A new figure of losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and foreign mercenaries announced: more than 400 thousand

October 24 2022 48

According to the Mir Mikhail Onufrienko telegram channel, taken from OSINT (Open Source Intelligence) data, the total losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the Ukrainian conflict are about 400 thousand military personnel and foreign mercenaries.

So, on October 20, the irretrievable losses of the Ukrainian armed forces approached 402 thousand people, of which 387 thousand were killed. Mercenaries and volunteers from Poland, Romania, the Baltic countries and other states in Ukraine killed 31 people, their total losses amounted to 240 thousand. The information was obtained using extracts from mortuaries, documents from funeral homes and information from the exchange of data between various units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

In addition, on the eve of the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers of Ukraine demanded to clarify the fate of 320 thousand military personnel, but the SBU refused for reasons of national security. At the same time, these data are not documented.

At the same time, Western sources also report heavy losses of pro-Kiev forces. The former deputy head of the European Command of the United States, Stephen Twitty, in an interview with the Linke Zeitung newspaper noted that about 200 thousand military personnel were missing in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and no one knows about their whereabouts.

According to the head of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark Milley, the APU lost "tens and tens of thousands of people." Former senator, colonel and veteran Richard Black mentioned in one of his speeches that every month the Ukrainian armed forces lose 6 soldiers.

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Corsair

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24 October 2022 15: 50

This is for "SVO", and if you take into account the losses before it?
Since 2014 of the year ...
Yes, add here the figures of natural population decline and the outflow from the country of refugees, migrants, guest workers, draft evaders ...
Demographics of the VNA, and in the pre-Maid period was - , and now and for a long time.

And if we take these 400 on faith, and imagine other losses, then the question is - with whom are we fighting, with the ghost of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?

About mercenaries not a word, there cannot be tens and tens of thousands of them.
1. Dart2027
  
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  24 October 2022 16: 26
  
  Quote: Corsair
  who are we fighting
  
  So they row everyone they can.
  
  Quote: Corsair
  Not a word about mercenaries, there cannot be tens and tens of thousands of them.
  
  Modern PMCs are branches of special services, so if they say it is necessary, they will go. Perhaps the participation of military personnel under the guise of mercenaries is also possible.
  1. Corsair
    
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    24 October 2022 16: 49
    
    Quote: Dart2027
    So they row everyone they can.
    
    However, the figure of 400 in 000 months of SVO is puzzling to me ...
    
    OSINT (Open Source Intelligence - open source investigations)
    
    I can suggest another open source - reports of the RF Ministry of Defense.
    There, Konashenkov voices such numbers of enemy losses that summing them up, it turns out that there will not be so many people in all of Europe ...
    1. Dart2027
      
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      24 October 2022 18: 00
      
      Quote: Corsair
      the figure of 400 in 000 months of CBO is puzzling to me
      
      What?
      
      Quote: Corsair
      There, Konashenkov voices such numbers of enemy losses that summing them up, it turns out that there will not be so many people in all of Europe
      
      Truth? I don't remember this.
      1. Pahan135
        
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        1 November 2022 00: 37
        
        Quote: Dart2027
        Quote: Corsair
        the figure of 400 in 000 months of CBO is puzzling to me
        
        What?
        
        Because it's an obvious lie. And there are no references to the source where these figures are taken from. That is, it is a normal throw
        
        Dart2027
        
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        1 November 2022 20: 33
        
        Quote from Pahan135
        Because it's an obvious lie.
        
        According to whom?
        
        Quote from Pahan135
        And there are no references to the source where these figures are taken from.
        
        Given that only on the front line, several hundred only counted opponents are destroyed daily. nothing surprising.
        
        Pahan135
        
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        2 November 2022 17: 04
        
        Quote: Dart2027
        Given that only on the front line, several hundred only counted opponents are destroyed daily. nothing surprising.
        
        Propagandists will not think so for you. Osinth is not an organization, it is an intelligence discipline. That is, it is simply reported that it is not known which experts, who knows which organization, are reporting off-scale loss figures, without indicating any source. Indeed, why not believe it.
        
        Quote: Dart2027
        According to whom?
        
        Obviously reasonable people
        
        Dart2027
        
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        2 November 2022 19: 12
        
        Quote from Pahan135
        Propagandists will not think so for you. Osinth is not an organization, it is an intelligence discipline.
        
        Do you want to say that this organization is under the control of the FSB?
        
        Quote from Pahan135
        Obviously reasonable people
        
        In the sense of those who are crippled by the successes of the RF Armed Forces?
        
        Pahan135
        
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        3 November 2022 07: 18
        
        Quote: Dart2027
        Do you want to say that this organization is under the control of the FSB?
        
        So what is an organization? She is not named here. A certain Vasya Pupkin named such and such a figure, that's all, no FSB is required here.
        
        Quote: Dart2027
        In the sense of those who are crippled by the successes of the RF Armed Forces?
        
        Success in inventing gossip
        
        Dart2027
        
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        3 November 2022 18: 56
        
        Quote from Pahan135
        So what is an organization? She's not named here.
        
        Didn't read the article?
        
        Quote from Pahan135
        Success in
        
        disposal of Bandera and foreign mercenaries.
        
        Pahan135
        
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        16 December 2022 09: 55
        
        Quote: Dart2027
        Quote from Pahan135
        So what is an organization? She's not named here.
        
        Didn't read the article?
        
        Quote from Pahan135
        Success in
        
        disposal of Bandera and foreign mercenaries.
        
        I read it, and where is the indication of the organization and a link to a reliable source? You can come up with any numbers of "utilization of the Ukranazis", but this will not make them true
Igor Viktorovich Berdin

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24 October 2022 16: 21

And they could live in peace and the Union with Russia and Belarus. This is what pride, stupidity, greed and betrayal lead to.
1. Peace Peace.
  
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  25 October 2022 18: 48
  
  Well, if a Jew rules a Slavic country, then this is still the beginning.
  1. Igor Viktorovich Berdin
    
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    26 October 2022 12: 07
    
    Yes, it's not a Jew. Many Jews hate him. It's just that the purpose of INDEPENDENT UKRAINE is to be Anti-Russia. The West doesn't need it otherwise. And without the West, it wouldn't even exist for a day.
    1. Peace Peace.
      
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      26 October 2022 12: 49
      
      Why is it not about the Jews? A Jew a priori does not have a God-given blood relationship with the Slavs, braces. And the death of these does not hurt him at all, his soul does not hurt, he died like that, he died the way he should. But if some kind of Slav was in charge, then ......
      1. Igor Viktorovich Berdin
        
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        26 October 2022 17: 20
        
        Before him, the Slavs led, so what? Banderlogs also seem to be Slavs .... and Poles .... anyone can have rot in the soul .... Their Danilov, Drozdov and other Trupchinovs, they even have Russian surnames, but rare creatures ...
        
        Peace Peace.
        
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        26 October 2022 17: 40
        
        I didn’t understand, before the non-Slavs fought openly?
2. Dingo
  
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  25 October 2022 20: 35
  What about lace panties? After all, without them, the wrong contingent is not allowed into the EU.
3. lord-palladore-11045
  
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  25 October 2022 23: 16
  
  That's right, but in the ranks of our elite there are those for whom money is more important than the interests of Russians.
Vladimir80

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24 October 2022 17: 09

These figures are nonsense (or rather, intentional disinformation!): if the crests came up with it, they are trying to pity the amers and Europeans for the supply of heavy weapons and cash tranches, if ours fantasized, this means that the general staff is preparing a justification for the next stars on shoulder straps. In today's world of deceitful media and deceitful politicians, it is only by the results that one can guess the real state of affairs ("you will know them by their fruits"), and we see the results on the map - they are advancing, we are defending.
Vox_Populi

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24 October 2022 18: 27

So, on October 20, the irretrievable losses of the Ukrainian armed forces approached 402 thousand people, of which 387 thousand were killed. Mercenaries and volunteers from Poland, Romania, the Baltic countries and other states in Ukraine killed 31 people, in total their losses amounted to 240 thousand people.

Disinformation, otherwise who would continue to fight on the part of Ukraine and in some places quite successfully?! What kind of mercenaries will go to die in tens of thousands?!
1. Grape_Fruit
  
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  24 October 2022 20: 43
  
  But what about the million mobilized people told by the arrestovich and Zelensky? 400 are already in the ground. There are still 000 left.
  1. Ulan.1812
    
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    25 October 2022 22: 28
    
    Quote from Grape_Fruit
    But what about the million mobilized people told by the arrestovich and Zelensky? 400 are already in the ground. There are still 000 left.
    
    Mobilization is ongoing. She never stopped with them.
    The replenishment prepared abroad constantly arrives.
    So they have enough cannon fodder.
    So far, we do not have enough personnel.
Grape_Fruit

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24 October 2022 20: 44

Quote: Corsair
However, the figure of 400 in 000 months of SVO is puzzling to me ...

What is the bewilderment? Zelensky and co. said they were mobilizing an army of one million.
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Pavel57

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25 October 2022 17: 15

War is a terrible tragedy. For the south of future Russia, there is a gigantic demographic hole.
Condensed milk

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25 October 2022 17: 27

Well, of course. More than all the allies of Germany in 4 years of the war. Why not 4 million?
1. Dima
  
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  26 October 2022 13: 55
  
  Only Hungary, Italy and Romania lost about 700 killed. And there were also Finland, Spain, Slovakia, Sweden, Norway, France, Poland, Croatia. All together more than 000 million soldiers.
  As for the 400 killed in Ukraine, that's a very real figure. There were about 000 million people under arms there in the summer, plus mercenaries and another wave of mobilization.
  1. Condensed milk
    
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    26 October 2022 17: 13
    
    As for the allies of Germany, I meant only the Eastern Front. In some sources, 800 thousand killed. But in any case, in 4 years (provided that during this time millions of people from each side passed through the armed forces) In any case, the figures of 387 thousand killed and only 15 thousand wounded are absolutely unrealistic. This is an overestimation of the data of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation by 6 times. It turns out that Konashenkov's data is a goofy fake? And if the data on the loss of equipment is also multiplied by 6, then it turns out that we have already defeated the Ukrainian army 5 times.
    1. Dima
      
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      26 October 2022 22: 37
      
      As for WW2, the problem is how to count the French, Poles, and other Czechs from the territories included in the 3rd Reich. As far as I know, they are not counted among the 5 million German soldiers. However, they are not separated into a separate group. As far as I read the statistics, our losses in those killed at the front amounted to about 10 million people. The enemy lost about 9 million people on the Eastern Front.
      
      Now to Konoshenko and *6.
      1. Wounded and irretrievable losses are often confused. The wounded are the wounded, there are many of them, but most of them return to the front, or go for treatment, but the crippled are a different category. As far as I understand, 15 thousand is for this column. I do not know how accurate this figure is, but it clearly should not be 6/1.
      2. Konoshenko gives figures of only confirmed losses, therefore, according to the reports of the Ministry of Defense, Ukrainian losses are several times less than Onufrienko cited. I don’t remember exactly, there was a figure in the region of 60-100 thousand people
      3. More than 700 thousand people were mobilized in Ukraine, plus at the beginning of the SVO, there were about 700 thousand people in all paramilitary power structures. Plus mercenaries. Accordingly, why is another wave of mobilization needed, if such a mass of people are under arms? So the losses are really big.
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Herman 4223

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25 October 2022 22: 51

Mikhail Onufrienko is from Ukraine, a friend and colleague of the Podolians, who twice was the commandant of the local Maidan, and then suddenly became a patriot in Russia. I don't really trust their information.
Kuramori Reika

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26 October 2022 07: 06

Yes, nonsense. If we imagine that Ukraine has a population of 30 million, of which 13 million are men, then of these 13 million, at best, only 7 million are fit for service. Plus, it is impossible to call for all 100%, otherwise there will be no one to work. Someone seemed to say that 25% is the very maximum that can be called in any country. Then it turns out that 1.5 million people can be called into military service. These 1.5 million are divided into waves of mobilization, since it is impossible to feed, shoe and arm such a number at once.

Imagine that 1 million people were called up and were already in the service, but this number is also divided into those who work on the front line and in the rear. If out of 1 million there are 600 thousand on the front lines, then the loss of even 200 thousand would already lead to a complete loss of combat capability of the entire army. I can believe in the figure of 70-80 thousand, but obviously not 300.
1. spectr
  
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  26 October 2022 10: 22
  
  In principle, if the economy of Ukraine is now provided by the West, then it only needs a limited number of people to support the infrastructure of the state. Therefore, I am ready to believe in 200000, and 400000 is also overkill in my opinion. Maybe he added there those who left naturally. In Ukraine, about 600000 of these were produced a year.
2. Dima
  
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  26 October 2022 22: 40
  
  According to Zelensky, there are 24 million people there, of which about 1,4 million were put under arms. rear, incl. fleet, air defense, air force, which also suffer losses.
3. Monster_Fat
  
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  28 October 2022 11: 54
  
  There is one more nuance that is diligently bypassed here - Russian losses. Or are you still thinking that the dying Ukrainians do not take the lives of Russians with them?
Oleg Sherstnev

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26 October 2022 09: 42

Quite possibly. If the total number of mobilized pigs is one lemon.
1. Pahan135
  
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  2 November 2022 17: 35
  
  Quote: Oleg Sherstnev
  Quite possibly. If the total number of mobilized pigs is one lemon.
  
  How does the presence of a million people in the army mean a loss of 400 thousand? Or are you ready to believe in any stuffing? If Ukraine has such an army of natives, how can they recapture the territory that Russia tried to occupy for several months in a few days?
Oleg Sherstnev

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26 October 2022 09: 43

Pretty sure.
wladimirjankov

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26 October 2022 15: 26

Why 400 thousand and not a million? As Suvorov said: there is no need to feel sorry for the enemies, the more they are beaten, the better.
1. Pahan135
  
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  2 November 2022 17: 39
  
  Quote: wladimirjankov
  Why 400 thousand and not a million? As Suvorov said: there is no need to feel sorry for the enemies, the more they are beaten, the better.
  
  They can write you a million and a billion, the main thing is to spread your ears wider for noodles
Uncle Borya

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27 October 2022 20: 21

How nice to read about such numbers!
1. Pahan135
  
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  2 November 2022 17: 42
  
  Quote: Uncle Borya
  How nice to read about such numbers!
  
  Especially if you believe in them.
Pahan135

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1 November 2022 00: 59

Quote from Grape_Fruit
Quote: Corsair
However, the figure of 400 in 000 months of SVO is puzzling to me ...

What is the bewilderment? Zelensky and co. said they were mobilizing an army of one million.

How does the presence of a million-strong army mean the loss of hundreds of thousands? I think that our losses and those of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are comparable. Maybe we have more, maybe they have, but they number in tens of thousands, but not hundreds.
Pahan135

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1 November 2022 01: 04

Quote: spectr
In principle, if the economy of Ukraine is now provided by the West, then it only needs a limited number of people to support the infrastructure of the state. Therefore, I am ready to believe in 200000, and 400000 is also overkill in my opinion. Maybe he added there those who left naturally. In Ukraine, about 600000 of these were produced a year.

And on the basis of what are you ready to believe in 200 thousand? Based on the throw? Where is the link to the source of these studies?
Pahan135

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1 November 2022 01: 05

Quote: wladimirjankov
Why 400 thousand and not a million? As Suvorov said: there is no need to feel sorry for the enemies, the more they are beaten, the better.

They can write you a million and a billion
Pahan135

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1 November 2022 01: 06

Quote: Oleg Sherstnev
Quite possibly. If the total number of mobilized pigs is one lemon.

How does the presence of a million people in the army mean a loss of 400 thousand? Or are you ready to believe in any stuffing? If Ukraine has such an army of natives, how can they recapture the territory that Russia tried to occupy for several months in a few days?
asr55

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30 December 2022 17: 20

Before the SVO, only non-combat losses in the Armed Forces were more than 10000 per year. And today, with this meat grinder for the APU, losses along the entire front line are much more than 1000 people per day and much more. They don't say anything about the wounded, as if they don't exist. And there is a ratio of 1-n. to 3-m. I think the losses are real, killed in all divisions and wounded, who fled, disappeared, that is. irretrievable losses have long since significantly exceeded 500000 kakels and mercenaries. There they are dear.
asr55

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30 December 2022 17: 26

Quote from Pahan135
Quote: Oleg Sherstnev
Quite possibly. If the total number of mobilized pigs is one lemon.

How does the presence of a million people in the army mean a loss of 400 thousand? Or are you ready to believe in any stuffing? If Ukraine has such an army of natives, how can they recapture the territory that Russia tried to occupy for several months in a few days?

Look at the map of Ukraine today and in a month and you will see.
guest

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30 December 2022 17: 32

A new figure of losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and foreign mercenaries announced: more than 400 thousand

The news is certainly joyful, but unfortunately not true.