Can a 2-year military service be a good start in life?


As we expected, a natural consequence of the special military operation in Ukraine could be an increase in the term of service in the Russian army from 1 year to 2 years. After the “trial balloon” thrown by Senator Dzhabarov, a sharp public discussion began in our Parliament about the need for this unpopular decision. But is it possible to make sure that these 2 years given by a young man to military service do not turn out to be “lost” for him, as many fear, but, on the contrary, become a good start in life for him?


About why an increase in the terms of service in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation by 2 or at least 1,5 times has no alternative, we told previously. If we briefly repeat the main arguments, then the majority of those who pulled back their straps agree that in 1 year it is possible to qualitatively prepare a specialist who is able to manage complex modern technique, almost impossible. If you can prepare, say, a motorized rifleman in a year, then a missile or anti-aircraft gunner is no longer possible. More precisely, it is possible, but there will be big questions about the quality. That is why the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, after reducing the service life to 12 months, made a bet on contract servicemen. However, this same decision played a cruel joke against us in the end.

Faced with unexpectedly fierce resistance during the SVO in Ukraine, the Russian Ground Forces suffered significant losses, and most of them were the so-called "five hundredths", the very contract soldiers who preferred to break their contract, in fact bleeding our group. On September 21, 2022, President Putin was forced to announce the start of partial mobilization in the RF Armed Forces in order to prevent an inexorably impending military catastrophe in the face of the Armed Forces of Ukraine developing their counteroffensive. It is assumed that the mobilized will provide a layered defense, freeing contract soldiers for more active offensive operations. Despite the fact that the Donbass and the Sea of ​​Azov have already legally become part of the Russian Federation, the Russian Defense Ministry prefers not to use conscripts to protect new territories, sending them to the regions of our country bordering Ukraine.

In fact, this is a crisis of the very concept of a small but highly professional contract army, which is allegedly enough for defense along with the “nuclear triad”. It is already obvious that our ruling “elite” considered some country in the post-Soviet space such as Georgia as a real enemy, against which it would be enough to conduct another “coercive operation in the world”, or terrorist groups consisting of conditional “barmaley”, not having modern shock and anti-aircraft systems. The reality turned out to be different, and Russia was drawn into a "proxy" war with the entire NATO bloc on the territory of Ukraine.

There is no doubt that the existing Ground Forces are not enough to ensure the security of our vast country. However, there are questions on the principle of formation of the RF Armed Forces. Following Senator Dzhabarov, State Duma deputy Mikhail Sheremet said about the need to double the term of service in the army:

The current format does not imply high-quality training of a soldier. It is very difficult and problematic to train and prepare during the year. But two years is quite the best option. This is a timely and necessary measure that needs to be implemented as soon as possible to increase the combat readiness of our army.

He was supported by Viktor Bondarev, Chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security:

I think we will consult with the Ministry of Defense, with other law enforcement agencies, where conscription service is provided. I think all this will be supported, we have no other choice.

However, Andriy Klishas, ​​a senator from the ruling party, entered into a debate with them:

I doubt very much that an increase in the term of military service to two years will contribute to an increase in the combat effectiveness of the army. Modern weapons require a professional military and a gradual transition to a larger number of contract soldiers.

Also, Andrey Kartapolov, Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense, United Russia, did not agree with his colleagues in the Federal Assembly:

I don't know why Sheremet came up with this idea. Today there is no need for two years of military service. If the Federation Council also has such ideas, this is their right. We do not consider such legislative initiatives and believe that today there is no such need.

Nevertheless, the majority of deputies who spoke on this issue publicly supported the idea of ​​Dzhabarov-Sheremet. Finally, our Parliament has once again become a “place for discussion”!

The objective reality is that Russia will have to take this unpopular step as well. Note that the current call for an increase in service life to 2 years will definitely not apply. It is a matter of the near future, when the Kremlin allows itself to be persuaded into military reform. But how to make sure that military service is not a burdensome burden for young guys, but an important step in life?

At first, it would be right for us to start preparing for military service in advance. It is necessary to revive the initial military training in educational institutions, to reorient the structures of DOSAAF from auto courses to their original purpose. Young people should not only sit inseparably in their gadgets, but also regularly shoot at shooting ranges, go hiking, play Zarnitsa. In a healthy body, as they say, a healthy mind. Then, once in the army, young people will not faint at the sight of a spider or from the fact that they breathed clean air in nature. And the hardships of military service will not seem so great.

Secondlyso that these 2 years are not “crossed out of life”, it would be advisable to combine military service with receiving secondary specialized education at the expense of the budget. There are many managers and lawyers in the country, but there is a shortage of those who can do something with their own hands. During these 2 years in the army, it would be possible to train auto mechanics, locksmiths, welders, universal turners, electricians, assemblers, aircraft maintenance specialists, electronics assemblers, and so on in parallel with receiving the main VUS. By order of the Ministry of Labor and Social Protection of the Russian Federation No. 831 dated November 02.11.2015, 50, a list of the XNUMX most in-demand professions was formed, and all of those listed are there, and not only them.

In other words, during these two years of military service, if everything is done wisely, it is possible to massively train techies with a specialized secondary education, who will be useful both in the RF Armed Forces and then in civilian life. After the army, such a young specialist will definitely not be left without a piece of bread, and the country will receive professional personnel necessary for the restoration of industry and economics. Another incentive for two years of military service could be to provide those who have served with the opportunity to obtain a mortgage on preferential terms at a reduced interest rate in a state bank.

If we properly approach the solution of this problem, after the military reform, service in the army can again become the norm for the mutual benefit of society and the state, and not something that many seek to "slope" off.
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  1. Captain stoner Offline Captain stoner
    Captain stoner (Captain Stoner) 4 November 2022 15: 40
    +6
    I had a military department at the university that graduated reserve lieutenants.
    During the years of study, he talked about the army with his former classmates. They said it was two wasted years.
    Even in the photo - drill ... and-time! i-time! one two Three! left turn! - set aside, comrade cadet! - at the command "to the left" some heel of one leg rises, the toe of the other leg turns in the right direction, where the torso then follows ...
    Is this exactly what is needed for modern combat?
    1. clidon Offline clidon
      clidon (Alex) 4 November 2022 17: 13
      +2
      You just need to do something, so they do it "like under grandfather." With a similar result, if not worse. Because you need to spend a lot of money on training, but they won’t give it. By the same tradition.
    2. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 4 November 2022 17: 41
      0
      Captain stoner, we are not familiar with your comrades. I will say that I have good memories of my service in the army.
      Drill is not a core military discipline.
    3. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 9 November 2022 11: 13
      -1
      - set aside, comrade cadet!

      Is that how it is in the army? Only if in school. And so - a fellow soldier, Private Sidorov, Corporal Petrov.

      Even in the photo - drill ...

      Under the USSR, who would allow you to shoot equipment. Is that the assembly / disassembly of AK. The gadget is a godsend for a spy, but then they did not exist. And print photos - a whole hemorrhoids.
      Drill training is the most important tool for the psychological preparation of a fighter. Directed to the unconditional execution of the order. First start doing, then think. This is the army...

      ... it was two lost years.

      The army is the last chance to correct the defects of education. There will be no other. The employee may not understand this.
      As for training, and all sorts of extraneous work - this is already as lucky. Everywhere people. And since the army was not prestigious for a long time, then the people there, to put it mildly, different ...
  2. Monax Offline Monax
    Monax (Hermann) 4 November 2022 15: 46
    0
    It is necessary to do as in the USSR. After completing military service, you can enter any educational institution without exams based on an interview. Then it makes sense to serve 2 years.
    1. Captain stoner Offline Captain stoner
      Captain stoner (Captain Stoner) 4 November 2022 18: 04
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      You don't even know how it was "under the USSR".
      My retired classmates went through the "rabfak" (preparatory faculty), where they repeated the school curriculum for a year. Graduation grades for the workers' faculty were considered progressive for the first year.
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 4 November 2022 20: 03
        -4
        This is even better.
      2. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
        Vox_Populi (vox populi) 5 November 2022 15: 46
        -1
        You are right, but not only through the "rabfak", some acted directly, but out of competition ...
      3. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 9 November 2022 11: 17
        -1
        Rabfak is somewhere before the Great Patriotic War. They were intended for training people without secondary education at a university / technical school. Then (at least since the 70s there were POs (preparatory departments) at universities. Here they were mainly intended for demobilization.
    2. Vladimir80 Offline Vladimir80
      Vladimir80 5 November 2022 06: 32
      +1
      Well, he entered without exams, and after the first semester he "flew" out of the institute ...
      It all depends on the quality of training, all these VUS for privates can be studied, mastered in six months, and then every 3/5 years at the training camp to test knowledge and skills.
      1. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 9 November 2022 11: 23
        -2
        Six months is training, sergeant or for specialists. And not everyone fits in six months. After that, it starts Military service.
        Do you propose that those who graduate from school be allowed to go home? And how do you imagine an army without sergeants and specialists?
  3. ja.net.1975 Offline ja.net.1975
    ja.net.1975 4 November 2022 17: 15
    +2
    with an increase in the service life, it is necessary to reconsider the age, normal in terms of mental and physical development, the call is 20-21 years old, otherwise it’s funny to look at clumsy teenagers in military uniform .....
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 5 November 2022 17: 10
      0
      All the same, calling from 19 is more optimal.
  4. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 4 November 2022 23: 03
    +1
    If we recall that the Duma legally protected itself from conscription, then ....
    The new boyars need new servants. What kind of "start in life" can a locksmith-soldier have in comparison with the American swindler-capitalist Butina?

    yes none.

    He will crawl under shelling, and then he will hunch back not even at the member of the Duma, who has shrunk from the call, but at the deputy’s junior assistant to the janitor ...
  5. Alex P Offline Alex P
    Alex P (Alex Putorashkin) 4 November 2022 23: 40
    +5
    And that the training of an anti-aircraft gunner or rocket launcher should be more difficult, longer and more responsible than, for example, the training of a subway driver? There, after six months, you know the composition by heart to the millimeter and all the actions have already been learned, they send a steam locomotive to drive with living people. And you scratch that in a year it is impossible to prepare a soldier with some specific non-officer VUS? Yes, you just need to COOK, and not toil with garbage with whitening curbs, shaving edgings and marching on the parade ground. Yes, as they wrote above, I also generally have good memories of the service, but if, say, when I came back, as a young kid, everyone, more from the user, probably stated that the service is needed, now after 10 years, having seen and understood how life works I think it's a waste of time.

    PS Having returned two years, we will get mass evasion from service, as in the 90-00s, for the last 10 years people have been going only because the year does not allow them to fall out of life in general. And in general, there is no need to throw off the problems of corrupt officials and economists on the shoulders of ordinary people, raise the economy in order to pay decently and people will go themselves, what kind of person should give years of his life for what he does not want and what will not come in handy later?
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 5 November 2022 00: 44
      +4
      I agree with you, because the RF Armed Forces, like the RF Ministry of Defense, have collapsed, like many things in the Russian Federation. Therefore, although three years of military service will not change anything, first change the leadership of the RF Ministry of Defense, that is, start from the head and then down to the last lieutenant. For you are amazed when officers take bribes from their subordinates and other corrupt unseemly deeds. The SVO showed that we have "Potemkin villages" of the RF Ministry of Defense, with tank biathlons. And who is to blame for such a state of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, as well as the entire state - the last decade has been an obvious decay with beautiful promises from the president, for which there were no reports (because nothing was fulfilled). .
    2. kalita Offline kalita
      kalita (Alexander) 6 November 2022 10: 43
      0
      Mass evasion can be eliminated, it again depends on the conscientious approach of doctors and military registration and enlistment offices.
  6. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
    Vox_Populi (vox populi) 5 November 2022 15: 42
    +3
    Can a 2-year military service be a good start in life?

    As a person who is somewhat familiar with the topic under discussion, I will be brief: under the system that has existed for many decades, this is not only pointless, but also harmful. A reasonable way out is only in well-organized pre-conscription training (school and DOSAAF) and normal training of conscripts (from the age of 19) for simple VUS in the army for a period of 1 year (with a minimum of outfits, drill and without household work) with subsequent reserve gathering every 1-2 years . All difficult specialties and sergeant positions must be filled by contractors.
    However, without serious changes in approaches, nothing will work ...
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 5 November 2022 17: 28
      +1
      I wholeheartedly support this view of military service and its preparation. And the approaches of the Defense Ministry in terms of conscription and recruitment are conservative in a poor sense of the word. A few years ago, a young man who had already served, who graduated from college with a degree in television and radio broadcasting, asked what specialty he served. It turned out that he did not encounter any radio in the army. This really surprised me.
  7. kalita Offline kalita
    kalita (Alexander) 6 November 2022 10: 41
    +1
    I don’t know why the service was transferred for one year at all. We, the older generation, served for two years and we understand that this is not even enough for full training on modern military equipment. Two years must be returned, we no longer have friends in the West and overseas. Stupid reliable people almost ruined our country and now we are taking the rap for our stupidity.
    1. Patrick Tiso Offline Patrick Tiso
      Patrick Tiso (Patrick Tiso) 9 November 2022 16: 53
      0
      Je pense que la réalité du monde dépasse et de loin certaines personnes, votre patrie est en danger de mort, si vous ne devenez pas comme des spartiates et oubliez toutes les futilités modernes, vous avez raison 2 ans c'est un peu court, il est nécessaire d'avoir des entrainements plusieurs fois par mois jusqu'au moins 50 ans, c'est à ce prix qu'une nation peut être préservée contre ses adversaires potentiels et réels.
  8. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 9 November 2022 11: 01
    0
    Secondly, so that these 2 years are not “crossed out of life”, it would be advisable to combine military service with receiving secondary specialized education at the expense of the budget.

    Did you serve in the army? How can this be combined? With modern weapons and a normal approach to service in 2 years, God forbid to master what is necessary. Or study or serve. Secondary specialized education is a technical school under the USSR. In the presence of secondary education - at least 2 years of full-fledged (and not easy study).
    It's just that those who served in the army should have benefits. For 2 years of service, a lot of knowledge will fly out of my head. Therefore, it is necessary (as in the USSR) to be admitted to the PO (preparatory department) without exams (after service), and with the grades obtained at the end of the PO, to be accepted for 1 course, on the budget. Well, the most stupid, of course, no.
    Plus, it is imperative to introduce order that without military service for civil service - not a foot.
    It would be enough.