Explosions at Nord Stream will have far-reaching consequences


Epigraph: “One day you will find a crumpled disposable mask in your pocket and smile nostalgically, adjusting your bulletproof vest”


Well, my dear friends, have you read the epigraph? What thoughts will be? Now, looking at how our Nord Streams 1 and 2, blown up by who knows who, are slowly filling up with sea water, don’t you think that we have been doing the wrong thing all this time?

The price of one wrong decision


I will not pour soup on your back now, reminding you of Yanukovych's 3 billion debt, which Ukraine will never return to us, and about 368 billion dollars of our gold and foreign exchange reserves stolen from us by vile Yankees, which we will also never see again. Something completely different came to mind now - how our venerable political scientists convinced us two years ago that the coming of the Democrats to power in America brings us a lot of benefits, they, they say, unlike the eccentric, bound hand and foot Trump, are sane, negotiable people and with them we will succeed. How do you like success? I think it's awesome! It is now clear who these “experts” worked for, it is strange that they have not yet escaped and are at large. I suspect that we may not wait for the arrival of Trump, we will smash this world to smithereens even under Grandpa Joe.

Remember how much effort we put in, how many copies we broke, laying this fucking SP-2, which cost Gazprom 9,5 billion euros (half with European partners). His brother SP-1 also cost us a pretty penny at one time - we carelessly dug 7,4 billion euros into the bottom of the Baltic Sea. In terms of the degree of idiocy, this contribution to sea sand can only compete with a purse stuffed with money, left by a careless owner for the night under a tree, hoping to pick it up in the morning. Naive people, what did they expect? We sat down with cheaters to play cards and are still surprised that they threw us. They have five aces in each deck, and they themselves set the rules of the game and change them every day.

I don’t even want to remember about the epic of laying SP-2, its certification, insurance and registration in German jurisdiction through all the obstacles of the Third Energy Package. The Akademik Chersky alone and its retrofitting to solve the assigned tasks cost us $1,1 billion. And there was also his heroic unprecedented transition from the Pacific Ocean to the North Atlantic through the waters of the Indian Ocean around the Cape of Good Hope, accompanied by warships of the Russian Navy, which also cost the treasury a fair amount. And all for what? So that the vile Germans take away the daughter of Gazprom, registered in German jurisdiction, from us, and the Akademik Chersky, who circumnavigated the world across three oceans, could not complete the task assigned to him, leaving it to be solved by the poor Fortuna pipe-laying barge, which does not even have dynamic positioning ?

But it was precisely because of this pipe that we postponed the solution of the Ukrainian issue at the time. Now, they said, we will stretch the pipe and put Square on its knees. Purely economic methods. Well, what did you put in? Well worth it? Sustainable? This is where the genius of our top political leadership manifested itself. Yes, what is the manual, because I myself wrote about this a year ago:

Putin's task is to allow Biden to save face, and this is precisely why the combination with Ukraine was started, which Putin supposedly should attack. Here - Biden achieved non-aggression, and in return he had to sign the DRMSD, under which his Tomahawks fall, after which we are not afraid of missile defense in Poland and Romania. It remains to resolve the issue with Ukraine. We will choke purely economically, for a start we will turn off the gas and electricity.

Well, am I an idiot? You can already see how we turned off the gas and electricity for her. It was necessary to strangle this reptile back in 2014, without waiting for peritonitis, taking advantage of the request of the fugitive Yanukovych to restore the violated constitutional order. Then Putin did not dare. Although there was absolutely no risk - everything was within the limits of international law, no UN would have undermined the nose. They took advantage of the request of the legitimately elected president, how does this case differ from the Syrian (2015), Belarusian (2020) or Kazakh (2022) case? Putin is a lawyer, in this case all the points of the law would have been observed (the permission to send troops from the Federation Council of the Russian Federation was in his pocket, but he did not risk it!). Yes, then our glorious “Krymnash” would not exist together with the LDNR, but there would be no fascist Ukraine in return. And tell me which is better? Now we spit blood.

We are all smart in hindsight. Re-reading my notes from the period of the December 2021 diplomatic crisis that preceded the NWO, I marvel at my naivety:

According to my information, six BDKs are going to Cuba, such a distracting surprise, in the holds of the 152nd Guards Rifle Brigade (Chernyakhov Brigade) "Iskanders" with R-500 cruise missiles as ammo (one volley of the brigade is 24 KR with a radius of action, which no one knows - so the Yankees will check for themselves how far the R-500 fly, this is at least 4,5 thousand km). The submarine also accompanies, the Yankees are already alarmed, another “Caribbean crisis” is brewing, but they will either accept our conditions or not accept our conditions - one of the two, the third is not given! Ukraine will already get a makeweight, no one is going to fight for it - there are so many mentally handicapped victims of the TV that we cannot digest such a number.

But now, on the verge of a real “Caribbean Crisis-2.0”, you think, maybe it was worthwhile then to equip these large landing ships not in the Crimea, but really send them to Cuba, maybe now we would not have fought in Ukraine with its drug-addicted pro-American president , but would resolve issues with its overseas owners. It's stupid, you know, to fight with the investigation on Bankova Street, when the cause of our troubles is in the White House! But I also got smart:

Do you want to play "Vanguards" around the White House? Not an option! The highest aerobatics is to achieve your goal without a single shot, as in the Crimea.

And he hinted at some mysterious Putin’s weapon, which he uncovered the day before (it was about the A-929 Nudol anti-satellite missile of the ground-to-space class, which we tested on November 15, 2021, destroying it in low Earth orbit, at an altitude of 550 km, his old meteorological satellite of the Cosmos-1408 series):

As for Putin's "gifts", this is only to complete the topic of blackmail, it is clear that they are not scared by this, they are buried by this. In the next text, I will tell you about one little thing that caused this commotion (the same "Nudol" - author's note), but we can’t use it either - they put it on the table, think! So they became thoughtful, I do not rule out that Plan A is possible - an agreement, and everything that we are now witnessing is an information cover operation, moreover, from the American side. We have nothing to cover up, we play openly, as Putin loves, the cards are dealt, they are revealed, they believe who has the higher suit? We have! Please shave, please! And if you don't want to shave, then plan "B" is peace enforcement. Six BDKs, accompanied by a reconnaissance ship, are haunting me, heading south now, very heavily loaded, what are they carrying? Mystery! But BDKs are not the ships that decide the outcome of the battle at sea, so we are looking at the land, what do we have there? We think...

What happened next, you yourself know - the NWO began, and the very BDKs that I wrote about were never used for the amphibious assault on Odessa for reasons known to you. Now, re-reading my old notes dated December last year, I think: “Lord, how naive we were!”. And now we have not yet reached the peak of our confrontation with the United States. But by blowing up our gas pipelines, the Yankees made the largest contribution to Putin uncovering the very weapon of retaliation. Really walk on the edge, although Putin is definitely not joking.

Accident


And on September 27, it began. Not even seven months have passed since the start of the SVO. If until this day we observed flowers, now Grandpa Joe sprinkled us with berries. You know the chronology of events.

On September 26, the operator of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, Nord Stream 2 AG, reported a sharp drop in pressure on one of its strings:

Tonight, the Nord Stream 2 onshore site controller recorded a sharp drop in pressure in line A.

A spokesman for pipeline operator Nord Stream 2 AG specified that the pressure dropped from 105 to 7 bar due to a "hole in the pipe". On Tuesday morning, September 27, Gazprom's subsidiary Nord Stream AG made an official statement announcing unprecedented damage to the company's two gas pipelines that run under the Baltic Sea to Germany - Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2:

The destruction that occurred on the same day simultaneously on three strings of the offshore gas pipelines of the Nord Stream system is unprecedented. It is not yet possible to estimate the timing of the restoration of the gas transmission infrastructure

the company said in a statement.

Two days later, on September 2, the Swedish Coast Guard, in their exclusive economic waters, discovered a leak on the last, fourth line of the SP-29. In total, we can state that the leak, for reasons unknown to us so far, happened on the night of September 2 on all four branches of both Nord Streams at once in two places spaced from each other at a distance of 26-30 km - northeast and southeast the Danish island of Bornholm simultaneously in Danish and Swedish exclusive economic waters. This fact was confirmed by the Danish Maritime Authority and the Swedish Coast Guard.

On the morning of September 27, Nord Stream said that leaks and pressure drops make it possible to say with confidence that physical damage to the pipeline led to violations of the tightness of the gas pipeline.

Nord Stream AG will use all necessary resources to carry out the damage assessment in cooperation with the local authorities. It is currently impossible to estimate the timing of the restoration of the gas pipeline's operability. The causes of the incident will be established as a result of the investigation.

– was said in the message of the company.

Assessment and consequences of what happened


The very next day after the incident, the German publication Der Tagesspiegel, citing sources related to the investigation of the accidents that took place, reported that sabotage could be the cause:

We cannot imagine a scenario that is not a targeted sabotage, one of the participants in the investigation, which is being conducted by federal authorities, told the publication. The source noted that this kind of sabotage is “far from trivial” and requires the involvement of special forces, such as sea divers or a submarine.

As for the submarine, the source obviously got excited, given the depths where the accident occurred - 40-60 meters, but with the beneficiaries of the events that occurred, the source was already closer to the truth.

Experts are inclined to two possible reasons for the "alleged attacks," notes Der Tagesspiegel. First, the damage to the pipelines may be the responsibility of Ukrainian forces or forces associated with Ukraine, which, having its own gas transportation system, has always opposed Nord Stream. The second version of the publication's sources is "Russia's operation carried out under a false flag."

This could create additional uncertainty and push gas prices higher, further exacerbating the European energy cost crisis, which has eased somewhat of late.

- thoughtfully noted the source of the newspaper.

Indeed, spot prices soared by 28% the very next day, September 25, from $1680 to $2100 per thousand. cubic meters, however, then they still rolled back to the mark of 1850-1880 dollars / thousand cubic meters. cubes, because it is very difficult to blackmail the European market with something that does not exist. Indeed, at the time of the accident (sabotage), Russia was pumping “zero point and zero tenths” of its gas through both Nord Streams. PS-1 was shut down on September 2 due to problems with Siemens turbines, and PS-2, having passed certification, did not receive a license to operate from the German side for far-fetched political reasons, although it was filled with industrial gas and was ready for exploitation, being under pressure, waiting for the permission and consent of the German counterparts.

And these “partners” are all like a blueprint, spitting on common sense, following their transatlantic obligations, they no longer considered any other versions of sabotage, except for the Russian one. In the German press, the term "sabotage" has already slipped through, which they began to impose on the German inhabitants with persistence worthy of better use. I do not know what the word "sabotage" means in German, but in Russian this word means "inaction", which does not fit into the deliberate undermining of one's own gas pipeline. Why would the Russians undermine their own costly transportation infrastructure when it's much cheaper to just turn off the valve? I know how you can blackmail with a pipe filled with gas, but I don't know how you can blackmail with a pipe filled with sea water - it's beyond my understanding. Maybe for European cretins such an explanation will work, but even there they know how to count money. Let them think at their leisure that it’s cheaper to simply turn off the gas, in the hope that the client will ripen with the onset of cold weather, or blow up the pipe, releasing only technical gas worth 2 billion dollars from it, without having the slightest idea what its repair will cost, and indeed, is it possible ?! The task is not even for the 2nd grade of elementary school.

At the same time, the funniest thing was watching the Ukrainian media and Russian defectors sitting on the suction of their overseas masters. They all suddenly began to discuss versions of what happened, in which there was anything but the option of sabotage by their British and American sponsors, who, in fact, are the only beneficiaries of what happened. The states are becoming beneficiaries in two directions at once - the first is the opportunity to sell their LNG to unfortunate Europeans at a scrap price, and second, and most importantly, the overseas mainland becomes a refuge for European capital and industry fleeing the Old World in search of cheap energy, gas and quiet financial harbors. Britain is vitally interested in the collapse of the EU, which will inevitably happen due to the financial and energy problems that have fallen on the Old World, which will entail a fatal outflow of capital and almost 60 percent deindustrialization.

But our Ukrainian “friends” and their Russian corrupt experts, behind whose backs, without even hiding, Uncle Sam’s ears stick out, at the same time claimed that the Nord Stream accident was either purely man-made due to the fact that armless Russian welders do not know how to weld joints on large-diameter pipes with high quality, and the gas leak goes through the gap in the seam; or this is outright sabotage and sabotage on the part of Gazprom, which launched special “pigs” robots through the pipe (what experts - such associations!), Which blew up the pipe from the inside in the right place. True, when the “experts” learned that the accident also occurred at SP-1, which was already being welded by handy European contractors, the version with handless Russians disappeared from them, and they concentrated either on the seismic nature of the damage, or all on the same sabotage by Gazprom .

What they will say when the Danish robot, now working at the bottom of the Baltic Sea, delivers them pictures of a damaged pipe with a hole bent not outward, but inward, I don’t know, they will probably say then that Russian saboteurs blew up the pipe with the help of a deep submersible GUGI MO RF (Main Directorate for Deep Sea Research of the RF Ministry of Defense). True, such specialists work at depths much greater than 40-60 meters, where the accident occurred, and why did they have to undermine the pipe in Danish and Swedish economic waters, when this could be done in Russian?

Why Russian saboteurs needed to sail so far from the Russian coast, I will not discuss here now, let those who are paid for this discuss this nonsense, but I would like to concentrate on the topic of the alleged benefits of Gazprom from undermining its own pipe. As I said above, it is zero. Only Ukrainians can be blackmailed with an empty pipe, and such a window of opportunity will soon open for them. What they will do when the "aggressive aggressor" cuts off their gas, I don't know. Probably, they will beg for it from their European partners, since there is nowhere else (Square still does not have a border with America). And the Europeans do not even have enough of their own gas. I don't know and don't want to know how they will be heated already this winter, given that their UGS reserves will last only for two or three months, even with the gas-consuming industry stopped. These are already their problems, let them drown with the promises of grandfather Joe about the supply of his wonderful LNG, only let them take into account that the price for it now in Southeast Asia is lower than theirs. What happens if it's the other way around? Where will the LNG tanker caravans go, let them ask the blind hand of the market, which will soon begin to rummage through their empty pockets. Let me remind you that Russian gas supplies to the European market amounted to 45%, and this amount of gas cannot be compensated for in the next 3-4 years. Even if they survive this winter by stopping and killing their own industry, then next year will be the beginning of their end. What will happen to Ukraine in this case, and what kind of ass it will be after this winter, I can’t even imagine. There is no ass that can contain Ukraine. Amen!

I am compelled to put an end to this. Reinforced concrete evidence, whose ears stick out from the bottom of the Baltic Sea, and what consequences this sabotage will lead to, I will tell in the next text. Believe me, the consequences of this step are much worse and more terrible than you could even imagine. Grandpa Joe, having blown up our gas pipelines, opened Pandora's box, not even realizing what consequences this could lead to. Now the ball is on Putin's side and his response will be asymmetrical. But after this answer, everything will collapse. In the literal sense of the word. And now I'm not talking about our nuclear club at all.

Wait for the continuation. Your Mr. Z
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  1. Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich 2 October 2022 20: 33
    +12
    I don’t agree with the author of the article in one thing - our President Putin, n-i-k-o-g-d-a will not cut off the gas to his partners. living outside of Russia. And no SVO should be an obstacle to receiving income from the supply of gas and oil to the west. If Britain blows up all branches of gas pipelines, including Turkish, then I think we will supply gas and oil by road. I am always surprised at naive desires to shut off gas and oil. Naivety is worse than stupidity.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 2 October 2022 20: 48
      -2
      why spout nonsense? open at least Wikipedia and see who owns the controlling stakes in Gazprom, Rosneft, Lukoil, Surgutneftegaz, Tatneft, Slavneft, Russneft and a dozen oil and gas companies, among which only Novatek is private, everything else is state property, and Novatek only exploits the subsoil, not being their owner
      1. Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich 2 October 2022 21: 22
        +7
        So you write to whom? Recently, even Solovyov was indignant about this issue. The President once said. that the nationalization of wells will not lead to anything good. And Khodarkovsky, Abramovich, who, just directors? Nonsense on Wikipedia, a lot of things are written there. Why did they change the constitution? Isn’t it so that the subsoil no longer belongs to the people, at least on paper? So, dear comrade, you’re talking nonsense. We don’t own anything now, the only tax. Maybe Wikipedia says who owns the defense enterprises? a lot of things have been written on it too. Pay attention to the word written-consonant with the word-written (wet). And why are the communists fighting so hard for the nationalization of the subsoil? Wikipedia writes about some transactions with gold and silver that this organization recently made. I also read about this in what was written, but not on Wikipedia, and if this is not true, then it was also written about it. The best source of what, where and to whom belongs, contact the Communist Party of Russia, this is their trump card, unlike Wikipedia, they will not lie.
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 2 October 2022 21: 44
          +1
          again - blah blah blah ... Abramovich sold his stake to the state, Khodarkovsky lost it in court, everything else is state property, go to the websites of the companies I mentioned above and find out who their owner is, before you trynd here in the comments, it’s better check yourself so as not to get into stupid situations
          1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 3 October 2022 00: 32
            +3
            Mr Volkonsky. you can figure out Gazprom how many shares the Russian Federation has - only half (50%), check your unfounded statements with the facts, and in addition, individuals with salaries and bonuses, dividends of tens and hundreds of millions of US dollars a YEAR manage state property. , (that's why the flat tax scale in the Russian Federation). On the face of the robbery of national wealth by clans of attached officials. This is possible only in colonial countries, and the Russian Federation was essentially created by a colony for the exploitation of natural resources, because the funds received go back to the west to the buyers-exploiters. (more than 100 billion US dollars were withdrawn from the Russian Federation a year) .. This is a secret colonial rule of the Russian Federation, and do not defend it, because the comprador ruling of the tops of the Russian Federation profited and settled down in the same west ..
            1. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
              soloist2424 (Oleg) 3 October 2022 17: 17
              +2
              If all the riches and resources of Russia belong to the West, then what is the war for?
        2. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
          Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 3 October 2022 13: 52
          0
          Somehow I was also ridiculed by one of the first deputies of the governor (accidentally, he somehow lay in the paid chamber of the BSMP) in response to my "JSC Russian Railways ultimately belongs to the state."
          But the mechanism refused to reveal.
          So that..
      2. Eugene Bright Offline Eugene Bright
        Eugene Bright (Eugene Bright) 2 October 2022 21: 22
        0
        It is necessary to distinguish between formal (from a legal point of view) owners and them, these "owners" of the actual owners!
      3. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
        Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 2 October 2022 21: 27
        -1
        Control - is 25% + 1 share. And the rest?
        1. Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich 2 October 2022 21: 31
          +1
          Probably right - 51% is the owner, the rest of the donors, everyone is fighting for this percentage.
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  2. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Leopold) 2 October 2022 21: 21
    0
    There is no doubt that the stubborn desire to supply gas to Germany, namely Germany, at all costs, is associated with Putin's special attitude towards this country. Service in the GDR, knowledge of the German language and culture played a significant role in this. But the reality is that the old attachments should be thrown away and finally begin to work seriously with the East and Asia in general, something that should have been done 10 years ago. Well, it didn’t work out to squeeze with a gas pipe under the arm into the European Kalash series. Life goes on and we must move on
    1. Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich 2 October 2022 23: 23
      +8
      One can only guess about Putin. The mystery of the century .. A good person himself, surrounded by a dubious reputation, fights for the independence of Russia, and supplies the enemies with everything that is in Russia, wants to have a good and professional army, but does not want to pay good salaries to soldiers and officers, starts mobilization of 300 thousand and allows a million conscripts to escape abroad, wants the people to receive good salaries and pensions, but invests billions in Western banks, wants to win in the SVO, but the leadership of this instructs unprofessional generals, you can write another two or three dozen riddles. But in unlike Lenin, he definitely loves his people (under more than one leader, the Chechens were not such patriots of Russia, and most Russians fell in love with them more than themselves), unlike Stalin, he is not a dictator, otherwise, those who can read, and even more so to write on the Internet, they would already be sitting (maybe lying), the rest fought, unlike Khrushchev, they don’t grow corn in the north, and grain crops throughout Russia are growing, improving roads are decorated, cities are decorated, unlike Brezhnev, he does not kiss men, does not write books about Little Germany and is not four times a hero of Russia and the CIS, unlike Yeltsin, he does not drink, goes in for sports, does not shout glory to America, does not collect all the spies world, does not lead them to secret facilities, unlike Gorbachev, does not rebuild anything, does not drag his wife around the world. He probably gets used to his subordinates, like we do to our dogs (he doesn’t bark, crap everywhere, but it’s a pity to throw it out), therefore, generals of all kinds and officials of all ranks are accumulating, but this is another mystery.
      1. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
        Colonel Kudasov (Leopold) 3 October 2022 03: 16
        +3
        We can agree that Putin is a controversial figure. But such is the nature of man in general and there is no point in digging into it. Much more productive than the analogy from History. I am not the only one who considers the personality and the management of the GDP to be very similar to the reign of Nicholas I. There are a lot of similarities here, from trying to build a flawlessly functioning bureaucracy to trifles, like love for hefty dogs. The reign of Nicholas was long, a whole era, like the GDP and radical reforms, he preferred the natural course of events. The reign of Nicholas was outwardly calm and stable, art and literature flourished, but all this stability went to dust in the Crimean War. What was the Crimean War? Yes, nothing more than a confrontation between Russia and the collective West for a third country, then Turkey. Nothing reminds you?
      2. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
        soloist2424 (Oleg) 3 October 2022 17: 19
        0
        Lots of words, little meaning.
      3. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
        aslanxnumx (Aslan) 3 October 2022 20: 25
        0
        Can Putin become a dictator?
  3. RFR Offline RFR
    RFR (RFR) 2 October 2022 21: 40
    +1
    It's not all in vain ... But Miller became a hero of labor .... And the entire brilliant general staff is entirely the heroes of Russia ...
  4. zuuukoo Offline zuuukoo
    zuuukoo (Sergei) 2 October 2022 22: 11
    +7
    Quote: RFR
    It's not all in vain ... But Miller became a hero of labor .... And the entire brilliant general staff is entirely the heroes of Russia ...

    What's wrong with the General Staff?
    The information that the Ukrainians are ready to meet the troops with flowers most likely came from the SVR and others (hello to Naryshkin).
    Mobilization and the "laws of war" is not a decision of the General Staff, but of politicians.
    And if at first Putin suffered garbage for 8 years, instead of crushing the reptile in the bud, and then for another six months he could not be born with mobilization - what does the General Staff have to do with it?!!!

    The only thing they are to blame for is that they did not resign collectively in the spring, saying to Putin that "either give the required number of soldiers and equipment, or go ....".
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 2 October 2022 22: 29
      +1
      speak the truth, the task assigned to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation was impossible with that number of troops, although, alas, it could not have done without our sloppiness, a national character trait - the Russians harness slowly, but they drive fast
    2. VlVl Offline VlVl
      VlVl (VladVlad) 3 October 2022 14: 11
      +1
      Naryshkin, I think, reported his thoughts and knowledge to the Supreme. I remember Naryshkin's face when the VVP asked him about his consent to the special operation. After repeating the question, he was only able to squeeze out consent. I think that not only he, to put it mildly, doubted. It's like a "consensus" in the EU. A bunch of opponents, but vote unanimously. The vertical, built by cowboys, works properly there.
  5. Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich 2 October 2022 22: 17
    +3
    I would like to add that I am pleased with another short-sightedness of the United States. All our branches of gas pipelines and oil pipelines are nothing more than support (or rather the basis) for the life of the EU, and hence NATO. France and Germany are the main donors. Now the production of these countries is either closed or transferred to other countries. Accordingly, taxes go to these countries. Funding for the poor Bulgarians, Poles, Balts, etc., will first decrease, and then stop altogether. This hastily slapped-up community would have collapsed without it, but now sabotage on gas pipelines will serve as a catalyst for collapse .. All EU member states, under pressure from the United States, have ruined their production (the exception is Germany, France and partially Hungary). The basis (glue) of this community is a simple word - Freebie, mini communism. And where to get this freebie in the future? The main production has evaporated, the sales market (just huge in Russia) is lost. The United States is used to dragging it to itself, and they definitely won’t feed such a pack of idlers. Of course, the bases will remain, but there won’t be popular support as before. All current EU leaders will successfully roll back to the states, out of harm’s way. Cultural people will call me a science fiction writer, others a liar. But in my defense I will cite - Britain. Hastily left the EU. Compared to Britain - the USA is just a jock (bodybuilder), it was Britain that carried the main evil to the world, a country that practically knows no defeats, neither in politics, nor in wars. I am sure a lot that now what is going on in the world is calculated by them, and much is arranged, and in long combinations.
    1. VlVl Offline VlVl
      VlVl (VladVlad) 3 October 2022 14: 16
      0
      Hungary has already forgotten about its own. The Austrians are still holding production.-))
  6. Oleg_5 Offline Oleg_5
    Oleg_5 (Oleg) 2 October 2022 22: 38
    +1
    I heard the opinion that it was a kind of "exchange".
    For the duration of the referendums (for 5 days), the United States stopped providing target designations for firing at civilians (and in reality there were no monstrous shellings, especially on the last day of voting, when people reached out to the polling stations).
    And we, in turn, turned a blind eye to what they had long wanted to do with streams.
    At us, as a matter of fact, the first paid off many times over. The second paid off thanks to prices (even before starting to work).
    Now both were idle. The second is due to the fact that the Germans froze it forever, the first because of the situation with the turbines.
    Europe, by all its actions, makes it clear that gas cooperation is terminated in principle - so much the worse for them (the realization will come there a little later).
    We haven't really lost anything in this situation.
  7. Azvozdam Offline Azvozdam
    Azvozdam (Azvozdam) 2 October 2022 22: 45
    +2
    There is! There is such an ass! In Russia, and the Yankees are pumping Ukraine into the most (or most?) In general, it won’t seem enough. Russia, you see, has a complex of the poor. He always makes excuses, and Putin constantly threatens, as cowardly creatures usually do. A real man warned once and that's it, period. Further to destruction! If he doesn’t want curses to fall on him soon! And this is already ripening. Kadyrov said correctly, he’s not capable, step back, don’t interfere with the professionals’ work. And yet, If there is no SMERSH, there will be no Victory. the enemy is dangerous, which is in front, and the one behind.
  8. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Leopold) 2 October 2022 22: 55
    0
    Quote: Oleg_5
    … We haven't really lost anything in this situation.

    How to say. Novak is already talking on camera about the possibilities of repairing the Nord Streams. It looks like another dance on a rake is coming (
    1. Oleg_5 Offline Oleg_5
      Oleg_5 (Oleg) 2 October 2022 23: 13
      +2
      Well, of course, he will talk like that. Especially on camera.
      In reality, no one will ever undertake these repairs without at least partial lifting of sanctions. Nobody and nothing. And the sanctions will not be lifted.
      And if time runs out, then repairs will not be required. The salty water inside the pipes will do the trick.
      So most likely - in the scrap.
      1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
        Volkonsky (Vladimir) 2 October 2022 23: 58
        0
        no need to be smart about those issues that you don’t understand - SP-1 and SP-2 are subject to repair, which can take 2-3 months, the main thing is to get approval for it. And about how salty sea water will corrode the walls of a 10-mm pipe coated on the inside with a special anti-corrosion compound, it’s better to ask the experts who do this. The pipe laid in the water during laying was also filled with sea water, didn’t you think about it? So what? What didn't rot? When the gas pipeline is launched, a special composition is run through it, which cleans the corrosion that has arisen, and then, the pipe is under pressure, water does not enter further than 100 meters - the laws of physics, this is how all medical operating rooms are arranged, inside the air pressure is higher than outside. The task of the Germans is to give, for their part, a reverse gas reversal in order to save their section of the pipe from corrosion. Nothing will happen to the pipe in a month or two or three. Andestend?
  9. viktor goblin Offline viktor goblin
    viktor goblin (viktor goblin) 3 October 2022 00: 05
    +1
    I repeat: the system needs to be changed! Rotten one.
  10. Edvid Offline Edvid
    Edvid 3 October 2022 00: 46
    +3
    Quote: Colonel Kudasov
    Quote: Oleg_5
    … We haven't really lost anything in this situation.

    How to say. Novak is already talking on camera about the possibilities of repairing the Nord Streams. It looks like another dance on a rake is coming (

    Or maybe the opinion is correct that gas pipeline explosions are revenge for the burnt LNG plants in the USA: https://smart-lab.ru/blog/842118.php
  11. Avarron Offline Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) 3 October 2022 04: 33
    +1
    Right now for the benefits of destroying threads.
    Well, actually, given the exorbitant cost of LNG, it would not be profitable for Russia to drive pipeline gas for a penny when LNG plants have already been built in Yamal. It is more profitable to liquefy and push with gas carriers, I think. This time.
    China, seeing Russia deprived of its European sales market, is unlikely to miss the chance to negotiate additional discounts for itself, and these are billions and billions. This is two.
    The long tongue of the self-propelled grandfather, who announced that the SP-2 would not be, greatly simplifies the transfer of arrows to the United States, now even in the eyes of Europeans the culprit is obvious, which sows confusion and vacillation in Europe, drives a wedge between the Franco-Germans and Anglo-Saxons. Who benefits? It's three.
    Only the lazy did not talk about the benefits of the USA, Poland, Ukraine and Norway. This is four.
    In general, everyone is fine, except for the old woman of Europe, who was pulled together by the whole world.
    1. GIS Offline GIS
      GIS (Ildus) 3 October 2022 09: 09
      0
      and in the short term, we are threatened by the fact that:
      1. the impoverishment of Europe as the closest bargaining partner, and hence the narrowing of the sales market for us (we basically drove raw materials there - you can convince them, but not with Manturov’s statistics)
      2.european quality - that will be a thing of the past now - nothing else shipped from china, to my regret didn't last as long as "made in EU"
      3. The impoverished Europeans will not be able to hold their EU together for a long time and there will be confusion and vacillation, up to armed riots - "chips" from this action will fly to us. do we need it?
      4. ultra right-wing nationalists may come, who can send the "boiling masses of those left without subsidies" to the east, i.e. on us (for food, for water outside the territory) - and without mobilizing by force. but by offering work and food for service in the ranks of the EU army

      unrealistic you say ... hmmm my fear has big eyes
  12. Ivan Ivanych 68743684 (Sergei) 3 October 2022 09: 41
    +1
    all that remains for us is to express profound concern, because our current government is not able to solve any of the most acute problems, all the years they only lied to us that almost everything is fine with us, and with the stubbornness of a maniac they continued to build an offshore economy, now it all collapsed, and all of today's power has been paralyzed, some recent events in the zone of the NWO (war) are worth what, put so many of our soldiers and immediately after the referendum give the Russian city, with the Russian population, to be torn to pieces, our rapporteurs at least understand what these fascists will do with them now?
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 3 October 2022 09: 55
      -3
      Ivan Ivanovich, stupid, where did you see the paralyzed power? laughing
  13. Jstas Offline Jstas
    Jstas (jstas) 3 October 2022 12: 09
    0
    150000 Jews were in Hitler's army. After 45 they became victims of fascism. Germany still pays reparations to Israel.
    With the destruction of JV 1 and 2, the importance of Israeli gas production in the Mediterranean increases.
    And in the eyes of the world community, the United States, Sweden, Poland were appointed guilty of the explosions, Jewish banders from Israel ...
  14. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 3 October 2022 12: 28
    0
    For all his old age, grandfather Joe does not suffer from impotence, unlike the Kremlin youth.
  15. Muscool Offline Muscool
    Muscool (Glory) 3 October 2022 12: 32
    +1
    Putin will wipe himself out after the explosions of gas pipelines, and we, ordinary citizens, don't give a damn about shit. Which is actually already happening.
  16. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
    Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 3 October 2022 14: 34
    +3
    Author, I'm sorry.
    Why waste paper and readers' time on today's thoughts that are far from the real situation and comparing them with their own last year's, just as far away ..?
    The only conclusion available to everyone is that EVERYTHING is possible (since on both sides the supreme ones are peculiar personalities, and who is there for the grandfather - HZ, but the unknown characters with the button are even worse than just a crazy old man)!
    But ours are populists, eager to be at the feeder forever, so they are dragging on until it gets too late.
    There will be no gain for us without cleaning the power
  17. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
    Vox_Populi (vox populi) 3 October 2022 20: 25
    0
    Remember how much effort we put in, how many copies we broke, laying this fucking SP-2, which cost Gazprom 9,5 billion euros (half with European partners).

    Not the fact that in half (it was reported about our greater contribution). Do not forget also about the extremely high costs during the construction of the ground part of SP-2 on Russian territory...
  18. usm5 Offline usm5
    usm5 (George) 3 October 2022 23: 16
    0
    Dear adults, we must already understand that in human civilization there will never be "dribbling" justice. A society can only be efficient or inefficient from an economic point of view. It is effective when its productive forces are managed by talented people (a mechanism for selecting these people has been created), and the rest of the less talented people do not live in poverty. There has never been such a society in our country. In the USSR of recent years, property formally belonged to the state (the people), but in fact the party officials managed it for the benefit of themselves (their relatives) and so inefficiently that during the collapse of the country no one went to the barricades in its defense. Now property in Russia belongs to private clans and government officials. Moreover, the latter can return it to the bosom of the state without any problems. Will we benefit from this? Probably not. As for wasted money, look at yourself. Have you spent your mind? In hindsight, we are all smart. All these mistakes are explained primarily by the desire to get away from the confrontational model of development. As for the indecisiveness of the leadership of the Russian Federation, it is unlikely that any of you would be decisive, imagining in detail the world after such a thermonuclear war (even if Russia wins it). All this SVO is aimed not so much at the outside world as at the cleansing of the country. And already so much shit has come out that you can easily choke on it. So do not drive "horses", take care of your psyche - you still have time to die in nuclear hell.
  19. Andrey2023 Offline Andrey2023
    Andrey2023 (Andrei) 4 October 2022 08: 17
    -1
    Here they write about the 14th year, they say it was necessary to be tougher.
    And who remembers about Belarus?
    What would Lukashenka say in 14?
    And how would the Belarusian Maidan end?
    And this is just one example.
  20. Down Offline Down
    Down (Etwas) 4 October 2022 16: 46
    0
    A strange article, such as a gas pipeline explosion, is something that will backfire. Maybe the whole policy of the state under the bourgeoisie, aimed at enriching a handful of nouveaux riches to the detriment of everything, the state, the army, the middle class, industry, etc. and there are consequences, but the gas pipeline is a small episode. It was said, "The results of privatization will not be reviewed", that's all, the complete separation of the lower classes from the upper classes, but I remember in 1917, when the lower classes did not want, but the upper classes could not, an unpleasant event occurred for the ruling class far from the people. There were wars there too, and as a result they were all lost, for one reason, they were alien to the people, and the bourgeois elite were impotent, they still make money at private Kalashnikov factories and not only.
  21. Down Offline Down
    Down (Etwas) 4 October 2022 16: 54
    0
    Quote from usm5
    As for the indecision of the leadership of the Russian Federation, it is unlikely that any of you would be decisive, representing in detail the world after such a thermonuclear war (even if Russia wins it)

    And where does the thermonuclear war, the thesis "If you want peace, prepare for war", speaks of someone who, to the detriment of much, thought only about himself or not only about himself, but was so stupid that he did not see the obvious, this is indecision and stupidity or for you, "If you want peace, prepare for war" is something new that needs clarification.
  22. Down Offline Down
    Down (Etwas) 4 October 2022 17: 02
    -1
    Quote: GIS
    unrealistic you say ... hmmm my fear has big eyes

    Everything is correct, but there is an old joke that ends with the words - "you need to think about the house, about the house"
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