What conclusions can be drawn from the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Kherson


On August 29, 2022, the long-announced counter-offensive against Kherson began. It ended, in general, extremely negatively for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which made it possible for many of our jingoistic patriots to enthusiastically throw caps into the air. However, in the personal opinion of the author of the lines, it is too early to rejoice. What happened requires reflection and very serious conclusions.


"Counterattack on Kherson"


First of all, it should be noted that it, the counterattack on Kherson, nevertheless took place, despite the opinion of various would-be "experts" and "sofa analysts" that these were just "horror stories".

Yes, according to all the laws of modern warfare, this offensive should not have happened. The open steppe terrain and the total superiority of the Russian army in artillery, barreled and reactive, as well as support from the Russian Aerospace Forces, left the Armed Forces of Ukraine almost no chance. Like us celebrated earlier, a bet could only be made on a swift throw, sparing neither people nor machinery. Despite the guaranteed high losses, this would make it possible to break through to the suburbs of Kherson and try to cling to them. And the criminal Kyiv regime used this chance.

The attack went in several directions at once in order to disperse the attention of the defenders. The Armed Forces of Ukraine delivered a number of unsuccessful strikes with Western-style long-range artillery. At the same time, domestic military experts saw the use of NATO manuals in the tactics of their actions to organize the offensive. However, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation knew about the preparation of the Ukrainian operation in advance from President Zelensky, which made it possible to prepare well for a “warm meeting”. Already on August 30, Igor Konashenkov reported on the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine:

The effective actions of the Russian group of troops destroyed 48 tanks, 46 infantry fighting vehicles, 37 other armored fighting vehicles, eight pickup trucks with heavy machine guns and more than 1200 Ukrainian servicemen in a day.

When repulsing the enemy offensive, Russian troops defeated units of the 128th Separate Mountain Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine transferred to participate in the operation from western Ukraine. Five servicemen of this brigade laid down their arms and surrendered.

After the introduction of the reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the losses increased even more, making them the largest one-time losses in the entire six months of hostilities on the territory of Ukraine. Now in the domestic press one can come across assessments that the actual failure of the counteroffensive on Kherson is almost a turning point in the special operation, which should significantly change its course in favor of Russia. Perhaps this is so.

I would like to draw attention to the degree of "frostbite" of the enemy. In our country, everyone nods at the inadequacy of President Zelensky, a drug addict, but the plan for the operation on the southern flank was clearly drawn up in the Pentagon. For some reason, the Ukrainian soldiers, who were trained according to NATO standards, did not rebel and did not run away through the forests, not wanting to participate in an outright adventure, but went into battle. This indicates their high motivation, which is not a reason to joyfully throw caps from soft sofas into the air.

The enemy is fierce. And this enemy - we are "in the negative": the same Russians and Ukrainians, but indoctrinated by the ideas of Nazism and pumped up with Russophobic propaganda, while being under direct external command from the Pentagon. Terrible mix.

Troopers under the ZNPP


How dangerous the enemy is can be judged by the attempt of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to seize the Zaporozhye NPP. What happened on September 1, 2022 is very reminiscent of the plots of Hollywood blockbusters.

Early in the morning, 60 Ukrainian special forces soldiers, trained in the UK, crossed from the northern shore of the Kakhovka reservoir to the southern shore in seven rubber motor boats and landed just 3 kilometers from the nuclear power plant. Apparently, their goal was to capture the berths, which were to be used by two self-propelled barges, on which reinforcements were to arrive in the form of a whole battalion of GUR special forces. They were opposed only by the fighters of the National Guard guarding the ZNPP.

If successful, the Armed Forces of Ukraine had a chance to gain a foothold at the nuclear power plant literally an hour before the arrival of the delegation from the IAEA. Western experts could then confirm the frankly delusional version of Kyiv that it is not Ukrainian, but Russian troops that are shelling the ZNPP. After that, Rosatom would definitely fall under sanctions, and "progressive humanity" would get leverage on the Kremlin so that the territory around the nuclear power plant would be unilaterally demilitarized by Russia.

Fortunately, this plan was not implemented. The Russian Guard put up desperate resistance to the saboteurs, and army soldiers with aircraft came to her aid, who forced the remnants of the Ukrainian DRGs to lie in forest plantations. Both barges, on which reinforcements to the Armed Forces of Ukraine were going to the ZNPP, were sunk in the middle of the Kakhovka reservoir. An attempt to capture the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant by Ukraine failed. But how bold was the idea! And after all, they again tried to counterattack, went on an outright adventure, just like near Kherson!

What conclusions can we draw from these two special operations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?

Confronting us, the enemy is extremely dangerous due to his high motivation to win and the support of the NATO bloc with weapons, intelligence and planning assistance. It is impossible to make peace with him. After Kyiv received long-range and anti-radar missiles, Crimea, as well as the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov, Donbass and Russian border regions, were under the threat of a strike. Will an appropriate attempt be made? Undoubtedly, it is necessary to prepare very seriously for its reflection. Also, the plans of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to launch a counterattack on Izyum in the Kharkiv direction should be taken very seriously. The enemy's chances of tactical success there are substantially higher than on the Southern Front.
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  1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 2 September 2022 19: 12
    +9
    Open steppe terrain and the total superiority of the Russian army in artillery, barreled and reactive, as well as support from the Russian Aerospace Forces,

    There are fortified positions near Avdiivka, where our offensive is slowed down and everything is from fortified positions. Well, we got up here. Why if the bare steppe and total superiority? Nuclear power plants are shelled every day. Well, what is needed to attack and liberate our lands?
    1. Corsair Offline Corsair
      Corsair (DNR) 2 September 2022 20: 15
      +4
      again tried to counterattack, went on a frank adventure, as well as near Kherson!

      What conclusions can we draw from these two special operations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?

      And the conclusion (answer), to primitivism, is simple - Adventurers don't win wars...
      1. Bobik012 Offline Bobik012
        Bobik012 (Vladimir) 3 September 2022 12: 32
        0
        their high motivation

        or utter stupidity. It was initially clear that good luck could not be seen
        1. Panzer1962 Offline Panzer1962
          Panzer1962 (Panzer1962) 5 September 2022 10: 53
          0
          You're right. Loss of touch with reality and life in the world of cocaine illusions.
        2. Sergey Kuzmin Offline Sergey Kuzmin
          Sergey Kuzmin (Sergei) 5 September 2022 11: 49
          0
          or utter stupidity.

          therefore, the most bitter and stupid ukronatsiks should be sent to Bandera so that they can calm down there forever (there is no other way to reason with them) and do not interfere with the rest of normal Ukrainians and Russians living in peace and harmony.
    2. Corsair Offline Corsair
      Corsair (DNR) 3 September 2022 03: 31
      +10
      Quote: steel maker
      There are fortified positions near Avdiivka, where our offensive is slowed down and everything is from fortified positions.

      We are reaping the fruits of "Minsk" -
      a shameful period of connivance and conciliation, wagging its tail before the West and Kyiv.
      Politicians have done their dirty work, now what recourse request ...
      Soldier blood now soldier ...
      1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
        rotkiv04 (Victor) 4 September 2022 10: 56
        +3
        why politicians, it’s time to say directly who this main politician is, but for now, of course, it’s hard to admit that this main one is the culprit of all these Minsks
    3. Bobik012 Offline Bobik012
      Bobik012 (Vladimir) 3 September 2022 12: 36
      -2
      Well, what do you need to attack

      I.A. Krylov. Fable. "Hardworking Bear" Explore at your leisure. One of the fables written on the topic of the war of 1812 for such hasty patriots. Fable "Convoy" from there
      1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
        steelmaker 4 September 2022 08: 01
        0
        on the subject of the War of 1812

        And why not 1380 or 1240, or .......????

        Nothing to do
        for the sake of poplars.
        We are a great country
        We won the wars.
        By wealth and people
        We are the first in the group
        And under Putin, we are like an inscription on a fence!
    4. Alexander Dutov Offline Alexander Dutov
      Alexander Dutov (Alexander Dutov) 3 September 2022 15: 45
      0
      Troops required
    5. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 4 September 2022 10: 44
      0
      for the offensive, reserves of personnel are needed, as I understand it, they are not from the word at all, therefore, a trench war is going on all along the front and not only in the south, and this will continue until there is superiority in hp, it’s impossible to win with artillery alone
    6. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 5 September 2022 16: 53
      0
      Quote: steel maker
      Why if the bare steppe and total superiority? Nuclear power plants are shelled every day. Well, what is needed to attack and liberate our lands?

      Because the bare steppe, for both sides. We have VKS - they have satellites, AWACS in droves and high-precision weapons. PAR, grab his leg.
      In this situation, defense allows you to reduce losses until a way is invented to neutralize the problem (the Pope says that the 3rd world is now on). The real beginning will remove the ban on the destruction of AWACS and satellites.
      1. Anadyrean Offline Anadyrean
        Anadyrean (Hanson) 8 September 2022 12: 20
        0
        Looking at the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the thought arises - where are our "powerful and not inferior to the enemy" satellites? Blah blah....
        1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
          Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 9 September 2022 02: 36
          0
          Actually, we have a problem with satellites for the Moscow Region. They are few. They are imperfect. Anyone interested in this topic knows this.
  2. passing by Offline passing by
    passing by (passing by) 2 September 2022 19: 20
    +1
    the people of Urkain decided to arrange a "Hollywood offensive" in order to beg for money and weapons ... next in line is a similar one near Kharkov ... the meat has already been pulled off ...
  3. zuuukoo Offline zuuukoo
    zuuukoo (Sergei) 2 September 2022 19: 51
    0
    To be honest, it doesn’t look like a large-scale offensive from the word at all.
    Even if we assume that the losses are really 1200 killed and 48 tanks (I wouldn’t be surprised if ours were slightly added).
    If such losses forced the offensive to "choke", then they advanced there, excuse me, but 3 cripples on 4 bicycles.

    And the most interesting thing is whether it was just reconnaissance in force or, despite the mobilization, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are also very sad with their personnel.
    If this really was an "offensive", thoughts creep in that over the past six months they really have suffered monstrous losses.
    1. Bakht Offline Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 2 September 2022 21: 19
      0
      If such losses forced the offensive to "choke", then they advanced there, excuse me, but 3 cripples on 4 bicycles.

      According to the data to date, the loss of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is at least 2000 people, from 5 to 6 thousand wounded. Losses of equipment are in the tens. They talk about no less than 50 tanks.

      What losses must be for the offensive to bog down? And the command decided that it makes no sense to continue the offensive?

      For example. In World War II, losses of 15% for the Allies were considered unacceptable.
      1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
        rotkiv04 (Victor) 4 September 2022 17: 51
        0
        I read in one TG channel that 20 - "000" and 200 - "40" are unacceptable for them, this is about 000%, now they think that about 300% is "6", this is about 2, for them it is acceptable , so the attacks will continue
        1. Bakht Offline Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 4 September 2022 22: 17
          -2
          Do you count from the total number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?

          If 2% is 6000, then the number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is determined purely arithmetically. This is 300 people.
          If we assume that 60 is 000%, then the number is determined at 6 million people.
          There is information in the media about 700. Some balabols (like Arestovich) chatted about 000 million.

          The problem is that we do not count losses on the entire front, but on a local sector. Let's call it the Southern Front. And here the losses of personnel and equipment are significant.

          There was information that for the entire time of the NWO, Ukraine lost about 200 people. Even for an army of 000 million, this is 1%

          PS Necessary explanation. Why the British considered 15% unacceptable. This applied to bomber aircraft and "thousand Harris bombers" raids. 15% is a guaranteed death on the 7th sortie. That, in principle, was confirmed in practice. Very good film "Memphis Belle"
    2. Anatoly Porotnikov (Anatoly Porotnikov) 3 September 2022 13: 55
      +4
      And it’s not good to call a cat’s husband a “whale”.
  4. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
    Dart2027 2 September 2022 20: 14
    +3
    Confronting us, the enemy is extremely dangerous due to his high motivation

    Or just stuffed with special drugs.
  5. Andrey Zradinskiy (Andrey Zradinsky) 2 September 2022 21: 08
    -1
    Here is a photo of a burning "sunk" barge near the shore. Either the photo is fake .. or the author is not in the subject. 50 to 50. https://t.me/lostarmour/772
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  6. Akula Kharkiv 2 Offline Akula Kharkiv 2
    Akula Kharkiv 2 (Alik) 2 September 2022 21: 22
    -4
    the author often sensibly assesses the situation.
    however, I believe that this time the propagandists misled the author.

    regarding the special forces, there are rumors that Shoigu lost to Zolotov in hardware battles in the Kremlin, which is why the National Guard arose, which urgently needs to start being proud of something.
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 2 September 2022 22: 18
      +5
      Barges in the center of the reservoir, DRUNNED, so barges do not burn under water. The operation was successful, the first wave of capture was allowed to land, which immediately set in motion the main forces. The good news is that out of 320 credited, 280 were trained in England ... Here the victory is very significant in terms of quality ...
    2. kot711 Offline kot711
      kot711 (vov) 3 September 2022 10: 31
      0
      Rumors, is it roaming around your countryside? It is not difficult to verify that the nuclear power plant was guarded by the National Guard.
  7. Griffith Offline Griffith
    Griffith (Oleg) 3 September 2022 00: 20
    +5
    The essence of their motivation is the pumping of military drugs, frostbite with hands up to the elbows in blood, and big money to them or their families. That's all. Therefore, recycling to the ground will only help here. Or fear. Such non-humans have one drawback - this is a selfish interest in grandmothers and in their lives. And he is interrupted only by combat chemistry. By the way, I do not exclude that experiments with a biological bias are carried out on them at the same time. Since they clearly write that they are stupidly climbing to their full height.
  8. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 3 September 2022 04: 19
    +4
    The offensive is not very strong. The scale is not the same. And for reconnaissance in battle, there is a clear overlap in losses. (If Konashenkov is not lying) They rushed out of desperation .. If it is true that during the landing at the nuclear power plant, most of the dead were trained in arrogance, this pleases. - sharpened to disperse demonstrators and to fight the "internal enemy"
  9. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 3 September 2022 06: 11
    +4
    That's just about their "high motivation" the author can doubt. Most likely stuffed stuffed, under drugs and psychotropics ..
  10. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
    soloist2424 (Oleg) 3 September 2022 10: 14
    +1
    I wonder why Marzhetsky, even the unsuccessful actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, is still a minus for the Russian troops?
  11. Ingvar7 Offline Ingvar7
    Ingvar7 (Ingvar) 3 September 2022 10: 32
    +2
    The British foresaw everything, they could not lose. Most likely, they even pumped crests to a frostbitten state. What is the "ideological motivation" ...
  12. zuuukoo Offline zuuukoo
    zuuukoo (Sergei) 3 September 2022 10: 33
    +1
    Quote: Andrey Zradinskiy
    Here is a photo of a burning "sunk" barge near the shore. Either the photo is fake .. or the author is not in the subject. 50 to 50. https://t.me/lostarmour/772

    Judging by the same lostarmor, there were a lot of such barges (https://t.me/lostarmour/774 ).
    So in general, the presence of a burning one near the shore does not contradict the fact that 2 lie at the bottom.
    They could have embellished, but given that these are not particularly maneuverable targets, drowning looks quite likely.
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 3 September 2022 10: 44
      +1
      Replica. Helicopters worked on the barges in the center of a large reservoir, so they are praised. The Russian Guard cleared the first wave on high-speed boats up to 100 paratroopers.
      1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 3 September 2022 12: 38
        +2
        The Ukrainians have a different version of what happened: supposedly the barges were empty, to divert attention, the main group landed on several high-speed boats. The size of the whole group is about 60 people.
        1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 3 September 2022 16: 29
          -1
          Looks like you are distributing Ukrainian versions, a flag in your hands and an anchor in your ass ... If 140 paratroopers are determined, then they didn’t take it from the ceiling, but in your Ukrainian ones they would have printed 540 each for the joy of paper victory.
  13. Valentine Offline Valentine
    Valentine (Valentin) 3 September 2022 11: 17
    +1
    With you, Sergey, this "debriefing" is similar to the well-known saying of Yuri Olesha "not a day without a line", apparently the owners of this resource are very strict in this regard. And the Ukrainians made a remake of the "psychic attack" from the famous film "Chapaev" for their owners in the hope of at least some kind of "overcome", and nothing more.
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  15. Peace Peace. Offline Peace Peace.
    Peace Peace. (Tumar Tumar) 3 September 2022 18: 44
    +2
    "Motivation" was psychotropic. I saw how in one republic, seemingly ordinary people, but who had been a bit involved in politics after a "trip" for another month to the West, came with completely different people. "Motivated", always very cheerful, not tired, financially independent like "we'll buy everything", absolutely believing in their victory and fiercely inhumanly hating their enemies by people. Campaign "guys" were in the same kitchen where they cook this "lighter" for everyone.
  16. Kon1916 Offline Kon1916
    Kon1916 (Harry) 3 September 2022 19: 59
    +1
    This means that as long as there is at least someone alive in Ukraine, Russia will not be safe.
  17. TermNachTer Offline TermNachTer
    TermNachTer (Nikolai) 4 September 2022 08: 40
    -1
    The author said a lot of nonsense, but I want to explain only one thing. Since I have been to Energodar several times, I passed by when the "meteors" were still walking. I once visited the first perimeter of the nuclear power plant, they didn’t let me go further. So, it is impossible to take the Zaporizhzhya NPP with the help of 60 (600) good soldiers if there is no heavy weapons, and there were none. Concrete fences about 4 meters high and about a meter thick were built under the Union. The territory of the station is huge, each power unit is a separate structure, with very strong walls, even if it was possible to break through three strong, high walls, in front of which there is a pre-zone, an open area, with rows of barbed wire. I am more than sure that when planning the operation, NPP workers (security, safety) were involved, who gave the necessary advice. Why they did it - I do not know, there was not even a minimal chance.
  18. Indifferent Offline Indifferent
    Indifferent 4 September 2022 17: 25
    0
    And they tell me that in the Crimea for a week now the roads have been "rattling" from heavy equipment. And all this moves to the North. Probably not just like that! So the blow is being prepared and one day it will be!
  19. Panzer1962 Offline Panzer1962
    Panzer1962 (Panzer1962) 5 September 2022 10: 19
    +2
    The staff is not motivated, but misinformed. Firstly, units were brought into battle, deployed not from near Kharkov or Slavyansk, but from Transcarpathia, brainwashed about "peremogs" and the planned "alignment" of the front. Secondly, units trained abroad are brought into battle with the instilled conviction that they are supermen. Thirdly, all these units are brainwashed, that our army is exhausted, that it is barely alive and that the last effort is needed to start a victorious campaign against the Crimea and Moscow. Fourthly, the personnel are tirelessly inspired that the West is about to deliver a wunberwafer, that is, a miracle weapon that will immediately nullify our army.
    And there is nothing surprising in such zombification, remember the blind faith of the Germans in the inevitable defeat of the Red Army, even when we were already standing on the Oder. Neuro-Linguistic Programming is doing its job.
  20. Panzer1962 Offline Panzer1962
    Panzer1962 (Panzer1962) 5 September 2022 11: 00
    0
    And I completely agree that neuro-linguistic programming is complemented by psychotropic programming.
  21. Sergey Kuzmin Offline Sergey Kuzmin
    Sergey Kuzmin (Sergei) 5 September 2022 11: 46
    0
    The enemy is fierce. And this enemy - we are "in the negative": the same Russians and Ukrainians, but indoctrinated by the ideas of Nazism and pumped up with Russophobic propaganda, while being under direct external command from the Pentagon. Terrible mix.

    therefore, the most bitter should be sent to Bandera, so that they can calm down there forever and do not interfere with the rest of normal Ukrainians and Russians living in peace and harmony.
  22. Anadyrean Offline Anadyrean
    Anadyrean (Hanson) 8 September 2022 12: 15
    0
    Success turns off the brain. Someone in the General Staff forgot about this. Inspired by success, they forgot that we were fighting soldiers like ourselves. Which is commanded by NATO. Of course, we will correct mistakes and grind everyone and everything, but we cannot relax.