Fiasco in the Kharkiv direction requires a complete revision of the NWO format

Fiasco in the Kharkiv direction requires a complete revision of the NWO format

The situation on the Eastern Front continues to deteriorate rapidly. While in the Far East President Putin, Defense Minister Shoigu and Chief of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces Gerasimov were conducting the Vostok-2022 exercises, in which 50 servicemen participated, and admiring the tank biathlon with jokes and jokes, the large-scale counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkiv region forced the Russian troops leave Balakleya, and also, according to the latest data, Kupyansk, Liman and Izyum. Now you can forget not only about the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, but even the minimum plan for the complete liberation of Donbass.


Retreat as a logical outcome of the CBO format


The fact that at least half of the city of Kupyansk, which is the main logistics center for the Russian group of troops in Izyum, was occupied by the enemy, was reported today by war correspondent Alexander Kots in his Telegram channel:

Yes, we have to admit that it was not possible to contain the enemy near Kupyansk. Together with the reserves, the detached units take up defense along the eastern bank of the Oskol.

Following Kots published even sadder news:

We are leaving Balakleya, Kupyansk, Izyum, - I would note the new friends whom I have acquired in a month and a half of my life in Izyum and who are real representatives of the glorious Russian army.

Military commander Yuri Kotenok echoed him:

The raisins are left. Russian troops retreat beyond Oskol. There is also information about the abandonment of Liman. According to other sources, fighting continues for the city.

VGTRK military commander Yevgeny Poddubny said that this decision was caused by the difficult situation at the front:

The encirclement of the Russian group in Izyum would be a disaster. The decision to withdraw from a military point of view is absolutely correct in the current shitty circumstances. Let me remind you that this is an episode, tragic and bitter, but an episode of global confrontation.

Recall that the Izyum bridgehead, previously obtained with such difficulty, was needed by the allied forces in order to complete the encirclement of the Slavic-Kramatorsk agglomeration. Now he is gone, and you can forget about the complete liberation of the territory of the DPR. The Russian troops were saved by hastily withdrawing them from Izyum, but the ammunition, fuel and fuel accumulated for the liberation operation will inevitably be left behind.

If you call a spade a spade, then this is a complete finish. The format of the "Soviet-Finnish War" smoothly transformed into the "Russian-Japanese War" in its new iteration. The game of giveaway with a smart and ruthless opponent ended in a natural fiasco, which was generously paid for with the blood of Russian soldiers and militias from the LDNR.

Throughout the six months of the special operation, our command, obviously not at its own discretion, carefully protected the railway and other infrastructure of Ukraine, which made it possible to continuously pump up the Armed Forces of Ukraine with modern Western-made weapons, supply ammunition, fuel and fuel and lubricants to groups on the Eastern and Southern fronts, easily maneuver reserves, transferring them from Kherson region to Kharkov region. Now the enemy has high-precision long-range missile weapons, which allows him to smash our bridges and crossings, on which the supply of Russian groups depends, into the trash. The standing of the allied forces in the Donbass, in the Kharkiv and Nikolaev directions, actually in place, caused by a banal shortage of infantry, led to the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine were already able to calmly accumulate powerful shock fists and go on the counteroffensive, having achieved exceptionally serious tactical results. Now the initiative is on his side, and already the Russian troops are backing away and retreating with the blood of the obtained bridgeheads.

How did we get to such a life, in detail understood literally the day before. Now that's it, the format of the special operation has proved its complete failure. It is impossible to fight successfully further with such small forces that are allocated to the NWO. This is a medical fact. One must either surrender to the mercy of the victor, or start fighting in earnest, driving away high-ranking advisers with their valuable "pointers" about maintaining the integrity of the Ukrainian railways, and so on. away from making purely military decisions. Otherwise, everything will end in a shameful defeat and retreat abroad until February 24, 2022.

Best case scenario. Because the Western partners did not remove the issue of Crimea from the agenda.

What to do?


The most annoying thing about what is happening is that, while this is happening on the Eastern Front, the top military-political leadership of the country thousands of kilometers away, in the Far East, is conducting exercises that no one really needs, supposedly in a joint war with China against the United States, which will never happen . If only those 50 thousand people and a thousand units of various armored vehicles would be used in the Kharkov direction, in the Donbas or in Kherson-Nikolaev. Perhaps they are not enough now in order to hold the bridgeheads, push the enemy back and go on the counteroffensive, taking half-empty Kharkov, and at the same time Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. But no, we all play soldiers while trained professionals are actually dying on the Eastern Front!

Emotions aside, the only way to avoid a complete strategic defeat in Ukraine is to move to a full-scale war, preferably with a legal declaration of it to Kyiv. This will put the sponsors of the Zelensky regime in a dilemma, whether to officially become an opponent of a nuclear power or stop supplying weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The second fundamental point concerns mobilization, which everyone here is so afraid of. The fact that a confident and quick victory requires an increase in the number of infantry by at least 300-400 thousand people does not raise the slightest doubt. The fact is that an increase in the number of ground forces can be achieved without a general draft.

At first, it is necessary, at the expense of contract volunteers, to begin the formation of new army corps for reinforcement to the already created third corps. The minimum contract period should be increased to 1-2 years.

Secondly, it is necessary to actively involve the Russian Guard in the military operation. Recall that one of the foundations for its formation was not only regional OMON and SOBR, but also the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, which had their own motorized rifle and motorized units and formations, reconnaissance units, special forces and even aviation military units. The number of employees of the Russian Guard is 340 thousand people, which is even more than all the Ground Forces of the RF Armed Forces. Of course, not all fighters are there, and not all of them should be sent to the front line. However, they can protect the rear, carry out garrison service and ensure law and order, removing the burden from the army. After all, the Donbass and the Sea of ​​Azov are already almost part of the Russian Federation.

Thirdly, you need to stop shunning volunteers from Ukraine who would like to fight on the side of Russia. There are a lot of such people, their loyalty before concluding a contract is easy to check with a polygraph. Kharkov, Sumy, Poltava, Kherson, Dnepropetrovsk, Kyiv and others should be added to the Odessa brigade.

Finally, it is necessary to begin the formation of the International Brigades. Surprisingly, this initiative did not come from some bloggers, but personally from the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Shoigu and was supported by President Putin. So where are these tens of thousands of Syrians now who were ready to come to fight for Russia in Ukraine? You can recruit volunteers somewhere in North Korea, throwing grain and fuel in gratitude to Comrade Kim.

If desired, these 300-400 thousand infantry people can be recruited quickly enough, which will turn the tide at the front. There would be a desire. Otherwise, the enemy many times outnumbered, armed with Western technique, we will eventually be kicked out of Ukraine, inflicting not only a military, but simply a monstrous image defeat.
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  1. Sergey Nikolaevich_2 (Sergey Nikolaevich) 10 September 2022 15: 07
    +15
    I am very glad that the aging and already incapacitated supreme and his old retinue in the face of the entire power block received a poke in the stomach. Disgrace. The Kremlin people overslept everything and stole, bastards)))
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 10 September 2022 15: 43
      -5
      We still don’t know the whole essence of political games and we don’t realize the ongoing retreat .. Perhaps a brilliant Kutuzov plan has been launched to lure to Russia and stop and capture the Khokhlogenerals there with peasant pitchforks (just kidding). So there is intelligence, and any command of the NWO should know the accumulations and directions of enemy strikes .. That in the Far East there are military games with 50 tons of fighters, when there is a clear shortage of troops in the NVO, and therefore retreats. A specific reproach to the supreme commander, even Gerasimov and the minister - a firefighter, with such failures, was not replaced, then we can expect a worse continuation ...
      1. ja.net.1975 Offline ja.net.1975
        ja.net.1975 (ja.net) 11 September 2022 08: 50
        +1
        you also justify the deaths of people with political games
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  2. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 10 September 2022 15: 39
    +32
    We are leaving Balakleya, Kupyansk, Izyum

    The civilian population is pitiful. Now Bucha will seem like flowers. We lost everything in three days, which took three months with great losses. Bad guys rule!!!
    1. moran Offline moran
      moran (Andrei) 10 September 2022 19: 42
      -8
      you're talking nonsense, sir. What is "everything" lost? and the most interesting who? there, in wars all over the world they cut crazy loot .... I can’t call them mediocrity. are ours worse? and pity the people.
      1. Nike Offline Nike
        Nike (Nikolai) 10 September 2022 21: 52
        +13
        Don't understand what you've lost? We have lost FAITH that Russia is coming at all. We have lost faith in the Kyiv, Chernihiv, Sumy regions, and now in Kharkov, the soldiers who are fighting off the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the hope of reinforcements have lost faith, they have lost hope of getting rid of shelling. Donetsk residents. And all the commanders in the Far The East is clapping their hands .., doesn't it all remind you of 08 08 08?
        1. moran Offline moran
          moran (Andrei) 11 September 2022 01: 49
          -5
          Already lost everything? Faith is good in such a time, if after a one-time failure it is so easily lost. Maybe if she really was, there would be fewer accomplices of the VFU in the Kyiv, Chernihiv, Sumy, Kharkiv regions?
          Farm thinking is inaccessible to one truth:

          No one will give us deliverance:
          Neither god, nor king, nor hero.
          We will achieve liberation
          With his own hand.
          1. Vyacheslav 64 Offline Vyacheslav 64
            Vyacheslav 64 (Vyacheslav) 11 September 2022 02: 30
            +11
            What hero, dear? What the fuck is a hand? What are you grinding??? The question is not what they were doing, but the question is how! Quickly, shamefully, leaving the troops and civilians to be torn apart, COMPLETE torn apart !!! What now? Who will believe you again?! At least billboards "Russia is here forever!" did you get it out???
            1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
              sgrabik (Sergei) 11 September 2022 11: 58
              -3
              What a torment that you, an alarmist, are talking about here, what the ukrokhokhly write must be divided by ten, no one has yet canceled the information war and it also goes in parallel with the hostilities, especially since the losses of personnel and equipment at Khokhlovoisk are simply huge and incomparable with ours, they are rapidly increasing every day, you somehow completely forgot to write about this here.
              1. Siberia55 Offline Siberia55
                Siberia55 (Yuri) 11 September 2022 12: 26
                0
                And he won't write. This is Tsipsoshnaya!
              2. Panzer1962 Offline Panzer1962
                Panzer1962 (Panzer1962) 13 September 2022 17: 21
                +1
                Yes, it's coming out, the Nazis are already uploading hundreds of videos on the network with reprisals against those who did not have time to leave. You also say that you retreated according to a "cunning plan", that we are "luring".
                No fools have gathered here, "thank God we distinguish forget-me-not from shit" (c), so your cries that everything is fine, go yelling in the forest.
                Crapped out, fell out to us? This is a fact, and no matter how much you scream here, the fact of defeat cannot be blurred. Or will you tryndet a la Dr. Goebbels about "leveling the front line"?
            2. moran Offline moran
              moran (Andrei) 11 September 2022 12: 13
              -3
              before you scoff, worry about the fortress of VERA and accuse anyone of treason, please tell me how many volunteers from the territories liberated in the Kharkiv region joined the allied forces?
              1. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
                Roma Phil (Roma) 11 September 2022 12: 53
                +2
                how many volunteers from the territories liberated in the Kharkiv region joined the allied forces?

                Modern warfare is the business of professionals. And voluntary recruitment into the army that is fighting is backed up by good "combat payments"
                It is known from captured Ukrainians that the militants from Azov receive $300 a day, foreign mercenaries generally get $1000 a day. Professional mercenaries, not those who just got off the couch.
                Now it’s clear what kind of financial assistance Biden and the European Union provide monthly?
                And to call on Kharkovites or Odessans and pay them, untrained, good "combat" ones - this is not just money down the drain and making cannon fodder out of them, but also exposing our Russian trained fighters to unnecessary danger.
          2. Hayer31 Offline Hayer31
            Hayer31 (Kashchei) 11 September 2022 15: 33
            +4
            "one-time failure" did you fly from the moon? And the escape from Kyiv? And 6 months of NWO is what do you think ?? How did they stop producing nails, is this a complete failure for Russia? Or is there some industry where Russia was successful? 300 billion was left to the amers, maybe this is a success, or again a multi-had?
          3. Petrovich71 Offline Petrovich71
            Petrovich71 Petrovich71 12 September 2022 16: 44
            +1
            It is good to talk about Faith and the Fatherland while sitting on a warm sofa.
            And our generals played war games. They wanted to frighten the enemy, but it did not work out.
      2. Living7111972 Offline Living7111972
        Living7111972 (Salavat Siraev) 11 September 2022 22: 33
        +1
        Why are they humans?
    2. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 10 September 2022 23: 36
      +1
      They cannot give weapons to a large number of people, perhaps as in 1916 and a repeat of what happened in 1917. They treated the family of the former king so badly, they can repeat it, if anything. To give weapons is to arm against oneself. The Ukrainians were not afraid to do it. They handed out weapons, but the people did not rise up against the Ukrainian government.
    3. ja.net.1975 Offline ja.net.1975
      ja.net.1975 (ja.net) 11 September 2022 08: 56
      +4
      since the age of 14 these mediocrity have been puppeting under the mask and gestures of goodwill to protect people
  3. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 10 September 2022 16: 08
    +15
    if even after such a kick in the ass the Kremlin strategist does not draw conclusions, then this government will sign its own verdict
    1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
      steelmaker 10 September 2022 17: 06
      +2
      this government will sign its own verdict

      This morning, the news poll said - 80% confidence in Putin!
      1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
        aslanxnumx (Aslan) 10 September 2022 17: 47
        +1
        Questioning yourself.
      2. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
        Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 10 September 2022 19: 04
        +4
        They would have written 90, but they would consider us completely fools, and we are fools, but not quite.
        1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
          sgrabik (Sergei) 11 September 2022 12: 03
          -4
          If you yourself are a fool, then there is no need to generalize and write for others, answer for yourself.
      3. Adler77 Offline Adler77
        Adler77 (Denis) 10 September 2022 22: 57
        +1
        So everyone supported Cheusheska ... in words.
        1. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
          Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) 11 September 2022 09: 03
          -1
          Ceausescu militants killed Humpback
    2. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 10 September 2022 19: 55
      -4
      And will you carry it out?
      Do not talk nonsense!
    3. ja.net.1975 Offline ja.net.1975
      ja.net.1975 (ja.net) 11 September 2022 08: 58
      +3
      remember the year 14 and the result of the mediocre Minsk agreements and WHAT ......!?
  4. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 10 September 2022 16: 29
    +5
    I remember how some people seriously argued whether it was necessary to “liberate” the whole of Ukraine or only Novorossia))
  5. Avarron Offline Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) 10 September 2022 16: 31
    +10
    I said a long time ago, I don't remember, here on Reporter or somewhere else, that a formal declaration of war would legalize the change of borders as a result of the war, and strike at those who would side with Ukraine with a relatively legal justification.
    1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 10 September 2022 17: 58
      0
      Putin initially did not want to do this - he loves everything according to the law. And an official war would have a lot of both international difficult formalities, not only with Ukraine, but also various measures inside that few people would like ... And so an operation and an operation, such as in Syria ... Only on a larger scale ... to put it mildly. The Turks are doing the same thing - a precedent .... I think somehow they see it up there ...
  6. alexandrsargatka (Alexander Moskvin) 10 September 2022 16: 49
    -3
    So the stigma of the alarmist opened up, just a few difficulties arose - everything was gone right away.
    1. Siberia55 Offline Siberia55
      Siberia55 (Yuri) 11 September 2022 12: 29
      -1
      hi And look how many sang along-all-weapons climbed out. How flies lick
  7. Valentine Offline Valentine
    Valentine (Valentin) 10 September 2022 16: 58
    +9
    We’re leaving, retreating, leaving ..... There’s nothing to say about the image, justify ..... to the fullest, now you already need to think to which "red line on the territory of Russia" the national battalions of Ukraine will reach, and now Ukrainian tanks on Red Moscow square is no longer a joke. They all blew it in parades and tank biathlons, but how many of our guys died in the steppes of Ukraine for no reason, how bitter it is to realize.
  8. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 10 September 2022 17: 35
    0
    Fiasco in the Kharkiv direction requires a complete revision of the NWO format

    - In the current situation, our Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will not be able to stop the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - they will move - until they run out of "capture reserve" !!! - We (the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation) have too few forces and means for this !!!
    - So our Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will have to step back even further so as not to lose more !!! - Our Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will have to go on the defensive - and ... and ... and prepare reserves, train them, train them, etc.; and not only to train infantry - but artillerymen, tankers, MLRS specialists; equip with modern equipment (UAVs and all kinds of navigation devices, orientation and target acquisition, etc.) and so on! - So that military operations could continue further - unless our leadership becomes completely limp and begins to accept the terms of surrender !!!
    - I (back in August this year) already in the subject:

    The National Interest: The conflict in Ukraine will not end with the victory of Moscow or Kyiv

    - I already wrote (there are so many minuses of the couch "pseudo patriots" they set me up !!!) that:

    - It seems that the time has come to build very powerful fortifications along the line of military operations of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the Armed Forces of Ukraine! - Personally, I see no other way out! - It's time to start creating powerful lines with defense in depth along the entire perimeter of hostilities! - The forces of the RF Armed Forces are clearly not enough to continue attacking throughout the entire area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbhostilities and break through the front line! - It remains only - to go on the defensive! - It is necessary to pull up military builders, military construction equipment, building materials and start building fortifications! - In the conditions of the summer period - it will be much easier and less costly to do - than during the onset of cold weather!
    - Well ... - to build up strenuously, to prepare a real "breakthrough army" (with well-armed and equipped divisions)

    - Here, it's time to move on to this (though very late)! - At the moment - there is no other way out!
    - It would be possible to inflict a "imitation strike" (imitate an offensive - and then how it will turn out) on Kyiv from Belarus - this would be very effective - but there are no forces and means for this! - Yes, and how Lukashenka will react to all this now is also a problem !!!
    1. Adler77 Offline Adler77
      Adler77 (Denis) 10 September 2022 23: 04
      +8
      It was visible to everyone who has a brain. But some have a tarpaulin boot ....
      A couple of months ago it was clear that the front had stopped, there was no one to attack. Well, we got it. In theory, they have now left the air defense cover zone, so where is the aviation? It does not hang over your head and does not burn enemy vehicles. Our infantry did not have enough anti-tank weapons ... there was nothing to stop even light equipment.
      Defense in one line of trenches with a rifle ... ridiculous.
  9. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
    Pishenkov (Alexey) 10 September 2022 17: 39
    -4
    What's the panic? War is a flexible business. And since, apparently, the leadership of the Russian Federation for some reason decided to play chess with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and not Chapaev, we have to play here. And the opponent has successful moves, and that's okay.
    Although the conclusions are correct, they were on the surface before that, and if they have not yet been implemented, then someone does not want this. Yes, there is little that is understandable on the couch without real information, but why the whole ukroinfrastructure is really still working, why everyone is not too lazy to go to Kyiv with "visits", why, finally, Zelya with his entire gang is still alive and well, is clearly somehow incomprehensible. Maybe some other HPP? It should be noted that so far, almost everything comes out with him, even what initially seems like an obvious mistake ...
    1. Adler77 Offline Adler77
      Adler77 (Denis) 10 September 2022 23: 05
      +3
      It's not a plan, it's a failure... a fiasco.
  10. EVYN WIXH Offline EVYN WIXH
    EVYN WIXH (EVYN WIXH) 10 September 2022 17: 56
    0
    Anecdote:

    The husband sits in the kitchen and solves a crossword puzzle. He asks his wife, standing next to him: "The six-letter word - failure, defeat, collapse of hopes - the second letter I. I have only a variant p ... c." The wife prompts the correct answer (see the title of the article).

    I think the author of the article knows this anecdote.
  11. Kuramori Reika Offline Kuramori Reika
    Kuramori Reika (Kuramori Reika) 10 September 2022 18: 05
    -1
    For me, this is more like luring Ukrainian reserves out of the depths of defense from their well-established positions. I wouldn't be surprised if a tank attack soon took place, cutting off this entire grouping. Yes, and a blow from Belarus also seems logical.
    1. Dukhskrepny Offline Dukhskrepny
      Dukhskrepny (Vasya) 10 September 2022 20: 08
      +3
      Who is the author of this brilliant plan? Shoigu and Gerasimov? And then a week before the Bug? Are you thinking too much about the command of the NWO
      1. borisvt Offline borisvt
        borisvt (boris) 10 September 2022 22: 07
        +6
        I guess I agree. A firefighter at that age can no longer become a military man ((
    2. Adler77 Offline Adler77
      Adler77 (Denis) 10 September 2022 23: 07
      +5
      It's funny, yes, soon they will lure Belgorod away, and only then !!!
    3. Vyacheslav 64 Offline Vyacheslav 64
      Vyacheslav 64 (Vyacheslav) 11 September 2022 02: 36
      -1
      Did you listen to Solovyov? Drink something, reboot your brain!
  12. Ivanushka-555 Offline Ivanushka-555
    Ivanushka-555 (Ivan) 10 September 2022 18: 16
    0
    Why is the name Putin not given as the author? The fool understands that it is he who does not allow to fight for real! And everything should begin with strikes against Poland and Romania, from where the delivery of weapons, ammunition and well-trained living forces comes from!
  13. zuuukoo Offline zuuukoo
    zuuukoo (Sergei) 10 September 2022 18: 34
    +4
    Leave your fantasies about tens of thousands of contract volunteers.
    The recruitment campaign has been going on since the spring.
    On the central media with enviable regularity, references surfaced about how "a resident of the Russian outback will be able to earn 300-400 thousand a month."
    Even the top bar for age was removed.
    Moreover, those who could not go to the Moscow Region (with a criminal record, etc.) were offered PMCs (the prospect is doubtful, from the point of view of social guarantees, but whoever needs it went).
    Everyone who wanted to have already signed up.

    ZY: As for the exercises, somewhere someone said that before being sent to the combat zone, the units should not get out of the training grounds for several months.
    So there is a faint hope that it was some kind of "final exam".
    At least I would like to hope that the country's leadership still has a "Plan B".
  14. Potapov Offline Potapov
    Potapov (Valery) 10 September 2022 19: 18
    +11
    Strelkov, cursed by all officialdom, screamed about the expected offensive of the Ukrainians ... For several months ... But he is not an authority for our victorious ones ... Since he demands the start of a full-fledged war to achieve goals that are currently unattainable ... There is a war with NATO against us, using motivated Ukrainian fascists ... Stop squinting ... Stop stupidly destroying our professional military, Wagnerites, Akhmatovites, the DPR, LPR corps ... Either fight, or go to NATO ... Diplomats who handed over Gostomel, Chernobyl, a grandmother with red flag - hello traitors to the motherland ...
    1. Vamp Offline Vamp
      Vamp (wamp) 10 September 2022 21: 19
      -4
      Quote: Potapov
      Strelkov screamed about the expected offensive of the Ukrainians ... For several months

      Yes Yes.
      He also withdrew his units (most) from Slavyansk in 2014 in advance, although the city was defended for a long time.
      1. Vyacheslav 64 Offline Vyacheslav 64
        Vyacheslav 64 (Vyacheslav) 11 September 2022 02: 40
        +8
        But what, he was supposed to hold the front against the regular army with several hundred without a heavy one ?! And so he worked wonders.
    2. ja.net.1975 Offline ja.net.1975
      ja.net.1975 (ja.net) 11 September 2022 09: 06
      +6
      Strelkov shouted back at 14 and asked for help, but received a kick in the ass, oblivion and slander ......
  15. Alex D Offline Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 10 September 2022 19: 29
    +12
    The entire SVO had to be carried out back in 2014-2015. Then there would be fewer victims and the people would be more cheerful.
    1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 10 September 2022 19: 58
      +3
      Haven't local turbopatriots repeated the mantra to you that "then we weren't ready"? Do not flatter yourself and do not be upset - they will run in and scientifically substantiate.
  16. Dukhskrepny Offline Dukhskrepny
    Dukhskrepny (Vasya) 10 September 2022 20: 12
    +9
    From an open letter to Putin, Colonel General Leonid Ivashov dated February 13 of this year:

    ...... in order for Ukraine to remain a friendly neighbor for Russia, it was necessary for it to demonstrate the attractiveness of the Russian model of the state and the system of power.

    But the Russian Federation did not become one, its development model and foreign policy mechanism of international cooperation repel almost all neighbors, and not only.

    The acquisition of Crimea and Sevastopol by Russia and their non-recognition as Russian by the international community (and, therefore, the overwhelming number of states in the world still consider them to belong to Ukraine) convincingly shows the failure of Russian foreign policy, and the unattractiveness of domestic.

    Attempts to “love” the Russian Federation and its leadership through an ultimatum and threats of the use of force are senseless and extremely dangerous.

    The use of military force against Ukraine, firstly, will call into question the existence of Russia itself as a state; secondly, it will forever make Russians and Ukrainians mortal enemies. Thirdly, there will be thousands (tens of thousands) of dead young, healthy children on one side and on the other, which will certainly affect the future demographic situation in our dying countries. On the battlefield, if this happens, Russian troops will face not only Ukrainian military personnel, among whom there will be many Russian guys, but also military personnel and equipment from many NATO countries, and the member states of the alliance will be obliged to declare war on Russia.
    In addition, Russia will definitely be included in the category of countries that threaten peace and international security, will be subject to the heaviest sanctions, will turn into a pariah of the world community, and will probably be deprived of the status of an independent state.
    In our opinion, the country's leadership, realizing that it is not capable of leading the country out of the systemic crisis, and this can lead to an uprising of the people and a change of power in the country, with the support of the oligarchy, corrupt officials, lured media and security forces, decided to activate the political line for the final destruction Russian statehood and the extermination of the indigenous population of the country.
    1. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
      Paul3390 (Paul) 10 September 2022 20: 35
      +8
      Putin no longer had any other choice. As a result of all his activities for 22 years. For the ukrovermacht - for sure - would have flooded the Donbass in the spring, and without options it was crushed, having arranged a terrible massacre there. Whatever our guarantor would never have been forgiven inside the country. But the most important thing is that crests would stop there. And with a very high degree of probability - would have turned to the Crimea. As a result, everything would have happened in exactly the same way, but in much worse starting conditions for us. So .. Previously, it was necessary to think, in 2014 .. And not to sign idiotic agreements in Minsk ..
      1. Adler77 Offline Adler77
        Adler77 (Denis) 10 September 2022 23: 11
        +4
        Ha ha, and now there is no fucking massacre? And all freak out how successful.
      2. Vyacheslav 64 Offline Vyacheslav 64
        Vyacheslav 64 (Vyacheslav) 11 September 2022 02: 44
        +7
        And what did he do for 22 years? Who, with the help of mediocre ambassadors and mediocre politics, turned a fraternal people into a hostile one?
      3. Dukhskrepny Offline Dukhskrepny
        Dukhskrepny (Vasya) 11 September 2022 18: 04
        +2
        So it was he who led the matter to such a finale .. Appointing Chernomyrdin in Ukraine, who drinks vodka with local oligarchs and plays the harmonica, and then this Zubkov to serve his pension. All politics with Ukraine came down to gas and a pipe and his profits
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  17. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 10 September 2022 20: 38
    +1
    Quote: Pyshenkov
    Putin initially did not want to do this - he loves everything according to the law. And an official war would have a lot of both international difficult formalities, not only with Ukraine, but also various measures inside that few people would like ... And so an operation and an operation, such as in Syria ... Only on a larger scale ... to put it mildly. The Turks are doing the same thing - a precedent .... I think somehow they see it up there ...

    Would have ONE, but catastrophic formality. Declaring war and helping the enemy with NATO camps automatically makes them enemies against whom we HAVE to fight. Or keep silent, pretending not to understand. What's even worse. In order not to put Russia before SUCH a choice, we will end this proxy war. In that form. But, perhaps, with much greater forces and means.
  18. Victorio Offline Victorio
    Victorio (Victorio) 10 September 2022 20: 38
    -6
    Quote: Sergey Nikolaevich_2
    already disabled supreme

    but! Putin is already incapacitated!? such, yes to many of us, incapacity!
  19. ChopChop Offline ChopChop
    ChopChop 10 September 2022 20: 39
    +8
    Of course, administrative measures (volunteers, contractors) are needed, but first of all, it is the top leadership of the country who needs the will to win. And this is not visible. The GDP announced the SVO and thinks that everything will be according to his desire, like Emelya with a pike. In general, it is necessary, as in the song:

    And we need one victory, one for all, we will not stand up for the price

    But he's too small for that.
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 10 September 2022 21: 44
      +3
      There is simply not enough infantry and this is not a secret. And there are few people who want to sign a contract. And without infantry it is difficult to fight.
      1. Adler77 Offline Adler77
        Adler77 (Denis) 10 September 2022 23: 13
        +3
        So there was no need to start.

        Take the burden on your own, so as not to fall when walking
  20. Kapany3 Offline Kapany3
    Kapany3 10 September 2022 21: 33
    -8
    Don't feed you bread, let the Kremlinites blame you. Forget about them, the article has a lot of ideas that are quite realistic to implement. For this, just the generals are needed, who will offer a PLAN.
  21. borisvt Offline borisvt
    borisvt (boris) 10 September 2022 22: 03
    +6
    Excellent article! Laconic and painfully written, which resonates with the same chord in every normal reader of this Internet resource. There is simply nothing to add, nothing to add - everything is essentially, to my great regret ((
  22. Vamp Offline Vamp
    Vamp (wamp) 10 September 2022 22: 27
    -9
    While in the Far East, President Putin, Defense Minister Shoigu and Chief of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces Gerasimov conducted the Vostok-2022 exercises

    According to Marzhetsky, it turns out that Putin should lead the troops, and Shoigu and Gerasimov with sabers should attack ukrov naked. Maybe it’s time for the author to turn on his brains and understand that Syria has its own commander, Ukraine has its own, and in Russia life and work do not stop and the president is in charge of the country’s leadership.

    in what is happening infuriates what, while on the Eastern Front

    Marzhetsky infuriates? Haloperidolchik to him and to the Eastern Front ... !!!
    1. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 10 September 2022 23: 32
      +3
      Vamp, Vamp. This is a terrible woman who scared everyone, and ate those who did not have time to escape alive. This lady, the lady, was offended that she was poked with eyes, ears and words into the deeds that are being done.
    2. ja.net.1975 Offline ja.net.1975
      ja.net.1975 (ja.net) 11 September 2022 09: 13
      0
      with this we are all right, but the rest is a matter of seams ....
  23. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 10 September 2022 23: 29
    +4
    What's terrible? It hasn't reached Moscow yet. In general, there were already thoughts that the capital should be moved inland. Build bunkers and surround the taiga with trees and barbed wire. To do, probably, the papers remained, as Hitler did. It is necessary that Ukraine would rush about to look for where the capital is now. And then suddenly, through the anus, strike at their troops from the front.
  24. rus Glyuk Offline rus Glyuk
    rus Glyuk (rus Glyuk) 11 September 2022 00: 13
    -5
    I think everyone who writes comments does not realize a simple thing, Russia does not need a victory over Ukraine at the moment ... It needs to be delayed as long as possible for a year or 2 or maybe more ...
    I believe that the true goal of Russia is coups in Europe one by one ... By the coming of power of pro-Russian politicians and the launch of joint venture 2 ... The collapse of NATO as such ....
    I don't impose my personal opinion on anyone...
    1. ja.net.1975 Offline ja.net.1975
      ja.net.1975 (ja.net) 11 September 2022 09: 15
      +4
      we have been hearing for 100 years about the decaying west, and now also crumbling, scream for sane people.
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  25. polynet Offline polynet
    polynet (polinet) 11 September 2022 00: 21
    -2
    Quote: Kuramori Reika
    For me, this is more like luring Ukrainian reserves out of the depths of defense from their well-established positions. I wouldn't be surprised if a tank attack soon took place, cutting off this entire grouping. Yes, and a blow from Belarus also seems logical.

    The General Staff of the Russian Federation in Ukraine has a chance to end the war.
    Time began to play against us starting on February 24th. Initially, NATO did not know what to expect from Russia. They supplied helmets and dry rations to Ukraine, fearing strikes on decision-making centers or the use of tactical nuclear weapons. Then went howitzers, MLRS, armored personnel carriers, tanks. Russia does not react in any way. Soon, be sure, air defense, planes and Leopards will go. Do not forget - a coalition of 53 countries has gathered against Russia, and this is not a trifle. The group, which is now advancing near Balakliya, has been FULLY equipped with Western weapons and equipment - it's time to stop talking about "Western supplies do not affect anything." They influence and how, and will continue to influence even more.

    That is why, if the Russian authorities did not plan to bombard Polish airfields, British ships and American reconnaissance aircraft, then the special operation had to be completed with the necessary forces within a month. Those. it was necessary to finish before the NATO members realized that Russia should not be feared until the boot of NATO officially entered the territory of Ukraine. Although it seems to me that they already strongly question this.

    And if they dragged it on for half a year, then it was necessary to immediately draw "red lines" AND FOLLOW THEM RIGIDLY, including the recognition of all those who contribute to the supply of weapons to Ukraine as participants in the conflict.

    And now let's get back to the title and think about what chance the General Staff of the Russian Federation had in Ukraine:

    Immediately after the approach of the Russian army to large cities, the question arose whether to turn them into Mariupol or what to do? Encircle and keep under siege is not enough strength. It was decided to pull the combat units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into the fields, to small settlements in the Donbass and grind them there (plus strikes on the rear with Caliber and Iskander). This tactic works, albeit slowly.

    And here there was a good chance to destroy in the fields 50 Armed Forces of Ukraine fully equipped with NATO equipment and weapons, trained abroad in one fell swoop, slamming the gut into which they themselves were drawn. This is not for you the SRW who were stuffed into the trenches of Donbass and who are ironed there with artillery, they cannot raise their heads and die without firing a single shot. These are motivated, trained and equipped soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. I think these are the last such reserves of Zelensky.

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  26. upiter48 Offline upiter48
    upiter48 (upiter48) 11 September 2022 02: 39
    +9
    At first, they got completely screwed up, and now they are starting to lie godlessly. The question arises - For whose victory are you working so diligently, the Supreme Commander of the Russian Army, the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin?
    Is your behavior adequate when conducting hostilities with our age-old WESTERN enemies??? WHO ARE YOUR MILITARY ADVISORS? Whose patriots are they, and what country? Level of knowledge, their experience and level of training?
    Correspond to the real circumstances on the fronts of their consultation?
    MY OPINION IS - This cowardice and lackey position of Russia during the military special operation in Ukraine has no logical justification!!! This is direct treason at the pinnacle of power. This is absurd. This is a betrayal of Russia's national interests. What is the rationale for the logic of Comrade Supreme Commander-in-Chief, President Putin - DURING MILITARY ACTIONS.
    We have twice given the lives of Russian soldiers for this territory. When advancing and when retreating. Now we will give the third time? The number of young people, soldiers of Russia, is not infinite!!! And the number of our warriors in battles is decreasing daily!!!
    In this world, the life of every person is priceless and is given to him by God only once. There won't be another time. All guilty to demote and under the military tribunal.
  27. upiter48 Offline upiter48
    upiter48 (upiter48) 11 September 2022 02: 46
    +10
    The West, using those foreign exchange resources provided by the Russian Federation, may not spend a single dollar on a war with Russia. Only by using the capital stolen from Russia, the WEST can successfully win the war with Russia.
    And all the events related to the theft of currency from the state take place under President Putin, under the Minister of Finance Siluanov, Russia's chief banker Nabiulina, under the chairman of the Accounts Chamber Alexei Kudrin. Didn’t you, Mr. President, see and didn’t know that during your work, from 2004 to the present, you have officially exported (ACTUALLY STOLE) from Russia three trillion dollars more inventory (our natural rent) than imported to Russia? This is a direct huge violation of the trade balance. The existing receivables of the WEST to Russia are three trillion dollars. This is only the officially registered amount for which Russia was robbed. The volume of foreign direct investment inflows into the Russian economy amounted to only $97.54 billion. All this theft has been done and is being done openly for many years... However, even NOW, during the special operation, with all the sanctions, the currency continues to flow from Russia to the WEST. In June 2022 alone, almost $4,7 billion was STOLEN (exported).
    At the same time, our Ministry of Finance still manages to borrow money in the WEST. Having such a budget surplus, to borrow money in foreign banks. For many years, since 2004, to watch and see that Russia's foreign exchange reserves are openly robbed, while not taking any measures, not stopping the robbery, is this not a crime of the Russian authorities ???
    Only by supplying our Russian strategic resources of gold, foreign exchange reserves of the state, oil, coal and gas, grain, you, the President of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin, ACTIVELY HELP THE ENEMY to fight with us.
    We have already started selling for export, to the ENEMY, our most important Russian strategic resource, food GRAIN!!!
    A more absurd situation with the supply of strategic goods and energy resources to the ENEMY during the conduct of hostilities with him has not yet been encountered in history. These supplies go beyond all limits of reasonable and adequate behavior during the conduct of hostilities. This is similar to such an absurdity - when the USSR is at war with the German fascists and at the same time supplies enemy Germany with gasoline for German tanks, and food grain for the army, so that they fight the Red Army and kill Soviet soldiers !!! Such an absurdity, of course, did not exist in history. For such a crime, Stalin would have shot him immediately, and no one's hand would have trembled.
    1. Down Offline Down
      Down (Etwas) 12 September 2022 10: 52
      0
      Dear, this is called capitalism, they are international bourgeois, theft. captures. deceit, pushback. withdrawal of money, these are generic features of the system, you, what surprises you?
  28. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
    Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) 11 September 2022 09: 00
    +9
    The formula of the disgrace of the authorities = everything according to plan + goodwill gesture + we didn’t really start + regrouping + fireworks. Rotten power.
  29. bratchanin3 Offline bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 (Gennady) 11 September 2022 09: 02
    -6
    Here one oniteg Onoprienko also lamented that they had left almost without a fight and that special troops had withdrawn from Kupyansk or Balakleya. Yeah, they took it and got scared, and then left their positions without a fight! Well, do not tell my slippers, onalitegi! For some reason, Sivkov did not inform Seryoga Marzhetsky in advance that he had prepared another fire bag for Bandera.
  30. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 11 September 2022 10: 00
    +5
    What is everyone worried about? Everyone knows that there is Putin's Cunning Plan! (HPP)
    If we analyze the last years, then it is applied everywhere!

    "We will not change the constitution" - they changed it, "we will not raise the retirement age" - they raised it.
    "Let's reach the Moon by 2015" - they froze / postponed the program, Let's launch SP2 - they didn't launch it, "Forward Russian Spring" - all Russian enthusiasts are dispersed, EDRA officials rule, we will protect the LDNR - they deliberately did not recognize it for 8 years; "we will make 2000 armats, Petrels, Poseidons, dozens of SU 57" - there are neither petrels, nor 2000 armats .; there will be no war - they attacked; "we don't divide Ukraine" - we officially declare our accession, there will be an import substitution - official statements of failure, and much more ...

    Obviously, not all the goals of the NWO were brought to the attention of the population. On the contrary, "a small victorious war" was not voiced anywhere. Quite possibly a "long distraction operation". This approach has been written about since the ancient Greeks...

    HPP, Edro, period...
  31. Andrey Andreev_2 (Andrey Andreev) 11 September 2022 10: 09
    +3
    What is the National Guard? They need to be retrained, they are sharpened to disperse demonstrations ... But biathlons, footballs, forums, sports days, city days, the construction of monuments, concerts for the whole universe, etc. crap are completely useless now.
  32. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
    Vox_Populi (vox populi) 11 September 2022 11: 04
    0
    If you call a spade a spade, then this is a complete finish. The format of the "Soviet-Finnish War" smoothly transformed into the "Russian-Japanese War" in its new iteration. The game of giveaway with a smart and ruthless opponent ended in a natural fiasco, which was generously paid for with the blood of Russian soldiers and militias from the LDNR.

    Indeed, the NWO is somewhat similar to all of them and partly to the WWI. I don’t agree about the “giveaways”, the problem here is planning and preparation ...

    Now the enemy has high-precision long-range missile weapons, which allows him to smash our bridges and crossings, on which the supply of Russian groups depends, into the trash.

    This once again confirms not only the lack of infantry, but also high-precision weapons and target designation.
  33. kalita Offline kalita
    kalita (Alexander) 11 September 2022 11: 48
    +3
    Not the command, but the soldiers. We do not have generals who understand at least something in tactical actions.???
    Who directs the operation so incompetently that the crests outplayed us.
    Someone promised the population to stay forever, and then they left them to the mercy of Ukrainians.
    1. bsk_una Offline bsk_una
      bsk_una (Nick) 11 September 2022 17: 21
      0
      The generals were dispersed when Taburetkin was at the suggestion of the commander in chief, who was dissatisfied with the remnants of the USSR.
  34. Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) 11 September 2022 12: 04
    0
    There are also positive moments (perhaps even they underlie what is happening) - now, as the Supreme Kokainimus Zelensky himself said, the offensive will not stop until Vladivostok is taken. The Armed Forces of Ukraine will be driven forward, which will significantly simplify the process of demilitarization, speed it up, and save our lives.

    In the end, those expectations that the dill hysteria is now dispersing will turn into a large-scale drain of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Zelensky can no longer stop, the military solution no longer has alternatives for him. This is perhaps what Russia needs, given that hopes for the "enlightenment" of the brains of the population of Ukraine have not materialized. We'll have to grind the military potential of the ukroreich completely.
  35. Mikhalych Offline Mikhalych
    Mikhalych 11 September 2022 12: 17
    +3
    This episode suggests that the war is not won without infantry. And the nasty girl Euphoria attacked the Russian generals. They thought that they would win with artillery alone. Khokhols adapted and gave the reins under the tail. I hope that the Russian leadership will sober up and start fighting for real. And then: "we have not yet begun to fight." Boastful God punishes.
    what
  36. Georgy Klochkov Offline Georgy Klochkov
    Georgy Klochkov (Georgy Klochkov) 11 September 2022 12: 46
    +1
    Everything is correct. It's time to stop flirting with the enemy. This just looks indecent. The war has already begun - mobilization and waging it for an adult without any leniency towards the enemy. Now it's too late to try to get out of her backyard. You must either win or surrender. But in case of surrender, the whole country is waiting for the HAGUE TRIBUNAL and humiliating reparations.
    1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
      aslanxnumx (Aslan) 11 September 2022 12: 52
      +3
      Why the hell should we give up.
      1. Down Offline Down
        Down (Etwas) 12 September 2022 11: 01
        0
        And you have such a role in the state. You don’t influence anything, as long as, however, they give you steam on the Internet, but no more. And for now.
        1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
          aslanxnumx (Aslan) 12 September 2022 11: 09
          +3
          Already blocked on military review. They write against ukrobots, although I am from Russia. And about surrender, let whoever wants to surrender, but I don’t belong to them. As one Adyghetz said during the Second World War, Russians do not surrender.
  37. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 11 September 2022 13: 22
    +2
    Everything is correct. And sane people are clear. It is not clear only to the commander-in-chief who cares about the infrastructure of the enemy and for saving the lives of the population behind the front line. But soon he will see that the countries that yesterday looked in his direction will turn away from him. Showing impotence will be of no interest to anyone.
    1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
      aslanxnumx (Aslan) 12 September 2022 11: 10
      +1
      And most importantly, the elections where Edro won.
  38. yakisam Offline yakisam
    yakisam (Alexander) 11 September 2022 14: 38
    +2
    Well yes
    When a certain yakisam published an article on February 25.02.2022, 7 with a detailed explanation - WHY it will be like this in about 8-7 months, they called him names, "disassembled" and "refuted", laughed about XNUMX months and then the article was deleted as "insulting" and "unreliable".
    Well, yakisam doesn’t care, he will figure it out (-us)
    But what about those tens of thousands of people who were killed, I emphasize - SPECIALLY KILLED in order to get this fiasco? I say "specially" because if the stupid and ignorant yakisam foresaw anything, then the command should have foreseen it, is it a billion trillion times smarter than yakisam? And since they foresaw, it means they were killed on purpose. How about them?
    1. Vyacheslav Krylov (Vyacheslav Krylov) 11 September 2022 20: 36
      +2
      Quote: yakisam
      the command should have foreseen, it is a billion trillion times smarter than yakisam-a

      Should not have foreseen, because it could not. A billion trillion times smarter is a self-assessment that does not correspond to reality and at someone else's expense. It can be said roughly that the authorities (military and civilian) are stupid. But they simply won’t believe it, because they are inattentive to small details that lead to big troubles. This is a scientifically proven fact.
  39. bsk_una Offline bsk_una
    bsk_una (Nick) 11 September 2022 17: 18
    0
    The defeat is not only an image one, but simply a loss of confidence of the peoples of those territories that are already free from the Nazis and the Russians, who still doubted their viability, understood everything thoroughly. But the defeat of the Nazis is necessary from their traitors who are in power. Everyone who read at least something on the Internet knew about the preparation of the offensive in the Kharkov region. Bloggers are more literate than generals who have settled in headquarters. Because, as Vanga will say, this is a betrayal of the Kremlin sing-alongs and staff officers, who, in all likelihood, received a large bribe. I do not exclude such an option, because. such a betrayal has always led to the defeat of countries; this is not an isolated case. It can be explained by the withdrawal of troops from Kyiv, counteracting the supply of weapons from the Nazi Geyropa, the transfer of the Azov Nazis to Ukraine, how did Abramovich appear at the negotiations in Turkey, etc. ... This is only a betrayal on the surface, but what is under the veil ???
  40. Civil pensioner Offline Civil pensioner
    Civil pensioner 11 September 2022 17: 32
    -1
    Suppose there are not enough forces and means at the front! I can’t say anything about it, there is no data. Suppose, for some reason, we cannot destroy the infrastructure behind enemy lines. But who prevents the forces of saboteurs from killing the heads of government bodies, engineers, scientists and simply "iconic" "respected" people in Ukraine? Zelensky does not count - a psychopath in power is good for us, but why are the Ukrainians and the “oligarchs” who sympathize with them alive? Why are there no acts of sabotage and terrorist attacks, why don’t bloodied corpses be taken out of the subway in Kyiv, why didn’t cattle die from “unknown” diseases?
    1. Down Offline Down
      Down (Etwas) 12 September 2022 11: 04
      +1
      Because this is a pretext for a world war. since within the framework of the NWO, terrorism is not allowed, at least as voiced by the government.
    2. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
      Vox_Populi (vox populi) 12 September 2022 19: 57
      0
      Why are there no acts of sabotage and terrorist attacks, why don’t they carry bloody corpses out of the subway in Kyiv, why didn’t cattle die from “unknown” diseases?

      Such proposals or wild stupid malice or vicious provocation!
  41. ja.net.1975 Offline ja.net.1975
    ja.net.1975 (ja.net) 11 September 2022 20: 45
    +1
    the whole revision will come down to the fact that they will conclude some kind of Istanbul agreement and we will wait for the next militant crest with modern NATO weapons, but already in our house
  42. usm5 Offline usm5
    usm5 (George) 11 September 2022 23: 24
    -1
    Probably everything is simpler and more cynical. Why declare war and anger the Russian people. It is better to withdraw troops and leave Kyiv to feed and heat the Ukrainian people in the "reclaimed lands." Let these people sharpen their teeth at the Kyiv authorities and the West, who will not be able to provide Ukrainians with a normal standard of living in the absence of electricity and gas. We are already seeing attacks on critical infrastructure. But it is unlikely that such actions will arouse the sympathy of the Ukrainian people for Russia and they are unlikely to break the determination of the Kyiv regime to resist. So you still have to mobilize the army, declare war and fight like an adult. Otherwise, the Hague Tribunal will become an objective reality.
  43. Kon1916 Offline Kon1916
    Kon1916 (Harry) 13 September 2022 16: 52
    0
    Apparently there is a condition if we destroy their infrastructure, then NATO gives all the weapons to defeat our
  44. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
    ivan2022 (ivan2022) 13 September 2022 21: 16
    +1
    The worst is also the most obvious. A people numbering 100 million, which can only point fingers at each other in search of the guilty --- for decades (!!) cannot nominate talented politicians and military men from their midst. But traitors, cretins in power and thieves bake like pies.

    I recall Field Marshal H. Munnich, a nominee of Peter 1, who lived until the time of Catherine the 2nd and saw a lot of things: "Russia is controlled by God himself, otherwise it is impossible to explain how such a country exists"

    BUT the patience of God probably comes to an end.
  45. Vadim Sharygin Offline Vadim Sharygin
    Vadim Sharygin (Vadim Sharygin) 14 September 2022 00: 30
    +1
    Why don't they announce and carry out mobilization? Therefore, I assume that mobilization will mean, firstly, the official transfer of the NMD to global military operations against the NATO bloc, including on the Ukrainian front, and secondly, this is recognition of a strategic miscalculation at the highest level, when six months of efforts did not bring expected results, thirdly, this will mean a complete parting with foreign real estate for many, many Russian government officials, they will finally lose the planned future of their families, their children and grandchildren. We will have to transfer the country's economy to a military footing, we will have to defeat the Ukrainian neo-fascists, and quickly and decisively. And this is not included in the plans of those who sleep and see how to reconcile with Ukrainian Nazism on the current front line and regain the prospects of a personal millionaire foreign future secured for budgetary money. I believe that it has already become obvious to tens of millions of Russians that with such a small, tired composition of forces and means, which is currently deployed in Ukraine, it is impossible, not only to win, to defend, taking into account the qualitatively increased NATO supplies. It is not clear only to the General Staff, the Ministry of Defence, Staraya Ploshchad, Okhotny Ryad and all those responsible persons whose moral status is low enough to declare all-Russian evidence to the face of the President. And all the so-called oppositional trash that fled abroad is gloating, pouring mud on our army, discussing the fact that Russia independently chooses the path: either to a humiliating world on the verge of a thermonuclear massacre, or to the complete depletion of missile ammunition and the losses of those released with such difficulty and losses of territories, including the territories of Donbass.
  46. Grigory_78 Offline Grigory_78
    Grigory_78 (Grigory R.) 14 September 2022 17: 52
    0
    Quote: moran
    before you scoff, worry about the fortress of VERA and accuse anyone of treason, please tell me how many volunteers from the territories liberated in the Kharkiv region joined the allied forces?

    What are you, what a betrayal, what a retreat? It's a regrouping.
    Did you recruit volunteers at all? Where, who, when? In Kherson, as many as several dozen people have recently recruited indicatively. Clearly they didn't learn anything. And in the Kharkiv region, it was completely quiet about the recruitment of volunteers.
    Everything went according to plan, smoothly. The commanders did not need either advice or volunteers. And now they are doing well, the regrouping is underway. What are you excited about?
    Of course, it would be very nice to shoot such commanders for such planned successes, but these days are not the same at all. Rather, they will also receive the next titles. And with faith in such command, everything is fine. We believe that these commanders of the Bryansk, and Belgorod, and Kursk and Voronezh regions will also successfully surrender, and the Kuban to the heap, why waste time on trifles? This is easy to believe.