“We did it”: Americans about the attack on Nord Stream


American readers of the web version of the Forbes business publication commented on the possible involvement of their country's authorities in sabotage of the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines.


Former Polish Defense Minister Radek Sikorski credited the United States with sabotaging the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines, which carry natural gas from Russia to Germany.

"Thank you USA"

Sikorsky wrote on his own Twitter account.

Sikorsky was Minister of National Defense from 2005 to 2007, and previously served as Deputy Minister of National Defense and Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs. He is currently an elected member of the European Parliament.

The current head of the Polish Foreign Ministry, Stanislav Zharin, called Sikorsky's statement on Twitter "Russian propaganda", "a smear campaign directed against Poland, the United States and Ukraine."

The original publication was published under the headline “US Blew Up Russian Gas Pipelines Nord Stream 1 & 2, Says Former Polish Defense Minister,” said the former Minister of Defense of Poland.

Reader comments (selectively):

Russia could simply turn the valve if it wanted to stop the flow of gas to Europe without losing leverage for further negotiations. Why would they damage their own pipeline if they control the supply from their side?

- Guest1 is surprised.

As a veteran of the US military, I'm leaning towards yes, we did it. The United States sometimes does worse things: we kill leaders, we bomb entire countries to force them into submission, we install puppet governments and push other states into war. I don't like what the US/CIA/State Department is doing to other countries to force them into submission...

– writes reader Major TJ.

I think it's funny how the CIA framed Germany. I also find it funny how cleverly, after Trump's victory, "intelligence officials" claimed that Russia interfered in the elections. Or how, when Wikileaks released the Democrats' emails, "intelligence officials" also claimed that Assange was paid...

writes abolish cia.

Well written. The logic here points to who exactly committed this sabotage. It's just a shame that the country (and this is by no means Russia, by the way) will not dare to admit to what has been done, as always before

says a reader with the nickname Sayit.

Vote to remove Democrats from power [in the United States]! They will stop at nothing, including destroying the pipeline, in order to win!

- writes jk.
  • Photos used: Nord Stream 2 / Axel Schmidt
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  1. Hiker Offline Hiker
    Hiker (Dmitriy) 28 September 2022 13: 09
    +7
    NATO military attack on Russia's strategic infrastructure. Maybe Musk's satellites will stop flying in herds over Russia?
    1. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
      Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 29 September 2022 00: 23
      -1
      Secretly or openly - there is nothing to bring them down.
      Why the Tsrushnikov did not start shooting is not clear ..
      1. Sidor Bodrov Offline Sidor Bodrov
        Sidor Bodrov 29 September 2022 09: 47
        +2
        Hello, nothing? Demonstrated already the other day - live. And later, laser weapons were pulled up. In six seconds, we will kill the entire GePeS.
        1. skeptic Offline skeptic
          skeptic 29 September 2022 20: 09
          +1
          Quote: Sidor Bodrov
          In six seconds, we will kill the entire GePeS.

          But what about the kids in the West? belay
        2. DeGreen Offline DeGreen
          DeGreen 29 September 2022 23: 55
          0
          Don't argue with him. This is ukrobot
        3. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
          Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 30 September 2022 00: 35
          +1
          Shoot down Musk's microsatellites with missile defense missiles (and this is "Nudol" around Moscow and S-500, which has not yet been on duty), each of which is an order of magnitude more expensive than the target ..? With NASA's precise definition of the launch site and the de facto casus belli..? Isn't it a stupid way to get up to your neck in shit?
          If you want to shoot down satellites, then you can leave no traces with the help of electronic warfare or a laser. There are other ways and without attacks on their civilian facilities - US military bases in the world under 1000 pieces. There are a lot of goals, and those who want it too. They just need to be helped to choose the time, object, method and weapon ("handicraft" drone ..?). And sooner or later this will happen when our political leadership stops chewing on a viscous substance.
  2. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 28 September 2022 13: 12
    +8
    possible involvement of the authorities of their country in sabotage on the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines

    The word "sabotage" cuts the ear. Not in vain did Blinken use it. A clear terrorist act is now called sabotage?
    When they write "sabotage" they mean that Russia is sabotaging. But if you write a terrorist act, then you need to look for customers and performers.
    Has anyone heard that the events of 9-11 in the States were called sabotage?
    So there is no need to repeat the American lies on the Russian resource.
    1. GIS Offline GIS
      GIS (Ildus) 28 September 2022 13: 21
      +1
      as far as I remember, the translation of sabotage is sabotage.
      not?
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 28 September 2022 13: 52
        +3
        Sabotage (fr. sabotage from saboter - “knock with a shoe”) - intentional non-performance or negligent performance of certain duties, hidden opposition to the implementation of something. The most common etymology of the word comes from the French sabot - a wooden shoe that could block the work of looms.
    2. Avarron Offline Avarron
      Avarron (Sergei) 28 September 2022 15: 34
      -4
      A terrorist act is aimed at intimidating the population. How can the explosion of an underwater gas pipeline be an act of intimidation? Whereas a violation of the normal operation of something, sabotage, this is sabotage.
      1. Valentine Offline Valentine
        Valentine (Valentin) 28 September 2022 16: 25
        +3
        Quote: Avarron
        A terrorist act is aimed at intimidating the population. How can the explosion of an underwater gas pipeline be an act of intimidation?

        So you ask the local population about this before the imminent winter cold.
    3. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 29 September 2022 20: 11
      0
      Quote: Bakht
      When they write "sabotage" they mean that Russia is sabotaging.

      +++++ They work for the subconscious - who can "sabotage" gas supplies if not a supplier? And the United States, as the organizer of the terrorist attacks, seems to have nothing to do with it. .
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 29 September 2022 20: 57
        +1
        In the US, Blinken explicitly states that this is "an act of sabotage by Russia."
        Von der Leyen said she had already discussed the "act of sabotage" with Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen. The head of the European Commission called for an investigation into the incidents in order to obtain complete clarity about the events and the reasons for what happened.
        The head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, after the emergency on the Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines, threatened to respond to the "deliberate violation" of the European energy infrastructure. However, she did not specify to whom.

        So the use of the term "sabotage" is clearly not an accident.
  3. Avedi Offline Avedi
    Avedi (Ankh) 28 September 2022 13: 20
    +5
    The question is, how is our gas still flowing through the territory of Urkaina?
  4. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 28 September 2022 13: 33
    +3
    Why didn’t the Russian Federation send a hydrographic or oceanographic vessel with powerful sonar equipment to the Nord Stream blast zone? This is an economic zone and it is not forbidden to watch, observe there. High-frequency sonar at depths of 200 m will give a clear image of a collapsed pipe with a gas fountain. 51% belongs to the Russian Federation and now there is a question of repair. When Germany starts buying pipeline gas from the Russian Federation, there is no need to consider tomorrow or in 2024 now. The Russian Federation together with the Federal Republic of Germany should decide what to do with the Nord Stream? Repair or dismantle?
    1. Ildar Galin Offline Ildar Galin
      Ildar Galin (Ildar Galin) 29 September 2022 14: 27
      0
      As long as there is gas from the bottom, any ship in the area can sink. Over damage, the more 200 percent.
      1. boriz Online boriz
        boriz (boriz) 29 September 2022 21: 56
        0
        They closed the swimming area and you can’t even fly below a certain height. If it explodes, no atomic bomb is needed.
  5. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 28 September 2022 14: 45
    +1
    However, they like to ascribe to themselves other people's merits.
    The Ukrainians blew it up with the assistance of the Poles, and the USA could not be unaware and did not lift a finger to prevent this. the interests of all coincide:
    Ukraine is at war with the Russian Federation and is ready for any action, incl. to undermine the Nord and Turkish Stream in order to increase the value of their own and dictate the terms of the Russian Federation.
    Poland built a pipeline from Norway, concluded an agreement with the United States and S. Arabia - she does not need the Russian one and she blocked it, creating problems for her sworn friend - the Germans along the way.
    The EU is the largest consumer and the US is pushing its own LNG, and in order to conquer the market, it is necessary to cut off the oxygen of the Russian Federation, they did it by proxy and got political and economic dividends from this
    1. Valentine Offline Valentine
      Valentine (Valentin) 28 September 2022 16: 32
      +4
      Maybe so, it will happen to them, but at the same time, at the same place, the Yankees were organizing some kind of their exercises with large landing ships and helicopters, which was reported by the Scandinavian media.
      1. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
        Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 28 September 2022 23: 23
        0
        As a cover, to divert attention
    2. Sidor Bodrov Offline Sidor Bodrov
      Sidor Bodrov 29 September 2022 10: 03
      +2
      Poles, Khakhly, small-shaven - does not affect the value. The main manager is the hegemon. In no way will Europe blow through that this "partner" of theirs is not real - fake. Here the unwashed will freeze in the winter and drive all these decoy fonderlyalek and barrels with scholz.
  6. nikanikolich Offline nikanikolich
    nikanikolich (nikola) 28 September 2022 15: 03
    +13
    The United States is a terrorist country, a cancerous tumor of the planet. As doctors say - you need to get rid of the source of inflammation of the disease
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  7. zzdimk Offline zzdimk
    zzdimk 28 September 2022 15: 10
    +7
    Maybe it's time to clean up the north of Syria from oil-sucking bugs?
    1. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 28 September 2022 18: 51
      +4
      This is just the case and it is possible. Then you can write that the Americans made a mistake and blew up their oil rigs.
      1. Balin Offline Balin
        Balin 28 September 2022 22: 18
        0
        a week ago there was an explosion
  8. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 29 September 2022 00: 46
    +1
    This diversion smells of very big politics. SP-1 - two threads (pipeline); SP-2 - two threads, 4 in total. SP-1 blew up two threads, SP-2 - one thread. There was one working thread SP-2. SP-2 does not have a certificate. The combined capacity of the two lines of Nord Stream 2 is 55 billion cubic meters. m of gas per year. One live string of SP-2 is 27,5 billion cubic meters. m of gas per year. All threads are close. Why did they leave one thread intact at SP-2 ??? If it gets very, very bad in Germany, then it can ask Russia to start pumping gas through the working line of the SP-2, the decision on pumping will be made by Russia. It will take about 1,5-3 years to restore, repair the threads, if they agree.
    1. Sidor Bodrov Offline Sidor Bodrov
      Sidor Bodrov 29 September 2022 10: 07
      +2
      Duc, Sweden has discovered the fourth explosion.
  9. Alexfly Offline Alexfly
    Alexfly (Alexander) 29 September 2022 14: 15
    +1
    A few days ago I saw on Flightradar24 in the area of ​​the Baltic Sea, just somewhere in the area, although it is difficult to say that it was at the place of the breaks, that the US Navy helicopter was barrage - it was a Black Hawk Sea Stryke helicopter.. Coincidence? I was also surprised why it would be .. Although in Poland they fly much more often .. And in Romania and over the Black Sea they generally hang all the time ..
  10. usm5 Offline usm5
    usm5 (George) 29 September 2022 15: 49
    +2
    What is incomprehensible here - the Americans and the British did it. The war on the doorstep is just the beginning. In order to avoid a full-scale nuclear conflict, it is necessary as a response to quickly destroy the NATO space group, the transatlantic cable and the Polish-Norwegian gas pipeline. If they continue to rock the boat (blinded and deafened), then apart from a massive thermonuclear strike on NATO countries, there is no longer any way out so that at least someone can survive.
  11. arrogant Saxons cheered up - this is their style!