US general: Western military forces can enter the conflict in Ukraine without NATO intervening

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The United States and its allies can arrange for their military forces to directly participate in the ongoing conflict between Moscow and Kyiv without posing a threat to NATO member states, retired US Army General and former CIA chief David Petraeus said in an interview with the French weekly L'Express. In the scenario he outlined, Washington could call for the formation of a "new international coalition of volunteers" and use it instead of troops officially under NATO command.

Russia could take steps in Ukraine that would be so shocking and horrific that it would trigger a response from the US and other countries in one way or another, but as a multinational force led by the United States, not as a NATO force

Petraeus said.



He explained that NATO can now openly join the conflict only if Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty is applied - that is, if one of its member countries is attacked. But according to the scenario he presented of using some kind of “multinational force” in direct hostilities against Russia, on the contrary, NATO will still be able to maintain the official status of “non-intervention” in the Ukrainian conflict with none of the forces that are under the command and control of the alliance.
When asked by L'Express about fears that in such a scenario the conflict would escalate into a third world war, Petraeus replied in the negative:

No, I don't think it's in Vladimir Putin's interest to expand the war. His military forces are already inferior to those of Ukraine, and the last thing he needs is a wider conflict.

Earlier in October, Petraeus said the United States "could destroy all Russian forces in Ukraine, as well as the Russian Black Sea Fleet, if Moscow uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine." In a new interview, he tried to "clarify" his previous statement with the reservation that such a response from Washington to Russia would include various, including diplomatic, military, economic and legal actions

I want to be clear that what I'm describing here is just one option that I believe will be considered if Putin makes a highly unfortunate decision to use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine. Such an action will put Putin and Russia in an even deeper hole than before.

Petraeus said in an interview published Oct. 22.

It is noteworthy that almost immediately after this, the transfer to the main world news the agenda of information on the possible explosion of a “dirty atomic bomb” on the territory of Ukraine with the aim of provoking and subsequently accusing Russia of allegedly “using a nuclear charge”, which could have become the very “shocking and horrific” event, according to Petraeus, in which the West so desperately needs right now, while the audience of the media controlled by it is convinced that the Ukrainian forces are still “continuing to attack”. But in a situation where the “offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine” will clearly show that it has run out of steam, and Russia will strengthen its grouping in the zone of a special military operation, speculation on the topic of “Russian use of nuclear weapons” will become pointless.
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    1. 0
      24 October 2022 20: 17
      US general: Western military forces can enter the conflict in Ukraine without NATO intervening

      VOPANA - How is it? Will Iceland and Greenland stand up for poor Ukrainians?
    2. -2
      24 October 2022 20: 23
      This retired general is talking nonsense. What can the 5000 US Army, which has never fought before, without air support, seriously do? Absolutely nothing. They are no different than mercenaries. In the case of US aviation supporting its troops, this will already be a real war, which can quickly turn into a nuclear one with all the consequences.
      1. -3
        24 October 2022 20: 47
        No, it's not nonsense. Nonsense is only in your mind. Throw hats? The Russian Federation has only one single trump card: mutual destruction. But is he good? Unlikely. America and vassals can bleed the Russian Federation, they have power and money. Didn't they still understand: there shouldn't be Russians on this planet. Ask yourself: Why don't Russians have friends? The question is not rhetorical but direct. Not from an enemy, but from a friend. Explain.
        1. +1
          24 October 2022 21: 53
          I do not believe that you do not know the answer to this question. MOST of the countries of the United States have subjugated themselves in one way or another. And - yes, we only recently openly opposed their hegemony. So far, we have nothing to offer our possible friends, except for joint problems. We need a victory, but until then we still have the same allies as under Alexander III.
          1. +1
            24 October 2022 22: 31
            Quote: R1a1
            we still have the same allies as under Alexander III

            More than 2+ times. Since then, the Aerospace Forces and (most importantly) the Strategic Missile Forces have been added. Well, Assad said that he would also be happy to provide military assistance))
        2. +1
          24 October 2022 23: 41
          Yes, there is such a trump card! Thanks to this trump card, the West and Russia can be reset to zero. But, the West will lose all the mainland North. America and the peninsula of Europe, they will lose all their wealth, all their cities will be destroyed. They will lose power, influence, luxury, a high standard of living. And for the sake of what, to bomb the two cities of Moscow and St. Petersburg? Don't be ridiculous...Ukraine is not the case for the sake of which humanity can die.
    3. 0
      24 October 2022 20: 59
      he forgot to mention that the US, Polish and British combat operations would have to be secured through the ports of France, Holland. Through the logistics of Germany, Italy. Where will the Air Force work from? From Poland and Romania?

      It won't work without NATO. And Germany is unlikely to want to participate in this. Italy too. France even more so. Not for nothing Macron drives a wave on the United States. They feel in their guts that it's time to distance themselves from the distraught Yankees, they will really drag us into the war.

      Everything is possible, of course, but all these statements are more like another intimidation, with the aim of forcing the General Staff to cover up various directions in case of a sudden war with NATO. Stop attacks on Ukraine's infrastructure. But the result of this is that they intimidated more of the EU
      1. 0
        24 October 2022 22: 24
        Quote: Siegfried
        combat operations of the USA, Poland and Britain will have to be provided through the ports of France, Holland. Through the logistics of Germany, Italy. Where will the Air Force work from? From Poland and Romania? It won't work without NATO.

        Quote: Siegfried
        intimidation, in order to force the General Staff to cover various directions in case of a sudden war with NATO

        On the contrary, such as "calming down" - the troops under the auspices of NATO, as it were, "do not participate." Troops under the flag / emblem of the MNF-"volunteers" (including "their own", and not some kind of "British-Polish" Air Force, Air Defense, or you see, the Navy) will be deployed strictly within Ukraine (or what, Kyiv " refuses to invite" when they ask him?), but they will be supplied - and just like now the Armed Forces of Ukraine - with "donations" and through any communications convenient for this and under any convenient marking - such as "we are bringing humanitarian aid." Will they be "illegally" supported by air intelligence from NATO and from US satellites? They will spit, they will say "vyfsevret"
    4. +1
      24 October 2022 21: 03
      So, the famous recipe.
      When military personnel, like, left the army, and went as volunteers to ... (insert yourself)
      I don't give a damn about banality.

      Much more interesting, where are the Negro volunteers once promised by TV and the media ???
      1. -1
        24 October 2022 22: 27
        There will be blacks, and Colombians, and Australians in the WPC ... And "kosher Wahhabis" from the EU will be thrown up with sheikhs' money
    5. +1
      24 October 2022 22: 09
      Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty (NATO) cannot apply to the newly-minted states formed by separatists on the territories of the former Soviet republics of the USSR, since they seized the territory of Russia as a result of a coup d'état in the USSR. A coup d'état is a criminal offense without a statute of limitations. NATO is a terrorist organization in the world.
    6. 0
      25 October 2022 10: 14
      US general: Western military forces can enter the conflict in Ukraine without NATO intervening

      It's purely about legal convenience. For them. For us, the sum will not change from the rearrangement of the places of the terms.
      The composition of their forces and means in both cases will be determined by the owner of the war himself.
    7. +1
      25 October 2022 14: 00
      Well, in this case, Russia will be able to destroy this "international coalition" in Ukraine by any means available, without fear that this will cause an open conflict with NATO.
    8. 0
      30 October 2022 17: 15
      Petraeus wake up! Western military forces are already involved in the conflict in Ukraine.