All MS-21 liners will lose American engines

Import substitution in the Russian aviation industry has already reached certified aircraft. It turned out that soon all existing and under construction MC-21-300 liners may lose American Pratt & Whitney PW1400G (PW1428G) engines. The aircraft will be converted into MS-21-310, which will be equipped with Russian PD-14 power units manufactured by UEC-Perm Motors JSC. On August 10, the specialized information resource informed the public about this. FrequentFlyers.

The publication noted that at first the replacement of aircraft engines will affect the first test prototype with tail number 73051, released six years ago. The aircraft will make a series of flights with PD-14s, after which the aircraft engines will probably be replaced with the remaining MS-21-300s. Further production of medium-haul narrow-body airliners of the MS-21-300 series is not planned to stop dependence on foreign supplies.

It was noted that the PW1400G and PD-14 power units are not interchangeable. American and Russian aircraft engines differ in size, mountings, power and control systems, so a significant amount of rework will be necessary.

As for the PW1400G, in 2019, 21 such aircraft engines were ordered for the MS-300-40, which were supposed to arrive before the end of 2023. Moreover, they promised to bring 20 power units in 2022, but the deliveries were canceled due to anti-Russian restrictions. The sanctions also affected the timing of the delivery of the liners themselves to customers. For example, in 2022 Rossiya Airlines expected to receive six MS-21-300 units.

At the same time, the MS-21-310 liner has not yet been certified and only one aircraft with tail number 14, which recently made its 73055th test flight, is equipped with PD-21 aircraft engines. Since there will soon be two MS-310-250s, the certification process will speed up. The planes will have to make about XNUMX test flights on a pair, summed up the media.
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  1. Vova Zhelyabov Offline Vova Zhelyabov
    Vova Zhelyabov (Vova Zhelyabov) 11 August 2022 18: 26
    Rose-colored glasses fell to the floor. The world was dark and gloomy.
    1. Yaroslav K. Offline Yaroslav K.
      Yaroslav K. (Yaroslav K.) 11 August 2022 20: 17
      In general, no one had any illusions about them. It has long been known that we should not expect anything good from the hegemon)). Zapadla on zapadle and zapadloy drives. But when they themselves almost refused, then you can deprive)). The main thing is to formulate the title correctly in the press.
  2. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 11 August 2022 18: 59
    American and Russian aircraft engines differ in size, mounts, power and control systems, so a significant amount of rework will be necessary

    With such a huge investment of funds and labor, it is better to think over everything. To create a PD-14 with the possibility of interchanging the engine of an American company (these engines are put on a huge fleet of aircraft) would open up a huge sales market, and the alterations of our aircraft were reduced. would ... Yes, and elementary copying would not hurt to reduce the time and costs of creating a replacement engine for the MS-21. For the future, it is necessary to create new engines with better characteristics, but this is longer and more expensive .... It seems that the strategists of our military-industrial complex are not the same ...
    1. Pavel N Offline Pavel N
      Pavel N (Paul) 11 August 2022 21: 36
      The PD-14 engine has already been created, but it is impossible to copy the most technologically complex device (aircraft engine)
      1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 11 August 2022 22: 18
        Replica. Of course, it will not be possible to copy completely, but the overall weight, power characteristics, power supply, etc. can be adjusted for replacement ..., ...
        1. Sidor Bodrov Offline Sidor Bodrov
          Sidor Bodrov 12 August 2022 12: 35
          Yes, it would be very valuable to initially adjust the PD-14 to the possibility of replacing the PW. Surely our engine is cheaper and more preferable to operate. And instead of puffing and inventing the MS-21 310, continue to produce the 300s. And PD-14, as a universal one, should be offered for export. Our "effective" managers in the old fashioned way are imprisoned for bribes - easy loot from competitors.
  3. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 11 August 2022 20: 03
    Well, they will lose sometime ...
    it was clear for a long time, but ... someone brought it in ...
    In general, a lot of redoing and redoing
  4. Demonlivi Offline Demonlivi
    Demonlivi (Dima) 11 August 2022 20: 52
    So you need to ban all foreign aircraft! Boeings and Airbuses! And foreign cars and computers, iPhones! And who in the government rides a Maybach and a limousine! They need to start! They should set an example and transfer to the Volga!;)
    1. Sidor Bodrov Offline Sidor Bodrov
      Sidor Bodrov 12 August 2022 12: 42
      Yes, you need to start with them. But it is not necessary to replant them. It is necessary to introduce a progressive personal income tax, for example, as in China:
      Up to 1500 yuan (15 thousand rubles) per month - 3%
      From 1500 to 4500 (up to 45 thousand rubles) per month - 10%
      From 4500 to 9000 (up to 90 thousand rubles) per month - 20%
      From 9000 to 35000 (up to 350 thousand) per month - 25%
      From 35000 to 55000 (up to 550 thousand) - 30%
      From 55000 to 80000 (up to 800 thousand) - 35%
      More than 80000 (more than 800 thousand rubles per month) - 45%
      - There is something to support the national economy.
    2. Ingvar7 Offline Ingvar7
      Ingvar7 (Ingvar Miller) 12 August 2022 12: 48
      For this, Joseph must be resurrected.
  5. Rubicon Offline Rubicon
    Rubicon 11 August 2022 21: 02
    In ten years, this mese21 will receive a certificate
    1. nov_tech.vrn Offline nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn (Michael) 12 August 2022 09: 17
      you will be buried earlier
  6. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 11 August 2022 21: 07
    that is, we must again thank the West for correcting the mistakes (with sanctions) of the liberal bureaucrats of the Russian Federation, who stuffed MS21 and ssd with 100 Western kits. when will the Tsar learn to select personnel in 20 years?
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 11 August 2022 21: 47
      And what can be demanded of the Tsar, he himself comes from Eltsin’s nest and is the first liberal in Russia to the marrow of his bones, and his actions and decisions constantly confirm this
    2. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 11 August 2022 22: 30
      It is common for a person to follow the easiest path, if it is possible to slip a foreign product with labels re-glued and get it, as for his product without big expenses, and everything in his pocket, so who will refuse. if there is no supervision ... In Russia, the permissibility of stealing is prohibitive, they plant objectionable people who do not fit into the trend ... That's why the Superjet is like that and others. Today in the Russian Federation a lot needs to be changed, as in a joke: everything in a brothel must be changed, both girls and a brothel ... (ministers) ...
      1. Benjamin Offline Benjamin
        Benjamin (Benjamin) 12 August 2022 11: 37
        And who appoints a brothel?
    3. Benjamin Offline Benjamin
      Benjamin (Benjamin) 12 August 2022 11: 38
      For 25, maybe in 10 years it will gain?
  7. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 12 August 2022 01: 02
    Akulov (Yeltsin's son-in-law), Khristenko (the minister oversaw the aircraft industry) these are the gravediggers of our aircraft industry. Thanks to them, everything that our country created was successfully destroyed.
  8. Benjamin Offline Benjamin
    Benjamin (Benjamin) 12 August 2022 11: 35
    More sanctions - stronger Motherland!
    1. Vova Zhelyabov Offline Vova Zhelyabov
      Vova Zhelyabov (Vova Zhelyabov) 12 August 2022 16: 49
      Paradoxical, but true.
  9. Spasatel Offline Spasatel
    Spasatel 12 August 2022 14: 37
    All MS-21 liners will lose American engines

    Is it a surprise? The stranger jumped out?
    Did Putin and Deniska Manturov not expect this dirty trick?
    1. Vova Zhelyabov Offline Vova Zhelyabov
      Vova Zhelyabov (Vova Zhelyabov) 12 August 2022 16: 16
      Better later. than the miserable and insignificant death of Antonov.
    2. Vova Zhelyabov Offline Vova Zhelyabov
      Vova Zhelyabov (Vova Zhelyabov) 12 August 2022 18: 53
      The West did not expect to receive a retaliatory blow to the jaw. Planes will fly even if the West has to pay an astronomical price for Russian coal and grain.
  10. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 12 August 2022 16: 55
    This is the fruit of a pullback economy. the leadership of Rostec became billionaires, the purchase of units greatly helped this. therefore, for 5-7 years they slowed down the production of their own engines. They still explain that they sought to participate in the international division of labor. The result, albeit not the main one, would be the construction of dachas in the Mediterranean.
    1. Vova Zhelyabov Offline Vova Zhelyabov
      Vova Zhelyabov (Vova Zhelyabov) 12 August 2022 17: 21
      Russia has no other Rostec for you.
  11. Velmi Shin Offline Velmi Shin
    Velmi Shin (Velmi Shin) 12 August 2022 20: 10
    But what about the statement at the meeting of the State Duma of the Russian Federation that PD-14 will be imported only in 2024? There is no such Russian engine yet! Again, wishful thinking is presented as reality.
  12. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 31 August 2022 07: 02
    More precisely, otherwise, American engines will lose all MS-21 liners.
  13. wladimirjankov Offline wladimirjankov
    wladimirjankov (Vladimir Yankov) 2 September 2022 13: 10
    Our "far-sighted" top managers from Rostec and Deputy Prime Minister Manturov gave priority in certification to MS-21-300, and now we are paying for this. Why was the PD-14 created in order to buy American engines and put them on our aircraft? And now, when the MS-21-310 is desperately needed, it is still unclear how long it will take to be certified and put into series.
  14. yakisam Offline yakisam
    yakisam (Alexander) 6 September 2022 00: 46
    Yes, very suggestive
    18 years of "development" of the PD-14 engine, hundreds of billions of dough
    at the same time, for all 20 years, the MS-21 aircraft was developed in parallel with it, hundreds of billions of dough
    which is SPECIALLY designed for imported engines
    at the same time, according to all the characteristics of the PD-14, it is approximately analogous to the PS-90 (except for the degree of bypass)
    which has been on the assembly line since 1987, but no - the "Soviet backward design" must be destroyed
    I emphasize - on the CONVEYOR, and not "in production", that is, in the assembly by the piece
    that is, our government, "successful managers" of airlines and "patriotic" bankers
    together for 25 years they have been specifically sending all the people's money for the purchase of imported aircraft
    and now they tell us tales about how their "newest" PS-14 will start flying under the wing of the "newest" MS-21
    probably in 19 copies of engines that have been produced to date?
    and which "on paper" are indicated as "more economical than competitors" and "quieter by 20 dB"
    but in fact they simply do not exist as serial equipment ....
    and all these 20 years for these trillions of dough, people like me went to jail on the slightest suspicion of tax evasion or whatever ....
    whose country is this? Ukraine maybe?