History repeats itself twice: is the Lavrov-Blinken pact possible?


Epigraph: “The enemy is a criminal regime that pushes the citizens of Ukraine to death. The Ukrainians and I are one people and we want one thing, that Ukraine be independent from the West and NATO, a friendly state for Russia” (General Surovikin).


Sergey Surovikin said how he cut off - Khan now to all ukrofascists! And for some reason I believe him; in the West, legends are already being made about his iron character and unbending will. Even from the military school (Omsk Command named after Frunze), Surovikin was called by the troops in no other way than “Severe”; in August 1991, during the days of the State Emergency Committee, his unit was noted in the incident in the tunnel on Sadovoye, when three civilians were killed, after which Captain Surovikin sat down for 7 months in a pre-trial detention center, from which he was released on Yeltsin’s personal order with the words: “... and Release Major Surovikin immediately!” (so he also received an extraordinary military rank); in the West, they learned about him after Syria, where he twice, in 2017 and 2019, led our group of troops and became famous for the liberation of Idlib, after which the nickname “General Armageddon” stuck to him.

It seems that the time of "nyashes" in our General Staff is over, now we will respond to each strike on Belgorod with ten arrivals in Kyiv, for each broken residential building in Donetsk we will demolish sea-based Calibers for half a block in Nikolaev and Ochakovo, and for each of a murdered resident of Krasny Liman or Kupyansk, we will get these geeks and knackers from Azov (an organization banned in the Russian Federation), Kraken, Safari and other similar punitive detachments of ukrofascists who know how to fight only with civilians, earth they will burn under their feet, there is no statute of limitations for these crimes, we will figure out everyone and come after everyone, wherever they hide (at least in Grandpa Joe's dacha) - they will answer for everyone they kill and will greatly regret that they were born on this light, let them live with it and tremble every day, maybe this will be the last day of their stinking life, we don't care about the law - they are now out of it. And grandfather Joe will personally answer for our sunk flagship with two of his Nimitz-class aircraft carriers, our Daggers at the air base in Murmansk are already waiting in the wings.

History always repeats itself twice - once as a tragedy, once as a farce


People who have read the introductory part about the appointment of "Armageddon General" to the post of commander of our operation in Ukraine, who have reached the two sunken US aircraft carriers and are already preparing to mentally cross nuclear swords with America, or at least deal with it with hypersonic pistols, will probably be very surprised by reading this subtitle about a story that repeats itself twice. What does history have to do with it, they will say, let's bury America first. I must greatly upset all our couch patriots who have already mentally buried America - the funeral of the United States, apparently, will have to be postponed somewhat, the special purpose submarine BS-329 Belgorod, lost from US radars, the only carrier of Poseidon nuclear drones, has safely returned to the base of the Northern fleet in Gadzhiyevo, so that the flooding of America under a radioactive tsunami and the formation of the Strait in its place. Sakharov will have to be postponed until better times.

Today we will talk about something else. I may now express controversial thoughts, I do not insist on them, but they are all built on historical examples, try to object to me and look at the current situation from a slightly different angle.

All of you probably remember the recent history of how the political crisis on the eve of World War II. Then the two imperialist predators, Great Britain and France, seeing Nazi Germany building up their military muscles and corresponding appetites before their eyes, and understanding how this could end for them personally, slept and saw how they could avert the threat from themselves by sending Hitler to the last his journey to the East. Stalin saw this and understood that he was not yet ready for this war. But at the same time, everyone in Europe was aware that the coming war was inevitable.

Against the backdrop of a shrinking window of opportunity, all the actors of this action behaved in accordance with their ideas of good and evil, how it ended for Czechoslovakia and Austria, you know - they died, they were devoured by the insatiable Hitler. Poland was next in line, but it was, as a sin, bound by a treaty with Great Britain. And then these figures showed themselves in all their glory. Only very unscrupulous historians of history can accuse Stalin, who concluded a separate non-aggression pact with Hitler behind their backs, the very famous Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. The thing is that all three parties (Great Britain-France, Germany and the USSR) did not trust anyone and conducted simultaneous negotiations with each other. And who are our English and French "friends" doctor, that trying to outplay Stalin, they outplayed themselves as a result. While they were playing for time and by sea through Leningrad (a steamer was the slowest transport at that time) they sent a delegation to Moscow that did not have any authority, Stalin shook hands with Hitler, which was a complete surprise for our European "friends" (the fact that they themselves had signed similar non-aggression treaties with Nazi Germany, apparently, future researchers of history are not embarrassed). Hitler outplayed them all, negotiating in parallel with both Moscow and London. On August 23, 1939, he had appointed and agreed with opposite sides (both sides gave the go-ahead), two visits at once - Reich Marshal Goering to London and Foreign Minister Ribbentrop to Moscow. Hitler chose Moscow, and canceled Goering's visit, notifying London of this only the next day, August 24.

It wasn't until the next day that London found out that his train had left the day before—August 23. And already on September 1, Wehrmacht troops invaded Poland. What happened next and how it all ended, you know even without me. Stalin won a precious two years to prepare for the war and created a territorial buffer on the borders of the USSR, in the form of the newly annexed territories of western Ukraine, western Belarus, Bessarabia and the Baltic states, having also chopped off a piece of Finnish territory as a result of the Soviet-Finnish war. Perhaps it was precisely these territories that prevented Hitler from capturing Moscow during the summer offensive campaign. Stupidly there was not enough pace, Hitler got bogged down in the endless expanses of Russia, not even stocking up on winter clothes for his army. How it ended for him, you also know.

Now let's look at the current political map. For 8 months now we have been waging an uncompromising one-on-one war against the entire collective West on the territory of Ukraine. We are bleeding, but what are our “allies” doing? And do we have them? Only Iran helps us, for which special thanks to him! Well, maybe also Belarus, but the dad has no other choice. The rest of our “friends” either frankly “got on skis”, like Armenia and Kazakhstan, or took a wait-and-see position, sitting comfortably on the shore waiting for the corpses of their enemies to float past them, while also bargaining with us for special discounts and preferences on our hydrocarbons, taking advantage of our hopeless situation, I'm talking about two Asian giants - India and China. Small compared to them, Iran helps, and the great Asian powers pretend that this does not concern them, this bell does not ring for them. Idiots! They are next in line.

But, apparently, comrade. Xi and Narendra Modi did not learn history well at school and do not know how Britain and France ended up in 1939. France went to feed fascist Germany, and London learned the hard way what the carpet bombing of the Luftwaffe is. But our Asian "friends" believe that they are the smartest, one is building 50-year plans for the prospective development of the Celestial Empire, the other is maneuvering between the hammer and the anvil of Beijing and Washington, while both wrote off Moscow, completely in vain believing that by her death she would weaken the hegemon and he has no strength left for them. Blessed are those who believe! Chamberlain in 1939 also believed that he had outmaneuvered Hitler. History laughed at him, moreover, twice.

"Those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it." (Carl von Clausewitz).

To everyone who did not study history well, I want to remind you how the Great Patriotic War developed and let them compare it with the current operation of the RF Armed Forces on the territory of Ukraine. Hitler in 1941 also planned a blitzkrieg. Any associations with the Kremlin's plans? Hitler's generals stunned the Red Army in the first days of the war with a completely new tactic of maintaining a database - tank wedges, girths and encirclements (I can’t even count the number of boilers!), Deep raids on our rear. Doesn't it remind you of anything? I already saw something similar at the 1st stage of the CBO in our performance. True, Hitler did it better, he almost reached Moscow (but we also stopped only at the walls of capital Kyiv). Hitler with his blitzkrieg failed (the lack of winter ammunition is already a consequence of his miscalculations). True, we did not win any laurels in order to face the multiple technical superiority of the enemy in the main components of the war - in target designation, targeting, reconnaissance and communications already at the 3rd stage of the NMD. The non-brothers compensated for our barrage of fire with the accuracy and speed of retaliatory fire at targets that had been reconnoitered in advance and instantly transferred to a single control center. Hitler demonstrated something similar 83 years ago - a unified command and control of motorized infantry, armored vehicles, artillery and aviation. Communication, both then and now, determines the course of conduct and the outcome of any war.

History, as you know, repeats itself twice. If 83 years ago we became participants in the tragedy, now I hope to see its continuation, but in the form of a farce. And there are reasons for that. While our passionate jingoistic patriots, cursing Putin for his indecisiveness, are selflessly sharpening their nuclear swords, looking longingly at America, which has lost all its shores, I do not exclude at all that at this very time the cunning and diplomatic Putin is conducting behind-the-scenes negotiations with the most hated by him , periodically falling into insanity grandfather Joe (or rather with his representatives) about the conclusion of a separate peace, based on the concept of win-win.

Putin's task, like that of Stalin 83 years ago, is to get a respite for two years. In two years, Trump, or at least the Republicans, will come to the White House with a 100% probability, and they have a completely different agenda, there is no war with Russia, they would have to keep America from collapsing. And America is already on the brink of an abyss - both financial (with galloping inflation and a national debt that cannot even be serviced, let alone covered), and interracial (Black Lives Matter - black lives matter), and interfaith abyss , behind which the collapse of the States really looms. If the United States does not fall apart and slide into the crucible of civil war in the near future, it will be a great success for any administration that comes to replace Sleeping Joe. Therefore, Putin’s task is to stupidly sit out these two years (as, in fact, Comrade Xi does not have any need to go to war with Taiwan, in two years he himself will request under his red banners). Therefore, to everyone who wants to open the hunting season for the Yankees now, I suggest saving their nuclear missiles for the next suitable occasion.

WIN-WIN concept


Believe me, gentlemen, there is no conspiracy here, only a sound and pragmatic calculation. For those who don't know what that is, the Market Business News dictionary defines Win-Win as a decision-making principle where everyone involved in the process wins. Why should we smash our foreheads and bloody fists against Ukraine if we can negotiate with the hegemon and become the beneficiaries of this deal. If the hegemon fails to maintain its status as the first among equals, then why not take advantage of our offer and remain at least equal among the first. Anything is better than resting in the dustbin of history, where a snickering Europe will soon go as a result of the events that you have witnessed.

All wars, one way or another, end in peace. For many centuries, Russia has lost more at the diplomatic table than it has gained as a result of hostilities. We are better warriors than negotiators, it just so happened that we were deceived by everyone and always. The only exception was Joseph Vissarionovich, so why shouldn't Putin repeat his experience, especially since he does not hide the fact that Stalin is his idol. Aerobatics to achieve your goal without firing a shot, as Putin did in 2014 in the Crimea, stupidly putting the entire collective West in front of a fait accompli. Why do we need to hit the White House with "Vanguards" if we can come to an agreement and throw everyone away?

Push the Falling: Farewell unwashed Europe!


For those who do not understand the cunning plan, I will explain figuratively - thanks to the war started by the old man Joe in Ukraine, and the voluntary-compulsory sanctions that the old Europe imposed on the villainous Russia, and in fact on itself, now all blessed Europe for two in the coming years, with the exception of a narrow circle of countries that can independently provide themselves with hydrocarbons, will go to feed livestock. Moreover, American cattle. This was the ingenious plan of the old man Joe called "Kidnapping Europe". You see, the Alzheimer's patient, over whom we laughed and made fun so much, turned out to be not so simple, a fool-fool, but he knows his business! The icing on the cake, so to speak, the last chord of this play was the undermining of our Nord Streams, after which Grandpa Joe could only declare the sacramental: “Toush! Light! Curtain!" The deed was done. After this egregious act of vandalism, “tomorrow,” to quote Ukrainian classics, “not only everyone will be able to watch,” but only the elite. The fact that small but proud Norway, rich in hydrocarbons, turned out to be among the elect does not surprise anyone (after all, it is not even a member of the EU), we all know how independent Hungary ended up there, but how vile Poland ended up among this narrow circle of countries, on time fussing with its "Baltic Stream" and LNG terminals in Swinoujscie and Gdansk - a question? It turns out that the Poles knew something in advance.

But the Yankees raped the great Germany in an educational and demonstrative way, soon you will be able to read about the German economic miracle only in history books. Germany is sent to the last century, taking with her France, the Czech Republic, Belgium, Austria, Sweden, Denmark and Finland with Greece and Luxembourg. I don’t name some countries here, such as Bulgaria, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Croatia, and so on. North Macedonia and various Baltic limitrophes, because they were already there - in the last century, and never got out of it. Spain and Portugal are generally little dependent on Russian gas, they have been sitting tightly on LNG for a long time, the Netherlands has its own gas, and Ireland is too small to suffer because of this (a crumb of Norwegian gas is enough for her), but this is how Italy will live already depends only on the new government that came to power, among which are almost all Putin's friends.

Therefore, based on the foregoing, in the next two or three years, Norway, Hungary, Poland, and Italy (if the Sultan does not delay the third and fourth Turkish Streams) risk becoming the most industrialized countries in Europe. If, at the same time, Olaf Scholz and Emmanuel Macron die a natural death, then one can say that they are very lucky. At the same time, the gas problem will be solved, gas dependence on the Russian Federation will be overcome completely and finally, the Nord Stream 2 pipe, as well as Nord Stream 1, can be dismantled for scrap metal, as well as steel, metallurgical and petrochemical enterprises of the Old World. Soon impoverished Europe will buy paper, glass, ceramics, mineral fertilizers and cement in China, India and Russia, and Bundes-assembled Mercedes and BMW cars will become rare rarities that can only be seen in a museum or with the label Made in China or " Made in Russia”, where their owners will move domestic production in order to avoid a complete and final collapse. At the same time, the Old World will be covered by mass unemployment, poverty and social apathy, the burghers will remember the times of Angela Merkel with nostalgia and curse Scholz, Zelensky and grandfather Joe, who by then, with a sense of accomplishment, will go to another world to meet Gorbachev (if At the same time, he will also take Scholz with him, everyone will be happy, while Zelensky will be a corpse for two years, who died under unknown circumstances, probably from an overdose).

The only thing that confuses me about this blissful picture is the cannibalization by Grandpa Joe economics great Germany. Here I am gnawed by vague doubts whether all German industry will rush across the ocean in order to avoid collapse? The path is not close. What to look for the German ruined industrialists in the United States? Cheap raw materials? Let us suppose. Cheap labor? But there are questions about this - America is an expensive country with a high standard of living, no one will work there for a bowl of soup. Why would the ruined German bourgeois travel so far, even across the ocean, when there is both at hand. Guess three times where?

And here we come to the most important thing - what is the benefit to Putin from the ruin of Europe? Poor Europe will not be able to pay for gas, even for cheap. Yes, and what is he to her with the zeroed industry? Here again we must turn to history. Our history. Due to which Stalin managed to accept the country with a plow, and hand it over to the ungrateful Nikita already with space technology (4 years after the death of the leader, we have already flown into space, if anyone has forgotten, having launched the first artificial Earth satellite into a stationary orbit!)? And here the forgotten word "industrialization" comes to mind. And how did Stalin manage to make such a technological leap in the 30s? That's right - American industrial capital rushed to us, because the Great Depression was raging in America at that time, and we were friends with America (God, there was a time when we were friends with America!). And who is stopping Putin from doing the same?

Just don't tell me that Russia is a hole in Europe and no one will shake hands with us after Ukraine. They will be served like cute ones, there will still be a queue of those who want to. Enough of Russia trading in resources, it's time to start producing a product with high added value (as we did during the Soviet era). The future of Russia lies in reindustrialization, we need a technological industrial leap! We need Western technology. Here I already hear disappointed voices: “Who will give them to us ?!” The answer is that the Germans will give it. Why? The reason is as banal as a rake - in America the inch system of measurement, and in Europe - the metric one. How to transport design bureaus for cars, turbines or lawn mowers there? No way! Only assembly production of screwdriver assembly. And why is it for the Germans at the cost of local labor? Whether it's Russia, with its inexhaustible natural resources, cheap e / energy and no less cheap labor. A poet's dream! Even German, who, thanks to Grandpa Joe, forgot what warm batteries are. As you can see, the chest opens easily.

Farewell arms: NATO is dead!


Although here I already hear voices: “But what about NATO? Where will it look? Lord, forget you already, finally, about NATO. NATO is dead! Moreover, it became clear not even yesterday, but the day before yesterday, namely on September 15, 2021, from the moment AUKUS was formed. The States have already settled their affairs in Europe, now Southeast Asia is waiting for them, it's time to get rid of toxic non-core assets. Why should the United States pull this load on itself? The Europeans do not know how to fight and do not want to, they also give money for the upkeep of the bloc a tablespoon per hour (and then after a good kick), why do they need the former hegemon? That's it, love has passed, the tomatoes have withered! Do you think it was in vain that both Scholz and Macron shouted in unison about the creation of a European army? The scumbags understand that the freebie is over. NATO, however paradoxical it may sound to many, is currently a decaying stinking corpse, just like the EU itself.

Sign - if Ukraine comes somewhere (or asks), then this is a clear sign that the organization is a skiff! The EU and NATO are the clearest examples of this. By the way, for a long time nothing has been heard about our new NATO members - Finland and Sweden. Where have the bastards gone? I hasten to inform you, otherwise it somehow passed by your attention - Sweden has already changed its mind about joining NATO. And she even came up with a reason - it turns out that such an important decision for the country must be approved by two different governments and two different parliaments of the Kingdom of Sweden. These are harsh Swedish laws. One government and one parliament have already voted for it. Looking forward to the next. However, there is one problem - they will come to power not earlier than in 8 years. Wait, sir… Either the donkey will die, or the Shah will change his mind. I bet that the NATO donkey will die first.

See how difficult things are in this world. So do not rush to bury us (and yourself)! On that optimistic note, I say goodbye to you. We are waiting for developments. Your Mr. Z
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  1. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 20 October 2022 20: 45
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    Dreams of dreams, where is your sweetness? Passed dreams remain disgusting. I know a dozen more proverbs on this topic wink For example: you know who gets rich with a thought
  2. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
    Pat Rick 20 October 2022 21: 50
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    and for every resident of Krasny Liman or Kupyansk killed, we will get these geeks and flayers from Azov out of the ground

    We'll get it. We will feed in captivity, heal, and then exchange in a ratio of 5 to 1.

    And already on September 1, Wehrmacht troops invaded Poland. Stalin won a precious two years to prepare for the war and created a territorial buffer on the borders of the USSR, in the form of the newly annexed territories of western Ukraine, western Belarus, Bessarabia and the Baltic states, having also chopped off a piece of Finnish territory as a result of the Soviet-Finnish war.

    1) The author somehow forgot to mention the agreement between the USSR and Germany "On Friendship and Borders" dated September 28, 1939. Hitler concluded a similar treaty only with Mussolini.
    2) The buffer turned out to be very flimsy, and was occupied by the Germans in the very first days of the war.
    3) Considering the start of the war, which was devastating for the USSR, we can say that the "precious two years for preparing for war" won, as a whole, did not matter very much.

    I read up to "America on the brink" and gave up ... there is no need to waste time in vain and stuff your head with all sorts of rubbish.
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    2. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
      Dart2027 21 October 2022 18: 10
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      Quote from Pat-Rick
      The author somehow forgot to mention the agreement between the USSR and Germany "On Friendship and Borders" dated September 28, 1939. Hitler concluded a similar treaty only with Mussolini.

      1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
        Pat Rick 21 October 2022 20: 02
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        You don't even know what it's about, but it's still the same laughing
        1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
          Dart2027 21 October 2022 22: 40
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          That is, there is nothing to argue.
          1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
            Pat Rick 21 October 2022 23: 21
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            You would need to learn pre-war history.
            Do you even know how many agreements were signed in 1939 by Hitler's Germany and Stalin's USSR?
            1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
              Dart2027 22 October 2022 19: 42
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              Quote from Pat-Rick
              You would need to learn pre-war history.
              Do you even know how many agreements were signed in 1939 by Hitler's Germany and Stalin's USSR?

              Well, what kind? Show.
              1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
                Pat Rick 23 October 2022 07: 35
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                August 23, 1939 - Non-aggression pact.
                September 28, 1939 - Treaty of Friendship and Borders.

                Many countries signed non-aggression pacts with Hitler.
                Treaties of "friendship" - only Mussolini's Italy and Stalin's USSR.
                I wrote about it above.
                1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
                  Dart2027 23 October 2022 10: 31
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                  Quote from Pat-Rick
                  Many countries signed non-aggression pacts with Hitler.
                  Treaties of "friendship" - only Mussolini's Italy and Stalin's USSR.

                  And what kind of treaties does the Munich agreement refer to? And what, besides the word friendship, did they differ in? And there is nothing to answer the fact that the USSR was the last one to conclude agreements?
        2. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 21 October 2022 23: 35
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          Quote from Pat-Rick
          I read up to "America on the brink" and gave up ...

          This is your comment on this article. you accuse others that they do not understand what is at stake? laughing

          Quote from Pat-Rick
          You don't even know what it's about, but it's still the same

          feel
  3. Romanovski Offline Romanovski
    Romanovski (Roman) 20 October 2022 22: 15
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    ... The rest of our "friends" either frankly "began skiing", like Armenia and Kazakhstan, or took a wait-and-see attitude...

    Mr. Z - but you don’t need to distort ... Moreover, I advise you not to blame it on a healthy head, since Armenia has NEVER and ANYWHERE been seen in any anti-Russian actions and gestures, unlike Georgia, Ukraine, Moldova, Baltic states, TURKEY (!) etc... Even after, to put it in your own slogan, the CSTO recently "got on skis" in relation to its CSTO ally (Armenia), that is, point-blank did not notice Azerbaijan's aggression against Armenia itself and slyly began to call the 3-day ( !) a bloody battle with hundreds of dead on both sides - a border incident (!?), then even after that Armenia did not allow itself anti-Russian attacks ... But before that, Armenia honestly fulfilled its obligations within the framework of the CSTO and responded to Russia's request , and sent HUNDREDS of her special forces to Kazakhstan to participate in restoring order in Kazakhstan ... Have you forgotten about this ??? Or is it no longer profitable to remember ??? Armenia was the ONLY CSTO that OFFICIALLY HELPED the Russian Armed Forces in Syria, and sent a couple of hundred sappers to help Russia in mine clearance in Syria and several planes with HUMANITARIAN AID for the people of Syria ... " Forgot about this??? Is it unprofitable for you to remember this now ??? Yes, the Prime Minister of Armenia, under all the leaders of the CSTO, spoke out about the dissatisfaction of the Armenian public with the strange and inadequate behavior of the CSTO towards his ally in the bloc and had every right to do so, since Russia (the leader in the CSTO) is not worth sacrificing the interests of Armenia for the sake of a ghostly "friendship" with Turkey (Azerbaijan = already a vilayat of Turkey).... Artsakh (Karabakh) is allegedly Azerbaijan, and Donbass is already Russia??? Double standarts??? Yes, it is true that Donbass, Kherson and Zaporozhye are Russia, but then why is Russia unfair to the LEGAL SELF-DETERMINATION (referendum of 1991 and EXIT from Azerbaijan UNDER THE LAWS of the USSR ...) of the Armenians of Karabakh ??? Russia will very soon see for itself that what are the "promises" and "friendship" of Turkey worth ... If you love history so much, then somehow read about how Kemal Ataturk also deceived (threw ...) Lenin 100 years ago ... He was able to assure Lenin that supposedly Turkey was burning with the desire to become a communist country and was able to beg FREE OF CHARGE the Bolsheviks have 50.000 (!) Rifles with millions of rounds of ammunition and artillery, a lot of echelons with wheat (! ... from starving Russia, where civil war and devastation rages ...) and a couple of tons of gold (!) For the defeated (!) In the First World Turkey ... And after that - Turkey attacked Armenia in 1918, but was defeated near Sardarapat ... Do you know what Ataturk did after Lenin's death ??? He gathered ALL Turkish communists on one barge and sank them in the Black Sea near Trabzon ... And personally I would like to remind you of the following: Long before the election (and not at all a coup, as the Russian media like to hang labels, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE CHOSEN IT. ..I am not a supporter of him, but the truth is more expensive ...) N. Pashinyan as prime minister --- Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan have been selling and selling to Azerbaijan (not a CSTO MEMBER ... by the way) a lot of OFFENSIVE WEAPONS since 2005 (!) billion dollars AGAINST YOUR ally (!) in the CSTO of Armenia ... Or were they so naive in Belarus and the Russian Federation that they could not guess against WHOM EXACTLY this weapon would be used and USED (!) ???? Or in Russia and Belarus they hoped to convince (and by the way they tried to convince ...) and assure the Armenian brothers that the sale of weapons is purely business and nothing personal ???
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 October 2022 00: 03
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      the text, finally, is not about that ... by the way, why Armenia itself has not yet recognized Nagorno-Karabakh, do you know? This is probably why the Russian Federation did not intervene in the latest incident at the border. About the fact that the Russian Federation is not up to it right now, I’m already silent
      1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 21 October 2022 18: 32
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        Advice to the author - less water and projecting. Hydrocarbons are not the main thing in the development of the state, the main thing is history, the constant development of the base and personnel. A new belt with Poland, Romania and others will remain only a theory, because there are no foundations and prospects, just as there were none in the past. Today, the cards are being distributed, and the rules of the game are set by Washington with sticky England. Russia is deprived during the distribution and the intended candidate for a complete loss. GDP and the team are spinning as best they can in the created adverse conditions, what is the strategy of GDP, just to stay afloat (SVO). Great upheavals, correctly compared with 1939, only the actions are completely different. Therefore, the analysis should be completely different.
  4. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
    soloist2424 (Oleg) 20 October 2022 22: 20
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    A very emotional article, but there is little sober analytics in it.

    The rest of our “friends” either frankly “got on skis”, like Armenia and Kazakhstan, or took a wait-and-see position, sitting comfortably on the shore waiting for the corpses of their enemies to float past them, while also bargaining with us for special discounts and preferences on our hydrocarbons, taking advantage of our hopeless situation, I'm talking about two Asian giants - India and China. Small compared to them, Iran helps, and the great Asian powers pretend that this does not concern them, this bell does not ring for them. ! They are next in line.

    And, in fact, what does the author want from the Chinese and Indians? So that they send their battalions to fight in Ukraine? So it doesn't seem necessary. Both China and India honestly buy Russian gas and oil, that is, they feed the ally's treasury, despite the menacing hails of Washington. In the calculations they switch to national currencies. It's just that Iran turned out to have exactly what Russia needed - good drones. If India would have asked in India.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 October 2022 00: 00
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      India has good missiles, and China has excellent UAVs, there are enough Russian soldiers and their own, but how they buy our oil and gas from us with a 10-20% discount is finally a joke! And why comrade. Xi abandoned Power of Siberia-2? Honest buyer ... yeah ... more honest than ever! India, by the way, recently abandoned our oil (give a link? Or find it yourself?), Chivo, don't you know? probably from great love ... for the USA
  5. Romanovski Offline Romanovski
    Romanovski (Roman) 20 October 2022 22: 56
    +1
    It is reported about the transfer of Azerbaijani MiG-29s to Ukraine....
    https://topcor.ru/28797-soobschaetsja-o-peredache-ukraine-azerbajdzhanskij-mig-29.html

    .......Ukrainian information resources express their gratitude to Baku for its support in the confrontation with Russia. They report that thanks to the MiG-29 fighters transferred to the Ukrainian Air Force from the Azerbaijani Air Force, the Armed Forces of Ukraine managed to regain control over a number of settlements in the Kherson direction, pushing the Russian Armed Forces.
    In their opinion, success on earth was due to efforts in heaven. We are talking about three Azerbaijani MiG-29s, which were brought to the Lvov State Aviation Repair Plant for repair and modernization at the end of January. In March, this enterprise came under a missile attack by the RF Armed Forces, but the fate of the aircraft remained unclear, although the Russian side said that these MiG-29s were destroyed.

    After the incident, Baku probably did not demand the fulfillment of the contract from Kyiv and agreed to give the Ukrainians their planes, which were located on the territory of the country. Then they were brought to airworthiness and transferred to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. At the same time, only the officials of Ukraine and Azerbaijan, who remain silent, can bring complete clarity to this story, Ukrainian sources sum up.

    We remind you that at the end of July, interesting details emerged about the transfer by Azerbaijan to Ukraine back in April of 33 high-explosive fragmentation bombs QFAB-250 LG for Su-25 attack aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Therefore, sooner or later, the story of the Azerbaijani MiG-29 will become clear. ...
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 20 October 2022 23: 54
      +1
      uncle, relax - the MiGs were destroyed along with the factory where the Ukrainians repaired them, they are no longer subject to repair, after which the cunning non-brothers, in order to embroil the Russian Federation with Baku, announced their transfer to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Baku did not confirm this act of goodwill
  6. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 20 October 2022 23: 58
    0
    The "elite" of the Russian Federation wants to negotiate with NATO, it does not care about the people of Russia. The words "we want one thing, that Ukraine be independent from the West and NATO, a friendly state for Russia" (General Surovikin) "confirm the agreement. Imagine that in WWII Zhukov said this about Nazi Germany.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 October 2022 00: 49
      -3
      Do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs!

      Russians and Ukrainians are not fraternal peoples, but one people

      (VV Putin)
  7. Foe Pshekov Offline Foe Pshekov
    Foe Pshekov (Arkady) 21 October 2022 02: 34
    +3
    The author is a comedian.
    He does not quite understand that the Russians, like other others for the USA, the British Empire (which also includes Canada, Australia, New Zealand) and the "European Garden" are by far the most terrible enemies that need to be destroyed, as in their time Bolshevism. Why destroy and not negotiate? Yes, because Russia shows by its example of disobedience and the struggle against the "Great European Civilization" an example to other countries. Then they were afraid of spreading the idea of ​​Bolshevism and the fight against colonialism. As a result, THEY failed to defeat Russia, and the "Garden Lands" lost their colonies. They said well, and they got the next trump card - the dollar, here's the world's currency. Then there was the matter of technology. Spud the rulers of the new weak poor independent states so that they spud their fellow citizens, and all the profits and resources go to the USA and Britain. Now Russia is killing the dollar and encouraging other countries not to sell resources cheaply. Considering how many dollars and euros the Western countries have printed over the past 30 years, oil should already be worth 500 dollars per barrel, because trillions of cut paper have flooded the world. And all the other countries of the "third world" understand that we are right, and act in their interests, just as long as they do not have the strength to fight NATO. But ... the process has begun. And everyone understands this.
    Therefore, the West will not negotiate with us. Now the change of eras and technological structure. Always this stage led to big wars. Because it is impossible to "negotiate". There is no contract basis. We are not satisfied with THEIR rules, and they cannot survive by OUR new rules. And only war can decide who will set conditions in new negotiations.
    Russia has no right to stop now and agree to a truce.
    We have no winning position. The delay in the NWO, and even more so its pacification, puts the country at risk much more seriously than the situation in which we are now.
    Our military-industrial complex plants are already operating at maximum capacity. Modern weapons cannot be made on the knee, this is not the 41st year, when it was possible to convert half of the factories for military products. Another technological structure, a mass of electronic devices on microchips, which we do not have. And most importantly, thousands of machine tools were taken out of the country from the beginning of the nineties to the middle of the XNUMXs in various directions. We did not have time to buy new ones, in the quantities we need.
    Therefore, with every day of the "truce" we will lag behind both in quantity and in the quality of the weapons produced. Enemies have more factories and resources. Plus sanctions and embargoes, when we sell resources at a discount, and we buy chips at a triple price. So not an option.
    And to be honest, it makes no sense for our enemies to stop the war in which the Slavs kill each other and there is no brother. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are wasting stocks of weapons, equipment resources, devastating warehouses, giving away their secrets, and losing officers. At the same time, the NATO countries themselves have not yet suffered losses, but they have got rid of obsolete stockpiles of weapons. Russia is forced to buy certain types of weapons from its allies, tk. there is already a shortage in the warehouses of some types of missiles for example.
    Of course, Russia would feel much more confident if China signed a military alliance with us. But so far this has not happened, and against this background we will have to solve problems ourselves, here and now. We will not be allowed to rest. And even if they did, it would only worsen our situation. So by all available means (up to nuclear weapons), and until the complete unconditional surrender of the enemy. And this is only the first stage of the fight against NATO.
    So the prospects are not very cheerful.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 October 2022 15: 35
      0
      I agree with you 100%, this text is only a version based on historical examples, I wrote here and here (see below), how can we defeat the enemy, but since all wars end in any world, I suggested, why not we should not try to negotiate with Biden in the hope of sitting out 2 years waiting for Trump
      https://topcor.ru/28585-vernut-amerike-strah-osnovnaja-problema-rossii-nas-perestali-bojatsja.html
      https://topcor.ru/28310-putin-k-tretej-mirovoj-gotov-no-gotovy-li-k-nej-vashington-i-nato.html
  8. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 21 October 2022 07: 23
    -1
    The author again describes his parallel world.
    NATO is a skiff (in real life, thanks to GDP, the role of the military-industrial complex and NATO is growing). Well, the EU skiff at the same time.
    Lavrov - famous not for the successes of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, but for failures, the expulsions of diplomats, the absence of allies and forgettable statements - is the author of a stunning pact.
    And Surovikin - so far only retelling the early words of VVP - is a real hero ... (on which even their media photoshop as they want)

    And "hellish" good wishes ... the same as for 20 years already ....
  9. prior Offline prior
    prior (Vlad) 21 October 2022 09: 43
    -3
    My analytics have long told me that the sooner we carry out a peacekeeping mission with a mandatory humanitarian nuclear strike on all American cities and military bases, the sooner the time for economic development and peaceful coexistence will come for humanity.
    Will America ever give up nuclear weapons, its desire to rule the world, its desire to destroy Russia, China and other countries it doesn't like?! And that means there will be war, it will be necessary.
    Then why not strike first?
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 21 October 2022 13: 55
      -2
      Why are you all rested in this Ukraine. Here we found the navel of the Earth ...
      The leadership of 404 expects imminent mass diarrhea, throwing, robbery of accounts in the West and "suicide" of the most odious and knowledgeable people. They wanted to slip Zelensky to us in Izyum, but ours did not fall for it. There is no need for us to create for him the halo of a "hero-martyr", a sufferer for Ridna Nenka.
      And forget about nuclear weapons, everything would be rattles for you, it's time to fall out of childhood.
  10. VlVl Offline VlVl
    VlVl (VladVlad) 21 October 2022 13: 40
    0
    I do not believe the author. Vilyuchinsk has no relation to the Northern Fleet. If he has no idea about our fleets, then he knows nothing about matters on a planetary scale.
    For reference. Vilyuchinsk - Kamchatka, we have Pacific Fleet there. SF - Severomorsk. Kola Peninsula.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 October 2022 15: 52
      0
      this is a mistake, not Vilyuchinsk (this is the base of the Pacific Fleet, to which BS-329 is assigned), but Gadzhiyevo, Saida Bay, Murmansk Region, Belgorod is undergoing scheduled tests in the Northern Fleet in the Kara and White Seas, surface ships of the Northern Fleet are based in Severomorsk, so your knowledge is also questionable
  11. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 21 October 2022 13: 49
    +1
    In fact, this "pact" has already been signed. Unofficially, by definition. as an intermediate.
    There are some signs of this.
    1. Turkey, in addition to the hub, was offered Cyprus. Whole. And, most likely, the Greek islands along the Turkish coast. Or maybe a piece of mainland Greece. There was nothing to supply Ukraine with weapons. And it was necessary to think when they put it in the West. Now Northern Cyprus has demanded to recognize him or to remove UN troops from Cyprus. This is necessary so that non-kosher hydrocarbons do not pass by Turkey (as a hub) on the shelf. Russia has put Turkey in charge of the southern part of hydrocarbon flows to Europe. Therefore, it will protect against the encroachments of "smugglers".
    And Israel refused to supply weapons to Ukraine. In order not to be deprived of a piece of the pie in the supply of hydrocarbons to Europe.
    2. For no apparent reason, Poland and Greece started talking about reparations from Germany. That is, they realized that Germany was being merged and falling apart. But they act at the suggestion of the World Bank and have not yet realized that they themselves will be gnawed.
    3. Obama said bluntly that it's time to "mark the boundaries" of aid to Ukraine. What caused panic in Kyiv. They didn't expect such anger there.
    4. There has been a flight of personnel in the elected headquarters of the Democrats for several weeks. Funding has run out. Significant figures such as Tulsi Gabbard leave the Democratic Party right before the elections.

    The agreements reached are now being formalized systematically. Significant factions are involved with their own resources and interests, which are not so easy to remove from their plan of action. After the US elections in early November, this will become easier.
    CBO may end much faster than the most optimistic expectations. Without the financial and material support of the West, 404 will not last even a month.
    And Europe is not going to be cannibalized by Grandpa Joe. There will be a reformatting. Including by military means. There are also many different groups there, and they will achieve their goal after the loss of US support for the EU. Borders will change. What I wrote about a long time ago.
    Well, I have already described the rest of the details in https://topcor.ru/28671-dogovornjak-k-koncu-2023-goda-ukraina-navsegda-ischeznet-s-politicheskoj-karty-mira.html#comment-id-284905 and before.
    And the official signing will take place later, not between the Russian Federation and the United States, but after agreeing on all significant differences between the leaders of future zones of influence (which are being formed just before our eyes). These are the USA, the Russian Federation, China, India, someone from Latin America, Africa. A kind of New Potsdam.
  12. Grigory Hakobyan (Grigory Hakobyan) 21 October 2022 16: 26
    0
    Poured Azev this Mr. Z
  13. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Alexander) 21 October 2022 17: 18
    -2
    People like the author in 2014 shouted in the same way that we don’t need to fight in Ukraine, they say it will fall apart on its own ... As a result of such advice, today we have what we have, which has increased many times over in size, training and armament of the Bandera army ... If Putin continues to listen to such advisers, then having failed Bandera today, in two years we will have even more problems, in the form of a Bandera army that has undergone a complete rearmament and is heavily saturated with military equipment ... You should sit repenting for your advice in 2014 in monasteries , because today they are very expensive for the Russian Federation, and you again for your own ... Involuntarily, the question arises - Are not the sent Cossacks giving Putin such advice and isn’t it time for the boys from the FSB of the Russian Federation to turn their attention to such advisers ?!
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 October 2022 18: 35
      -1
      I wrote to you in a personal, read and apologize, someone else, and you know what I wrote before the war
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 21 October 2022 18: 42
        +1
        I wrote that in 2014 such proposals were already made and it is a pity that Putin fell for such advice, today they are very expensive for the Russian Federation, and you, dear sir, instead of drawing the right conclusions from past mistakes, are suggesting that we step on the old a rake, and the result will be the same as the rejection of a radical solution to the Bandera problem in 2014, but with more serious consequences for the Russian Federation, so it’s better for YOU to withdraw your recommendations, because a respite in this war will only lead to arming to the teeth and without that of the Bandera army, which has not been badly armed since 2014 .. You need to finish them off today and now and finish them off so that they no longer come to their senses, and if this requires the methods of MASSAD or the NKVD, then they need to be used ... the war is on and it must be won by any means, with minimal damage to the Russian Federation and its indigenous population ... By the way, it is also time to raise the issue of eliminating dual citizenship in the Russian Federation, because the Russian Federation does not need citizens escaping from the Russian Federation like rats at the first but kipish ... Citizen, these are not only rights, but also duties, and since these, with dual citizenship, the duties of citizens of the Russian Federation are excessively burdensome, then their citizenship of the Russian Federation should be deprived of them once and for all, so that they live outside the Russian Federation and do not appear here again ...
        1. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
          Grei grin (Gray Grin) 21 October 2022 22: 11
          -1
          everything is correct, but unfortunately nothing will happen! why? because the enemy is in the rear!
          1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
            Sapsan136 (Alexander) 22 October 2022 16: 46
            -1
            Therefore, people who propose to return SMERSH to the Russian Federation are absolutely right ... They miss the gallows for the enemies of the people and traitors ... It's time to drive patriots of foreign states who have lost their way in the Russian Federation from the Russian Federation, and hang the most greyhounds on aspens !!!!
    2. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
      Grei grin (Gray Grin) 21 October 2022 22: 47
      0
      you are right, in Ukraine now we no longer have brothers, this new formation of ukronazis and Bandera admirers cannot be brothers for us and the respite given to them will only increase their strength, and we will chew snot like that, thinking that we will be chewing on the next specialization will definitely meet with flowers!
  14. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
    Grei grin (Gray Grin) 21 October 2022 22: 00
    -1
    And who was better, the GKChP, which has not yet managed to do anything and about which we have nothing to say, or Judas Yeltsin, who yelled "God bless America" ​​in the American Congress and did a lot of "deeds" in the country! The fact that Surovikina ordered the release of this drunk says nothing, and at the same time says a lot! Surovikin, like Lapin, led a grouping in Syria and had not yet done anything in Ukraine, and all these bombings on Ukrainian infrastructure had already been developed before him, he was simply given carte blanche to raise his prestige!
    1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
      Sapsan136 (Alexander) 22 October 2022 16: 51
      -1
      I agree on the account of the State Emergency Committee and Yeltsman, but on the account of Surovikin, let's wait and see ... I somehow also went to the authorities and knocked out an increase in salary for the department, and those who were afraid to go to the authorities then began to rustle behind me, what they say I didn’t do anything, and the increase in salary is a whim of the authorities ... Something until I went to the authorities there were no such whims ... So Surovikin ... let's see what kind of person ... so far he has not started badly ..
  15. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
    Grei grin (Gray Grin) 21 October 2022 22: 42
    0
    The author is a dreamer of which there are many in our century, but what especially made me laugh that Putin's idol turns out to be Stalin, this is something with something! He fantasized about a lot, but not a word about how the Russian people will live at the same time, but even without his fantasies it’s clear WORSE WORSE!
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  18. AntoxaRus Offline AntoxaRus
    AntoxaRus (Anton) 26 October 2022 11: 51
    0
    Hoping that the next US president will be more loyal to the Russian Federation is stupid.
    Trump approved the Pentagon budget, which included shares for the builders of Nord Stream -2, so that the new one will "help" the Russian Federation with all its might.
    German industry will not move to us. goods from the new industry need to be sold somewhere, but how to sell if the Russian Federation is under sanctions?! All foreign industry and trade has already rushed out of the Russian Federation.
    In general, "wet dreams"