Why did the Kremlin talk about turning the special operation into a "people's war"


One of the main problems, due to which the special operation in Ukraine dragged on for so long and began to present one unpleasant surprise after another, was an acute shortage of forces involved in it. It is already impossible to deny the fact that our Ground Forces were not initially ready for a large-scale war of this type, into which the NMD was transformed. As a result, we came to the beginning of partial mobilization, the creation of a modern analogue of the State Defense Committee, and now at the very top we started talking about the need to turn the war into a "people's" war in order to win it.


The need to move to a "people's war" was personally stated by the first deputy head of the presidential administration, Sergei Kiriyenko:

Russia has always won any war if this war became popular. It has always been so. We will definitely win this war: both “hot” and economic, and the very psychological, informational war that is being waged against us. But for this it is necessary that it be a people's war, so that each person feels his involvement ...

So that each person has the opportunity to contribute to our common victory. Who than can. Someone - by letter to a fighter, someone - at manufacturing enterprises, providing the necessary supplies of equipment. Someone - performing perhaps the most important task, because of all this confrontation, the most important battle is the battle for the future, that is, for the youth. The most important thing in this battle is you.

Amazing in its honesty recognition from an official of such a high rank. First, he cautiously “between the lines” admitted that Russia could not win this war with the collective West, waged in Ukraine, without including the entire people. Secondly, Kiriyenko called the war a war, not a special operation.

Well, that's a big step forward. Only with the recognition of the fact of the disease itself, you can try to start treating it. But then the question arises: if the NWO is not yet a "people's war", then what is it?

Let's look at our opponents. With all the negative attitude towards the criminal Kyiv regime, it must be admitted that it has long put our decorated propagandists on the shoulder blades, skillfully saddling the patriotic horse. In Ukraine, they immediately forgot everything that preceded February 24, 2022, and expose themselves as a victim of the “aggressor” country, which allegedly attacked them vilely. OCG "95 quarter" together with Arestovich and Gordon are working on the theme of the "Great Patriotic War - 2", brainwashing their fellow citizens, and they have succeeded a lot in this. Inspired by military successes in Kharkiv and Kherson regions, Ukrainians either join the army themselves or demand that the Armed Forces of Ukraine fight Russia to the bitter end.

At the beginning of partial mobilization in our country, Kyiv responded by continuing its own, going permanently. The goal is to maintain the multiple numerical superiority of the Armed Forces of Ukraine over the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation at any cost. Zelensky’s regime is ready to respond to the call for 300 thousand reservists into the Russian army by increasing the composition of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to 1,5 million people, or even up to two. If the Kremlin calls for 1 million, then Kyiv will put up to 5,5 million mobilized, Aleksey Arestovich, the “oracle” of Ukrainian propaganda, bluntly stated:

We will need mobilization - both psychological and military, and политическая. It is quite possible that someday ahead of us is the continuation of the mobilization of personnel ...

If a million are mobilized in Russia, what kind of exit (students) are you talking about. We may need everything. Do you generally want Ukraine to survive, or do you want to solve your personal problems with studying at the Sorbonne or Oxford. <...> While the students are not touched, they do not join the army, but it may well turn out that all or very many will go.

The Anglo-Saxons are really ready to fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian who is able to pick up a machine gun. Mobilization, even partial, in our country has faced serious problems. It suddenly became clear that after the "pogrom" perpetrated by Serdyukov's reforms, the mobilization system was not ready to quickly put under arms the million reservists required here and now. They all need to be supported and trained somewhere, they don’t even have corny uniforms and ammunition, which those called up have to buy on their own.

Let's be realistic. The recently completed partial mobilization will most likely not be the last. The break was made involuntarily so that the system could cope with the planned call for conscripts, which was already postponed to a later date. Now the light industry is being actively restructured for the production of military equipment, which will be needed in the future. To achieve the goals and objectives of the NMD, the Russian grouping in Ukraine will have to be further increased, this is an objective reality. Sitting simply on the defensive, hiding behind 300 mobilized reservists, means begging for even more problems.

Then the question is, what is all this for?

The initially announced "demilitarization" and "denazification" of Ukraine are no longer publicly remembered. On the contrary, it is constantly emphasized that the main goal is to help the Donbass, and, accordingly, the liberation of new Russian regions that are needed for a reliable water supply to Crimea and a land transport corridor to the peninsula. To be honest, somehow it all strongly resembles the First World War, when the Russian Empire first stood up for Serbia, and then it suddenly became clear that a simple Russian soldier was fighting for the Turkish straits, through which grain was supposed to be freely exported from the country.

And what, for the sake of liberating only the LDNR, water for the Crimea and the land transport corridor should our mobilized be motivated?

And what about Kharkov and Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev and Odessa, Sumy and Chernigov, Kyiv and Kirovograd, etc.? Here we help and release, but here we do not release, but negotiate through Abramovich?

This is not serious. Many people are already tired of such double-dealing and behind-the-scenes "agreements". Do you want a real "people's war" and the inevitable Victory with the tricolor over Kyiv and Lvov?

Then President Putin, as Supreme Commander-in-Chief, should take personal responsibility and declare that there will be no more "deals" and negotiations, except for surrender, complete and unconditional, with the Kyiv regime. We will fight for the complete liberation of the entire territory of Ukraine without exception, and all Ukrainian Nazis and their accomplices will be held accountable for the crimes committed, wherever they are and no matter how long it takes. Then the NWO will not be an "imperialist war" for water and a transport corridor to the Crimea with the attached "agreements", but a real "people's war", and we will definitely win.
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  1. prior Offline prior
    prior (Vlad) 24 October 2022 12: 18
    +16
    People's war for the profits of the oligarchs and the power of officials?!
    Well, where does the Motherland and the Fatherland have to do with it?
    My Motherland and Fatherland remained in the USSR.
    That's how I would protect them.
    1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 25 October 2022 08: 39
      -8
      One question: why does the author need the territory of the sovereign state of Ukraine? Doesn't he have enough territory?
      1. Watching Offline Watching
        Watching (Alex) 25 October 2022 20: 02
        0
        And why does America need the territory of the sovereign state "Ukraine"? And why do "Ukrainians" hate Russians and why do they consider themselves belonging to the "West"?
    2. Berton Offline Berton
      Berton (Vladimir) 25 October 2022 18: 52
      0
      But on the contrary, I would not want to lay down my life because of the weak-minded and duped by Soviet propaganda.
  2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 24 October 2022 12: 23
    +14
    If you turn the NWO into a people's war, then you need to change the goals.
    It is foolish, under the slogan of a people's war, to let all the people into the "meat grinder" that the Anglo-Saxons in Ukraine and Europe helpfully prepared for this. They will collect as much money and scum from all over the world as they need, with their own and other people's money (including ours) they will gladly deploy new capacities of their military-industrial complex, create new jobs and become even stronger from this, and Russia will grind it all with its blood , along with you? Until it destroys the shit in the whole world?
    Such a war, which is in fact a high-tech "meat grinder", Russia could not win even if for the last 22 years it has been expanding production and the army, instead of reducing them. No one can win such a war. Because this is not a war, but the industrial destruction of the people and the state by the Anglo-Saxons.
    The goal of the Anglos in this war is to weaken Europe with the hands and blood of Russia, to make Europe their production appendage, and to appropriate the resources of Russia, destroyed by European hands. Even if there is something left of Russia in this war, the Americans will finish it off, there is not the slightest doubt about it
    If this is a real people's war, then it should be directed against our main enemy - the Anglo-Saxons, in order to force him to retreat in all positions and withdraw his gang from our borders. The "meat grinder" by the Anglo-Saxons will be stopped. Only then will it be possible to complete the NWO itself.
    1. Nikolaevich I Offline Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I (Vladimir) 24 October 2022 16: 43
      +5
      Quote: Alexey Davydov
      If you turn the NWO into a people's war, then you need to change the goals.

      We need to change the rotten ruling regime!
      1. tkot973 Offline tkot973
        tkot973 (Konstantin) 25 October 2022 10: 44
        +3
        Something I think that he was not rotten, but was originally rotten. After the surrender of the USSR, traitors finally occupied the seats of power, they are also the future oligarchy. And they haven't gone anywhere in all this time. They sit there to this day. And with them in the company of Putin and went to war. And what, the rear is securely covered. And won.
        One military acquaintance expressed a bad idea - what if the NWO was launched for the final drain of Russia.
        That's it.
        1. tkot973 Offline tkot973
          tkot973 (Konstantin) 25 October 2022 10: 47
          +1
          One more moment. As for me, the traitors began to settle much earlier than the collapse of the Union, I think that the process started with the death of a great man - Stalin.
    2. borisvt Offline borisvt
      borisvt (boris) 26 October 2022 11: 59
      +1
      I agree almost completely. But here's how to unleash a war against the Anglo-Saxons without nuclear weapons, excuse me? They're not afraid of a damn thing, yet.
      I believe that before taking on the Anglo-Saxons without nuclear weapons, and this will be possible only with a gradual approach to their borders through Venezuela and / or Cuba and / or Honduras, they will still have to cope with the nationalists of Ukraine. And even if in order to conquer this large country, everything will have to be smashed to smithereens, so that Svidomo are simply afraid to raise their heads, for decades to come.
      And there is nothing to be afraid of losing some love for the fraternal Russian people, from this love, you know - as in the joke about Malvina and Pinocchio - something in splinters
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 27 October 2022 19: 40
        0
        You are in favor of filling the "meat grinder". This is a "cannibalistic" recipe in relation to Russia, but even it will not work, because the Anglo-Saxons are ready to expand military operations in the existing theater and can open new ones. They will be grateful to you, and they will finish Russia earlier.
        As for "unleashing a war against the Anglo-Saxons without nuclear weapons," then this is out of the question.
        It is only about forcing them to retreat to the 1997 positions, as they were already told, by threatening their own home with nuclear war. In order to destroy it in case of disobedience, as you yourself know, we do not need to come to their borders.
        This, figuratively speaking, is a grenade in the hands of a person sentenced to death, as it was already in 1962. But she is an effective tool for influencing the executioner, and, as then, she changes the fate of the condemned
        1. borisvt Offline borisvt
          borisvt (boris) 27 October 2022 22: 16
          +2
          Listen, what does a meat grinder mean? but how do you order us to act differently, leave a piece of square land, so that the scum continues to rage and threaten and launch rockets there? Not bloodthirsty, but the situation is exactly that, you need to take it entirely.
          Now about nuclear weapons, I completely agree with you, without a threat to the amers, they will push and push further, deeper, more painfully. How to force a retreat? Talking about it - there was a lot of chatter about red lines, interventions and so on. Remember the very first weeks of the NWO GDP with the girls from the Aeroflot on March 8 stated that "if they interfere, it doesn't matter whose members they are." Well?
          And I understand the Commander-in-Chief, to apply in Ukraine - he is right, it makes no sense. Apply in the USA - yes, there seems to be no solid reason. So we take a steam bath, we threaten, and we ourselves extract the T55 from the storerooms and announce mobilizations.
          The can flatteringly claims that no, no, we are so afraid of a direct collision, but they themselves raise the degree, the water is getting hotter, and we can’t do anything ((
          From my point of view, either we are decisively conquering Ukraine, or we need to pinch amers regardless of their threats, that is, drop satellites, drop planes, sink nearby ships and other real steps instead of chatter. So far, it seems to me that Ukraine is cheaper and safer.
          1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
            Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 29 October 2022 03: 02
            +1
            but how do you order to act differently, leave a piece of square, so that the scum continues to rage and threaten missiles there

            The key to understanding the situation is the implementation of the Anglo-Saxon plan, which INCLUDES our active participation in the hostilities in Ukraine. Any of our "successes" in Ukraine advance their plan.
            The more actively we act there - the faster it advances, the closer we are to its next phase - the war with Europe (NATO).

            How to force a retreat? Talking about it - there was a lot of chatter about red lines, interventions and so on.

            The real threat with strategic nuclear weapons looks completely different, because it was originally designed to achieve the maximum effect.
            Instruments of the USSR in 1962:
            - a sharp rise by us to the limit of the probability of starting a nuclear war first (deploying an advanced missile division in Cuba and transferring to it the right to make an independent decision on launches)
            - transfer of nuclear forces to the highest degree of readiness - "finger on the button"
            - a "warning shot" with a nuclear weapon (R-14U missile) across the whole country with a regular detonation of its nuclear charge (Tulip exercise)
            I assure you it will work now. Deployment of an advanced division is not required now, but defiantly raising the probability of us starting a nuclear war to the limit can be done in many other ways, using regular nuclear missiles
            1. borisvt Offline borisvt
              borisvt (boris) 29 October 2022 08: 37
              0
              - transfer of nuclear forces to the highest degree of readiness - "finger on the button"
              - a "warning shot" with a nuclear weapon (R-14U missile) across the whole country with a regular detonation of its nuclear charge (Tulip exercise)

              measures, of course, serious. However, I think the first one will not work - it was already done in the first days after the start of the NWO, and the second one - I also think it's a horror story for ourselves. To shy away nuclear tests on your territory? That's it, a pleasant surprise! Not enough for us was Semipalatinsk ((
              A possible response to such actions is an external screech from the other side and bewilderment of the allies, and latently - an internal increase in the supply of weapons, and so on. shouting about nuclear terrorism.
              And again - well, we slammed the "tulip" into our own territory, and at the same time stop the battle and leave the square in its former quality, right? - Oh well
              1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 30 October 2022 01: 37
                +1
                You missed the main, fundamental, tool:
                - a sharp rise by us to the limit of the probability of starting a nuclear war first
                As for the second one:

                However, I think the first one will not work - it was already done in the first days after the start of the NWO

                You're not right. In the first days after the NMD, readiness was simply increased and Lavrov specifically explained that this was readiness for a retaliatory strike and it could not be interpreted in any other way. Such reservations do not accompany the threat of nuclear war and the demonstrative readiness to start it. Agree Boris.
                As for the third dish, if the first two are served "hot" enough, then the third will hit the spot.
              2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 30 October 2022 10: 21
                +1
                And again - well, we slammed the "tulip" into our own territory, and at the same time stop the battle and leave the square in its former quality, right? - Oh well

                I do not propose to curtail NWO - I say that in order to advance and complete it, it is necessary first to force the Anglo-Saxons to retreat by the threat of a nuclear war, and if they do not retreat, to destroy them. To receive a retaliatory strike after the destruction of the main enemy is better than the guaranteed, victorious destruction of Russia by him in the slaughter of her war against Europe, which, like us, was set up by the Anglo-Saxons. With this death, we ourselves will create evil, and help Evil become stronger, move one step further and capture the rest of the world
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  4. Vladimir80 Offline Vladimir80
    Vladimir80 24 October 2022 12: 50
    +4
    The next "if only, yes if only."
    Now it is obvious to everyone that we do not have the strength to defeat the outskirts. To overwhelm the enemy with mobilized people is another evil idea of ​​​​those who want to finally finish off Russia: when they go in mass numbers of "funeral" - the end of power will come, and it will not necessarily be in the form of some kind of revolution, it may look like a collapse of local government, a mess, disobedience and disobedience.
    "People's" svo was not from the very beginning, and the support of society was not the operation itself, but our soldiers, defenders, residents of Donbass. Now the ratings of the authorities are flying down, the population is leaving, i.e. the right moment is doubly missed.
    1. Peace Peace. Offline Peace Peace.
      Peace Peace. (Tumar Tumar) 25 October 2022 06: 19
      0
      In all channels, military officials spoke about the prevention of any provocations, even hints in our direction, and the population was guided by this. That is, any conflict was resolved at an early stage, up to and most likely guaranteed with the use of "any" weapons systems, regardless of the territory.
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 27 October 2022 21: 50
        +2
        Apparently, as long as possible, Putin relies on this and other similar stereotypes of public opinion, which we have learned from the Soviet era.
        The people expected honesty and selflessness from the government, as required by the situation in the country, as it was in the best Soviet times. The authorities were not going to meet these standards, but nevertheless, they did not dispel the expectations of the people, but relied on them as long as it was possible. Now it's all coming out into the light and becoming obvious
  5. Kuramori Reika Offline Kuramori Reika
    Kuramori Reika (Kuramori Reika) 24 October 2022 12: 52
    -1
    To the "people's"?)) Laughter and sin) This is when the party "let's agree" to the last supplied gas and oil, and still supplies them to those who transfer weapons to our enemies? Or fight instead of those who tied the army's hands from the first day and made some kind of game for 8 months? She is not a folk
    I will not even think about fighting for such a country and for such a population.
    1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 24 October 2022 13: 47
      +1
      Quote: Kuramori Reika
      I won’t even think about fighting for such a country and for such a population

      So, judging by the avatar, you were not there. Moreover, they are fighting not for the country and the population, but for the Motherland. And you are completely unfamiliar with history. Otherwise, before writing such a heresy, they would remember how the same serfs fought in the Patriotic War of 1812, how they went to the militia during the Great Troubles of the early XNUMXth century, when the very existence of Russia was at stake.
      1. Nelton Online Nelton
        Nelton (Oleg) 24 October 2022 17: 06
        -2
        Quote: k7k8
        fought in the Patriotic War of 1812, as they went to the militia during the Great Troubles of the early XNUMXth century, when the very existence of Russia was at stake.

        so two big differences...
        the adversary invaded our territory and tramples on the shrines in the heart of Russia -

        our king was shown a fig, we will all die to the last

        That is why now it is necessary to protect the inhabitants of Kherson, evacuate and provide,
        and the inhabitants of Chernigov - to bomb, to deprive them of light and water.
        And call the bombing of Chernigov "war with America."

        Of all the tasks voiced, only one was obviously solved -
        ensure the safety of the inhabitants of the allied LDNR.
        It was decided by that very evacuation, much cheaper than an attempt to move the font line.

        Everything else is Bonapartism.
      2. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
        Grei grin (Gray Grin) 28 October 2022 19: 58
        0
        and here you are wrong! read about the Patriotic War of 1812, the peasants in the rear rebelled and refused to recruit, they were forced with sticks and beatings, they went into the forests and waited for the French to come and free them from slavery (there was a republic in France and there was no smell of serfs there)!
    2. GIS Offline GIS
      GIS (Ildus) 24 October 2022 13: 53
      -1
      Well, no one is asking you to fight for me. if your relatives are not here and you do not need Russia as a homeland, then yes, "don't even think about it."
      I repeat, if you do not live here and this is not your country.
      about the party "let's agree" - here I agree with you, and I agree with many commentators - it's time for the GDP to show them their place, and it is clearly not in the government. Until that happens, they will go out of their way to advance their peace agenda."
      ps just don’t need me to bend that GDP is at the same time with them, don’t waste your time
      and yes, a derogatory attitude towards the president of my country, speaks only of your complexes, citizen Kuramori Reika
  6. Muscool Offline Muscool
    Muscool (Glory) 24 October 2022 13: 02
    +7
    Putin should) if he heard this, he would probably laugh in his face and say: son, I do as I see fit, and don’t forget to sit in a dirty trench and buy uniforms before sending. And if, under the leadership of fools, you don’t want to attack another area in the forehead, we can put you in the zone. After all, you’re not a general-bureaucrat, it’s only they who can drown the flagship of the fleet and don’t blow further into your mustache
  7. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
    Grei grin (Gray Grin) 24 October 2022 13: 29
    +13
    A people's war will only be with a country which is ruled by the people, and not hucksters, thieving bureaucrats and a fifth column! The Russian people do not need the Vlasov tricolor on the Kremlin towers and over Kyiv, the people need the Red Banner soaked in the blood of our great ancestors, the people need the USSR, which, despite the referendum, was taken from it by traitors at a booze in Belovezhskaya Pushcha! There will be no victory under duress, the soldiers do not see the idea for which they are dying, there is no patriotism, and the youth of several generations for 30 years of plundering the country and studying from Soros's textbooks do not know what patriotism is and will not fight voluntarily! If we all want to save the country, the people should have power, he was, is and will be the real patriot of his country! Ordinary people collect from their miserable income to help the front, and at least one bureaucrat or oligarch gave at least a penny? These nits are busy thinking about saving what they have stolen from the people and would have fled long ago and betrayed the country if they weren’t under sanctions!

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    2. GIS Offline GIS
      GIS (Ildus) 24 October 2022 14: 02
      -1
      Vlasov tricolor????
      This is certainly not a new topic, but maybe it's enough to repeat all sorts of crap ???
      Vlasov used the style of the St. Andrew's flag, namely with a blue oblique St. Andrew's cross.
      It will no longer be possible to restore the USSR, no matter how you, me and many of our fellow citizens would like.
      in relation to the oligarchs and officials (who sleep and see the restoration of their calm and well-fed life on theft and kickbacks), what do you propose here? just realistic please
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 24 October 2022 15: 59
        +9
        Vlasov tricolor????
        This is certainly not a new topic, but maybe it's enough to repeat all sorts of crap ???
        Vlasov used the style of the St. Andrew's flag, namely with a blue oblique St. Andrew's cross.

        It means something else (if you do not understand). It was under this flag that Yeltsin and his team carried out a betrayal of Russia for 10 years, and handed over its interests to the West. We will not talk about what is being done now.
        This is where the analogy with Vlasov lies. In my opinion - it is quite convincing.

        It will no longer be possible to restore the USSR, no matter how you, me and many of our fellow citizens would like.

        It will be possible to restore the USSR, since it collapsed due to an error in the model, and the Chinese experience clearly and convincingly shows this.
        We are now fighting not with Ukrainian fascism and not even with the Anglo-Saxons - our confrontation is global, and goes with their model of subjugation of the world. To this model, which they are implementing in the world, we now oppose only our rejection of it. And that's it!
        This is not enough. You need to have a real replacement. Only another model can defeat the model of subjugation of the world of the Anglo-Saxons in this world.
        The only model of a positive transformation of the world that has real support in the world now, as before, is the revival of the world socialist system.
        This is a step towards the creation of a just society on the planet, based on the education of a new person. This is the salvation of humanity from destruction and its entry onto the path of development. The foundation of this system already exists. Not only in the world, but also in ourselves, our history, as well as in world memory - as a potential
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 24 October 2022 20: 40
          +1
          I wrote about the error in the model of socialism in the USSR and how to fix it in the article: "How socialism can get out of the trap of the "blind spot""
          https://dzen.ru/a/Y0SZQ_JEl1tQX2NG?&
  8. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 24 October 2022 13: 34
    +2
    Wars were won when the war was fought on the territory of Russia. Then the people rose.
    1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 24 October 2022 13: 50
      +4
      According to your logic, the Great Patriotic War had to end (yes, victoriously), reaching the borders of the USSR. And Europe? Yes, and figs with her!
      1. zenion Offline zenion
        zenion (zinovy) 25 October 2022 13: 52
        0
        If the USSR started a war, then there would be no people's war. Germany had more prospects at that time. The United States would help Germany, as it is now helping Ukraine.
  9. Barabas Offline Barabas
    Barabas 24 October 2022 13: 35
    -4
    Russia cannot go forward, its "friends" will not understand it, but it cannot go back for the same reasons. Trap?
    1. Peace Peace. Offline Peace Peace.
      Peace Peace. (Tumar Tumar) 25 October 2022 06: 26
      +1
      The "button" would decide everything once and for all, and the Earth would breathe easier without the rabid Anglo-Saxon-Jewish elite.
  10. k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 24 October 2022 13: 36
    0
    Quote: Sergey Marzhetsky
    they don’t even corny have uniforms and ammunition, which the called-up have to buy on their own

    Mobilized buy:
    1. something that is not required by the security standards. Yes, not everything that we would like is supposed to be according to these standards. Not everything that is included in these standards suits the quality of the soldiers. Many people want, for example, the well-publicized thermal underwear instead of cotton / fleece / flannelette. Many people want a body armor not with steel plates, but something cooler and lighter. But these are already questions for those who develop supply standards and uniforms. Yes, supply standards should be reviewed taking into account modern requirements. Yes, it is necessary to find funding for these requirements and wishes. Yes, it is necessary to divide the terms for wearing field uniforms into peacetime and wartime. Yes, you still need to find those responsible for the shortage of 1,2 million kits and send them to the front with the very first marching battalion in shorts and T-shirts and without training (they don’t need it - they are all military personnel). In the end, it is necessary for the rear / supply officers and everyone involved in this disgrace to switch the "HEAD-ZHOPPA" toggle switch to the "HEAD" position. But to arrange Yaroslavna's ecumenical lamentation on this occasion is probably enough.
    2. in addition, many people buy second sets of uniforms and underwear, so that they have something to replace in case of something (and there are so many such cases)
    1. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
      Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 24 October 2022 14: 00
      +3
      Nnnado, it is necessary, it is necessary..... blah blah blah.... Who needs it? You? To me? ... neighbor? Bureaucrats of this nennnada!
    2. GIS Offline GIS
      GIS (Ildus) 24 October 2022 14: 09
      +5
      exactly.
      especially:

      you still need to find those responsible for the shortage of 1,2 million kits and send them to the front with the very first marching battalion in shorts and T-shirts and without training

      I think ALL the inhabitants of our country will agree with this (well, with the exception of these culprits)
      + military commissars who could not prepare in time for the reception of those mobilized to the training and coordination centers (they brought men, but there are no places for accommodation in the barracks - bl.... they didn’t know that people from all over the country were sent to them ???? they didn’t know that we were mobilizing and they would train the mobilized in their Saratov region ??? if they didn’t know, then those who sent the mobilized to the wrong address should be added to the battalion you propose. there is both a surname and a name in such cases
      1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
        k7k8 (vic) 24 October 2022 14: 11
        -2
        I fully support. But I clarified only on supply failures. Everything else has already been chewed more than once.
      2. i232323b Offline i232323b
        i232323b (Igor) 24 October 2022 22: 51
        +5
        Yes, they did not know about mobilization, and they stole everything that was possible, because they firmly believed the words of Commander-in-Chief Putin, who until September 20 tried to say that there was and will not be any hidden or explicit mobilization .. that great, trained, hardened a professional contract army that has gone through a bunch of exercises and hot spots, armed with the latest equipment praised at all shows and exhibitions, it turns out that everything is over, since (what a shame) prisoners are recruited for the war .. and here you are mobilized, and even what .. who would have thought from the military commissars that the great helmsman would set them up like that with his lies.
  11. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 24 October 2022 13: 51
    +1
    Duma members and authorities have protected themselves from conscription, from risks, they are snatching up new career positions...
    Well, the erectorate can also be agitated for the "people's war" .... not remembering the children of the elite in NATO and the Duma members clapping for the amers .......
  12. Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 24 October 2022 14: 19
    0
    Marxism defines the state as a political organization of the economically dominant class, of which there are only two - the oppressors and the oppressed, and which of them is the ruling one in the Russian Federation?
    The capitalist state performs two main functions - internal and external. The internal consists in maintaining the dominance of one class over another, and the external in the defense of one's own productive forces and the capture of others.
    The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are stronger than ever after the coup d'etat committed by Yeltsin and his gang, but any special operation implies a short-term nature and does not require the mobilization of the entire economy of the state. War is another matter, it is protracted and requires the mobilization of all available resources.
    The verbiage of Mr. Kirienkov about the people's war is addressed to the wrong address.
    The main reason for the failure of the NWO is the strategic miscalculation of the political leadership, which expected the support of millions of Ukrainian citizens who hate the regime in Ukraine, but they miscalculated.
    In addition to the miscalculations of the political leadership, the oligarchic capital of the Russian Federation is interested in the safety of Ukrainian transport communications and infrastructure facilities, which tied the actions of the Russian Armed Forces hand and foot, and NATO made it possible to freely supply Ukraine with any necessary means to wage war with the Russian Federation.
    The economic and production potential of the Russian Federation is incomparable with NATO's - V.V. Putin many years ago set the task of entering the top five economically developed capitalist state entities of the world, which are the USA-Japan-Germany-Britain-France, but this task turned out to be impossible. At the same time, in connection with the NMD in Ukraine, the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation is working at full capacity in three shifts, while the NATO one continues to work without stress in the usual manner. Together with the political and economic blockade, this gives NATO a reason to wage a war of attrition on the Russian Federation with proxy hands, with all the consequences that follow from this - undermining internal social stability and “decolonization”.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 25 October 2022 10: 20
      0
      Sekavar well, you write nonsense. Lord, where do these come from? Exactly from Ukraine.
  13. sannyhome Offline sannyhome
    sannyhome 24 October 2022 15: 54
    +2
    after the "pogrom" perpetrated by Serdyukov's reforms

    This phrase resets the entire article. Serdyukov left in 2012, more than 10 years have passed.
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    2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 24 October 2022 20: 53
      +5
      This phrase resets the entire article. Serdyukov left in 2012, more than 10 years have passed.

      Serdyukov was chosen by Putin. Not only chose - he set a task for him and controlled the progress of its implementation. Serdyukov complied and left. But Putin stayed. That's the whole point.
      Serdyukov had nothing to do with it - he completed the task in accordance with the instructions of the boss, with his professional and moral qualities. Putin bears full responsibility as a leader. I do not think that he made a mistake or overlooked - he does not look like an idiota. It's just how it was meant to be
    3. Nikolaevich I Offline Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I (Vladimir) 24 October 2022 21: 06
      +3
      Quote: sannyhome
      Serdyukov left in 2012, more than 10 years have passed

      Here you see how cool you shat! And 10 years was not enough to fix it! And all the problems one way or another converge on Putin!
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 24 October 2022 21: 15
        +2
        And 10 years was not enough to fix

        There was no fix
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    4. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 25 October 2022 10: 24
      0
      And this is all do not care. Serdyukov is like a master key from all locks!
  14. zloybond Offline zloybond
    zloybond (steppenwolf) 24 October 2022 17: 26
    +6
    At first they fought with one hand, in white gloves. At the same time, untouchable goals were set. In parallel, our aligarhs in the outskirts are doing their business. Then staged a bride with negotiations. They took time. They gave the Enemy to recover, mobilize, build up defenses, train the reserve, and deliver military assistance. At the same time, our own troops were not shod, not dressed, with mosquitoes on their hands, but without copters, nightlights, thermal imagers .... In the care of volunteers, under the bravura speeches of the generals that we have everything .... Now get up a huge country .
    It’s strange how the country gets up, only you can’t hear our cunning aligarhs on whose side they are. You can’t see how they proudly hand over uniforms, nightlights, heatpacks, copters to the troops ... But they are always ready for negotiations and continue to drive wagonloads of goods to supporters of the terrorist Okrainsky regime ... A strange way to support the Motherland and people.
    The banks have not been able to force the mobilized to close loans.
    10 years have passed since the time of Serduchka!
    At parades, our Army is dressed and shod with brand new weapons.
    And the mobilized are given rags, the front is supplied by volunteers.
    The general responsible for the failure of logistics is sent as an inspector ??????
    Endless chatter about strikes on decision-making centers and the simultaneous readiness for negotiations ... And somehow it’s not clear that we will fight with agents of influence ???
    Shapito circus.
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  15. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 24 October 2022 17: 50
    +1
    By the way, in the news and channels that describe the criminal and lawsuits, they say that under the guise of the SVO, the redistribution of property has already begun. they seize, take out, seize, forgive the terms and nullify the old criminal cases ...
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  16. i232323b Offline i232323b
    i232323b (Igor) 24 October 2022 23: 12
    0

    In my opinion, that says it all. And it is true.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 25 October 2022 00: 06
      0
      This is not true, but the limitations of the individualist.
      If you do not fight with the enemy "shoulder to shoulder" together with everyone, you will have to (and he too) "for the army" together with everyone go to the concentration camp of death. With his family - "like everyone else."
      Man lives in society. It does not provide for a separate destiny for individualists.
      The Chinese say this:

      There is no cold place in a boiler of boiling water
  17. Emil Offline Emil
    Emil (Emil) 25 October 2022 10: 33
    -1
    Opus author

    To sit simply on the defensive, hiding behind 300 thousand mobilized reservists ...

    - to put it mildly, in 'military affairs' full ......
  18. Panzer1962 Offline Panzer1962
    Panzer1962 (Panzer1962) 25 October 2022 14: 07
    +2
    But will the oligarchs allow the war to turn into a people's war? After all, this is a guaranteed loss by them of everything "acquired by overwork", which turned out to be over the hill. Neither Stalin, nor Molotov, nor Malenkov had anything over the hill, they could not imagine themselves outside of RUSSIA-USSR. But modern bureaucrats and oligarchs do not think of themselves outside the West. And they will lay down with bones, but will not allow anything to be done that will finally harm them. Well, the supreme power against the oligarchs will never act.
  19. Panzer1962 Offline Panzer1962
    Panzer1962 (Panzer1962) 25 October 2022 14: 12
    +2
    Quote: zloybond
    At first they fought with one hand, in white gloves. At the same time, untouchable goals were set. In parallel, our aligarhs in the outskirts are doing their business. Then staged a bride with negotiations. They took time. They gave the Enemy to recover, mobilize, build up defenses, train the reserve, and deliver military assistance. At the same time, our own troops were not shod, not dressed, with mosquitoes on their hands, but without copters, nightlights, thermal imagers .... In the care of volunteers, under the bravura speeches of the generals that we have everything .... Now get up a huge country .
    It’s strange how the country gets up, only you can’t hear our cunning aligarhs on whose side they are. You can’t see how they proudly hand over uniforms, nightlights, heatpacks, copters to the troops ... But they are always ready for negotiations and continue to drive wagonloads of goods to supporters of the terrorist Okrainsky regime ... A strange way to support the Motherland and people.
    The banks have not been able to force the mobilized to close loans.
    10 years have passed since the time of Serduchka!
    At parades, our Army is dressed and shod with brand new weapons.
    And the mobilized are given rags, the front is supplied by volunteers.
    The general responsible for the failure of logistics is sent as an inspector ??????
    Endless chatter about strikes on decision-making centers and the simultaneous readiness for negotiations ... And somehow it’s not clear that we will fight with agents of influence ???
    Shapito circus.

    Moreover, Friedman and Aven donated 150 lyam "greenery" to the fund ... No, not the fund for supporting the SVO, but to the Fund for the Defense of the Reich. And nothing! No pressing, no arrests of the property of these characters. Well, how can you touch these very nice people.
  20. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
    Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 25 October 2022 16: 07
    +1
    Then President Putin, as Supreme Commander-in-Chief, must take personal responsibility and declare that there will be no more ... except surrender ...

    This will not happen. All their actions are carefully given the status of legitimacy, everything is repeatedly explained to their "partners". The rest in such a paradigm is secondary. Therefore, actions and further actions will be "reciprocal", after reaching a certain "critical mass" of terrorist attacks (the size of which is unknown to anyone except one head).

    hiding behind 300 thousand mobilized reservists means begging for even more problems

    have collected more. and yes, it is clear to everyone that this stage is not the last. And the next one - right after the new "ukronashup". Getting ready. It will all be so difficult.
    But there is a plus - after the end of the war, a minimum of militant Ukrainians will remain in the new territories. True, we will also be thinned out a little ... After all, it is also clear that the loss of 6 thousand people. the picture is too incomplete.
  21. usm5 Offline usm5
    usm5 (George) 25 October 2022 16: 18
    0
    A wonderful illustration of the properties of our people - from delight to curses against our government. "Oligarchs and bureaucracy" were under any system and power, because this is the governing layer of the human community. That's how nature arranged it. The human community cannot exist otherwise. One can only discuss the effectiveness of the control layer, but in Russia it is no worse than in any developed country in the world.
    And the war that started on our borders has no "banal logical explanations" from the point of view of philistine logic. It is a consequence of the crisis of human civilization, which came into conflict with the fundamental laws of nature. In such cases, nature knows how to influence the mass consciousness so much that for an outside observer people seem insane. Many of these contradictions have accumulated, but I will name two main ones - the overpopulation of the planet and the consumer position of human communities that imagined themselves to be masters of nature. But we (people) were created by it as servants (a kind of tool in the face of thinking matter) to fight what threatens it (nature). Our mother Earth has more than once demolished "presumptuous biological species" and "supposedly dominant human civilizations" from its surface. And we are only at the beginning of her current showdown with human civilizations, as a result of which communities that meet her requirements will remain or all will disappear. What I want to advise you dear friends. If the war has begun, you must choose the side that is closer to you and try to win this war with all your might in order to have a chance to survive yourself or your loved ones.
  22. Storm_2022 Offline Storm_2022
    Storm_2022 (Storm _2022) 25 October 2022 22: 53
    0
    It suddenly became clear that after the "pogrom" perpetrated by Serdyukov's reforms, the mobilization system was not ready to quickly put under arms the million reservists required here and now. They all need to be supported and trained somewhere, they don’t even have corny uniforms and ammunition, which those called up have to buy on their own.

    I’m not tired of writing nonsense about Serdyukov, he hasn’t been in the Ministry of Defense for 10 years, and for the 4 years that he led the Defense Ministry, President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin were his immediate leaders.
    If Serdyukov created all the reforms of his own free will, and for 4 years no one corrected or fired him, then they are useless leaders, and if Serdyukov followed their instructions, then "these two from the casket ...." are to blame in the first place....
    Since Serdyukov was not fired and imprisoned for his activities as Minister of Defense, but was appointed to a high position in Rostec, it means that he nevertheless diligently followed the instructions of his "bosses".
    For the last 10 years, since November 6, 2012, the Defense Ministry has been in charge of Shoigu, why does no one remember him and does not direct all claims regarding the current mess, theft and collapse in the army to him?
  23. Alex D Offline Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 26 October 2022 09: 32
    +2
    The people must restore the USSR. To do this, the people need to organize an appropriate referendum. Until the power of the oligarchs is removed, nothing will change.
  24. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 26 October 2022 10: 34
    +1
    We remember the people when the authorities completely screwed up both at the front and in the rear. And before that, people were almost not interested in them. All attention was on the respected business and bureaucratic elite, which either betrayed immediately. or showed their worthlessness. But even now, many of them remain untouchable.
  25. Albanec791 Offline Albanec791
    Albanec791 (Anton Novitsky) 26 October 2022 13: 13
    -1
    Just do not forget that the projective West has more people, and you don’t even have civil aviation left.
  26. Foe Pshekov Offline Foe Pshekov
    Foe Pshekov (Arkady) 26 October 2022 23: 30
    +1
    In order for the war to become "people's" a revision of the results of privatization is needed. The people were thrown, robbed. Three hundred oligarchs have torn apart all the wealth of the country among themselves. Take away from the oligarchs everything that belongs to the people, and perhaps the people will react differently to the NWO
  27. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
    Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) 27 October 2022 06: 32
    +1
    Joke. Wants, but can not - impotent. Maybe, but he does not want to - a scoundrel. When there are no impotents and scoundrels in the Russian government, then we will win.
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