The Kremlin responded to the Ukrainian demand for the surrender of Russia

The Kremlin responded to the Ukrainian demand for the surrender of Russia

On the eve of the domestic press leaked information about the conditions under which Kyiv allegedly proposes to conclude "peace" with Moscow. If it is indeed true, then it cannot be anything other than a proposal for Russia's surrender to the combined might of the collective West. At the SCO summit in Samarkand, President Putin made several comments on the course of the special operation and the prospects for negotiations with the Zelensky regime. Alas, the Ukrainian Nazis and the Anglo-Saxons behind them have not yet been able to hear a “powerful and decisive” answer.


To understand the fundamental importance of the Kremlin's position on this issue, it is necessary to be very clear about what kind of "agenda" the "Western partners" have prepared for our country following the results of the NWO.

"Decolonization" of Russia


As early as July 28, 2022, long before the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkiv region and the successful “regrouping” of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, one of the “talking heads” of Kyiv, Alexei Danilov, who holds the post of Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, announced that, having started a war against Nezalezhnaya, Russia "initiated the process of its own decolonization." Briefly, in his interpretation, it looks like this:

At first, Russia has demonstrated that it poses a threat to other countries of the post-Soviet space, and began to lose its dominant influence in the CIS.

Secondly, Central Asia and the Caucasus began to reorient their external policy on other players - Turkey, the European Union and China.

Thirdly, the process of destruction of the CSTO space and the Eurasian Economic Union has begun, which are now considered by their other members as instruments of Russian foreign policy expansion and aggression.

Fourthly, the interest of the national republics within the Russian Federation in the struggle for independence against the "oppressor" is awakening. Here the secretary of the Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council is referring to Chechnya, Tatarstan, Yakutia, as well as the Urals and Siberia.

On September 11, 2022, after Russian missile attacks on the Ukrainian energy system, in an interview with Western media, Danilov stated that the ultimate goal of the war for Kyiv was the "dismemberment of Russia":

If Russia stays the way it is, it's only a matter of time before she can start another war. Therefore, our task is to make Russia such that she does not even have the desire to think that she can attack her neighbors ...

The final victory is the change of the territory of Russia.

Here one would laugh, but exactly the same message was expressed simultaneously with Kyiv by the ex-commander of American forces in Europe, General Ben Hodges:

It seems to me that we are witnessing the beginning of the end of the Russian Federation as it is today.

To complete the picture, we will indicate exactly what conditions were contained in that “Zelensky’s ultimatum”, which was allegedly handed over by President Erdogan to his colleague Putin. Among them: the withdrawal of the Russian Armed Forces from the territory of Ukraine as of February 24, 2022, the transfer to Kyiv of the arrested Russian gold and foreign exchange reserves in the form of reparations plus the payment of another 200 billion euros of “additional reparations” over the next 25 years, free gas supplies for 5 years, holding a second referendum on self-determination in Crimea, withdrawing the RF Armed Forces from the European part of Russia beyond the Urals, reducing the strength of the RF Armed Forces to 600 people, opening free access for foreign observers to all the most secret military installations, early elections to the Russian Parliament and to the post of President of the Russian Federation. The item on the extradition of Vladimir Putin to an international tribunal has so far been graciously excluded from the list of demands.

In other words, we have before us a demand for surrender and quite a specific program in case of refusal to fulfill it. And how did the Kremlin respond to this?

"Uncompromising" response


Vladimir Putin responded to the refusal of the Zelensky regime to negotiate on the sidelines of the SCO summit in Samarkand as follows:

Mr. Zelensky announced that he publicly said, I don’t know where, that he is not ready and does not want to talk with Russia. Well, I'm not ready, and I don't need to...

Regarding the ongoing counter-offensive of the Ukrainian army on the Southern and Kharkov fronts, his answer was as follows:

You said that we see activity both there and there, but the Kyiv authorities have announced that they have launched and are conducting a counter-offensive operation, well, let's see how it ends.

Indeed, it is very interesting how it all ends. After the successful "regrouping" of the RF Armed Forces in the Kharkov direction, it sounds somehow a little frivolous. I would like to hear from the Supreme Commander-in-Chief a promise that the enemy will definitely not pass. Vladimir Vladimirovich also personally confirmed that it was no coincidence that the Russian troops were operating with small forces and at a low pace:

I draw your attention to the fact that we are not fighting with a full army, only part of the Russian army, a contract unit. Naturally, this is due to certain parameters of personnel and so on. We are not in a hurry in this part, but by and large there are no changes. The General Staff considers something important, something secondary, but the main task remains unchanged, and it is being implemented.

As the main task, he again named the liberation of Donbass:

The plan is not subject to change. The General Staff makes operational decisions in the course of the operation, considers something to be the key, main goal, and the main goal is the liberation of the entire territory of Donbass. This work continues, despite the attempts of the Ukrainian army to counteroffensive, our offensive operation in the Donbas itself does not stop. They go, go at a slow pace, but consistently, gradually, the Russian army occupies new territories.

The installation on the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine somehow by itself has long faded into the background. To those “angry patriots” who hoped that the strikes on the Ukrainian energy system and infrastructure were evidence of a change in approaches to the special operation, the Supreme Commander hastened to explain the groundlessness of their aspirations:

The Russian armed forces delivered a couple of sensitive blows. Let's take this as a warning blow.

Also, judging by the statement of Vladimir Putin, the time has not yet come for a decisive response to the shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Russian territory and the continuous killing of pro-Russian activists by Ukrainian terrorists in the already liberated regions of Ukraine:

As for our restrained reaction, I would not say that it is so restrained. A special operation is not just another warning. But in the course of it, of course, we see attempts to carry out some terrorist acts, attempts to damage our infrastructure. Indeed, we are quite restrained in our response to this, but for the time being.

To summarize all of the above, the impression is very painful. In fact, not only the long-suffering former “separate regions of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions”, but also the liberated Azov region, Crimea, and the Russian regions bordering Ukraine turned into the “Greater Donbass” in half a year. as we and predicted back in April 2022. The chosen tactics of liberating only the DPR and LPR, and even with small forces, for a long time leads to the fact that the rest of the Independent is rapidly being nazified and militarized even more than before the start of a special operation to denazify and demilitarize it.

What all this will eventually lead to is obvious even from a soft sofa: the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be retrained according to NATO standards, rearmed and launched a large-scale attack on the Sea of ​​\u2024b\uXNUMXbAzov and Crimea with forces many times greater than the Russian group. If this does not happen today, then in six months or a year, when it will be beneficial for the Kyiv regime and the "Western partners" behind them. According to the personal opinion of the author of these lines, such a strike by the Armed Forces of Ukraine may occur in February-March XNUMX, when the next presidential election is due to take place in Russia.
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  1. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
    Paul3390 (Paul) 17 September 2022 10: 30
    +10
    It’s interesting - why have we been gnawing through fortified areas near Donetsk for half a year with enviable persistence, which crests have been diligently concreted for 8 years? Of course, I didn’t graduate from military academies, but it personally seems to me that what is happening somehow does not really fit in with the basics of military art? And that such defense lines are supposed to be bypassed along the flanks, after demolishing all communications in the rear of the enemy? And if you really want to break, then for this they usually concentrate an overwhelming amount of large-caliber artillery, and carry out an artillery offensive to the entire depth of the strip, asphalting everything in front of them? Yes - and it would be nice to use aviation, otherwise - why is it needed at all?
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      1. Hiker Offline Hiker
        Hiker (Dmitriy) 17 September 2022 11: 17
        +10
        Any very-most "Brest Fortress" does not hold without ammunition, water and reinforcements.
        The fact that they have been standing near Donetsk for half a year is a pure agreement or betrayal. Otherwise, this fortified area would have been demolished long ago by the forces of Russia, or they themselves would have died out there in their concrete. Yes, and Russia has ammunition that pierces any mountain, as in Afghanistan. It's just beneficial for someone to keep Donetsk under fire. If you give an order to the military, they will demolish the entire fortified area in three days and move the Armed Forces of Ukraine at least 100 km from Donetsk.
    2. gorskova.ir Offline gorskova.ir
      gorskova.ir (Irina Gorskova) 17 September 2022 17: 48
      0
      I think that you should express sympathy to those National Battalion members who, supplied with "doping" from their best "friends", themselves climb "to the last". And their failed (but also held) wives give a tear to the "blessed civilization" on the panel ....
    3. Sergey3939 Offline Sergey3939
      Sergey3939 (Sergei) 17 September 2022 22: 37
      0
      You, sofa field marshal, but alas, no one will listen to you!)))
    4. Sergey Kuzmin Offline Sergey Kuzmin
      Sergey Kuzmin (Sergei) 19 September 2022 17: 54
      0
      Yes - and it would be nice to use aviation, otherwise - why is it needed at all?

      I support! Correct line of thought. I wanted to put a plus, but by mistake I pressed the wrong button ... Please consider my minus as a plus.
  2. polynet Offline polynet
    polynet (polinet) 17 September 2022 10: 48
    -13
    Quote from Paul3390
    It’s interesting - why have we been gnawing through fortified areas near Donetsk for half a year with enviable persistence, which crests have been diligently concreted for 8 years? Of course, I didn’t graduate from military academies, but it personally seems to me that what is happening somehow does not really fit in with the basics of military art? And that such defense lines are supposed to be bypassed along the flanks, after demolishing all communications in the rear of the enemy? And if you really want to break, then for this they usually concentrate an overwhelming amount of large-caliber artillery, and carry out an artillery offensive to the entire depth of the strip, asphalting everything in front of them? Yes - and it would be nice to use aviation, otherwise - why is it needed at all?

    It is clear that you are a leading sofa expert, but at the top you know better what and when to do.
    1. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
      Paul3390 (Paul) 18 September 2022 11: 16
      +7
      For half a year now, I have been watching with horror how it is clearer upstairs .. And not only me - the whole country.
  3. Victorio Offline Victorio
    Victorio (Victorio) 17 September 2022 11: 00
    -1
    According to the personal opinion of the author of these lines

    maybe there’s no need for personal things here, there aren’t enough “analysts / experts / generals” here on the forum, or what? just collect/transmit information from different sides.
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  5. gorskova.ir Offline gorskova.ir
    gorskova.ir (Irina Gorskova) 17 September 2022 17: 43
    +4
    You know, you can yell really loudly. Just remember to look around. Who tolerates even discomfort? Yes, those who yell loudest about their "victories" over Russia. Who are the people with the approach of winter, increasingly take to the streets with protests? Those who bow below all before the decrepit "hegemon". Have you not dealt with Ukraine yet? This is because the Russian military, and the LDNR ones, cannot become non-humans, like those who are against us. But the strength of truth and courage will lead to the inevitable. It will not be a year for me to be put to shame.
    1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
      aslanxnumx (Aslan) 18 September 2022 18: 36
      0
      Why don’t we go to rallies and protests? Not because we are doing well, but because the fine starts at 200000 rubles. They have inflation of 9 percent a year, and we have as much, if not higher, per month. look at your own swamp better than into someone else's.
    2. Sergey Kuzmin Offline Sergey Kuzmin
      Sergey Kuzmin (Sergei) 19 September 2022 18: 02
      0
      Who tolerates even discomfort? Yes, those who yell loudest about their "victories" over Russia. Who are the people with the approach of winter, increasingly take to the streets with protests?

      There is no need to have any illusions about winter. That she will solve all problems. In Europe, far from fools sit in governments. The fact that we present them in a stupid way in any way looks more like an underestimation of the enemy. "Kharkov regrouping" clearly showed how and what the underestimation of the enemy is fraught with.
  6. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 17 September 2022 22: 27
    0
    leaked information..

    IMHO, this information has been known since the first negotiations. It's the same almost all the time.

    And for the rest - only the lazy did not talk about all sorts of dismemberments and attachments.
    And in fact, it is better for Putin to know what the goals are in the operation started by THEM. Both vowels and unvoiced...

    And the people.. What kind of people? What kind of "Russian spring", "justice", "democracy in the republics", if Russia did not recognize them for 8 years, discussed the Minsk agreements, and recognized them in 2 days only for the Operation.
    But EDRO for a long time ....
  7. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 17 September 2022 23: 34
    -2
    According to the personal opinion of the author of these lines, such a strike by the Armed Forces of Ukraine may occur in February-March 2024, when the next presidential election is due to take place in Russia.

    Neither the Armed Forces of Ukraine nor Ukraine will survive until the presidential elections in the Russian Federation.
    1. Sergey Kuzmin Offline Sergey Kuzmin
      Sergey Kuzmin (Sergei) 19 September 2022 18: 07
      0
      Neither the Armed Forces of Ukraine nor Ukraine will survive until the presidential elections in the Russian Federation.

      Russian "regroupings" in the Kyiv, Chernihiv, Sumy, and now in the Kharkov regions say otherwise. No need to wear rose-colored glasses, you need to look at the facts and draw adequate conclusions and actions. So far, it is not clear that conclusions have been drawn at the level of Russia's top leadership that have turned into actions to overcome the strategy of these strange "regroupings" in as many as four areas.
  8. Willord Offline Willord
    Willord (Andrey Ivanov) 18 September 2022 07: 55
    0
    It seems to me that we are witnessing the beginning of the end of the Russian Federation as it is today.
    Of course you see it, and we also think the same. The Russian Federation will acquire new territories, of course it will not be in that old form.
  9. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 18 September 2022 12: 23
    +7
    Let's look at it differently Putin, he is not a military man, Shoigu is also not a military man, Gerasimov is the chief of the general staff, a former tanker, at one time Shoigu noticed him somewhere and nominated him to this position. If you read his biography, you will understand that he is an ordinary careerist. There are no such generals as Shamanov or Rokhlin in the Russian army ... In general, Russia has a big problem with senior personnel. In other words, a think tank.
    1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
      aslanxnumx (Aslan) 18 September 2022 19: 04
      +4
      In short, a complete ass ahead
  10. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
    Grei grin (Gray Grin) 18 September 2022 22: 48
    0
    Muddy was muddy and remained! He is already tired of both the people and the country!
  11. alexxnumx Offline alexxnumx
    alexxnumx (Alexander) 18 September 2022 23: 04
    +1
    Putin only disguised the failure of the General Staff - and in general the president withdrew himself from the problem if he was not the commander-in-chief at all, Shoigu, like Serdyukov, was not a military man. And in general, how does our leadership imagine peaceful life in the LDNR under the Nazi regime in Ukraine? - this is some kind of special cretinism, because there will be no peace, which means this infection, since we have been dragged into the war, we must burn it to the root - there are no half measures here
  12. alexxnumx Offline alexxnumx
    alexxnumx (Alexander) 18 September 2022 23: 13
    +2
    as I understand it, in order for ours to start acting, something completely out of the ordinary must happen - well, for example, the capture of Belgorod by the Ukrainians or something worse. Or maybe the clan-oligarchic regime, which is now still in power, should be removed from it-and the economy on a war footing? The fact that it is necessary to act seriously is obvious, and not because now "slowly half-heartedly" these are the lives of civilians and our military, by the way - the General Staff screwed up
  13. Sergey Kuzmin Offline Sergey Kuzmin
    Sergey Kuzmin (Sergei) 19 September 2022 17: 51
    0
    Respect to the Author Sergey Marzhetsky! Everything laid out nicely.

    To summarize all of the above, the impression is very painful. In fact, not only the long-suffering former “separate regions of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions”, but also the liberated Azov region, Crimea, and the Russian regions bordering Ukraine turned into the “Greater Donbass” in half a year. As we predicted back in April 2022. The chosen tactics of liberating only the DPR and LPR, and even with small forces, for a long time leads to the fact that the rest of the Independent is rapidly being nazified and militarized even more than before the start of a special operation to denazify and demilitarize it.
    What all this will eventually lead to is obvious even from a soft sofa: the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be retrained according to NATO standards, rearmed and launched a large-scale attack on the Sea of ​​\u2024b\uXNUMXbAzov and Crimea with forces many times greater than the Russian group. If this does not happen today, then in six months or a year, when it will be beneficial for the Kyiv regime and the "Western partners" behind them. According to the personal opinion of the author of these lines, such a strike by the Armed Forces of Ukraine may occur in February-March XNUMX, when the next presidential election is due to take place in Russia.