Why did the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation offer to switch to Russian-Indian missiles "Brahmos"


Over the past six months of a special military operation, a huge number of Russian missiles have been fired at military facilities on the territory of Ukraine. The term "calibrate" now has a whole new meaning. It is already obvious that the NMD will take a fairly long period of time, and therefore a logical question arises - will the missile arsenal of the RF Ministry of Defense be enough to fulfill all the tasks set?


In fact, this question is periodically asked not only in our country, but also in the camp of the enemy, who is thus trying to calculate how long and effectively Russia will be able to act with its “far hand”, destroying the military infrastructure of the former Independent. We do not have exact data, but in his July 17 televised address, President Zelensky gave the following figures:

As of 19:600 today, Russia has already used more than XNUMX cruise missiles (CR) against Ukraine, not counting ballistic missiles. On average, XNUMX CR per month.

Indeed, the special operation imperceptibly grew into a large-scale war with a country the size of France. At the same time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have a fairly serious air defense system, which makes it very difficult for the Russian Aerospace Forces to operate. The safest way to hit large significant targets so far remains a missile strike. No one knows exactly how many Calibers are in the warehouses of the Russian Ministry of Defense, this is a military secret, so Western analysts have to build their forecasts based on indirect data.

So, for example, Stetson Payne, a military expert from the specialized American publication The War Zone, drew far-reaching conclusions from the use of "non-core" missiles by the Russian army in Ukraine:

Another sign of Russia's missile stockpile predicament has been an increase in the use of missiles that weren't designed for it in the first place. So, the S-300 air defense systems were designed and optimized for the destruction of aircraft, but Russia used them for ground attack during the summer hostilities. This, and the use of anti-ship missiles against land targets, points to the Russian desire to keep more accurate and modern missiles.

Indeed, back in March 2022, P-800 Onyx anti-ship missiles hit ground targets in the settlements of Veliky Dalnik and Velikodolinskoye in the Odessa region, which destroyed the centers of radio and electronic intelligence of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. A few days later, with the help of ground-based anti-ship missiles from the same Bastions, a fuel base in the Nikolaev region in the territory controlled by Kyiv was liquidated. Naturally, the Ukrainian propagandists then perked up, telling the general public that the Russians had run out of Caliber. True, their joy was somewhat premature. It's September, and the "calibration" continues as before.

However, Alexander Maksichev, co-director of the Russian-Indian enterprise Brahmos, gave a reason to talk about this serious topic again, who proposed to start supplying his supersonic anti-ship missiles to Russia:

We are ready to fulfill such an order. In today's conditions, Brahmos missiles would be very useful to the Russian army.

RCC PJ-10 "Brahmos" (PJ-10 BrahMos) is a product of cooperation "NPO Mashinostroeniya" and the Defense Research and Development Organization of the Ministry of Defense of India. It is a supersonic anti-ship missile based on an export version of the Russian P-800 called Yakhont. It is capable of speeds from Mach 2,5 to Mach 2,8 and can be launched from ships, submarines, coastal missile systems and aircraft. The range of destruction in the basic version is 300 kilometers, in the modernized version - 450 kilometers. The anti-ship missile is guided to a ground or sea target by an inertial system and corrected by a radar homing head. Production is carried out by SO BrahMos Aerospace in Hyderabad, India, and OAO PO Strela in Orenburg. Under the terms of the agreement, it was supposed to produce up to 1000 anti-ship missiles, of which a third was to be exported.

Maksichev's proposal sounds quite interesting. "Brahmos" are built on Russian technologies and standards and are fully integrated into domestic systems. Obviously, the stocks of "Caliber" in the warehouses of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation are far from endless. True, worrying about this, fearing that the missiles will soon run out, is also not worth it. Information leaked to the press that the relevant defense enterprises switched to work in three shifts. Active consumption will be constantly replenished with new missiles.

However, the "Caliber" missile is still quite expensive, and it is a pity to spend it on some secondary targets behind enemy lines. In this case, anti-ship missiles designed to fire at ground targets may well act as a "far hand". If the capacities of the Indian enterprise allow delivering Brahmoses to Russia, then why not take advantage of this opportunity? Missiles are not redundant.
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  1. zzdimk Offline zzdimk
    zzdimk 6 September 2022 11: 41
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    The Perm Powder Plant has additionally opened 350 vacancies. It's a shame that the war became an impetus for industry.
    1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 6 September 2022 12: 53
      +4
      Quote: zzdimk
      It's a shame that the war was the impetus for the industry

      In fact, war always becomes an impetus for industry. There is ample evidence for this in history.
      And the defense industry itself in peacetime has always been a generator of ideas and developments, which almost invariably have peaceful applications as well.

      Quote: Sergey Marzhetsky
      the special operation imperceptibly grew into a large-scale war

      Majority of Russians support special operation in Ukraine, poll shows
      https://news.mail.ru/society/52932793/?frommail=1

      From March to September, support for NWO in Russia decreased by 3%. And this is far from a statistical error.
    2. AleksandrAl Offline AleksandrAl
      AleksandrAl (Alexander) 19 September 2022 13: 00
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      War is the engine of progress !!!
    3. Alexander Ponamarev (Alexander Ponamarev) 20 September 2022 04: 57
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      It always has been
  2. mark1 Offline mark1
    mark1 6 September 2022 13: 12
    +5
    "Caliber" is still quite an expensive rocket,

    Author, why did you decide that "Brahmos" is cheaper? Maksichev's statement is just an attempt to solve his commercial problems using the current situation.
    I don’t know the motivations for using Onyxes, but according to the S-300, I can assume that there is a disposal of missiles of the first series, still Soviet ones.
    1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 6 September 2022 13: 41
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      Quote: mark1
      Maksichev's statement, just an attempt to solve their commercial problems using the current situation

      What did you find wrong with it? Let it be somewhat cynical, but this is the development of production, funds for new developments, jobs with a decent salary, social programs, filling the pension fund, etc. During the world wars, the West did not hesitate to make money on this. What came out of it, it is necessary to show? During those times, the USSR was also not shy about trading in weapons (although it wrote off a lot of debts or gave it as a gift. What this led to is also perfectly visible). At one time, even the documentation for the S-300 was sold in the United States quite officially (although the Americans, who were rubbing their hands rather, did not get anything from this, because they could not disassemble the software). But Russia had money for new developments.
      1. Fizik13 Offline Fizik13
        Fizik13 (Alexey) 7 September 2022 08: 24
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        Quote: k7k8
        What did you find wrong with it? Let it be somewhat cynical, but this is the development of production, funds for new developments, jobs with a decent salary, social programs, filling the pension fund, etc.

        under our strict guidance, this rocket was developed. All production is located in India. And all these jobs from ... will be in India. And it is NOT a FACT that these missiles are cheaper, more accurate and more reliable. And the rest is a farce of our next businessman.
  3. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 6 September 2022 13: 41
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    Why did the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation offer to switch to Russian-Indian missiles "Brahmos"

    - Well, hour by hour it doesn't get any easier!
    - Well and

    Perhaps this is the great homespun truth!

    - This is not my phrase - this was spoken by V. Lokhankin ("The Golden Calf" by I. Ilf and E. Petrov)! - Hahah!
    - I will only express my opinion:
    - In my opinion - "Caliber" "did not justify" themselves - too "slow" (subsonic); although they can fly low - but they are quite easy to detect, and if the enemy has decent air defense, then he will bring down the "Caliber" (and the "Caliber" charge "BB" is rather weak - ours could charge much "more powerfully")! - From the satellite, you can determine the flash (launching "Caliber") and the "system" will have time to betray the data - and there - "who is in what much"! - To shoot Caliber - you need to destroy the enemy's air defense system or neutralize it (REP, etc.)! - And without this, he (Caliber) can easily be shot down! - Yes, and "Caliber" is quite expensive to manufacture!
    - Well, the Brahmos is much more difficult to shoot down - it is a high-speed missile (supersonic);
    - Ours gave technology to the Indians (it is believed - joint Indo-Russian production), but they themselves did not produce it - it's a pity - this cruise missile today would be "well useful" to the RF Armed Forces in Ukraine and Kaliningrad and the Far East, etc.!
    - Only this is where ours will launch it from in Ukraine - we need some kind of "platform" and "guidance and launch system"! - In principle, it doesn’t take long to “invent” - but judging by the way we “assemble and produce domestic UAVs” - then this will become a problem!
    Well, what - it is necessary to introduce "Brahmos" and shoot it in Ukraine and as soon as possible !!!
  4. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 6 September 2022 13: 47
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    IMHO, supersonic specialized Bramoses should be much more expensive than universal subsonic Calibers. So I did not specifically look for a comparison

    And they seemed to write that the bright hopes of India were curtailed, and she reduced cooperation in their development and production. At least not much has been heard about them lately. Unlike 10 years ago.
  5. Yuri V.A Offline Yuri V.A
    Yuri V.A (Yuri) 6 September 2022 14: 10
    +1
    Onyx / BrahMos costs ten times more than Caliber and its use is justified only to hit an important, well-protected target
    1. AndretzAndrey Offline AndretzAndrey
      AndretzAndrey (Andrei) 19 September 2022 21: 10
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      Bramos is more expensive than Caliber ?! Where is the information from? Never would have thought
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  6. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 6 September 2022 17: 51
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    Yes, everything is possible. If only there was political will. Where is this "gateway"?
  7. Mish Offline Mish
    Mish (Misha) 9 September 2022 07: 42
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    Quote: k7k8
    Quote: zzdimk
    It's a shame that the war was the impetus for the industry

    In fact, war always becomes an impetus for industry. There is ample evidence for this in history.
    And the defense industry itself in peacetime has always been a generator of ideas and developments, which almost invariably have peaceful applications as well.

    Quote: Sergey Marzhetsky
    the special operation imperceptibly grew into a large-scale war

    Majority of Russians support special operation in Ukraine, poll shows
    https://news.mail.ru/society/52932793/?frommail=1

    From March to September, support for NWO in Russia decreased by 3%. And this is far from a statistical error.

    Because the end of the war is not visible, as well as success. The Afghan war went on for 10 years and cost 15 thousand dead. The war in Chechnya, with interruptions, is also about 10 years old and there are no less dead. This war has been going on for less than a year, and according to some sources, losses are already approaching 15 thousand further, suppose Ukraine capitulates, will you send troops into the cities on its territory? Will there be terrorist attacks at night?
  8. Pavel57 Offline Pavel57
    Pavel57 (Paul) 9 September 2022 11: 47
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    It would be nice to equip all aging anti-ship missiles with a satellite guidance unit for hitting point targets.
  9. HattinGokbori87 Offline HattinGokbori87
    HattinGokbori87 10 September 2022 17: 08
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    Why did the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation offer to switch to Russian-Indian missiles "Brahmos"

    Really good idea.
  10. Norma51 Offline Norma51
    Norma51 (Nick) 10 September 2022 19: 57
    -1
    Bramos or not Bramos, but our geniuses brewed porridge for a long time
  11. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 11 September 2022 22: 03
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    It is necessary, like a sponge, to absorb everything that will help defeat the Nazis. Not only Indian missiles, but also Korean volunteers, Iranian drones. Something is not quite right with Iran, like their Shahids ..... Watch and think.
  12. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 11 September 2022 22: 07
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    Quote: Mish
    Because the end of the war is not visible, as well as success. The Afghan war went on for 10 years and cost 15 thousand dead. The war in Chechnya, with interruptions, is also about 10 years old and there are no less dead. This war has been going on for less than a year, and according to some sources, losses are already approaching 15 thousand further, suppose Ukraine capitulates, will you send troops into the cities on its territory? Will there be terrorist attacks at night?

    There will be terrorist attacks. Work habitual for special services. Are you suggesting not to come? Give them time, and atomic weapon technology? And wait for the adoption of ukrov in NATO?
  13. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 11 September 2022 22: 10
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    Quote: Yuri V.A.
    Onyx / BrahMos costs ten times more than Caliber and its use is justified only to hit an important, well-protected target

    Right? Where are the firewood from? Even if more expensive, but they can be taken already yesterday and immediately a lot. You can pay off with oil if we don’t find the dough in time. Is the loot important to you, or is the solution of the problem with the least bloodshed for ours?
    1. Yuri V.A Offline Yuri V.A
      Yuri V.A (Yuri) 20 September 2022 04: 48
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      Oh, you won’t solve the problem, even hiding behind such good hacks about little blood, you won’t have enough oil if you start destroying tanks with Onyx
  14. AndretzAndrey Offline AndretzAndrey
    AndretzAndrey (Andrei) 19 September 2022 21: 08
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    Maybe Bramos should be compared with Iskander? The distances are the same. Why is it compared with the S-300, and even more so with the Caliber ?!