An unknown device caught off the coast of Crimea poses a great danger to the Black Sea Fleet

On September 21, a marine drone of unknown design washed up on the coast near Sevastopol. Some time later, in the water area near the city and the largest base of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy, another surface unmanned vehicle was discovered and destroyed.

The drone, which ended up in the hands of the Russian military, outwardly seems to be relatively intact and quite an interesting object for study by the relevant specialists. It should be noted that back in April, the United States promised to transfer to Ukraine various multi-purpose stealth unmanned surface vehicles for testing in combat conditions against Russia. Media reports appeared in May that Ukrainian operators had already been trained at the Joint Expeditionary US Naval Base Little Creek, an amphibious force facility of the former US Atlantic Fleet.

Such compact stealth boats, called tactical autonomous systems (Man-Portable Tactical Autonomous Systems - MANTAS), can be used both for collecting information, reconnaissance, surveillance and target designation, and for carrying out strike missions, turning into kamikaze drones. Designs are different, from the usual with a traditional hull to a catamaran type, depending on the preferences of the developer and customer of the product. The United States has already begun to use similar means to patrol the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf, and, according to American admirals, MANTAS will perform combat missions around the world.

Without a doubt, the apparatus caught off the coast of Crimea posed a great danger to ships and vessels of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy and civilian shipping, since its approach is difficult to notice. According to their performance characteristics, the devices also differ, but on average their length is 3,5-4 meters, the width does not exceed 1 meter, the height is less than 0,5 meters, and the draft is 0,25 meters. The total mass of the device can be 100 kg, while the payload can exceed 60 kg, which is enough to cause serious damage even to a large ship or vessel, given that the explosion will be carried out at the waterline level - the area where the water surface contacts the hull.
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  1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
    sgrabik (Sergei) 22 September 2022 14: 56
    We need to study these naval drones and develop a methodology for dealing with them, as well as create and start supplying our own similar devices to our army.
    1. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 22 September 2022 21: 47
      Quote: sgrabik
      It is necessary to study these marine drones and develop a methodology for dealing with them.

      Interesting - does electronic warfare affect them? Most likely, as in the UAV. Only the signal will have to be transmitted under water.
      1. Opozdavshiy Offline Opozdavshiy
        Opozdavshiy (Sergei) 1 October 2022 12: 42
        Judging by the starlink antenna, these drones are controlled via satellite channels. Because electronic warfare there can only be burning electronics. Apparently, it was precisely such an impact that led the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the loss of this drone - the electronics were completely burned on it. Otherwise, it would have already self-destructed.
    2. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 23 September 2022 10: 43
      Yes, it’s easier than ever to launch an unmanned underwater vehicle with periscope depth. and through the periscope and keep in touch. At certain moments, submerge for a while and set the route. This is purely technical work for senior students of shipbuilding institutes. It is possible to produce at the level of a coursework or a thesis. Why this has not yet been done is a mystery. Maybe the leadership of universities is not interested? Or maybe, as usual, there is no money for the development of promising developments.
    3. DeGreen Offline DeGreen
      DeGreen 23 September 2022 12: 54
      During World War II, the allies stupidly set up nets from kamikaze torpedoes
  2. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 22 September 2022 15: 22
    Quote: sgrabik
    We need to study these naval drones and develop a methodology for dealing with them, as well as create and start supplying our own similar devices to our army.

    Protection against floating debris has been around for a long time. Boom barriers, nets, with elevation above the water, and mining of these devices. Small mines, harmful only to these pelvises.
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 22 September 2022 17: 34
      (Victor) Such protection methods are expensive and outdated, there are more modern and less expensive ones. Work on aquatic drones has been going on for a long time and there are already quite a few working production models from the United States, Israel, etc. The Russian Federation, as always, lags behind in drones, with the exception of strategic ones. That this sample came to visit, a nice gift, they’ll see, what interesting things can be found ... There is a world rearmament for unmanned, unmanned autonomous vehicles, the race is very important, whoever is behind lost the war in the literal sense.
      1. Stefanych Offline Stefanych
        Stefanych (Valery Goncharov) 29 September 2022 05: 29
        Our mistake is that we had to start the SVO from our military-industrial complex. It seems to me that those "responsible" for the military-industrial complex in the reports, to put it mildly, were cunning, and the numbers on the commander's desk had to be divided by 2, or even more.
  3. AndretzAndrey Offline AndretzAndrey
    AndretzAndrey (Andrei) 22 September 2022 18: 32
    Interestingly, did the cruiser "Moskva" blow up like that?
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 22 September 2022 22: 03
      (Andrey) Two Ukrainian coastal anti-ship missiles "Neptune" worked on "Moscow" on a tip from American satellites. This sample is too small for a sufficient warhead, (it has up to 60kg) it is more reconnaissance, but there are also larger ones with an impressive warhead.
      1. AndretzAndrey Offline AndretzAndrey
        AndretzAndrey (Andrei) 23 September 2022 00: 12
        You are logical in general, but:
        Regarding RCC - this is a version. They are officially silent. But what about his air defense? Dead mean? So our "Atlantes" are a piece of metal?
        And we don’t know the size of the unmanned aerial vehicle thrown ashore, there is nothing there for scale, it can be 3 m and 15.
        Let it be your way, thanks for the answer
        1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 23 September 2022 11: 14
          Replica. Because the RF Ministry of Defense is silent that the Americans caught "Moscow", the air defense did not work during the arrival, it seems that the existing outdated radars did not catch too low-flying targets (1-2 meters from the surface of the water), or something else, but the air defense did not work.
      2. Just Olya_2 Offline Just Olya_2
        Just Olya_2 (Just Olya) 23 September 2022 06: 05
        there the bolta flew 11 meters
        07 meters in diameter
      3. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
        sH, arK 27 September 2022 09: 28
        At the very least, this is a very controversial statement. Extremely unlikely.
    2. Just Olya_2 Offline Just Olya_2
      Just Olya_2 (Just Olya) 23 September 2022 06: 04
      is there a video
  4. Sancym Offline Sancym
    Sancym (Alexander ) 23 September 2022 10: 04
    You, respected nameless author of this story, are a great dreamer!
  5. viktor goblin Offline viktor goblin
    viktor goblin (viktor goblin) 23 September 2022 11: 31
    Suppliers remain unpunished . Further - worse .. What are we waiting for, sir?
  6. isofat Offline isofat
    isofat (isofat) 23 September 2022 12: 16
    The device is unknown, the design is unknown ... the danger to the Black Sea Fleet is known. She's big! laughing
  7. nikanikolich Offline nikanikolich
    nikanikolich (nikola) 23 September 2022 19: 37
    it's time for the GRU think tank to turn on its brains. And there, I think not fools work.
  8. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Leopold) 24 September 2022 05: 56
    Such a bandura can be put on the Crimean bridge
  9. Velmi Shin Offline Velmi Shin
    Velmi Shin (Velmi Shin) 26 September 2022 14: 15
    EW installations of the Russian Federation showed themselves poorly in the NWO. Therefore, large losses of l / s and equipment. Under drones of all types, it is also necessary to adjust the frequencies and methods of EW radiation. And of course, the modern war-war of robots needs to be developed and produced many and different types and purposes - land, sea, air, space and even underwater. To do this, the country's funds should not be stolen and transferred abroad to accounts, but used for development and production. I agree that now, due to the backlog, it is necessary to buy the best samples from abroad. And for this, money, currency and brains are again needed, how to make purchases under sanctions. Otherwise, why all these offshore companies of Russian officials and oligarchs. It's time for them to work for the country, not all the time only to steal and export. Otherwise, nothing will work, as it is now.
  10. And W2 Offline And W2
    And W2 (And W2) 27 September 2022 05: 09
    Defensive war is the path to defeat. There were allegations that the drones led to the defeat in the Bekaa Valley, which was the reason or one of the main reasons for the collapse of the USSR.
    We are fighting to stop the killing and bombing of children and civilians (NVO), you (NATO, USA, Urkaina) are fighting to continue killing and so on.
  11. Pilot Offline Pilot
    Pilot (Pilot) 2 October 2022 16: 43
    We need to study these marine drones and develop a methodology for dealing with them, as well as create and start supplying our own similar devices to our army ...... We have already studied the UAVs, the plant was opened, studied for many years and Chinese and Iranian ones fly. The war has come and everyone is tired.