By winter, Western weapons will begin to "close" the sky over Ukraine


Kyiv revised its requests to the Western allies for the provision of this or that military property for further confrontation with Moscow. This was reported on October 5 by Politico, citing its sources.


The publication learned that Ukraine has made changes to the list of requested weapons. The country's authorities want to strengthen the air defense system in order to minimize the damage from the incessant missile strikes from the Russian Armed Forces, to which Iranian kamikaze UAVs have recently been added.

Within a month, the Armed Forces of Ukraine should acquire two mobile launchers of the Norwegian-American short-to-medium-range NASAMS anti-aircraft missile systems, which are produced jointly by Kongsberg and Raytheon. These SAMs can shoot down planes, helicopters, drones and missiles.

This is exactly what Ukraine is looking for

- notes the publication.

The media drew attention to the fact that the opinion of the West and the desires of Ukraine diverge somewhat. After the Armed Forces of Ukraine carried out a successful counter-offensive in the Kharkiv region and began to advance towards Kherson, Washington decided to provide more offensive weapons in order to consolidate the results achieved. At the same time, the Ukrainian side would like to focus on air defense systems so that by winter, when the Russians will go on the next offensive after partial mobilization in the Russian Federation, Western weapons will begin to "close" the Ukrainian sky.

But the latest $625 million military aid package announced by US President Joe Biden the other day did not include air defense systems. But there is artillery (cannon and rocket) and precision-guided munitions for it.

According to the publication, ex-head of NATO Anders Fogh Rasmussen also arrived in Kyiv. He is discussing a security agreement with Andriy Yermak, head of the Ukrainian president's office, and is scheduled to meet with US officials this week. The document assumes that the Western countries that have signed it will assume obligations for long-term security guarantees for Kyiv. The agreement provides for permanent material support for military operations and the restoration of Ukraine's defense industry so that it can start producing its own weapons in the coming years.
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  1. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 6 October 2022 20: 16
    +3
    At the same time, the Ukrainian side would like to focus on air defense systems, so that by winter, when the Russians go on the next offensive, after partial mobilization in the Russian Federation, Western weapons would begin to "close" the Ukrainian sky.

    I have no doubt that they will put and even more interspersed with shock weapons.
    Has anyone noticed why there are tens of thousands of Western mercenaries, but why are there no Arabs, what are they fighting for ISIS in the Middle East? It seems to me that these Arabs are already being trained at US bases in Iraq and Syria, and maybe in Afghanistan or Pakistan, just their logistics transfers will be debugged and trampled by a stream into the square bearded dushmans. Add to them thousands of Poles, Romanians and the dill themselves that are studying in the Baltic states and Poland. Then the one who says and says that Zelensky went for broke and put everything on the line will be a fool. everything that is available and that they will bring it up and I think they will bring it up in the same way for a breakthrough, but most likely it will leave them to strengthen the defense of the occupied cities along with the air defense weapon that the author indicated in the article and what Ze asks for.
  2. In passing Online In passing
    In passing (Galina Rožkova) 6 October 2022 22: 59
    +12
    Two NASAMS Kyiv will not save, by the way, the "sky" is almost closed. But help will come and go and go. And ours will shed blood. Because of co-operation, if not worse.
    1. Yuri V.A Offline Yuri V.A
      Yuri V.A (Yuri) 7 October 2022 03: 04
      +8
      Of course they won’t save, like a couple of batteries of bearded Harpoons, who simply drove the Black Sea Fleet into bases
    2. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 7 October 2022 04: 16
      -4
      There was no "collaboration", but there was and is: they got into shit without any understanding of the situation and plans for different cases, with a complete lack of funds for a long confrontation. The situation will only get worse - Russia will have less and less funds to wage war, Ukraine will have more and more funds due to the unlimited assistance of the entire West. Hastily mobilized and not trained, without elementary means for modern warfare, who will be thrown into battle on modern Western equipment, the situation will not change, but will only increase losses, which are clearly far from what the “talking robot” voices. In general, the prospects for Russia in this conflict are the saddest.
  3. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
    Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 6 October 2022 23: 21
    +3
    Russia has nowhere to hurry, they said ...
    1. Corsair Offline Corsair
      Corsair (DNR) 6 October 2022 23: 55
      +5
      Quote: Nikolai Volkov
      Russia has nowhere to hurry, they said ...

      Hollow talk generally prefer chatter to business ...
  4. gene1 Offline gene1
    gene1 (Gennady) 7 October 2022 08: 47
    +4
    Ours are two months late. Some questions. Why is the political leadership so late in making decisions? Why didn't the mobilization start in August? Why are we delaying the destruction of Ukraine's infrastructure?
    1. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 7 October 2022 10: 10
      +1
      Why are we delaying the destruction of Ukraine's infrastructure?

      Because the air defense of Ukraine / NATO does not allow cheap bombs to be thrown.
      Here is the TU22m3 - they shot back with rockets - we can still do it.

      https://topcor.ru/28511-rossija-vpervye-s-avgusta-primenila-bombardirovschiki-tu-22m3-na-ukraine.html

      But such missiles are expensive, and not enough, they cannot bear the infrastructure.
      So forget about "destruction of infrastructure".
      We just can't by normal means.

      And more:

      The Ukrainian side requested long-range weapons, including ATACMS (Army Tactical Missile System) missiles. According to the publication, Washington refused to supply these weapons to Kyiv. “The reason why we do not provide them with these weapons is that we do not agree with the strikes on the Crimea,” a source in the US Congress told the WSJ.

      https://lenta.ru/news/2022/10/07/wsj_atacms/

      So you need to understand that the removal of objects by missiles in the rear is not a one-sided game.
      Today they refused, but tomorrow?

      This once again confirms that the United States is trying not to increase the escalation.
      And it is perfectly logical and understandable why.

      (this logic really doesn’t fit into the thesis “America would have attacked us anyway, and it was from the territory of the Kherson region !!!!” - but regular and retired party organizers didn’t care about logic)
      1. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
        Vox_Populi (vox populi) 7 October 2022 18: 07
        0
        Yes, somewhere something like this, but not everyone wants to understand this ...
      2. Alik9 Offline Alik9
        Alik9 (Alik Putor) 8 October 2022 07: 23
        0
        Yes, because they are worried about gas drilling rigs in the Black Sea, agreed. As long as the infrastructure is not seriously touched, they will not be touched either.
  5. Alex Samoletov Offline Alex Samoletov
    Alex Samoletov 7 October 2022 08: 50
    +5
    The longer this conflict, the more arms are being delivered. Soon there will be abrams with leopards and then tomohawks, and it is possible that with a special charge.
  6. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 7 October 2022 14: 46
    +2
    If you write the truth, then the NWO had victories in the first month, and then there were only defeats in the form of gestures of goodwill and regroupings. According to the materials of military correspondents. The sky over Ukraine has long been closed to our aviation. The use of tactical missiles is expensive, but we have few of them. We have no analogues of precision artillery with a range of 80+ km. Our art, mainly due to low accuracy, spends three times more shells. We need a deep analysis of the ratio of weapons and their quality published in the open press. It is necessary that the people know what they have, control the government and the generals.
  7. Luenkov Offline Luenkov
    Luenkov (Arkady) 7 October 2022 18: 13
    0
    Europe is not a party to the conflict?
  8. RFR Offline RFR
    RFR (RFR) 7 October 2022 18: 38
    +3
    There are already so many questions for the Ministry of Defense, and for the General Staff ... Including where is our bomber aircraft, where are the hyped electronic warfare ... Why do they still have aircraft flying, although 300 pieces have already been shot down at Konashenkov ... They have so many there , 500, 1000...
  9. i232323b Offline i232323b
    i232323b (Igor) 8 October 2022 19: 36
    0
    Quote: Yuri V.A.
    Of course they won’t save, like a couple of batteries of bearded Harpoons, who simply drove the Black Sea Fleet into bases

    I will add, but there other weapons were added to the Harpoons - they were not driven into bases, but driven out of their native in Sevastopol towards Novorossiysk.