Politico explained why Putin forgave Yeltsin, but not Gorbachev

The former chief party functionary of the Soviet Union, Mikhail Gorbachev, will be buried this weekend in the same cemetery as Russia's first president, Boris Yeltsin. But unlike Yeltsin, Gorbachev does not enjoy the courtesy, fanfare, and pomposity of a state funeral from Russian President Vladimir Putin. The Kremlin says the Russian leader will not attend the funeral of a man lauded by Western leaders for helping end the Cold War. Why didn't the head of the Russian Federation forgive Gorbachev? Politico columnist Jamie Dettmer is trying to answer this question.

According to the author, the day of Boris Yeltsin's funeral was a day of national mourning, and the ceremony was broadcast live on Russian state television. On the contrary, the Kremlin waited several hours after Gorbachev's death before presenting Putin's statement, and when it came out, it was laconic. In it, Putin expressed condolences to the Gorbachev family, accompanied by a highly ambivalent compliment, since the head of state bluntly noted that Gorbachev was “a politician and statesman who had a huge impact on the course of world history,” without specifying whether this was good or bad.

It is obvious that the matter is not only in the fact that Gorbachev's reforms led to the collapse of the USSR, but in the personal humiliation young Putin experienced at the same time. Here they worked not only politicalbut economic the consequences of the collapse of the Union, which affected the future ruler of the Russian Federation personally. Dettmer suggests that Putin himself places much of the blame for the collapse of the Soviet empire on Gorbachev, not Yeltsin, even though the latter signed the Belovezhskaya Accords.

Since then, Putin has increasingly sought to turn back the clock, to undo Gorbachev's legacy, trying to regain Russia's regional influence and territorial losses incurred in the collapse of the Soviet Union, in large part due to a series of events provoked by Gorbachev. And it was this resentment over the collapse of the Soviet Union that fueled his decision to launch a special operation in Ukraine in February.

Putin was able to forgive all the sins and mistakes of Yeltsin, who, although he completed the collapse of the USSR, did not allow the dismemberment of Russia itself by separatism, but did not forgive Gorbachev's key and fatal mistake. Actually, the president of the Russian Federation now, at the cost of incredible efforts, has to correct the consequences of what Gorbachev did, and, as a Western author writes, collect the empire piece by piece.
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  1. sat2004 Offline sat2004
    sat2004 3 September 2022 08: 18
    One person could not destroy the USSR, it is physically impossible.
    All decisions taken were not the result of the collapse of the USSR.
    The collapse of the USSR is a consequence of the ideological defeat of the minds of the citizens of the USSR. Look at what the rules were, as it is now customary to call them, starting with Lenin, “rob the loot”, “enemy of the people”, “opium for the people”, “we will catch up and overtake America”, “if only the person was good”. A complete denial of the thousand-year history of Russia, its customs and way of life, its ideology, universal envy of a happy and free life beyond the "hill". A complete imitation of Western ideology, as a result, later, dancing and Yeltsin to the music of Clinton's saxophone became possible. I can't say anything about Gorbachev ...
    1. PHIL77 Offline PHIL77
      PHIL77 (Sergei) 3 September 2022 08: 57
      I think that everything is much simpler. For? Putin is Yeltsin's protege.
    2. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 3 September 2022 10: 05
      The construction of a socialist and further communist society, followed by the whole world, failed due to the degeneration of the leadership of the USSR. And since the 70s, the country, the builder of communism, has degenerated into nomenclature feudalism in the wrapper of demagogy. This did not suit anyone, and so the USSR went to pieces, it was completed in the leadership by short-sighted politicians, like M.S. Gorbachev and B.N. Yeltsin ... That's right, "the fish goes out from the head."
    3. Accidentally Offline Accidentally
      Accidentally 3 September 2022 10: 15
      The collapse of the USSR was planned and carried out by the vaunted KGB of the USSR. Alas, this is the reality of the vaunted state backs against their country, the USSR. I lay for a whole year in hospitals in 1990, the operation was performed in Kyiv on October 18, and on October 17 I remember well the Bandera people marching around Kyiv with their red and black banners and a torchlight procession and a portrait of Bandera cattle. In the evening, after my visit to the Vladimir Cathedral, the Natsiks marched along the most beautiful Taras Shevchenko Street. questions why the vaunted security forces did not make detentions and arrests .. and who served whom. there are a million questions and the answers are still masked from the people
      1. Vyacheslav 64 Online Vyacheslav 64
        Vyacheslav 64 (Vyacheslav) 4 September 2022 01: 00
        Yes, apparently you are right, a lot points to just such a version.
      2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 4 September 2022 10: 25
        The KGB of the USSR, like the army, was deliberately removed by the party from politics and acted solely on the guiding documents that defined its activities in detail. He did not have his own will and obeyed the party. Not only that, as a highly professional structure, he resisted in every possible way attempts to use it by the party leadership for personal interests.
    4. antibi0tikk Offline antibi0tikk
      antibi0tikk (Sergei) 3 September 2022 11: 09
      Why couldn't he? He really could! For me, that labeled hunchback, that Yeltsin - both scum! But only Yeltsin, for his power, went out to the square, climbed tanks, sold fiery speeches to the people. And Mr. foam balls with a bald marked head, at the first collision, merged as ... dull.
      As they say, you can’t bring order to the family with a sluggish member. So, some tagged one had to climb into such a position. Did he want reforms? So let him start with agriculture in the position of some deputy minister, but not immediately reform the whole country in the position of general secretary / president. Although his anti-alcohol campaign, he managed in agriculture.
      Again, recently Lukashenka was ready to fight for his country with a machine gun, pulled his son along with him, and did not send him somewhere to London_with_Paris. And the hunchback???..... A good person is not a profession. He would have planted tomatoes in his Stavropol region, but would not have climbed upstairs, you see, not everything would have turned out so nauseatingly.
    5. opportunist Offline opportunist
      opportunist (dim) 3 September 2022 15: 38
      How are things now under capitalism? in the countries of Eastern Europe, where after 1990 the counter-revolution prevailed and the bourgeoisie came to power? nationalism unemployment poverty wars social regression demographic problems crime growth. in the mid-70s in Ukraine they produce the best scientists and the best astronauts. today in Ukraine they sing about their Bandera father and come to cut the throats of Muscovites. in Poland today more and more people say that in the socialist during the period they had neither unemployment, nor queues at gas stations. Also, during the existence of the socialist camp, there was more peace in the world, the Anglo-Saxon imperialists did not even dare to do what they are doing today in Syria, Iraq and Libya. socialism in the USSR was not overthrown from above overthrown by the people themselves, the communist leaders themselves have degenerated since the early 70s. the means of production belong to the people, not to a minority. powerful armed forces acquired etenye by the Soviet Union. High space technologies, a high standard of living of all the people, the huge economic assistance of the Soviet Union to all oppressed peoples and all anti-colonial movements, this is scientific and historical proof in practice that a socialist state can exist even in conditions of imperialist encirclement.
    6. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 4 September 2022 13: 49
      Quote: sat2004
      One person could not destroy the USSR, it is physically impossible

      The whole course of history shows that you are wrong. Only a person can have (or not have) a significant impact on this process. For example, it was enough for Gorbachev to check whether he had testicles, and then, having taken the attendants out of Viskuli, order to build a 6-meter solid fence around the building and fill the resulting box with concrete to the top. With a good construction team and a KGB regiment, this would take 5-6 hours.
  2. Fizik13 Online Fizik13
    Fizik13 (Alexey) 3 September 2022 12: 33
    That's interesting - when Biden ruins America, will he be praised or cursed?
    1. PHIL77 Offline PHIL77
      PHIL77 (Sergei) 3 September 2022 18: 53
      Quote from Fizik13
      will he be praised or cursed?

      He simply will not be allowed to do it. There, the concept of "impeachment" is far from an empty phrase. bully
    2. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 4 September 2022 13: 50
      He will not be praised or cursed. The United States is not in danger for the next hundred years
  3. Neville Stator Offline Neville Stator
    Neville Stator (Neville Stator) 3 September 2022 21: 54
    There is only one culprit in the destruction of the Soviet Union, Gorbachev and his fifth column.
    1. PHIL77 Offline PHIL77
      PHIL77 (Sergei) 4 September 2022 08: 31
      Quote from Neville Stator
      Gorbachev and his fifth column.

      By the mid-eighties, our country certainly needed to be reformed, but? A very unsuccessful leader was caught. A liar and a talker.
    2. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 4 September 2022 10: 08
      There is only one culprit in the destruction of the Soviet Union, Gorbachev and his fifth column.

      Comrade Stalin managed to build a very strong country. By itself, it could not fall apart, and a group of people in a few years could not destroy it either.
      The collapse of the country began Khrushchev. And during his reign, he did a lot. More than Gorbachev. It just fell to Gorbachev to complete the collapse. Moreover, both Khrushchev and Gorbachev were puppets, a tool for performing certain tasks.
      There is certainly Yeltsin's fault, but it is less than the fault of Gorbachev and Khrushchev. Yeltsin, it seems, had a poor idea of ​​the real state of affairs in the USSR.
      When he took over business from Gorbachev, it was an unpleasant surprise for him that the country's gold reserves instead of 2 thousand tons of gold (before Gorbachev) turned out to be only 500 tons. And where the "gold of the party" went is still unknown. There are only memories of individual people (performers) who were involved in the export of gold to the West. His further fate is shrouded in darkness.
      Yeltsin got a ruined and impoverished country.
      At the same time, he managed to prevent the collapse of Russia. When he finally realized that the West had abandoned him (the defeat of Yugoslavia) and was not going to reckon with Russia on an equal footing, he had the courage to leave, transferring power (part of the power) to another group. Which for a long time, but steadily corrects what the predecessors have done.
      1. PHIL77 Offline PHIL77
        PHIL77 (Sergei) 4 September 2022 10: 31
        Quote: boriz
        Which for a long time, but steadily corrects what the predecessors have done.

        You correctly noticed! Exactly: a grouping. But, alas, it solves its own problems. If they wanted to change the country for the better, including the life of ordinary people .... We would live in a completely different country. Don't you think?
      2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 4 September 2022 10: 52
        You did it well, boriz. There they pulled, Here they let go. And it turned out that the man who was used by the CIA to arrange a state (palace) coup in Moscow turned out to be nothing to do with it.
        The reason for these simple manipulations is probably that it was from the hands of Yeltsin that Putin received his power, along with the country, on whose gullible people it was Yeltsin who forcibly imposed capitalism. As a result, hundreds of thousands, and perhaps even millions, of Soviet people who were not adapted to capitalism died morally and physically. My sister's husband was among the dead. I remember this time very well.
        Probably for people like you, the problem is that now, after 20 years, there is NOTHING to refute the continuity of the current government
        1. boriz Offline boriz
          boriz (boriz) 8 September 2022 11: 43
          I just placed the accents. Everyone rested against this combine driver and forgot those who did at least no less for the collapse of the USSR than he did.
          I personally think that Gorbachev honestly deserved a bullet in the back of the head. I'm sorry I didn't wait.
          As for the catastrophe that befell our country, I experienced it first hand. Yes, he survived, sorry ...
          During a short transitional period, I was deputy. foreman/head of department. The head of the shop that produced chips for microcircuits. And how purposefully they destroyed it all, I know not from other people's stories. I am now 66 years old. Then I was already quite an adult boy ...
          And as for the continuity, you are mistaken, perhaps due to age. A legal assessment of the Belovezhskaya betrayal was given by both the Congress of People's Deputies and the State Duma.
          The Belovezhskaya agreement has no legal force. It is a fact.
          And not 20 years have passed, but more than 30.
      3. Neville Stator Offline Neville Stator
        Neville Stator (Neville Stator) 4 September 2022 15: 19
        Brezhnev was a great leader. The Soviet Union was a great superpower.
      4. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 8 September 2022 11: 26
        I'm sorry, there was, of course, 2 tons of gold. Thanks for the fix.
  4. shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) 5 September 2022 02: 47
    The fish rots from the head. Gorbachev is a product of the system of that period. The system itself is rotten. The system had to be cleaned. And what did he do? Personally, I have an extremely negative attitude towards this talker and demagogue.