands of the enemies of the Russian Federation ... Dachas in London are completely deprived Rublev's boobies of the ability to think sensibly ....
  31. Ibuprofen Offline Ibuprofen
    Ibuprofen (Novel) 13 November 2022 16: 18
    +1
    VTsIOM polls are incorrect. Only those who are "for" answer them, and those who are "against" modestly keep quiet. They just say "I won't answer". Fear. In reality, it seems to me that 30 percent support it, and that is mainly the older generation that watches TV.
  32. Norma51 Offline Norma51
    Norma51 (Nick) 13 November 2022 17: 25
    +1
    I'm very sorry, but who are we white people?
    Is Abramovich white?
    Or maybe it's Chubais, Fridman, Alekperov, Potanin, Siluanov, Kudrin, Gref, Nabiullina, etc., etc.? Or maybe it's Berezovsky and Gaidar who have already cooled down?
    Are they white? Author, you have political color blindness.
    No, all our Yeltsinists and Putinists are pale orange, corpse purple, star-striped.