Kyiv asks the US to protect them from Iranian drones: they are becoming a problem


It will be difficult for Ukraine to counter the drones from Iran used by Russia. During the ongoing conflict over the past week, the RF Armed Forces have begun to actively use Iranian kamikaze UAVs (loitering ammunition) of the Shahed-136 type, repainted to match Russian color schemes (M214 Geran-2), against the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The American edition of The Wall Street Journal writes about this, citing Ukrainian sources and experts from the United States.


The publication notes that the mentioned drones were often noticed over the positions of the Ukrainian army in the Kharkiv region. At the same time, the Ukrainian military complains about the losses caused by drones. Kyiv admits that these drones, which hunt for various weapons systems and fly at low altitude, are becoming a real problem because they are difficult to detect. Therefore, the Ukrainians are asking the United States to protect them from this scourge by providing some equipment for countermeasures.

They claim that only in the zone of responsibility of the 92nd separate mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as a result of drone attacks, in recent days, 2 units of self-propelled howitzers of 155-mm caliber, 2 self-propelled guns of 122-mm caliber, 2 armored personnel carriers and a towed howitzer M777 of 155-mm caliber have been destroyed. . But, if there are problems with the transfer of equipment to counter such drones, then Ukraine's Western partners could try to disrupt further deliveries of UAVs from Iran to the Russian Federation.

The appearance of Shahed-136 in the war in Ukraine undoubtedly changes the operational plans of Kyiv

weapons expert Scott Crino told the publication.

We remind you that September 13 появились the first confirmation of the use of these drones by Russia in Ukraine in the course of a special operation.
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  1. Irek Offline Irek
    Irek (Paparazzi Kazan) 18 September 2022 09: 42
    +2
    A nation of beggars and degenerates.
    1. Sasha Anatolyevich (Sasha Anatolyevich) 18 September 2022 10: 41
      -4
      Do not spit in the well!
      - Firstly, "we are one people";
      - Secondly, whose drones?
      Do not thank.
      1. passing by Offline passing by
        passing by (passing by) 18 September 2022 11: 22
        +3
        if you personally, in terms of mentality and the number of convolutions, are similar to opanas parasyuk, then you speak for yourself, and not for all of Russia.
    2. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
      Vox_Populi (vox populi) 18 September 2022 11: 26
      0
      A nation of beggars and degenerates.

      Neo-Nazi or "just" a chauvinist?!
  2. zuuukoo Offline zuuukoo
    zuuukoo (Sergei) 18 September 2022 10: 28
    -5
    Quote: Irek
    A nation of beggars and degenerates.

    As for the beggars, I agree - in the UAVs they managed not only to lag behind the flagships in the form of the United States, but even from Iran and Turkey. So we are running around with pleas to sell copters and drones. China refused, but they still begged Iran.
    And as for the degenerates, it's still too much.
    1. Dust Offline Dust
      Dust (Sergei) 19 September 2022 19: 42
      -1
      But it was not necessary, by pull, to make Serdyukov the Minister of Defense! After all, he refused to invest in UAVs, he believed that it was unnecessary ...
      1. Midshipman Offline Midshipman
        Midshipman (Sergei) 22 September 2022 19: 30
        0
        Get off Serdyukov, he did his job well, although with your straightforward thinking, the campaign cannot understand this
  3. shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) 18 September 2022 10: 42
    +4
    Drone-kamikaze, high-precision weapons for "lightweight". Yes, there is a shortage. But if you can buy, why is there such pessimism among commentators? And actually, what's the difference from whom we buy?
    1. Sasha Anatolyevich (Sasha Anatolyevich) 18 September 2022 11: 07
      -2
      that's not what it's about, mind you
    2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 18 September 2022 11: 11
      +3
      We must not beg, but as quickly as possible master the mass production of our UAVs and attack unmanned systems, it is simply inappropriate to raise the issue of profit or profitability here, in matters of national security there are no such concepts as profitable or not. Remember how it was during the Great Patriotic War.
      1. Luca Chrome Offline Luca Chrome
        Luca Chrome (Peter) 19 September 2022 02: 05
        -1
        So learn, produce! We have a democracy! Collect the most "smart couch engineers" right from here, from the site. You are all so smart and unique here! That you should set up the production of some kind of lousy drones! Bullshit though). At the same time, put everyone to shame and declare yourself as not about network barkers. Or what?)
  4. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
    Paul3390 (Paul) 18 September 2022 11: 12
    +4
    In general, I don’t really understand the topic with UAVs .. We clearly know how to make gliders - we rivet planes, and not bad ones. There shouldn’t be any problems with engines either - is the Russian Federation clearly able to make a piston engine? With guidance systems - well, since you already have your own high-precision, it’s probably not difficult to make a head for an UAV? So what's the deal then? Why don't we have them?
    1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 18 September 2022 11: 14
      +6
      This question needs to be asked to our military-industrial complex and the Ministry of Defense.
      1. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 19 September 2022 15: 45
        +1
        Last name, first name and patronymic. Responsible for the UAV in the military-industrial complex and mo. soldier
    2. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
      Vox_Populi (vox populi) 18 September 2022 11: 25
      -6
      There shouldn’t be any problems with engines either - is the Russian Federation clearly able to make a piston engine?

      This is a whole problem, like special optics with electronics.
    3. Bobik012 Offline Bobik012
      Bobik012 (Vladimir) 18 September 2022 13: 07
      -3
      In general, I don’t really understand the topic with UAVs

      There are no UAVs, only the topic
      And if they are really necessary, I don’t understand why not buy ready-made ones? Mastering the production will be more expensive. Whatever they say, yesterday (the sad example of bayraktars is very clear), why spend money? Bought, applied, looked at the result. It will be positive (sometimes simplicity is ingenious, a mortar, for example) - you can also cut down your own.
    4. Dust Offline Dust
      Dust (Sergei) 19 September 2022 19: 38
      0
      Lots of thieves...
    5. Dima Offline Dima
      Dima (Dmitriy) 19 September 2022 23: 25
      0
      It is impossible to embrace the immensity. There is not a single country in the world capable of independently producing the entire range of weapons. Even the United States does not hesitate to purchase air defense technology from Israel. It's a question of priorities.
  5. zuuukoo Offline zuuukoo
    zuuukoo (Sergei) 18 September 2022 11: 26
    +2
    Quote from Paul3390
    There shouldn’t be any problems with engines either - is the Russian Federation clearly able to make a piston engine?

    They need not just a piston, but a small and light piston. And with this we have problems, judging by the same pacers.

    ZY: If you look at the domestic auto industry, then with engines there is mostly a sad misfortune.
    1. Bobik012 Offline Bobik012
      Bobik012 (Vladimir) 18 September 2022 13: 11
      0
      small and light piston

      considering that the device is disposable, a solid-fuel accelerator is quite enough. Well, in extreme cases, a two-stroke almost motor with a resource of 2 hours is also not a problem.
      1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 18 September 2022 22: 36
        +3
        These "Shaheeds" have a Wankel engine, not complicated and light, but with a small motor resource (which is enough for a one-time). , there is almost no one to produce - there are no private manufacturing enterprises, they are strangled, the rest are set up to assemble imports with a cut of the allocated funds for full manufacture, therefore there are no Pacers, Lancets and others in the necessary mass series).
        1. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 19 September 2022 15: 49
          0
          Somewhere infa slipped that almost half a thousand lancets were used in Syria. Quite mass production
        2. Dust Offline Dust
          Dust (Sergei) 19 September 2022 19: 36
          0
          Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria is not on them!
  6. Sergey Kuzmin Offline Sergey Kuzmin
    Sergey Kuzmin (Sergei) 19 September 2022 17: 34
    0
    They claim that only in the zone of responsibility of the 92nd separate mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as a result of drone attacks, in recent days, 2 units of self-propelled howitzers of 155-mm caliber, 2 self-propelled guns of 122-mm caliber, 2 armored personnel carriers and a towed howitzer M777 of 155-mm caliber have been destroyed. . But, if there are problems with the transfer of equipment to counter such drones, then Ukraine's Western partners could try to disrupt further deliveries of UAVs from Iran to the Russian Federation.

    Pleasant results ... long ago! And how will the "partners" disrupt the deliveries? Will the Caspian Sea be blocked? They don't have aircraft carriers going there ...)))
  7. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 19 September 2022 19: 33
    0
    then the Western partners of Ukraine could try to disrupt further deliveries of UAVs from Iran to the Russian Federation.

    The United States has no access to the Caspian Sea, the United States has no influence on Iran either, they agreed on supplies at the highest level ...
  8. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 19 September 2022 19: 46
    0
    It will be difficult for Ukraine to counter the drones from Iran used by Russia. During the ongoing conflict over the past week, the Russian Armed Forces began to actively use Iranian kamikaze UAVs against the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    That crests are different, winter has not yet come.
    1. Arthur b. Offline Arthur b.
      Arthur b. (Arthur Borisoglebsky) 21 September 2022 21: 43
      0
      Yes, the most interesting for dill is yet to come. Yes, and they are not persistent warriors, as soon as difficulties began, they immediately differed ...
  9. Pavel volkov Offline Pavel volkov
    Pavel volkov (Pavel Volkov) 19 September 2022 22: 11
    0
    And without the USA there is nothing?