Russia threatened to destroy Western satellites helping Ukraine: why this is almost unrealistic


The civilian space infrastructure used by the Ukrainian military in the form of commercial satellites of Western countries and companies can become a legitimate target for the RF Armed Forces. This was stated during a speech at the UN General Assembly by the authorized representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Konstantin Vorontsov.


According to the Russian diplomat, an extremely dangerous trend is currently being observed, when the Armed Forces of Ukraine are using for reconnaissance and fire adjustment devices in Earth orbit intended for peaceful purposes. This is happening with the blatant complicity of the West (the United States and its allies), which jeopardizes the sustainability of conventional international space activities.

Therefore, if this practice continues, then Moscow reserves the right to destroy such space infrastructure that helps the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Quasi-civilian infrastructure could be a legitimate target for retaliation

Vorontsov threatened.

It should be noted that, most likely, we are talking not so much about the orbital constellation of the American company Starlink and its analogues, which provide broadband Internet using a huge number of communication satellites, but about Earth remote sensing satellites that are engaged in intelligence activities. The thing is that it is very difficult to destroy a network of satellites, such as Starlink, because it already consists of several thousand spacecraft (3449 as of October 5, 2022). Launching "buckets with hooks" into orbit or detonating small nuclear weapons there will not solve the problem - everyone will suffer. The destruction of such a global grouping with anti-satellite missiles can also be practically forgotten, because this procedure will be incredibly expensive and lengthy. SpaceX will simply put new satellites into orbit, 60 at a time, and anti-satellite missiles are very expensive.

Therefore, the destruction of global orbital groups is unrealistic. But there are Western companies that have far fewer satellites than Starlink. Moreover, they are not engaged in Internet access, but just remote sensing of the Earth, i.e. espionage in favor of Western intelligence services and Ukraine. It is they who pose the greatest danger, and it is advisable to focus the efforts of the RF Armed Forces on them - it is cheaper, more reliable and more practical.
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  1. Sasha_4 Offline Sasha_4
    Sasha_4 (Sasha the Invisible) 27 October 2022 12: 01
    +1
    Everything impossible is possible. You just need to put your hands on
    1. Downed pilot Offline Downed pilot
      Downed pilot (Sympathetic) 27 October 2022 20: 28
      -1
      We need new engineering solutions. Something in the style of Katyusha, T34, Grabin guns. Need cheap and cheerful. An unexpected witty decision
    2. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
      sH, arK 29 October 2022 11: 34
      0
      Yes, the author simply does not quite correctly pose the question. First of all, the first target is not just a trifle like StarLink, but optical reconnaissance satellites of the KN-11 class, weighing more than 13 tons and costing under $10 billion, are the main targets!
      Yes, there are also "little things", but all this is secondary. StarLink satellites are stupid to shoot down - and no "buckets of nuts" will help there. They can be destroyed, for example, with a laser pulse - they are small, unprotected, in very low orbits, and obviously a system like "Peresvet" - may well take them. Just like blinding civilian optical intelligence satellite systems.
      This is not the question - the beginning of the impact on the spacecraft is actually the beginning of the war. Although the effect of a laser is extremely difficult to prove. And electronic warfare over the battlefield, and the laser can precisely be attributed to such an impact - this is a legitimate way to counter.
  2. DO Offline DO
    DO (Dmitriy) 27 October 2022 12: 31
    +1
    the destruction of global orbital groups is unrealistic

    Both "buckets of nuts" and the EMP of an orbital nuclear explosion are real.
    Another thing is that, given the restraint of Russian responses to the provocations of Western "partners", the Russian leadership will most likely use such means only as a symmetrical response to the destruction of Russian satellites by the West.
    But the use of electronic warfare using Russian satellites over the territory of Ukraine has long been ripe and overripe.
  3. prior Offline prior
    prior (Vlad) 27 October 2022 12: 43
    +3
    Russia threatened ......

    A biting dog does not lie in vain.
    After numerous "red lines" and "deepest concerns",
    no one is afraid of Russia's threats anymore.
    1. Corsair Offline Corsair
      Corsair (DNR) 27 October 2022 13: 47
      +7
      Quote: prior
      Russia threatened...

      A biting dog does not lie in vain.

      So that biting recourse ...
  4. Tektor Offline Tektor
    Tektor (Tektor) 27 October 2022 13: 03
    +1
    We have several options for destroying satellites. The most gentle is the IS (satellite fighters), which were developed by Chelomey. Some of them are stored in warehouses until the moment "H". They mechanically hit satellites they can reach.
    Another variant of the MiG31I with the Ishim missile. The third one is C500. 4- Peresvet 5- Electromagnetic pulse from the object Sura: Technical data of the radio complex "Sura":

    The frequency range of the heating installation is from 4,5 to 9,3 MHz. The setup consists of three 250 kW power transmitters and an array of 144 dipole antennas measuring 300 × 300 m. In the middle of the range, the maximum zenith gain is approximately equal to 260 (~ 24 dB), the effective radiated power of the ERP installation is 190 MW (~ 83 dBW).
    1. Corsair Offline Corsair
      Corsair (DNR) 27 October 2022 13: 52
      +9
      Quote: Tektor
      We have several options for destroying satellites.

      ... and not a single chance for their destruction, due to
      the blatant indecision of the Kremlin to act...
    2. Sydor Kovpak Offline Sydor Kovpak
      Sydor Kovpak 27 October 2022 18: 13
      -2
      And what about the debris and fragments if you shoot down with missiles. ? In weightlessness, they will dangle chaotically and threaten our satellites. It's easier to really blow up a barrel of nuts, and gravity will do its job. And space will be more dangerous than the Black Sea, in which the ukrovermacht "lost" a bunch of mines.
    3. Downed pilot Offline Downed pilot
      Downed pilot (Sympathetic) 27 October 2022 20: 38
      +1
      Missiles are expensive ... an orbital battle station, even more expensive. EW or some new solutions
  5. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 27 October 2022 13: 06
    +2
    Satellites are just a tool. The same as Ukraine itself, nuclear weapons, NATO, military viruses, the fifth column, etc., etc. They have enough tools for us.
    It is necessary to direct efforts to those from whom the plans and decisions of this entire gang come. This is the Anglo-Saxons and their home. To that center, which must be threatened, and which must be forced by the threat of death to retreat to its original positions.
    Obviously, the Anglo-Saxons should value their collective skin more than plans aimed at its well-being.
    1. Corsair Offline Corsair
      Corsair (DNR) 27 October 2022 14: 01
      +11
      Quote: Alexey Davydov
      Satellites are just a tool. The same as Ukraine itself, nuclear weapons, NATO, military viruses, the fifth column, etc., etc. They have enough tools for us.

      The program "Military Acceptance" should be banned for subversion and misinformation of society.
      Over the years of broadcasting, there have been so many "unparalleled in the world" INSTRUMENTS demonstrated that pride is bursting straight ...
      And "it came" NWO ("suddenly", like winter) - to the fighters pants volunteers donate...
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 27 October 2022 15: 06
        +5
        This is part of the "Potemkin village" built by Putin and his team. She, coupled with the cleansing of the political field, prevented the country from seeing its problems in time and changing the leadership by constitutional means.
        I will cite once again what Yuri Boldyrev writes about this, from December 1993 to December 1995. - Member of the first (elected) Federation Council from St. Petersburg. From 1995 to Jan. 2001 - Deputy Chairman of the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation:

        For this, all approaches to power were walled up and concreted, so that no other idea, no other way of life, development and movement into the future, except for the stupid eating away of the heritage of the ancestors, could constitute an alternative to the consistent degradation of the country that has been going on for three decades.
        It remains to ask a naive question: so if we, the people of Russia, paid and continue to pay tribute in one form or another, then this is a tribute for what?
        Obviously: for our resignation, inability to self-organize and consent to the usurpation of power by those who have the opportunity to pass off their obligations to external forces as obligations of the state, that is, our obligations with you

        Article "You have to pay for political incapacity" https://svpressa.ru/politic/article/341038/
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 28 October 2022 00: 40
          +1
          Now it is clear that the purpose of the Anglo-Saxons was not this "tribute", but the use of Russia, together with Ukraine, as a tool and consumable in combination to ignite war in Europe. Therefore, they preserved it with the hands of Putin under the plausible idea of ​​a national revival, which no one was seriously going to carry out. According to this plan, Russia should be destroyed by the hands of Europe (NATO), and Europe, weakened by her blood, should become an industrial appendage, a neo-colony of the States that have lost their own industry. The dependence of the Russian leadership on the Anglo-Saxons has probably been going on since 1992. Along with power, obligations were also transferred to Putin. For this reason, the Anglo-Saxons are probably not very afraid of our nuclear weapons, and our government regularly denies the threat of their use by the first. I came to these conclusions by trying to link all the contradictions known to us
  6. calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich (Dmitriy) 27 October 2022 14: 04
    +2
    destroy similar space infrastructure that helps the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    Destroy the network, not the satellites themselves. To do this, it is enough to break the connection between the cells of the network.
    Recently, the Americans themselves have recognized such a vulnerability, which lies in the open source code with which satellites exchange positioning information.
    That's why Musk got nervous.
  7. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 27 October 2022 14: 12
    -5
    They just blew the satellite revolution with Rogozin and other effective managers.

    Outside capitalism. Anyone can in principle rent a commercial geo-reconnaissance (or meteorological) satellite. and what to monitor. What you see is all yours.
    Do we even have enough funds to manage something? And full of smart people.

    Pay and monitor. For example, it was: - Rent a yacht - and sail yourself along the Omerika or Norway, listen to the air. take pictures. (cases with a relative of Zhirinovsky and Yakunin). Right now, in the midst of "sanctions", with or without an English passport.

    And if you run into civilian satellites, it will be worse for you, and they will launch new ones ...
    1. Downed pilot Offline Downed pilot
      Downed pilot (Sympathetic) 27 October 2022 20: 40
      +1
      Why would it be worse if you shoot down other people's civilian satellites used by the enemy to kill our citizens and military forces ???
      1. Sam Rimer Offline Sam Rimer
        Sam Rimer (Sam Rimer) 28 October 2022 02: 14
        0
        Almost half of these satellites were launched by Russian carriers.
  8. Foxsvl Offline Foxsvl
    Foxsvl (Vladimir) 27 October 2022 14: 45
    +2
    Musk declared the critical vulnerability of his satellites, and you say that they are invincible.
    1. Downed pilot Offline Downed pilot
      Downed pilot (Sympathetic) 27 October 2022 20: 41
      0
      He probably wrote it on the fence
  9. Ivan Ivanych 68743684 (Sergei) 27 October 2022 17: 38
    -1
    on a head-on course, release such a sickly cloud of defective ball bearings, and the end of this grouping, and then the debris will only multiply and demolish all other satellites
    1. Downed pilot Offline Downed pilot
      Downed pilot (Sympathetic) 27 October 2022 20: 42
      0
      Yep, EVERYONE ELSE
    2. Vyacheslav 64 Offline Vyacheslav 64
      Vyacheslav 64 (Vyacheslav) 28 October 2022 01: 53
      +1
      We have not produced ball bearings for many years, neither high-quality nor defective. Factories killed.
  10. Fizik13 Offline Fizik13
    Fizik13 (Alexey) 27 October 2022 19: 45
    +1
    Russia threatened to destroy Western satellites helping Ukraine: why this is almost unrealistic

    So they can write or write (depending on where to put the stress.
    Many people think that satellites need to be hammered with rockets, which Russia, China and the USA can do and that's all ....
    BUT it's not! To do this, there are lasers, electronic warfare and satellite inspectors.
    What do you watch on the Internet.
  11. Balin Offline Balin
    Balin 28 October 2022 01: 14
    +1
    Satellite with a chemical laser for 10000 shots
  12. slesarg1965 Offline slesarg1965
    slesarg1965 28 October 2022 09: 54
    0
    Any ka is, first of all, not iron in orbit, but a house in the forest. most offer a solution to the problem in the forehead, but they themselves understand. that it is very difficult and almost impossible. Yes, and akin to a nuclear war on the surface of the earth. After such an action, all earthlings can forget about space for a long time. but Boshirov and Petrov are truant and parasitists here! That is, they have been waiting for them for a long time, they will not wait in the tsup. Yes, and the newly-minted citizen of the Russian Federation Edik Snowdenov is doing something. No, maybe they are working tirelessly right now, but we just don’t know. But for a long time our ocean cables have not been torn, gas pipelines in Houston have not exploded, the sites of electric companies in the Florida region have not fallen ...
  13. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 28 October 2022 15: 52
    0
    Like almost all Russian threats to Western countries, this turns out to be complete bullshit. We no longer draw red lines, the red pencils are over.
  14. AleksandrAl Offline AleksandrAl
    AleksandrAl (Alexander) 29 October 2022 05: 59
    0
    And why not use short-term blinding of the optoelectronic systems of satellites when they fly over the NVO zone and the territory of RUSSIA?
  15. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 29 October 2022 10: 47
    -1
    It is problematic to identify and neutralize military vehicles in a huge mass of “civilian” ones, and secondly, even if this becomes possible, the political economy and military consequences will be unpredictable.