It became known about the difficult situation in the Ugledar direction


October 29 RF Armed Forces Have begun offensive in the Southern Donbass, moving towards the city of Vuhledar, which occupies a strategic position in this area. Now it became known about the difficult situation in which the units of the Russian troops found themselves in this direction.


It should be noted that on the morning of that day brigade commander Alexander Khodakovsky mentioned in his Telegram channel that he considers the decision to advance in the Ugledar direction premature, but hopes for success. On November 3, he said that from his silence it should be clear that there was nothing special to write. Moreover, the village of Pavlovka, which is located in front of Ugledar, is turning into a problematic place well shot by the enemy, although the RF Armed Forces continue to stubbornly “gnaw” the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine “from opornik to opornik”.

On November 6, military commander of the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company Alexander Sladkov made an announcement on his Telegram channel about the difficult situation in Pavlovka. He explained that the servicemen of the 155th separate brigade of "marines" of the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Navy wrote a letter to the Governor of Primorsky Territory Oleg Kozhemyako, asking him to apply on their behalf to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation so that the department would urgently respond.

It is said: big losses, the inability to convey to the top management information about our high useless losses in people and in technology. I have the numbers, but then it's up to the Prosecutor General's Office. <...> There are three loud names in the letter, I know, but I don’t quote. However, I’m publishing the post myself, because they’ve been talking upstairs about the situation in Pavlovka for several days, and the blood keeps pouring and pouring

- said Sladkov.

10 seconds after this publication, the WarGonzo project responded, which confirmed that "everything is bad in Pavlovka."

The first joy from the fact that the Donbass special forces of the OBTF and the Cascade went there was replaced by extremely depressing news about the situation of the 155th brigade of the Pacific Fleet. Khodakovsky openly runs into those who planned the operation (so far without names). A colleague and our military “father” Sladkov reports painful losses and the appeal of “marines” from the 155th to the leadership of the Moscow Region. We are waiting for specifics and organizational conclusions

says the WarGonzo text.

For the sake of objectivity, it should be added that Khodakovsky also reacted to Sladkov's announcement. He wrote bitterly about the loss of a whole generation of specialists who, in his opinion, should form the basis of the military vertical of command.

This is some kind of inter-time, when the Soviet has gone, but the Russian has not come, but a career, income, pride, conceit remain ... A lot of pretentious toasts to the Motherland ... and emptiness. Alexander Sladkov posted a publication about the state of affairs in Pavlovka - sadly. Still, the hope in me for a better outcome lost out to a sober understanding of the prospects, which I expressed in a stingy formulation: I consider the offensive to be premature. And the point here is not in Pavlovka, where we ended up in a fire bag and suffer losses, but in an approach that is typical for most representatives of this “lost generation”

- summed up Khodakovsky.

Note that at the time of the release of this material, there were no official clarifications from the Russian Ministry of Defense on the above issue.
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  1. Mobius Offline Mobius
    Mobius 6 November 2022 20: 10
    +8
    A related statement, the names of two alleged perpetrators of the current situation are named:

    Let's talk about responsibility.

    Against the backdrop of publications from many famous people, now everyone knows about what is happening near Pavlovka. We will not repeat ourselves. Let us just recall that about a month and a half ago, on the eve of the announcement of partial mobilization, we, at the suggestion of military commander Filatov, raised the issue that, against the background of tougher penalties for military personnel for voluntary surrender and failure to comply with orders in wartime, there were still no provisions for absolutely no separate responsibility for commanders for their mistakes, tyranny, senseless suicide attacks without reconnaissance and support. And so, we have witnessed the fruits of that irresponsibility.

    More recently, several waves of criticism of comrade Lapin overwhelmed telegrams, who, following the results of media clashes, got off with a “statement of his own.” However, no other names were publicly named, and as we assumed, the colonel-general acted as an extreme valve for venting the steam of accumulated popular anger. And now, for the tyranny and incompetence of the command, the organization of the offensive in the conditions of the superiority of the enemy and the lack of their own artillery, ordinary marines are paying with blood.

    Therefore, it is time to name the next names of two hereditary degenerals - Akhmedov and Muradov. For these comrades and their patrons, I would like to remind you that history must be able not only to write, but it would also be nice to read it carefully. Since quite recently, by the standards of the era, the country was already captured by a wave of merciless popular revolt, one of the reasons for which was the bestial attitude towards people in the war. It was necessary to understand this even at the moment when the special operation left the format of a distant football match and, together with mobilization, transformed into a truly popular event that cannot be hidden behind bravura briefings.

    @milinfolive

    https://t.me/milinfolive/92978
    1. Mobius Offline Mobius
      Mobius 6 November 2022 20: 14
      +12
      Note that at the time of the release of this material, there were no official clarifications from the Russian Ministry of Defense on the above issue.

      They quieted down like ... (There are many epithets, everyone will pick up their own, the most capacious)
      They quieted down, just like during the "optimization" near Kharkov.
      Something will mumble. Gathering with spirit...
      1. zuuukoo Offline zuuukoo
        zuuukoo (Sergei) 6 November 2022 21: 28
        +13
        Quote: Möbius
        A related statement, the names of two alleged perpetrators of the current situation are named

        Who is to blame found.
        It remains to understand what to do.

        Only deal not in two specific surnames. The problem is in the system itself. Built, as the last 8 months have shown, on window dressing, kickbacks and eyewash.
        1. Mobius Offline Mobius
          Mobius 6 November 2022 22: 09
          +13
          Quote from: zuuukoo
          Who is to blame found.
          It remains to understand what to do.

          Only deal not in two specific surnames. The problem is in the system itself. Built, as the last 8 months have shown, on window dressing, kickbacks and eyewash.

          I know who created it.
          1. tkot973 Offline tkot973
            tkot973 (Konstantin) 7 November 2022 02: 06
            +7
            Only one person could create this system. More precisely, not to create, but to continue to cultivate it on an exaggerated scale, since it was already created before him.
          2. syndicalist Offline syndicalist
            syndicalist (Dimon) 7 November 2022 08: 56
            -1
            This is the answer to the question: "What to do?"?
            1. tkot973 Offline tkot973
              tkot973 (Konstantin) 7 November 2022 13: 10
              +5
              Unfortunately, neither you nor we can do anything. Time is gone.
              Now write in the forums what you want, well, or almost what you want, and at least hit the keys to the calluses. No one is interested or needed, the people are amorphous. But if suddenly among these lovers there are keys, i.e. among us, there will be a real, capable of doing something, an individual with the rudiments of a leader and the ability to really change something, and will begin to rally people around him, then the authorities will show interest in him. And the individual will receive a ticket, but not in life, but a little further away.
              p/s. The rulers of our state keep their finger on the pulse very clearly, and it is quite easy to be among the Navalnys in certain cases.
              1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 November 2022 10: 17
                0
                Unfortunately, neither you nor we can do anything. Time is gone.

                ... Cover yourself with a sheet and crawl to the cemetery. Or are you writing this not from Russia?
                How will you explain to your children and loved ones this choice you made for yourself and for them? This is not a computer game - not Putin will have to die, but you, and for real.
                The one who can change everything probably looks around him - with people like you, if the whole country is "you" - he will do nothing
                1. tkot973 Offline tkot973
                  tkot973 (Konstantin) 8 November 2022 12: 02
                  0
                  Alexey, you are a smart person, you yourself understand everything perfectly as well as I do, and maybe something better. If you want to discuss, let's leave in private messages.
                  1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 November 2022 18: 12
                    0
                    Personally, I have nothing to say to you.
                    All I can say is that I write here and on my channel “Future Russia” in Zen.
                    As for everyone, I remember the phrase from the movie Terminator 2 - "There is no future" and the answer to it in the same film - "We create the future ourselves."
                    Taking into account our Russian mentality, I will add that no one will bring it to us on a silver platter.
                    It is foolish to start fighting for your own life and future, being already on the threshold of the gas chamber, or in an attack on machine guns with barrage fire in the back. While we are not there yet, and we have a country, we can fight for its vitality, and our victory over the main enemy.
                    Russia has always gathered its forces, being on the very edge, so for us everything is just beginning. You should not hang out in a virtual zombie cheat.
                    The time has come not to speak, but to do
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            2. Mobius Offline Mobius
              Mobius 7 November 2022 18: 50
              +4
              Quote: syndicalist
              This is the answer to the question: "What to do?"?

              In your opinion, in Russia in general, at least someone was able to answer this age-old question?
  2. Leonn Offline Leonn
    Leonn (J) 6 November 2022 20: 42
    +2
    The 155th brigade is a guards brigade, i.e. elite
    1. Mobius Offline Mobius
      Mobius 6 November 2022 21: 18
      +10
      Quote from leon
      The 155th brigade is a guards brigade, i.e. elite

      Morpechi already by the type of troops - the elite. And if there are also guardsmen ...
      It is scary to assume what is happening in other, "easier" divisions, if marines out of desperation, the situation turns to the MO, which does not want to hear them.
  3. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 6 November 2022 20: 45
    +12
    If we had aviation, this would not be! The bad guys rule!
    1. Mobius Offline Mobius
      Mobius 6 November 2022 21: 11
      +11
      Quote: steel maker
      If we had aviation, this would not be! The bad guys rule!

      There is aviation. There are no brains and conscience.

      And they also talk about the insufficiency of the artillery forces planned for use in the offensive in Pavlovka.
    2. tkot973 Offline tkot973
      tkot973 (Konstantin) 7 November 2022 02: 09
      +4
      If we had aviation, then a priori there would not be these mediocrity.
  4. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 6 November 2022 21: 39
    +12
    These are the fruits of the Putin-Serdyukov reform of 2008-2020. There is a lot of information about it on the Internet.
    It was not Serdyukov who smashed our armed forces, but Putin with his hands. It was he who chose him, gave him a task and controlled its implementation.
    I then read about the tears of the old-school generals, who were "spied" in the corridors of the Moscow Region by girls in high heels, hired by the new minister to defeat the department.
    People and traditions went under the root. The very organizational structure of the army has changed. Regiments and divisions were abolished - the basis of its structure, on which the experience of the victories of Russia and the USSR was built for centuries. The entire array of operational and strategic plans previously worked out by the country, the education and military experience of senior officers was based on the same structure. This entire foundation has turned into waste paper, and no one has probably worked out a new one - there is no one else. This could be considered criminal stupidity, but Putin does not fit this definition. Rather, this is a betrayal, inherited from Yeltsin - a puppet of the States, like Zelensky
    1. syndicalist Offline syndicalist
      syndicalist (Dimon) 7 November 2022 09: 04
      +2
      Calm down already with Serdyukov! 10 years as he is out of work. And, as it turns out now, the current one made a sausage 10 times more abruptly than the stool.
      It’s just touching naivets who are still blaming either the 90s, or Serdyukov, or hell knows who else.
      10 years after the Great Patriotic War, there were no traces of it left in the country. On the contrary, the country has incredibly revived and strengthened. And this is with incomparable losses and destruction.
    2. Dingo Offline Dingo
      Dingo (Victor) 7 November 2022 11: 16
      +8
      I then read about the tears of the old-school generals, who were "spied" in the corridors of the Moscow Region by girls in high heels, hired by the new minister to defeat the department.

      This is a harem, that is, the "personal guard" of a foreman with a construction education, who has not served in the army for a single day.

      The very organizational structure of the army has changed. Regiments and divisions were abolished - the basis of its structure,

      Not only. "Taburetkin" also disbanded the Gorky, Rzhevsky, Yaroslavl air defense corps. Corps!!! And these are aviation regiments of the IA, brigades of the ZRV, brigades of the RTV (I don’t know what he did with the air defense system, which was part of the Leningrad army).
      As for the Yaroslavl Corps, where I myself served, I can say for sure.
      The 79th Guards Brigade of the ZRV (Cherepovets), the 6th Red Banner Brigade of the RTV (Yaroslavl) Air Regiment of the IA (Tunoshna) were disbanded.
      It was this corps that carried out the task of searching for methods of combating cruise missiles (KR "Tomahawk") deployed by partners of the current Russian government in Western Europe (for us then - a "probable enemy") at the training ground in Sary-Shagan (Kazakhstan) - "Dal -78 "and" Soyuz-79 "(each for six months, from spring to late autumn) with all the means available at that time. Major General Akchurin lived with us at the position, though not in a tent, but in his kung.
      And we found this "antidote drug" ...
      Ground launches, launches from carriers, guidance of fighters in the forward hemisphere, in the rear hemisphere, control center for air defense missiles ... in conditions of active and passive interference ...
      Yes, not everything went well at first. The pilots left guidance a couple of times, swearing on the air (Yakhta-6, sorry, brother - well, I didn’t see you in the “locals”, I was extrapolating ...). At 400 meters of altitude and a speed of 1,5 MAX, "smear" it over the steppe for me, on the nearest hill - at a time ...
      I will not forget the words of A.I. Koldunov, Commander-in-Chief of Air Defense, Marshal of Aviation (we also "led" his helicopter to our position from the 20th site) -

      They did a good job, guys .. Great job. Thank you guys. Not only from the command, the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff - from me personally, thank you ...

      He shook hands - with me, a conscript sergeant, an ACS operator of the 1st class, with the guys - the operators of my calculation ...
      This is then the Soviet army. Then the "furniture maker Taburetkin" came ... and the building is no more. Bottom line - here it is...
  5. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 6 November 2022 23: 52
    +8
    Here is an article about a situation similar to sabotage with the organization of defense in Sevastopol. Also, practically - a cry of despair https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/351350/?utm_source=warfiles.ru
    The situation with hitherto unstopped deliveries of arms to Ukraine was only the beginning of the discovery of the enemy's subversive activities in the leadership of the operation, and the country as a whole.
    There is more and more such data, and they add up to the system. The war becomes the "moment of truth" and makes visible what has long been hidden from people's eyes
    1. Alex Smirnov Offline Alex Smirnov
      Alex Smirnov 7 November 2022 00: 16
      +5
      I don’t understand what, or who, is still preventing us from hitting the arms supply routes to Ukraine? You don't even see an attempt! And why, from these unstopped supplies, should our guys die?
  6. Kapany3 Offline Kapany3
    Kapany3 7 November 2022 00: 26
    -7
    Quote from: zuuukoo
    Quote: Möbius
    A related statement, the names of two alleged perpetrators of the current situation are named

    Who is to blame found.
    It remains to understand what to do.

    Only deal not in two specific surnames. The problem is in the system itself. Built, as the last 8 months have shown, on window dressing, kickbacks and eyewash.

    Tell us more about kickbacks or are you also a talker? If the facts are known, why are you silent? Or is farting in the barrel the most important thing?
    1. Pavel N Offline Pavel N
      Pavel N (Paul) 7 November 2022 14: 11
      -5
      On this topic, it’s full here - full of provocateurs ... alas
  7. In passing Offline In passing
    In passing (Galina Rožkova) 7 November 2022 00: 29
    +3
    Nothing personal, just business. Uh, agreements, voluntary gestures. How much is a person's life worth?
    1. Mobius Offline Mobius
      Mobius 7 November 2022 08: 32
      +4
      Quote: In passing
      Nothing personal, just business. Uh, agreements, voluntary gestures. How much is a person's life worth?

      3 000 000 ₱
      1. Mobius Offline Mobius
        Mobius 7 November 2022 18: 57
        +4
        Quote: In passing
        How much is a person's life worth?

        Quote: Möbius
        3 000 000 ₱

        I'm sorry, I made a mistake - 5 000 000
  8. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 7 November 2022 00: 38
    -6
    perhaps the SBU concocted this letter, and then posted it through their (like Russian) carts, and our journalists a la Malakhov, greedy for such "fried" news, quickly smashed it on their carts, like the covid virus or HIV

    The text of the letter was posted by the Telegram channel "Greyzone", it was reposted by Yuriy Podolyaka ("The world is today with "Yuri Podolyak""), "Voyenkor Kitten Z" and other major Telegram channels...

    https://proslo.ru/pismo-ot-bojcov-155-oj-brigady-morskoj-pehoty-situacija-v-pavlovke/
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 November 2022 10: 51
      0
      Here is an explanatory post. Everything is confirmed.
      https://topwar.ru/204635-tak-chto-tam-v-pavlovke-o-pisme-morpehov-gubernatoru-primorja.html
  9. Alex D Offline Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 7 November 2022 06: 36
    +3
    The liberal pro-Western leadership of the ghouls tried here too.
  10. Alex D Offline Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 7 November 2022 06: 40
    +3
    Quote: Alexey Davydov
    Here is an article about a situation similar to sabotage with the organization of defense in Sevastopol. Also, practically - a cry of despair https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/351350/?utm_source=warfiles.ru
    The situation with hitherto unstopped deliveries of arms to Ukraine was only the beginning of the discovery of the enemy's subversive activities in the leadership of the operation, and the country as a whole.
    There is more and more such data, and they add up to the system. The war becomes the "moment of truth" and makes visible what has long been hidden from people's eyes

    Our country was handed over to the enemy and the enemy is still in Moscow. Until now, there has been no trial of the scum responsible for the execution of the Parliament in 1993. Our country was occupied by organized crime groups tied to the West - in fact, colonial managers.
  11. Alexander Popov Offline Alexander Popov
    Alexander Popov (Alexander Popov) 7 November 2022 08: 03
    +9
    Well, where is the legendary Surovikin?
    Why can't he get information about the current unfavorable situation near Ugledar?
    1. Dingo Offline Dingo
      Dingo (Victor) 7 November 2022 09: 06
      +6
      Alexander, Surovikin is also "under someone". A fish, as you know, rots from the head.
  12. Khodorkovsky is not a military man, but a civilian click-operator provocateur, to his zone!
    1. kot711 Offline kot711
      kot711 (vov) 7 November 2022 12: 29
      +1
      You can see the brains are rusty-Khodokovsky, has been fighting since the age of 14. And here is Khodorkovsky, a friend of many current top officials.
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  14. Alexander Ponamarev (Alexander Ponamarev) 7 November 2022 16: 07
    0
    Today at 19:00 on Russian radio I heard that the Ministry of Defense denied the report about the losses of marines of the Pacific Fleet ....... Who is lying!?!?!?
  15. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 7 November 2022 16: 52
    +3
    Now it became known about the difficult situation in which the units of the Russian troops found themselves in this direction.

    Everything is very similar to the truth. The entire course of the SVO leads to this conclusion.
    In the Ministry of Defense, in the General Staff of the Russian Federation, protectionists and crooks have taken positions. There are no military specialists there! Not at all! Anyone: thieves, traitors, lackeys with epaulettes - there are, but there are no military men there.
    Putin (an intelligence officer, according to the legend of the West) is easily deceived. Make a cartoon, more fire in front of the podium at the exercises, report beautifully, walk around exhibitions with prototype weapons - that's all! I never bothered to check or calculate.
    But even now, in the face of the threat of a shameful defeat from the world trash gathered in Ukraine, he does not draw any conclusions. Everything is according to plan, we have not started yet, we are ready to talk, etc.
    If every mistake, betrayal, has a name and surname, then the people of Russia know it!
    1. Vladimir Daetoya (Vladimir Daetoya) 7 November 2022 19: 07
      +2
      Putin (an intelligence officer, according to the legend of the West) is easily deceived.

      Yes, he would be happy to deceive himself. Remember at least how he dived for an amphora in the Black Sea. it shows him as a person right through and through. Of course, this is only one feature of his character, but right now it is manifesting itself, in the war.
  16. Vladimir Daetoya (Vladimir Daetoya) 7 November 2022 19: 00
    +1
    It seems that the generals in their mo did not even engage in self-education. And they didn’t engage in exercises in which they would give an assessment not to the army, but to themselves, so that fools could be pushed aside, but talented ones could be identified. War is bloodshed, but at the command level, this is the most creative thing that can be - it saves the lives of soldiers and the population.
  17. w-schmidt-adelsheimt-online.de (Vladimir Schmidt) 7 November 2022 19: 06
    +4
    It was also stated that "Russia" had not yet come to the war, i.e. soldiers come and die, and the elite shit still thinks how to preserve its own, honestly earned wealth over the hill, are they really waiting for the beginning of riots in the troops to remove the idiots and finally start fighting, it won’t resolve itself.
  18. Peace Peace. Offline Peace Peace.
    Peace Peace. (Tumar Tumar) 8 November 2022 02: 07
    0
    All hope was on tactical nuclear weapons.