Armenia and Kazakhstan plan to withdraw from the CSTO - opinion


Recently, the leadership of Kyrgyzstan announced that it was refusing to conduct the 5-day CSTO command and staff exercises "Indestructible Brotherhood - 2022" on its territory. Bishkek made this decision under pressure from the West and Turkey, which for several years has been hatching plans to create a "Central Asian NATO" under its leadership.


It should be noted that Bishkek has not yet expressed such unfriendly actions towards Moscow. However, Armenia and Kazakhstan also expressed their more serious dissatisfaction with cooperation within the CSTO, which led to a discussion in the expert community about the possible withdrawal of Yerevan and Astana from this international structure.

The thing is that throughout the month there has been a “pilgrimage” of European, American and Turkish emissaries to Central Asia and the Caucasus, as well as reciprocal “courtesy visits” of representatives of the countries of these regions to the USA, Europe and Turkey. The West and Ankara want to reformat them, tearing them away from the Russian Federation, so they use the opportunities that have appeared.

For example, analysts of the “Image of the Future” Telegram channel noticed that on September 30, 30 FBI officers flew to Yerevan from the United States. Moreover, 10 arrived at the official invitation of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Armenia, and the rest - under the guise of IT specialists and entrepreneurs. According to analysts, the prime minister of the republic, Nikol Pashinyan, plans to purge all pro-Russian groups in the country and put banking operations and the payment system under Western control in order to harm Russia, its companies and citizens.

Armenia's withdrawal from the CSTO is a foregone conclusion, as well as Kazakhstan's, which is why Pashinyan is preparing the ground for holding power and controlling the money of the opposition masses. Yerevan, like Astana, is promised big preferences for withdrawing from alliances with the Russian Federation, and the start date for the implementation of these plans is spring 2023. With the expectation that the Ukrainian crisis will reach its climax in February-March 2023, after which the dynamics and vector of events will begin to develop with uncontrollable force and speed. The main question now is in which direction this vector will be directed and whether Russia will be able to focus on resolving this issue. Lukashenka is ready to fight and win, the Kremlin is ready to be ready, but for what, it is still unclear. The promised 1-2 days of missile strikes from Abramovich have ended, but the time for intimidation actions has long ended, and the period of systematic work has not yet begun

- summarized in the publication.

Probably, in Yerevan they forgot that it was the peacekeepers from the Russian Federation who stopped the Azerbaijani troops in Nagorno-Karabakh in November 2020, and in Astana they forgot how in January 2022 the Russians literally saved the authorities of Kazakhstan from the “color revolution”. At the same time, there has been an increase in Russophobia in this republic for a long time, and the country's authorities openly condone this process.
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  1. Corsair Offline Corsair
    Corsair (DNR) 13 October 2022 12: 59
    +22
    The "fruits of Karabakh", the period when Russia stood up in a "splash", have ripened ...

    I will express one more thought that is not harmonious for the ears of Russians - once again "express regret" about something like an explosion at SP-2, move back in front of the VFU, do not bomb Banderastan in the Stone Age over the Crimean bridge - the rest will also scatter.
    NOBODY, including stoned Basmachi, wants to be in the same cage with losers.
    1. Kazimir Prutikoff (Kazimir Prutikoff) 14 October 2022 07: 48
      0
      Accurate remark!
    2. farooh Offline farooh
      farooh (Artyom Abramov) 14 October 2022 10: 07
      0
      I even registered on this site for the sake of this comment!
    3. Alexander Ponamarev (Alexander Ponamarev) 18 October 2022 07: 39
      0
      Competent analytics
  2. Alexander Popov Offline Alexander Popov
    Alexander Popov (Alexander Popov) 13 October 2022 13: 27
    0
    Armenia and Kazakhstan are planning to withdraw from the CSTO.

    This is the foreign policy of modern Russia.
    Soon everyone will scatter in the CSTO and Belarus will leave the so-called Union.
    1. alexandre II Offline alexandre II
      alexandre II (Alexander) 13 October 2022 13: 40
      +11
      This is the result of Putin's liberal policy, Russians who just do not humiliate, but the guarantor does not care ..
      1. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
        Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 13 October 2022 13: 57
        +5
        so maybe he is the guarantor of these humiliations? I want to remind you that after all, he is Borka's successor ... and the Foreign Ministry is not far from Kozyrev
        1. Dukhskrepny Offline Dukhskrepny
          Dukhskrepny (Vasya) 14 October 2022 10: 15
          +6
          Product of the color revolution 1991
      2. Benjamin Offline Benjamin
        Benjamin (Benjamin) 17 October 2022 09: 18
        +2
        It's not evening yet, ahead of us are jerks and multi-move
    2. Corsair Offline Corsair
      Corsair (DNR) 13 October 2022 14: 07
      +16
      Quote: Alexander Popov
      This is the foreign policy of modern Russia.

      Particularly indicative of the failed policy is Syria, where Russia, due to its spinelessness, is forced to "get along", or rather, shrinks next to the troops of the United States and Turkey.
      In the USSR, under Gromyko, was this conceivable?
      1. Smilodon terribilis nimis 14 October 2022 17: 16
        0
        And to remind you that it was Gromyko who chose Gorba because of his own self-interest?
  3. Vladimir80 Offline Vladimir80
    Vladimir80 13 October 2022 13: 57
    +9
    Humiliation is nonsense, but the fact that there is no tough response to every hostile step is very bad, and will most likely lead to something irreparable for our country. The CSTO is, of course, a dubious alliance, because Our country has never had real allies, but "a holy place is never empty," and Central Asia will be occupied by proxy NATO, which is 99%.
  4. Sydor Kovpak Offline Sydor Kovpak
    Sydor Kovpak 13 October 2022 15: 05
    0
    And what did NATO promise them too? And Armenia and Kazakhstan.?
    1. In passing Offline In passing
      In passing (Galina Rožkova) 13 October 2022 15: 16
      +9
      All of them will pass through Ukraine. History teaches nothing. Thanks to the Bolsheviks for the "indigenization" and indulgence of the beys and "national cadres" during it.
      1. Sydor Kovpak Offline Sydor Kovpak
        Sydor Kovpak 13 October 2022 16: 41
        +16
        I don't care about them. Who is not with us is against us. And point.!!!! These unions are made for them. Russia has been on its own for some time now. There are only traitors around!
        1. Dukhskrepny Offline Dukhskrepny
          Dukhskrepny (Vasya) 14 October 2022 10: 16
          +3
          The enemy is inside in the Kremlin
      2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
        sgrabik (Sergei) 14 October 2022 08: 38
        +3
        And what does the Bolsheviks have to do with it, liberals destroyed Russia in the 90s and turned it into what it is now, a faceless spineless consumer society, only a successful career and individual material benefits are on their minds, few people think about state interests across the country , many blame the Soviet era, but just the same in Soviet times, all the chaos and confusion that we are seeing now was simply unthinkable.
        1. Alexander Ponamarev (Alexander Ponamarev) 18 October 2022 07: 52
          0
          As far as I remember from history, in order to earn the trust of the people, on the western borders of Russia, the Bolsheviks created Ukraine by forcibly shoving Donbass into them, in Asia they created Kazakhstan to please the bays, expelling the Cossacks who originally lived there, changing just one letter, ,,, was kazakstan (Cossack camp), Kazakhstan became, forcibly shoving Rudny Altai into them, I don’t know about the Armenians
      3. Essex62 Offline Essex62
        Essex62 (Alexander) 14 October 2022 12: 58
        +1
        Did you drive the bullshit in passing? The Bolsheviks held these national cadres with an iron fist by the throat. But when, instead of the Bolsheviks, Nikitkin's slushy rebuilders climbed out, then the bais turned around to the fullest.
    2. Benjamin Offline Benjamin
      Benjamin (Benjamin) 14 October 2022 12: 44
      -2
      The Russian Federation is no longer in authority
  5. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 13 October 2022 15: 20
    -3
    Ha. Telegram channel is now "analysts"
    Everyone understands that there is HPP. Send troops to Kazakhstan and immediately withdraw, leave a hotbed of tension in Karabakh, etc. - all of it, HPP.

    Otherwise, either to attract countries economically, for which there is no money, everything went from Russia to NATO and yachts, or to drum Asia into the Stone Age. What will not work, they already partly live there
  6. zloybond Offline zloybond
    zloybond (steppenwolf) 13 October 2022 17: 58
    +9
    in Astana, they forgot how in January 2022 the Russians literally saved the authorities of Kazakhstan from the “color revolution”.

    fool An amendment is needed here: the operation in Astana was a pretext to bind Russia for a long time with the problems of Kazakhstan, while Kyiv would begin to solve its problems in the Donbas. Calling for help from Russia to Kazakhstan was an operation of the Kazakhs, together with Kyiv and their handlers, in the hope that Russian troops would get stuck there. But everyone noticed that Russia promptly made a sweep and returned to readiness on the Ukrainian border. So Kazakhstan has long been working not on our side of the field. He is already playing along with our sworn "partners".
    In Russia, all this has long been noticed. But they don't say it out loud. Perhaps we will have another "Donbas" in Kazakhstan. No wonder they periodically podvyakivayut about the indivisibility and integrity. But after Russia recognized 4 republics as its part, I think there is a little confusion in Kazakhstan, how to play further??? What if you also have to lose territory ??? hi
    1. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
      Vox_Populi (vox populi) 14 October 2022 13: 52
      -5
      Perhaps we will have another "Donbas" in Kazakhstan.

      belay Are you short of what you have??? Then run march, forward to NWO!
      I won’t talk about the “logic” and “reliability” of your other arguments, because it’s sad ... winked
      1. Smilodon terribilis nimis 14 October 2022 17: 18
        -1
        Donbass is possible there only in the Alatau mountains. In the steppes what Donbass?
      2. Herman 4223 Offline Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 (Alexander) 14 October 2022 17: 26
        0
        It will be necessary, it should already have been, but in January they put it out for a while. I wish good luck to everyone who has now rushed to Central Asia to escape the mobilization. I hope they don't get their heads cut off.
      3. Michael_3 Offline Michael_3
        Michael_3 (Mikhail Alexandrov) 19 October 2022 23: 11
        0
        do not be afraid ..... we will take what is ours (northern part of Kazakhstan)
  7. horseradish Offline horseradish
    horseradish 13 October 2022 18: 56
    +5
    And what's the point of these allies. Expect a backstab. Let them roll. It is easier for us to consider them enemies.
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 13 October 2022 21: 35
      +6
      Ally - Armenia? Don't make fun of my cat. It doesn't even border Russia. To get to Armenia, you must first pass Georgia, which is hostile to us. Always begging for something. And sometimes they give it to her. The Armenian lobby in Russia is too strong. Think! What good is Armenia to us? Kazakhstan is another matter. It is very important for Russia. One long border is worth it!
  8. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 14 October 2022 08: 52
    +1
    Allies, bln. Yes, let them fall, they will howl later ..
  9. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Leopold) 14 October 2022 09: 00
    +2
    Russia alone will not be able to build its Central Asian "allies" within the framework of the CSTO. The Russian Federation simply does not have the resources for this. The SCO is another matter. After all, China no less than Russia does not need the emergence of NATO in Central Asia. And it is necessary to bring the idea to the Chinese leadership that the Celestial Empire also take an active part in determining the political course of the Central Asian countries, primarily using the SCO. Yes, Russia will have to share its influence on the Central Asian states, but China is better than NATO bases
    1. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
      Vox_Populi (vox populi) 14 October 2022 13: 56
      -1
      And it is necessary to bring the idea to the Chinese leadership that the Celestial Empire also take an active part in determining the political course of the Central Asian countries, primarily using the SCO

      I have to disappoint you, the Chinese leadership decides for itself where and what kind of participation it should take, it really does not like other people's advice ... winked
  10. Alex D Offline Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 14 October 2022 09: 17
    +2
    While the country's leadership was handing over the country economically to the West, it did not notice how the country's weight and importance had fallen.
  11. Igor Viktorovich Berdin 14 October 2022 09: 21
    +3
    Northern Kazakhstan to the Native Harbour.
    1. Dukhskrepny Offline Dukhskrepny
      Dukhskrepny (Vasya) 14 October 2022 10: 17
      0
      First Alaska
  12. friar Online friar
    friar (truth-reader) 14 October 2022 09: 26
    +4
    All these blocs are when small, helpless states like Kazakhstan hide behind the backs of strong ones like the Russian Federation. As soon as the strong gives slack, they fall off him and run to another. They only need to be protected, they themselves never planned to shed their blood for someone. So there is nothing to be surprised, sixes scatter from fear. A woman with a cart is easier for a mare
  13. Sancym Offline Sancym
    Sancym (Alexander ) 14 October 2022 11: 14
    -1
    Again without copyright! How stupid, so without the author, or "Mr. X"! Do you even read what you write? And I read and laugh!
    1. Fourth Offline Fourth
      Fourth (Fourth) 14 October 2022 11: 33
      -2
      Don't worry about trifles. The main thing for us and the president is not to miss, as in Ukraine. And these learn, maybe.
      1. Benjamin Offline Benjamin
        Benjamin (Benjamin) 14 October 2022 12: 16
        -3
        The fact that the whole world supports the independent
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  14. Benjamin Offline Benjamin
    Benjamin (Benjamin) 14 October 2022 12: 15
    -2
    Multi-move authoritarian rule is pouring in
  15. qsemjon Offline qsemjon
    qsemjon (Semyon) 14 October 2022 13: 10
    +1
    Armenia is everything, kranty.
    Its population does not pass according to religious concepts to the Islamic Khaganate, which Turkey organizes around itself.
    Therefore, all the Pashinyans fled, and the population will be brought to a common Turkish denominator, there is experience.
  16. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
    Vox_Populi (vox populi) 14 October 2022 13: 58
    -1
    Quote: Igor Viktorovich Berdin
    Northern Kazakhstan to the Native Harbour.

    It was necessary to think about this much earlier or to work intensively and reasonably in this direction for the future using various mechanisms (primarily the so-called soft power)!
  17. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 14 October 2022 17: 42
    +1
    Until the Kremlin gives a legal definition of the Soviet coup d'état in 1991. - 1993 the former Soviet republics of the USSR will flee to NATO. The entire territory of the USSR, this is Russia, the fighting takes place on the territory of Russia. Power in 1991 captured by criminals with the assistance of NATO.
  18. lelik613 Offline lelik613
    lelik613 (Sergei) 14 October 2022 18: 42
    +1
    But there is also a positive side to this. You can straighten and flatten without being distracted by "brotherhood" and other bred things.
  19. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 14 October 2022 22: 50
    +2
    with all due respect to the Armenians, but their friendship with Russia, which has historical roots from the Turkish Armenian genocide, is inconvenient for Russia, there is no common border ... poor Armenians, where are you going? to a new genocide, who will protect you now? Kazakhstan hopes in vain to go over, a rather weak political country, it can be divided with China, .... is it stupid to be between two superpowers to live in Russian-Chinese trade and go against them? and Europe is far from Kazakhstan, they won’t be able to deliver anything .... stupid those who are in Eurasia quarreling with China and the Russian Federation, it will be bad for them ..... so you can see who betrays Russia in the CSTO, how stupid! and this is just before the fall of the EU and the USA, where the recession can no longer be hidden .... they betrayed themselves with their heads ...... Kazakhstan and Armenia may remain, but Tokaev and Pashinyan may chew their ties and be hanged .....
    1. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
      Grei grin (Gray Grin) 15 October 2022 23: 26
      0
      Why do we need traitors?

      we don’t need someone else’s, but we’ll take our own, no matter who it is

      Chernomyrdin, great words!
  20. bobba94 Offline bobba94
    bobba94 (Vladimir) 15 October 2022 10: 07
    0
    There was no joy in love
    Separation will be without sadness


    Lermontov M.Yu. "Treaty", 1841
  21. Pavel N Offline Pavel N
    Pavel N (Paul) 15 October 2022 12: 35
    0
    How many provocateurs climbed into this site!
  22. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 15 October 2022 13: 35
    0
    The flag is in your hands. Decided to go under the roof of NATO, go away. For the Russian Federation, this is even good. Carry out the denunciation of all treaties, i.e. reset. Kazakhstan will become problematic, like Ukraine, and Armenia will immediately be at war with Azerbaijan and Turkey. Let's see.
  23. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
    Grei grin (Gray Grin) 15 October 2022 23: 23
    +1
    Putin expel the entire Armenian diaspora to their homeland, let them go to the gay union to trade apricots! It’s time for the Russian authorities to grow wiser, or it has become so relaxed at the expense of the people that nothing else comes to mind except dough in the pockets!
  24. Alex D Offline Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 16 October 2022 09: 53
    0
    Quote: Spiritual
    The enemy is inside in the Kremlin

    This enemy threatened and threatens us almost new in 1917. How to get them out of there? This is usurpation. Sanctions teach them nothing. As if by agreement with NATO, they are robbing our country!
  25. Alex D Offline Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 16 October 2022 11: 07
    0
    Quote: Grei Grin
    It’s time for the Russian authorities to grow wiser, or it has become so relaxed at the expense of the people that nothing else comes to mind except the dough in the pockets!

    Apparently it is. Liberalism is not for Russia, and now the whole country is responsible for the wrong course set by its predecessors.