Poddubny: Tactics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is the old Soviet school


In recent weeks, there has been an increased activation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in several directions in the zone of the Russian NMD. The military commander of the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company in Ukraine Yevgeny Poddubny drew his attention to this.


The journalist noted on his Telegram channel on the evening of October 2 that the actions of the enemy in the Kharkiv and Kherson regions, as well as in the DPR and LPR, indicate the refusal of the Ukrainian command to storm the settlements in the forehead. He clarified that the maneuverable groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine primarily attack communications, disrupting the supply. They try to outflank the defenders and isolate them. Only after that they move on to the assault.

And no, this is not NATO tactics, this is the old Soviet school using Western weapons and modern reconnaissance equipment. Now enemy artillery is calmly preventing our forces from gaining a foothold on the new line, they are hitting the city to scare civilians, they are also hitting the life support infrastructure of Kremennaya (a city in the LPR - ed.)

– wrote Poddubny.

The journalist's concern is understandable, because on October 1, Ukrainian troops entered in the Russian city of Krasny Liman (DPR). Under the pressure of superior enemy forces, the allied forces that had been defending for several weeks were forced to withdraw first to the village of Torskoye (DPR) on the Zherebets River, and then to the town of Kremennaya on the Red River, taking up defensive positions at this line. October 2, despite the heroic resistance defenders, Ukrainian troops entered the village of Zolotaya Balka in the Kherson region and are now trying to move inland new Russian region.
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  1. Fizik13 Offline Fizik13
    Fizik13 (Alexey) 2 October 2022 19: 57
    -3
    ... The tactics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are the old Soviet school ...

    It is the Western dill curators who use the old Soviet school.
  2. Mobius Offline Mobius
    Mobius 2 October 2022 19: 58
    +4
    Poddubny: Tactics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is the old Soviet school

    And what is the conclusion? "old soviet school", performed by VFU, over and over again has a tail and a mane"New Russian army"???
    1. Mobius Offline Mobius
      Mobius 2 October 2022 20: 07
      +1
      Under pressure from superior enemy forces, the allied forces that had been defending for several weeks were forced to retreat first to the village of Torskoye (DPR) on the Zherebets River, and then to the city of Kremennaya on the Red River, taking up defense at this line

      Official Russian propaganda says that up to 6 people were involved in the siege-assault of the Red Liman. Enemy drugs, of which about 000 were "controlled".

      And this is "IN A FEW WEEKS" ??? one thousand , while, as soon as according to the blissful reports of the MO, daily Bandera up to 500 - 700 Nazis ...

      And in general ... It turns out that 6 banderlogs (full-fledged 000 regiments), collectively dispersed parts of the 3th OVA (Army!) , NM DPR, LPR and PMCs with volunteers?
      1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
        Dart2027 2 October 2022 20: 43
        +1
        Quote: Möbius
        up to 500 - 700 Nazis are bandied daily ...

        It's all over the place.

        Quote: Möbius
        It turns out that 6 banderlogs (full-fledged 000 regiments) dispersed the units in aggregate

        And how many there were, otherwise the parts are a relative concept.
        1. Mobius Offline Mobius
          Mobius 2 October 2022 22: 34
          +2
          Quote: Dart2027
          It's all over the place.

          No ... Just talking about reports of strikes exclusively with "high-precision weapons" in the deep rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, or - "in places of temporary deployment" of certain units of the AFU and mercenaries in the frontline zone ...
          1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
            Dart2027 2 October 2022 23: 03
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            Quote: Möbius
            We are talking about reports of strikes exclusively with "high-precision weapons" in the deep rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, or - "in places of temporary deployment"

            AND? Is it all near Red Liman? No.
            1. Mobius Offline Mobius
              Mobius 3 October 2022 00: 33
              +2
              Quote: Dart2027
              AND? Is it all near Red Liman? Not

              That's exactly what's not...
              Somewhere on the fronts (excluding Liman) they are "grinding" per day up to 500 dill (according to reports), and under Liman itself, at the advancing Ukrainians (do you understand that the attackers always have more losses because of their vulnerability?) - the loss of 1 people. BOS for a couple of weeks of intense clashes ...
              And I didn’t take the number 1 from the “ceiling” ... It was quite officially declared by the RF Ministry of Defense almost as a victory - "Selflessly exhausted in the battles of the enemy"
              1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
                Dart2027 3 October 2022 05: 59
                -1
                Quote: Möbius
                Somewhere on the fronts (excluding Liman) up to 500 dill are "threshed" per day (according to reports)

                When a missile hits the barracks, it is rather difficult to calculate how many people it has crushed from the drone-observer, so the actual losses are more likely to be higher.
                1. Mobius Offline Mobius
                  Mobius 3 October 2022 13: 26
                  +4
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  When a missile hits the barracks, it is rather difficult to calculate how many people it has crushed from the drone-observer, so the actual losses are more likely to be higher.

                  Accountants from the Moscow Region, with numbers "for you" - will draw any.
                  Not so long ago, Konashenko spoke lively about how foreign mercenaries were fleeing, and how scrupulously the Defense Ministry was aware of ALL the movements of this contingent.

                  And suddenly(!!!) fellow , the same MO stuns us with numbers about hundreds of Polish, Romanian
                  and other mercenaries under the Red Estuary.

                  This is apparently in order to say - "You see, we did not run from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but from mercenary specialists"
                  Yes-ah-ah ... If there were no mercenaries, for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, you would definitely pile on ...
                  1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
                    Dart2027 3 October 2022 19: 17
                    -1
                    Quote: Möbius
                    Accountants from the Moscow Region, with numbers "for you" - will draw any.

                    That is, there is nothing to say.

                    Quote: Möbius
                    Not so long ago, Konashenko spoke vividly about how foreign mercenaries were fleeing

                    And how many of them are left, as well as the fact that the United States is recruiting them wherever possible.

                    Quote: Möbius
                    Yes-ah-ah ... Don't be mercenaries

                    then there would be much more corpses of the APU-shnikov, although there are already plenty of them.
        2. Mobius Offline Mobius
          Mobius 3 October 2022 00: 51
          +2
          Quote: Dart2027
          And how many there were, otherwise the parts are a relative concept.

          But these figures are already within the competence of the RF Ministry of Defense.

          Although what competence of these "commanders" can we talk about in this situation request recourse ...

          Either lodge negative or bastards negative .
  3. EVYN WIXH Offline EVYN WIXH
    EVYN WIXH (EVYN WIXH) 2 October 2022 20: 05
    +3
    They carried out several waves of mobilization, armed themselves with good Western weapons, and trained several tens of thousands of soldiers abroad. Everyone knew about it, but there was no reaction. Here is the result...
    1. Mobius Offline Mobius
      Mobius 2 October 2022 20: 32
      +2
      Quote: EVYN WIXH
      They carried out several waves of mobilization, armed themselves with good Western weapons, and trained several tens of thousands of soldiers abroad. Everyone knew about it, but there was no reaction. Here is the result...

      Here is the documentary evidence:

      The battle for Kherson: the situation on the Olginsky site
      as of 18.30 October 2, 2022

      Ukrainian formations continue the offensive launched yesterday on the right flank of the Krivoy Rog direction.

      ▪️During the attack from Osokorovka, the Armed Forces of Ukraine managed to establish control over the settlement of Zolotaya Balka, as well as Shevchenkovka and Lyubimovka.

      ▪️The enemy uses a significant numerical superiority in manpower, caused by the rare orders of the RF Armed Forces in the entire direction.

      ▪️At the moment, fighting continues along the entire line of contact. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are trying to move south along the Dnieper towards Dudchan and Berislav.

      @rybar

      Difficult situation in the south: The enemy is conducting a powerful tank offensive, breaking through towards Berislov
      ▪️Yesterday, tank and infantry battalions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked from Novovorontsovka in the direction of Khreschenovka.
      ▪️The enemy was met by our howitzers and MLRS, which stopped the pressure of the enemy.
      Army aviation helicopters also came into play, burning enemy equipment.
      ▪️Our tanks did not come to the rescue in time and the enemy threw new forces and continued the offensive.
      ▪️The forces of the 126th brigade came to the aid of the 80th coastal defense brigade.
      ▪️During the first day of heavy fighting, ours burned down 15-20 infantry fighting vehicles and up to 10 tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      ▪️Our people withdrew from the gray zone from Lyubimovka.
      ▪️ Oskorovka and Zolotaya Balka were also abandoned, in the evening the enemy approached Dudchany on the banks of the Dnieper.
      ▪️The enemy continues to put pressure, stubborn battles continue, our fighters really need reinforcements.
      ▪️From the positive: Our troops repelled the attack on Davydov Ford near the river. Ingulets and Pravdino, dozens of enemy vehicles were destroyed, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have a large number of dead and wounded.

      t.me/RVvoenkor
  4. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 2 October 2022 20: 53
    +1
    here the telegram channels write that the same thing is happening in the south, we are slowly retreating, again there are no reinforcements yet.
    1. kapitan92 Offline kapitan92
      kapitan92 (Vyacheslav) 2 October 2022 21: 35
      +4
      Quote: rotkiv04
      What the hell is going on

      System at work! Here's what's happening. Lies on lies. A mess, in a word.
      300000 were called up, there is nothing to "shoe, dress". Mobilization under the heading - buy it yourself!
      The culprit was appointed deputy for the rear, the 68th general, who calmly retired.
      There is no UAV, but there is a new director of Roskosmos, Borisov, who oversaw this direction in the government.
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    2. bonifacius Offline bonifacius
      bonifacius (Alex) 2 October 2022 23: 13
      +1
      Yes, we urgently need to start military maneuvers together with China on Sakhalin or Kamchatka.
      1. Mobius Offline Mobius
        Mobius 3 October 2022 13: 16
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        Quote: bonifacius
        Yes, we urgently need to start military maneuvers together with China on Sakhalin or Kamchatka.

        To even win there?
  5. EVYN WIXH Offline EVYN WIXH
    EVYN WIXH (EVYN WIXH) 2 October 2022 21: 13
    +1
    Not at all military, but in the textbook on NVP (initial military training) of a secondary school in the USSR, it was said that for the success of an offensive, a threefold (at least) superiority is necessary (probably, taking into account relatively equal technical capabilities). How did they get there before? The General Staff of the Russian Federation decided to refute the old military knowledge, and now ... It didn’t work out very well ... Now the question is - will it be possible to fix it? It is better to keep silent about the price of such a correction.
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 2 October 2022 21: 42
      +2
      Quote: EVYN WIXH
      Not at all military, but in the textbook on NVP (initial military training) of a secondary school in the USSR, it was said that for the success of an offensive, a threefold (at least) superiority is necessary (probably, taking into account relatively equal technical capabilities). How did they get there before? The General Staff of the Russian Federation decided to refute the old military knowledge, and now ... It didn’t work out very well ... Now the question is - will it be possible to fix it? It is better to keep silent about the price of such a correction.

      and there, in the General Staff of the Ministry of Regroupings, there is one ideologist of the new Russian military school named Gerasimov, so he should be asked how this was supposed to happen
      1. bonifacius Offline bonifacius
        bonifacius (Alex) 2 October 2022 23: 15
        +4
        Gerasim is silent. But Konashenkov is an eagle.
        1. Mobius Offline Mobius
          Mobius 3 October 2022 13: 14
          +3
          Quote: bonifacius
          Gerasim is silent.

          Gerasim, "Moo-mu" ...
  6. Anadyrean Offline Anadyrean
    Anadyrean (Hanson) 2 October 2022 22: 50
    +1
    Sorry, but I repeat. Where are the thousands of promised reconnaissance and strike drones? Didn't have time to build? Why? Where are the vaunted satellites transmitting the picture in real time? On the drawings?
  7. bonifacius Offline bonifacius
    bonifacius (Alex) 2 October 2022 23: 32
    +7
    It seems that they fought "to the point". There are no reserves at all. The generals did not want to spoil the generalissimo's mood with bad news. He probably likes the reports from Konashenkov.
    If the Armed Forces of Ukraine are fighting according to the old Soviet tactics, then what tactics are the RF Armed Forces fighting on? Although I already know the answer to the front, we are not fighting, but are conducting a special military operation. Therefore, the result is such a special one. In general, only obscene expressions and definitions are on my mind.
  8. alsi61 Offline alsi61
    alsi61 (Alexey) 3 October 2022 13: 37
    +1
    This is the German tactics of the 41st year. Several tanks and a company of infantry went to the rear road, shot at the rear and trucks -. brought the nix Our division abandoned the wounded, guns with ammo, all the equipment. and in small groups "left the encirclement" at night, in the forests as part of one-fourth, the rest surrendered or dispersed into "partisans". And now you don’t even need tanks - a few armored cars. And there are no divisions - ours are fighting with some small units and they don’t have an artillery regiment, some batteries are at most divisions. It worked against crests, it doesn’t roll against NATO. It looks more like a civilian one, no full profile trenches, no dugouts, no pillboxes, no bunkers. Maybe it's time for civilians to dig for defense once the military is either too lazy or they don't know how, with reserve positions, firing sectors, targeted landmarks, full-length communications. True, first you need an order to go on the defensive, evacuate civilians, mine roads and bridges. And it takes courage to do so.
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  10. Lev Rudey Offline Lev Rudey
    Lev Rudey (Lev Rudey) 3 October 2022 18: 46
    +1
    the tactics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are already NATO templates applicable to modern network-centric warfare, and not the statutory, archaic, petrified Soviet shit, which is still revered by zhirobyas in stripes, like, "as the experience of the Second World War teaches us ...". What we all, alas, see in practice.
  11. viktor goblin Offline viktor goblin
    viktor goblin (viktor goblin) 4 October 2022 10: 50
    0
    What is yours? No .. I understand . What is there?
  12. Oleg V. Offline Oleg V.
    Oleg V. (Oleg Vladimirovich) 7 October 2022 15: 30
    0
    They prepared, they were prepared... And who prevented ours from preparing? We were told that there was no need for mobilization. Well, okay, they lied to us, but they themselves should have been aware that there were killed and wounded in the battles and they needed to be replaced. Who interfered with the collection of volunteers, the formation of units, who interfered with their training. And to work with those who served and have combat experience. Such and such conditions, such and such buns. Communicate with convicts and promise to remove the criminal record and pay and employment later .... We don’t have instructors ??? Armament also tends to wear out. Who prevented the formation of warehouses with weapons, uniforms, medicines???? We have been butting heads since February, so by the end of summer half a year had already passed. During this time, it was possible to form a hundred thousand. But in reality, everything is like at a Russian construction site - a mess