"Great tank default": how long will the armored vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine last


A few days ago, requests from the Kyiv regime led to yet another military-political embarrassment. On October 16, the controversial former Ukrainian ambassador to Germany, Melnyk, said in an interview with Die Welt that Germany needs to create a “tank alliance” in order to start supplying the Armed Forces of Ukraine with Leopard 2 tanks from all over Europe in the near future. But the answer of the head of the office of Scholz Schmidt, which was posted by Bild, was not only disappointing, but almost as sharp, like many statements of Melnik himself: “you expect the same miracles from the Leopard-2 as the Nazis from the V-2.” Not for the first time, Germany refused to directly supply tanks to Ukraine.


The problem, meanwhile, is very burning. The Ukrainian "offensives" of September and October, although objectively brought significant territorial successes, cost the fascist troops very dearly. And the resources of "live meat" still cover the losses in excess (although the morale of the next waves of "invaders" is steadily sagging against the background of the mass slaughter of the previous ones), then the tension with the combat technique becomes more and more stinging.

In the past two weeks, against the background of large-scale Russian infrastructure strikes, the topic of air defense has become especially relevant for Ukrainian fascists - more precisely, the exhaustion of the means of this very air defense. In a recently published Washington Post material, Ukrainians are lamenting that they have already used up most of the anti-aircraft missiles that are alive, and the remaining ones are already unusable. Although there is a certain amount of misinformation in this statement, there is also a lot of truth: almost every attempt to repel a raid by Russian (or Iranian, if you like) "Geraniums" leads to new cases of the fall of failed S-300 or "Buk" missiles on Ukrainian cities, at the same time, they often “knock down” residential buildings.

But no less painful is the fact of exhaustion and offensive means too. Only the "account by video" shows the daily irretrievable losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 10-15 combat vehicles, of which 2-3 tanks. But there are still technical losses: the materiel, as you know, is “not iron”, and the resources for its restoration are not unlimited.

Hans, are we villains?!


To date, foreign "additional assistance" is already the main source of combat power of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Although not all of it corresponds to the magical "NATO standard", but without it, the Ukrainian fleet of military equipment will melt before the end of the year, with the current level of losses.

Against the background of this introduction, the position of the main continental “allies” of the Kyiv regime, Germany and France, is becoming more and more uncomfortable. On the one hand, the yellow-blaky kept woman and her star-striped “daddy” demand more tanks, good and different, from the pillars of the European Union, and on the other hand, there are literally no tanks, at least in the form of a reserve, which is not a pity to give . About 600 vehicles for two "great powers" - no matter how you look at it, especially since the share of combat-ready vehicles is traditionally about half (the Germans have accurate data for the fall of 2020, then only 43% of the "Leopards" of the Bundeswehr were ready to leave the hangars on alarm).

The funniest thing is that the German official mentioned above absolutely accurately described the aspirations of the Ukrainians: they seem to really seriously believe that Western technology has some kind of miraculous properties and is able to radically change the situation at the front. But even if we accept that Western technology is "iron" superior to Russian in terms of characteristics (which is far from indisputable), 20-30 units of "Leopards" or "Leclercs" will not be enough to create a qualitative superiority at least in one area, and Europeans would be greedy to give the APU more.

Actually, zrada occurred even in the matter of bartering equipment within NATO. As we remember, at the beginning of the summer, Poland undertook to transfer up to 300 tanks to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, not counting other armored vehicles and weapons, on the condition that these “non-combat losses” would be compensated by vehicles from the German “chancellor’s reserve”. As far as one can judge, the Poles fulfilled their part of the deal (in any case, there were many Polish T-72s of various variations in the Armed Forces of Ukraine), but the punctual Germans did not. In the outgoing week, the story came to its end: the Polish Army refused to supply equipment from Germany, since only 40 tanks were able to gnaw out (apparently, from among the 55 non-modernized Leopard 2A4s that were in reserve) and it seems that in a dubious technical condition.

A similar deal between Germany and Greece is still underway. According to an agreement concluded back in the summer and then revised (downwards) in exchange for 40 German Marder 1A3 BMPs, the Greek army should send to Ukraine the same number of BMP-1s acquired in the early 1990s. on the sale of military property of the former GDR. So far, only the first batch of 6 vehicles has been sent, and when and if this deal is brought to an end, it will be possible to judge whether the famous German-Polish "friendship" became the cause of the breakdown with the tanks.

However, there are also active lobbyists of Ukrainian requests in Germany, first of all, the already famous member of the Bundestag Strack-Zimmermann, who is the head of the parliamentary defense committee (and, accordingly, saw-cut and rollback interaction with the military-industrial complex). It is not clear whether under the pressure of her associates, or still "Uncle Sam", Germany is still increasing the supply of light armored vehicles to Kyiv. On October 16, an echelon with additional PzH-2000 self-propelled guns (at least 4 units) and Fuchs wheeled armored personnel carriers, most likely intended for the Nazis, was seen on German railways. In addition, there are reports that several highly automated 155-mm self-propelled guns on a Rheinmetall wheeled chassis will go to the front line from the UK. These machines are still experimental, so it's a sacred thing to run them on Ivans.

As for France, earlier in the battles in Ukraine, similar to the German armored personnel carrier VAB, also a legacy of the Cold War, were already seen. There are a fair number of such vehicles in the French army, and now they are just being partially replaced by more modern equipment, so perhaps the Ukrainians will get some more of these armored personnel carriers. And in order to get rid of the requirement “give me tanks!”, The French can theoretically throw in a few dozen old “colonial” cannon armored vehicles ERC-90 and / or more solid AMX-10R.

But they may not give up. After all, Paris has already gifted Kyiv with a dozen Crotale air defense systems this week, and although the equipment is also old, it is up-to-date, so decorum is respected.

The extinction of the "menagerie"


Actually, not for a long time newsthat Ukraine has become a real cemetery of equipment from the times of Brezhnev and Reagan, and judging by the composition of the new trenches of military assistance, the “peppy old men” are already running out. In particular, the latest announced American package includes 200 protected MaxxPro vehicles instead of armored personnel carriers - veterans of the Second Iraq War.

There is every reason to believe that further deliveries of light armored vehicles will include more and more of these vehicles. Similar Turkish Kirpis, German Dingos, British Mastiffs and Huskys have repeatedly become the heroes of photo shoots, it was reported about the imminent transfer of the French Bastions, and finally, the armored HMMWV aka Humvee / Hammer is represented in the Armed Forces of Ukraine in many ways.

What does this mean? Nothing good, and not only for our troops, but for the Nazis too. The fact is that all these are, in essence, paramilitary police patrol cars designed for use on the roads. They are not a full-fledged replacement for armored personnel carriers, even wheeled ones, primarily because of their low cross-country ability. Of course, you can fight on them, and even successfully: in particular, the September successes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Izyum direction were largely provided by “motorized cavalry” on armored cars and “carts” - but if the weather were wetter, it would not have been possible to cut through the impassability so freely .

In the meantime, there is just a long period of first mudslides, and then snow, and the more wheeled armored vehicles there are in the APU fleet, the more they will be tied to the roads. But this “attachment” (albeit still more mental than technical) is one of the most important reasons for the heavy losses of the Nazis in technology: there is a lot of evidence of how they try to “advance” literally in marching columns along the roads and along them, becoming comfortable purpose. What will happen if, in principle, they lose the opportunity to cut through the fields?

But if not this, then the "invaders" will soon simply have no other options for vehicles, not counting handicraft armored civilian vehicles (which also do not feel very good in the mud). In addition to the depletion of stocks of combat-ready equipment from the "partners", Ukraine itself is deprived of the opportunity to restore the damaged one: during the infrastructure strikes, some specialized enterprises closest to the front were hit (in particular, in Kharkov and Nikolaev), Soviet repair funds are exhausted, and for imported equipment they are also did not have.

In addition, the evacuation of wrecked and abandoned vehicles from the battlefield has become a problem: Russian troops are expanding the practice of “afterburning” equipment left by the enemy, including with the help of drones. Back in September, the operator of the UAV "Phantom of Kherson" became famous in the southern direction, which, using a quadrocopter and grenades, destroyed at least a dozen lined Ukrainian tanks and infantry fighting vehicles.

Over time, the armored fleet of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will only degrade. So, one can only welcome the now official (and “decorated” on the ground in the form of fortified lines) transition of Russian troops to a tough defense: if the enemy wants to bruise his forehead, then you need to substitute a fairly solid wall under it. The easier it will be for our soldiers to advance during the winter campaign.
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  1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Alexander) 22 October 2022 19: 29
    +2
    I wouldn't be so optimistic. NATO may well give the Bandera people different versions of the T-55 from Romania and their decommissioned Leopard-1, M-60 and M-48 of various modifications. Or they can give something modern ... Insignificant deliveries of Abrams and Leopard-2 tanks, according to some reports to Ukraine, through Poland, have already been ... And now, information has recently flashed about Poland's purchases of Black Panther tanks from South Korea, moreover, in version with enhanced armor protection ... Poland itself is not able to buy something, its army has long existed with US money, and the one who pays orders the music, so the Black Panthers may well appear in some quantities in Ukraine, and after their deliveries to the Polish parts of Poland can easily provide Ukraine with additional versions of the T-72
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 22 October 2022 20: 35
      +5
      For tanks, deadly weapons were found in the form of loitering ammunition of the Lancet type with a cumulative warhead, shock, - Pacer with anti-tank ATGMs, etc. With the massive use of UAVs, it is not difficult to knock out tanks and other armored vehicles in dozens - as many as there are on the battlefield. It remains for little, to produce for each tank and infantry fighting vehicles at least five times Lancets and other things. The cost of UAVs is orders of magnitude cheaper, their control is safer ... So far, the picture is depressing in the NMD - a reconnaissance UAV detects an accumulation of tanks, and then artillery over the areas without adjustments, the efficiency of a single percent of the shots, sometimes zero. Switching to modern combat methods has long been necessary and understandable, but when you see the glazed expression of the NGSh (too much drinking - physiognomy, like a science), one of the reasons why we have such a NWO ...
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 22 October 2022 23: 01
        -5
        The Russian Federation does not have lancets and Pacers in commercial quantities, and NATO has a lot of old tanks ...
        1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 22 October 2022 23: 58
          +2
          Replica. To produce an UAV, this is not a tank, orders of magnitude faster and cheaper. Everything is small, the system in the Russian Federation is not imprisoned for production, easy big money has corrupted ...
          1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
            Sapsan136 (Alexander) 23 October 2022 00: 03
            +4
            The fact of the matter is that there are problems with industry in the Russian Federation ... I'm not talking about the fact that there are problems with electronics in the Russian Federation, but in Voronezh, factories for the production of radio components are being demolished ... well, isn't this sabotage?
    2. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
      Paul3390 (Paul) 22 October 2022 22: 22
      0
      The Black Panther is the second most expensive after the Japanese tank in the world .. And so that such a toy would be given to Ukrainians ?? Yes, and they are not available in commercial quantities - so far even a production contract is only being discussed. And they will produce - in 10 years at least ..
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 22 October 2022 23: 00
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        South Korea is a servant of the United States ... as they say in Washington, they will do it, they can give theirs, from the presence ... And crests ... near Kharkov, a Polish corps of 20000 soldiers and officers, and there are not only Poles .. Information flashed about the fact that over the next three months, deliveries of F-16s are expected to Ukraine, and the pilots in Ukraine have long been knocked out ... and those who have been shot down recently are Swedes and Slovaks on planes with identification marks of the Ukrainian Air Force
    3. Sarmat Sanych Offline Sarmat Sanych
      Sarmat Sanych (Sarmat Sanych) 25 October 2022 09: 29
      -1
      Sapsan136 (Alexander), The exhaustion of the military resources of the collective West has long been no secret to anyone. Even the ex-adviser to the head of the Pentagon D. McGregor and Air Force Colonel Kansian confirmed that the United States had run out of 777 self-propelled guns for transfer, as well as shells for them, therefore they have not been transferring them since the end of August, their modest stocks of missiles for Himars will also fit in November to the irreducible balance, the facts are that the US military-industrial complex produces up to 9000 missiles for the Heichmars per year, and "Ukraine" + mercenaries spend at least 5000 of them in just a month, the Pentagon's stocks of "Javelins" also remained at the Pentagon 30% of the original, according to according to the general director of the only plant in the States that produces them, it takes more than 20 years to replenish at the maximum possible rate of 700 pieces per year (and even then in terms of investment in increasing production).
      Armored vehicles in Europe at the beginning of the year were 3537 units + in "Ukraine" 2430, together = 5967, as of October 1, 5203 were destroyed, hence
      5203:220=23,65 so much is destroyed per day
      5967 - 5203 = 764 - so many armored vehicles left in Europe
      (without Hungary, Turkey and Greece)
      half a month ago 764 : 23,65 = 32,3 days - how many days of armored vehicles are left in Europe + Ukraine on October 1 - provided that everyone (including Germany and Britain) will give their armored vehicles to "Ukraine", which is impossible
      October 1 + 32,3 = by the morning of November 4, ALL armored vehicles will end. According to the same calculations, the MLRS and Artillery will end by the end of January. Now it's October 25th.
      The collective billion-strong West is military dwarfs in comparison with Russia. Even according to the main Western (naturally biased) institute for weapons analysis Sipri, the HRV has at least 45% of the total planetary reserves of MLRS, at least 30% of the world's tanks and a third of the world's self-propelled guns.
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 25 October 2022 10: 51
        0
        In Ukraine, so far, in non-commercial quantities, both Leopard-2 and Abrams M1A2 have already been seen ... and there are plenty of older tanks in the west, so do not underestimate the enemy ... Underestimating the enemy is always expensive ...
      2. Condensed milk Offline Condensed milk
        Condensed milk (Vadim Rogachev) 25 October 2022 16: 49
        +2
        And we'll take Kyiv in two days. Yep, you've heard it already. It’s better to fight as if the enemy’s equipment will never run out than every day “we’ll win tomorrow.”
  2. Seamaster Offline Seamaster
    Seamaster (Yuri Kiselev) 22 October 2022 20: 16
    +3
    We must also keep in mind those Soviet / Russian tanks that were sold to all sorts of Tanzania / Iraqi and other Chile. Americans can exchange them for beads or whiskey and give them to tufted tufts.
  3. k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 22 October 2022 20: 47
    +1
    Another #will freeze
  4. Cetron Offline Cetron
    Cetron (Peteris) 22 October 2022 23: 26
    0
    The author is heresy, NATO will not run out of tanks. If needed, there will be. Did Lizka look in the direction of Russia in Estonia? In Lithuania, whose tanks did not reach the Belarusian border during the 150m exercise? In Latvia, two NATO corps, a tank and a self-propelled lodging!
    The newest tanks will not give, but junk can. I am sure that thousands of tanks have been stored at storage bases since the Cold War, in the USA in Arizona they can be stored for hundreds of years in the open. There are tanks in Canada, South Korea, Taiwan, and even in the WB. Some US satellites still use tanks from the 50s and will gladly exchange them for newer ones.
  5. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 22 October 2022 23: 42
    0
    So it was already.
    They wrote in the media that they had nothing, they gave them a little bit and garbage ....

    And here again, the same thing, they say no, it will end, no one will give ...
    promises and explanations...
  6. Stinging Nettle Offline Stinging Nettle
    Stinging Nettle (Stinging Nettle) 23 October 2022 02: 05
    -3
    The author, the USSR at one time lost the Cold War, because the late Soviet propagandists, in their abuse of the decaying West, were ridiculous and unconvincing and worked on the contrary.
    Why are you trying to repeat their mistakes? Stuffing as many insults of the West and Ukraine into an article as possible does not mean being convincing.
    1. Sarmat Sanych Offline Sarmat Sanych
      Sarmat Sanych (Sarmat Sanych) 25 October 2022 09: 31
      -1
      Stinging Nettle, guys, wake up already and start making friends with the facts. Armored vehicles in Europe at the beginning of the year were 3537 units + in "Ukraine" 2430, together = 5967, as of October 1, 5203 were destroyed, hence
      5203:220=23,65 so much is destroyed per day
      5967 - 5203 = 764 - so many armored vehicles left in Europe
      (without Hungary, Turkey and Greece)
      half a month ago 764 : 23,65 = 32,3 days - how many days of armored vehicles are left in Europe + Ukraine on October 1 - provided that everyone (including Germany and Britain) will give their armored vehicles to "Ukraine", which is impossible
      October 1 + 32,3 = by the morning of November 4, ALL armored vehicles will end. According to the same calculations, the MLRS and Artillery will end by the end of January. Now it's October 25th.
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 25 October 2022 10: 56
        -1
        Tanks can be supplied by Canada, there is a strong Ukrainian lobby ... Greece is already supplying equipment ... Turkey ... there is no guarantee that it will supply not only Bayraktars ... Yes, and in the USA there are plenty of old tanks in storage, like old planes. ..In the near future, F-16s may appear in Ukraine ... Pilots for them, supposedly from Ukraine, are already being trained ... but most likely the pilots will be "wild geese" from PMCs
  7. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 23 October 2022 04: 38
    +4
    Quote: Sapsan136
    I wouldn't be so optimistic. NATO may well give the Bandera people different versions of the T-55 from Romania and their decommissioned Leopard-1, M-60 and M-48 of various modifications. Or they can give something modern ... Insignificant deliveries of Abrams and Leopard-2 tanks, according to some reports to Ukraine, through Poland, have already been ... And now, information has recently flashed about Poland's purchases of Black Panther tanks from South Korea, moreover, in version with enhanced armor protection ... Poland itself is not able to buy something, its army has long existed with US money, and the one who pays orders the music, so the Black Panthers may well appear in some quantities in Ukraine, and after their deliveries to the Polish parts of Poland can easily provide Ukraine with additional versions of the T-72

    The history of the Second World War teaches that captured equipment was very little used on the battlefield. Maintenance without supply is the main reason. A zoo of dozens of various types of pieces of iron, decommissioned from the owner, and, of course, without spare parts. Variety of fuels. Variety of technical documentation languages. BP variety. All this makes this technique, often not an engine, but an anchor.
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    2. Alexander Dobry Offline Alexander Dobry
      Alexander Dobry (Alexander Cheban) 23 October 2022 11: 28
      -1
      This is not a trophy technique. This is the equipment of allies who can provide appropriate technical assistance and support in the maintenance of the provided equipment. It's like Lend-Lease in the second world war in the USSR.
  8. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 23 October 2022 04: 47
    -6
    Quote: Stinging Nettle
    The author, the USSR at one time lost the Cold War, because the late Soviet propagandists, in their scolding about the decaying West, were ridiculous and unconvincing and worked on the contrary.
    Why are you trying to repeat their mistakes? Stuffing as many insults of the West and Ukraine into an article as possible does not mean being convincing.

    The USSR lost the Cold War not because the Central Committee of the CPSU weakly controlled propaganda. The idiotic political system ruined for decades, and brought the economy to the handle. For any victory, resources are needed. This is the industry of the country, first of all. Just don’t say that the GDP of the USSR was in place ... which is not bad at all. Without considering the STRUCTURE of GDP, this is self-deception. The idiocy with the raising of virgin lands, the construction of the Baikal-Amur Mainline, the costs of billions, the addition of cotton and other things, of course, raised the cost of products that were not actually products. Trillion invested in BAM. Raised the weight of GDP? Raised. And the return? Not working properly STILL the road. Is that one million tons of cotton a commodity? And the return of the dough from the virgin lands? What about river turns? What about writing off billions to African countries promising to build socialism? Subtract stupid investments, half remains.
    1. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
      Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 23 October 2022 12: 00
      +2
      from wikipedia:

      As of 2019, BAM is operating at its capacity limit. Since the 2010s, it is planned to increase the throughput and carrying capacity of the line, as well as its specialization for heavy trains. The highway is being modernized in order to increase cargo traffic. In some sections, the issue of building third main tracks is being worked out.

      a road that does not work properly requires additional construction of new roads ... someone here is clearly a "great economist" ...

      asking about the turn of rivers that did not exist is generally ... well, or you don’t understand what was included in the plan for the great turn of the SIBERIAN rivers ...
    2. Sarmat Sanych Offline Sarmat Sanych
      Sarmat Sanych (Sarmat Sanych) 25 October 2022 09: 49
      +1
      Road not working as it should STILL

      - you yourself generally believe in your nonsenselaughing? Cargo turnover through BAM has already been expanded to 158 million tons, which is MORE THAN TWO TIMES MORE than in the Soviet peak. This BAM was only normally electrified in the 10s, and the rest of the most complicated tunnels, branches, new bridges, expansion, new branches, etc. - started 99,9 years ago. And it happens just quickly and successfully, without any million-dollar Komsomol construction projects and overstrain of the country, none of the 7% of the Russian population even notices what is being built there. I know the contractors of the "Eastern Polygon" - the general director of JSC BTS-Most Popov Alexander Vladimirovich, the general director of JSC DIM Vlasov Vladimir Nikolaevich, and the ex-deputy of the State Duma of JSC Bamstroymekhanizatsiya Sergey Alekseevich Samusev - personally. Domestic transport builders are plowing there thoroughly, Russia, in principle, has been taking 8nd place on the planet in terms of transport construction (railway, road, bridge, port) for 2-1,4 years already, we are ahead of only 147 billion China, and the same States with the European Union taken together, they lag behind Russia in terms of transport construction volumes. Of course, this is a synergistic effect for the economy, the production of domestic building materials, metallurgy, road and transport equipment, car building, electric power construction, etc. In terms of the production of freight cars, one 1,4 millionth Russia now produces one and a half times more than 2 billionth China and 280 times more than the 290-XNUMXth millionth USSR at its maximum.
  9. zuuukoo Offline zuuukoo
    zuuukoo (Sergei) 23 October 2022 07: 08
    +2
    After the phrase "Great tank default", I expected to analyze the removal of the T62 from storage with us.
    And the answer to the question why, instead of 800 armats, 800 t62 are sent to the troops.
    But no, again, "what are the crests doing there."
    1. Sarmat Sanych Offline Sarmat Sanych
      Sarmat Sanych (Sarmat Sanych) 25 October 2022 10: 01
      +1
      zuuukooo (Sergey), stop fooling around and pretending that we live on Ckakyacia alone and therefore they say we should throw at least a quarter of the Russian stocks of modern technology there. The Russian Federation has the largest border on the planet and global interests, plus we are not in a hurry. "Armat" at the end of 2021 more than 240 units were produced, why send them there if at the same end of 2021 the Russian Federation has more than 18 thousand tanks - almost 2,5 times more than the entire NATO bloc (including the United States, the European Union, Turkey, Canada and UK)? I’m already silent about the overwhelming advantage of the HRV over the same United States in terms of reserves, at least MLRS (4700 versus 672), howitzers, etc. But among domestic whiners, rosin about the "mighty West" still comes acrosslaughing, meanwhile, the French Minister of Defense says with regret that their French military-industrial complex is at its maximum capable of producing up to two "Caesars" and up to two "Leclercs" per yearsmile
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 25 October 2022 11: 02
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        What are 18000 tanks? Firstly, there have been fewer of them for a long time (after Serdyukov and company) Secondly, tanks from mobilization storage, these are conditionally serviceable equipment, there are only 300 modern T-90s there, everything else is Soviet-era, needs varying degrees of repair and modernization .. With howitzers we have not very much either ... Coalitions are few ... but the old D-20 and D-1 are already being removed from storage ... During the times of Gorbachevism and the drunk Boris, the Russian Federation almost rolled back to the 19th century and there are a lot of problems ... and not all they are being resolved as they should ... there is a lot of mess ... and one resignation of the stealing chief of logistics cannot solve them ...
  10. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
    Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 23 October 2022 11: 56
    0
    they won’t run out of tanks ... they will have to, they will supply ... stop living in illusions that everything will freeze soon and end ...
    1. Sarmat Sanych Offline Sarmat Sanych
      Sarmat Sanych (Sarmat Sanych) 25 October 2022 10: 07
      +1
      Nikolai Volkov, where is it

      soon everything will freeze

      if already? Take a look at the photos of dozens of satellites from October 18 to October 20, the entire part of "Ukraine" controlled by the Zenatos is dark, while even impoverished Moldova shines nearby, not to mention POLAND, Romania, my small homeland of Belarus and even more so Russia. ANY rail transportation has been stopped for a week, I know this is not from TGeshek-internets. There, even with communication and the Internet, it became tight, although these are meager costs of electricity in comparison with other things.
  11. Muscool Offline Muscool
    Muscool (Glory) 24 October 2022 13: 16
    0
    NATO Ukrainians will find a lot of weapons. Don't count on it
    1. Sarmat Sanych Offline Sarmat Sanych
      Sarmat Sanych (Sarmat Sanych) 25 October 2022 09: 49
      -1
      They won't find it, everything has been known for a long time. Read above.
  12. tuZZZ Offline tuZZZ
    tuZZZ (TuZZZ TuZZZ) 30 October 2022 19: 33
    0
    War for Pind.ov is primarily a business, a way to earn money. For Germany and France, the war is a colossal loss. Undermining the Nord Streams is a vivid example of this. And if the pind.s are mainly provided with materials and raw materials for themselves, then for the mass production of weapons in Europe there simply will not be enough raw materials and energy. Compare the cost of the same Lepard and our T-90. Weapons should be cheap, massive and easy to use. You can't say the same about Western weapons.
  13. Pilot Offline Pilot
    Pilot (Pilot) 5 November 2022 07: 21
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    Well, from the territory of Ukraine, all of a sudden ... something can fly through Germany. It just looks like our counterintelligence has also gone rogue over the years.