During the construction of the "USSR 2.0" Russia will have to follow the "Chinese path"


This publication is the second in cycle about how Russia, if not to defeat the collective West in a new iteration of the Cold War, then at least not to lose. In it, we will "dotted" walk through the economy and issues of state building, and in the third - how it is possible and necessary to resist the NATO bloc, starting to throw it away from our borders.


"USSR-2"


The fact that the modern Russian Federation is not able to defeat the united West alone with its colossal military-industrial power, unfortunately, does not cause much doubt.

We will not drag out a protracted war of attrition with the NATO bloc, even in an indirect form, as is currently happening in Ukraine. So far, the RF Armed Forces are fighting on Soviet stocks, but they are not unlimited. With the mass production of the latest models of combat equipment, alas, not everything is as good as we would like. We did not see hundreds of Armats near Kyiv, 100% brand new Russian drones with domestic engines and electronics do not circle in the sky over the Donbass. Therefore, those who naively believe that time is working for us and with the speedy end of the conflict in Ukraine by defeating the criminal Zelensky regime, they are very seriously mistaken. Dangerously deluded.

We also have to admit that the Russian economy alone will not be able to withstand the confrontation with the collective West. Subject to more than 10000 sanctions restrictions, it will objectively sag steadily. Due to its large volume and the country's self-sufficiency in all natural resources, a total collapse will not occur, but the "Iranian scenario" of further life under Western sanctions is something that you need to be mentally prepared for.

There is only one solution in sight - the Russian economy should immediately begin to expand, absorbing new markets, production capacities, resources, human capital, etc. This is necessary to build complete self-sufficiency in the form of autarky, to ensure economic parity with the collective West. It is a question of the survival of our country. There is nothing special to invent anew here, everything has long been invented for us.

The question of recreating the "USSR-2" in one form or another lies on the surface, and the day before it was voiced by State Duma deputy Mikhail Sheremet:

The existence of the USSR held back NATO in its quest to enslave and colonize the entire world. I consider it expedient to return to the collective system of voluntary association of sovereign states into one militarypolitical and an economic bloc capable of effectively resisting Western expansion and aggression. The prototype of the new confederation could be the great and mighty USSR.

So, we have come to the conclusion that the re-creation of a federal/confederal union on the ruins of the USSR, and even beyond its borders, in fact, has no alternative if we want our country to survive and rise to a real, and not imaginary, superpower status. But how to do it and on what grounds?

State capitalism or socialism?


Everyone who is at least a little theoretically savvy understands that, yes, the economy is the basis of everything, but on it alone, and on good wishes, you will not go far. After all, we have both the Eurasian Economic Union and the Union State of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus, and what? Everyone pulls the blanket in his direction, thinking only about his own interest, and not about the public. And the competing European Union turned out to be that still loose formation.

While everything was good, all its members liked everything for the time being. As the winds of change blew, Great Britain was the first to jump out of the EU and now, together with the United States, is doing everything to squander the economy of its yesterday's allies from the continent. Within the European Union itself, everyone has already quarreled over different approaches to the interpretation of “democratic values” and Russian oil and gas. The fate of this association is now in question, since there is a high risk that most of its members will be more comfortable in their "national apartments".

That is, the economy is the basis, but without a superstructure in the form of an ideology that holds everything together, the economy alone will not be enough. The USSR-2 will also need its own ideology, but what kind?

In fact, you will have to choose from only two options - capitalism and socialism. There is no third. The cynicism of the situation lies in the fact that in Russia the state ideology is in principle prohibited at the level of the “Yeltsin” Constitution, which was deliberately done in order to finish off the USSR without giving it any chance for revival. By the way, during the 2020 amendments, for some reason, this paragraph was not adjusted. However, time puts everything in its place.

On October 21, 2021, President Vladimir Putin, speaking at a meeting of the Valdai Club, personally admitted that modern Russian “wild capitalism” has exhausted itself:

Everyone says that the existing model of capitalism, which is today the basis of the social structure in the vast majority of countries, has exhausted itself. Within its framework, there is no way out of the tangle of increasingly intricate contradictions.

In fact, there is a way out of the capitalist crisis, and there is only one way out - the World War. And it, as we can state, has already begun. Who would have thought?

This indisputable fact was stated by the head of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Gennady Zyuganov, who, at a meeting between President Putin and the leaders of party factions in the State Duma on July 10, 2022, stated the following verbatim:

Capitalism always gives rise to Nazism, fascism and Banderaism, and there is no one to defeat it except socialism. Therefore, I expect that in your next speech you will set socialist tasks. Here Volodin sits next to him and smiles, he already likes this idea.


To this our Vladimir Vladimirovich replied as follows:

As far as the socialist idea is concerned, there is nothing wrong with it. The issue of filling: what to fill, especially in the economic sphere. In some countries, there is content, it is intertwined with market forms of regulation. Works quite effectively. Must watch. As for the participation of the state, this is, as it were, a dispute, as a rule. Where, to what extent the state should participate, in what form. Well, we will all, of course, decide this in the course of discussions, in the course of disputes. With the understanding that the main interests - people, the interests of the country - we will find these outcomes.

So what do we see? The situation has degraded to such a level that even in the "top" they began to admit in plain text that the country is on the wrong course. However, alas, it is not necessary to seriously believe in a "revolution from above", that the bees themselves will refuse honey and return the once public property to the people.

The most realistic is the transition from the current capitalist not to the Soviet socialist one, which will entail a new redistribution of property and more bloodshed, but to the Chinese economic model, that is, the construction of a socially oriented state capitalism, which can later develop into full-fledged socialism. Someday.

This, of course, is a half-measure, but when building forecasts and plans, it is necessary to proceed from existing realities, and not fantasies and good wishes. The Chinese way has already proved its effectiveness, allowing Beijing to build the world's second economy in a few decades. Taking into account our specifics, this experience can also be applied in building an integration project in the post-Soviet space.
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  1. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 10 August 2022 12: 55
    0
    Great job! Thank you.
    1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
      Krapilin (Victor) 10 August 2022 21: 47
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      Dear Morey Borey (Morey Borey)

      And what is the "distinction" of this "analytical" opus?

      Only an anti-Russian person can “advise” Russia to be guided by Chinese, Marxist or other patterns, humiliating with these tips the entire multinational self-sufficient Russian civilization, which has a centuries-old original history.
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 August 2022 15: 09
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        It was the Marxist templates that gave Russian civilization in the 20th century a powerful guide to the future, allowed to raise the country, survive in a terrible war and accomplish glorious feats of world significance, rise to the level of a superpower.
        After the abdication of the king and the failure of the interim government, the country was ready to sink into oblivion
        1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
          Krapilin (Victor) 11 August 2022 16: 50
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          Dear Alexey Davydov (Alexey)!

          Russian civilization, thanks to Marxist patterns, descended into chaos, blood, devastation and moral degradation, for example, in the form of "family members of the enemies of the people" with the requirement for children to abandon their parents.

          Thanks to Marxist templates, the Russian Empire turned from a real superpower into a utopia that fooled millions of people with nonsense about building a communist paradise on the whole earth by the method of world revolution.

          Thanks to Marxist stereotypes, the communist Yeltsin dispersed the CPSU by his decree and not one of the millions of communists took up arms to defend the USSR.

          Thanks to Marxist templates, the USSR itself has sunk into oblivion, but into the abyss of lies, and now blood flows like rivers around the entire perimeter of the former Union.

          Not thanks to Marxist stereotypes, but in spite of them, Russian civilization, and not the “Soviet community,” survived the Great Patriotic War.

          By the way, Karl Marx fiercely hated Russians and the Russian World.
          And in this hatred for Russians is your "Marxist landmark"?
  2. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 10 August 2022 13: 19
    +4
    The question of where to sail is correctly raised, for the old wisdom says: "A ship without a goal has no fair wind." Russia, unlike the West, is a communal state in history, so look for a middle ground between the socialist and individual capitalist approaches in proportions. You always need to enter a new life with new modern ideas and methods, the old has gone to the old, there is never a return ... The pseudo-socialism of the USSR with nomenclature feudalism is not an example, so Zyuganov can "rest" ... Where are our philosophers and sociologists, you can’t hear , except for old greasy ideas and utter nonsense about sea and land empires ...
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 August 2022 14: 55
      +3
      You always need to enter a new life with new modern ideas and methods, the old has gone to the old, there is never a return ... The pseudo-socialism of the USSR with nomenclature feudalism is not an example, so Zyuganov can "rest"

      It is useful to separate the errors in the implementation of ideas, which can be infinitely many, from these ideas themselves, which have been honed over the centuries, and not be scattered by the last. The mistakes of the USSR and the CPSU were diligently studied in China. There are articles about this in this edition.
      https://topcor.ru/21703-konchim-kak-sovety-kitajcy-vyuchili-uroki-sssr.html
      https://topcor.ru/20670-sto-let-oshibok-i-pobed-kompartija-kitaja-smogla-to-chto-ne-udalos-sssr.html
      You just need to learn from the mistakes and move on.
      1. Ksv Offline Ksv
        Ksv (Sergei) 11 August 2022 21: 57
        0
        China relies on its thousand-year history and its mentality! We need to do the same, we are in no way inferior to China. You must be able to look into the depths of centuries, into the past and find, remember your Essence for the basis of development!
        All the philosophers and thinkers have disappeared somewhere, surely they will have to do everything themselves ...
  3. monarchist Online monarchist
    monarchist (Foma) 10 August 2022 13: 21
    -2
    nado postroit RI 2.0 legitimnyj
    Ruskij imperator ziwet naprestol jego nada priglasit
    state ideologia jest
    1, Rossija 3RIM = gospod mira ,tolko u RF Sarmat est kto ne podczinitsa tego unicztozim .
    2. Samoderzawie prawoslawe narodnost.
    3. bej Abramowiczej spasaj Rossju.
    W sowremennom welikoruskom obszczestwe deficyt jastrebow tj woinstwennych welikoderzawnych
    imperialistow
    1. GIS Offline GIS
      GIS (Ildus) 11 August 2022 10: 32
      +1
      nope, I don’t agree with you here. except for point 3 - it’s at the expense of all sorts of parasites like the Abramovichs and other "owners of steamships" (like a mermaid or nmlk) that we need to build our future. I'm not talking about reprivatization - you can't turn the stuffing back, but so that they would "voluntarily" raise the country (and free of charge, patrons are the same)))) I agree
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 13: 14
        -2
        Gis, can it be easier to calculate how many grandmothers are transferred to the Russian budget in the form of taxes by the people you listed and you?
        1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 11 August 2022 20: 17
          0
          (Ignatov) Replica. So they almost all went offshore and pay zero taxes, but they take profits out of Russia, which you dearest are raving about ... That's why the West did not touch these London and other places of residents with billions of stolen money - this is how English courts define our billionaires . Why is it so, the court in England between Berezovsky and Abramovich revealed all the scams and other crimes, for which Berezovsky was killed by his own. An Israeli guard is involved, who was the first to "find" the corpse and the scarf with which B. Berezovsky "choked himself" ..
          1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 21: 36
            0
            Vladimir, explain what offshores are and why they are created.
          2. GIS Offline GIS
            GIS (Ildus) 12 August 2022 09: 29
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            nuuu, it's not yet "evening" and the law on the expropriation of this money has long been ready. I think within a few years we will see how they part with them ... albeit forcibly
        2. GIS Offline GIS
          GIS (Ildus) 12 August 2022 09: 28
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          Oleg, I agree with Vladimir's post.
          in terms of taxes, it is clear: I personally pay less in total terms, and there are millions of citizens of our country like me. but in % ... here your question has ripened "what is an offshore" ... there are all the benefits for taxes and for withdrawing amounts from the country. and it is this (the withdrawal of funds for a beautiful life, and not for the development of industries in our country) that depresses me the most. that is why I consider them parasites. they did not create these factories, but simply "managed to hurry up in time." I often see factories (or rather, what is left), I hear and see how the honorary workers of these factories live, their pensions, how it all fell apart ...
          and now about grandmas: if all the profits of enterprises (at the disposal of those persons) were not used for yachts and castles with apartments in London, but for the development of the country (this was probably the case in the USSR, you can challenge it), then for sure you would not have questions about who paid how much in taxes
          1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 12 August 2022 20: 50
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            GIS, for me, a simple worker, troubles with offshore companies and to this day a dark forest. But I do not think that money is transferred offshore for the sole purpose of a beautiful life. It's just stupid and too obvious. Here, it seems to me, the "leaving" offshore is no longer associated with ingenious and, moreover, legal schemes not for complete avoidance of taxation, but for the use of preferential rates for doing business with a minimum percentage of income. For example, any person founded his own business - an enterprise for the production of stools. Here, incompetent comrades will immediately ask - where did you get the money, stole it? They will not ask in which bank a person took a loan, which in itself is legal, and this is called initial capital. And the bank just won't give you the money. You need a plan, a place of production, guarantees for the return of the loan, and even with interest, and much more. There is also an indulgence when it is given for a period of three to five years, when taxes are not levied at all. So it was with me when I created my "hacienda * count in an open field. I grew cucumbers, tomatoes, potatoes. The gain from such a production is a penny, but it takes a lot of work. In short, not knowing how everything will be later, I just decided to take the matter "on the navel." And three years later I realized that my enterprise was unprofitable.I didn’t pay taxes while I was on grace time.But after this exemption (time for development), taking into account taxes, the idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbwith the hacienda and earning a lot of money turned out to be, to put it mildly, unprofitable. "Yes, and the age is already the same when construction began. I was a little off the mark. Well, recalling the dashing nineties, we remember how such small-scale production of everything and anything was organized and how the tax and plus brothers mocked novice entrepreneurs. Very many did not live to see today The first "option" to save at least part of the income was offered by local non-foreign criminals through the notorious roofs, which over time also became an unbearable burden.then foreigners already offered their services. Creation of offshore zones. Any citizen has the right to contribute his money to any foreign company or create his own while having preferential tax obligations. Nothing personal - business.
            Well, I repeat, all these schemes are not entirely clear to me, maybe I'm mistaken in something, so I ask you not to throw slippers.
  4. zuuukoo Offline zuuukoo
    zuuukoo (Sergei) 10 August 2022 13: 26
    +1
    We started for health. From an objective assessment of the current situation and prospects.
    Finished for peace. Dreams of the USSR 2.0.

    Well, the system will change from capitalism to socialism. AND? How will this affect isolation from technology goods, capital and markets?
    Or should everyone "cross themselves" into socialism and all problems will be solved immediately?

    By the way, since we are talking about expansion and expansion to the USSR 2.0, will someone explain why, for example, Kazakhstan?
    Everything is fine with him now due to the transfer of a bunch of Russian production and money. Well, the cream from imports, some of which is now going through them.
    Or Mongolia, which is practically "bought" by China, where will it go? And most importantly why? Sharing the burden of sanctions? :)
    And so on almost every state-woo from the former USSR.

    Z. Y. : The "Chinese" way is not socialism, but a huge domestic market + cheap labor. In this situation, they could have at least a democracy, at least a monarchy, at least an oligarchy. The result would be about the same as now.
    1. monarchist Online monarchist
      monarchist (Foma) 10 August 2022 14: 24
      -1
      woprosdostupa k technologii polozeno reszit razwedke. u naselenja turkestana RI ne ssprasziwala soglasja siloj w sostaw mperii wkluczila moguczej RF
  5. Alex D Online Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 10 August 2022 13: 26
    +7
    An anti-Western course should be written in the Constitution. And for this you need to resolve the ideology.
    It was necessary to create this cap. system - received only distortions in all directions. Especially in housing and communal services and healthcare.
    1. monarchist Online monarchist
      monarchist (Foma) 10 August 2022 14: 46
      0
      soglasen ne nado izobretat welocipeda woznowit SOJUZ RUSSKOWO NARODA prinjat jego ideologiu wse 'drugie zapretit strict nakazat komunistow i zapadnikow liberastow sodomitow nawiselicu .muzcziny wojennoobowjazany.
      dla zenszczin wwesti demograficznuju powinnost wsem zenszczinom wozrasta 20-40 let zakonom polozeno rodit detej od otcow Welikorusow skolko RF nuzno
      1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
        k7k8 (vic) 11 August 2022 13: 53
        0
        Thin none monarchists went. They don't even have 1 euro ruble (or they're stingy) for Russian keyboard stickers. And everything is there - they are trying to teach everyone and everything.
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 13: 16
      0
      Do not touch our Constitution, you can rape yours!
    3. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 August 2022 18: 20
      0
      For this purpose, the Union was destroyed and capitalism was imposed on Russia. States removed geopolitical competitor
  6. monarchist Online monarchist
    monarchist (Foma) 10 August 2022 14: 03
    -1
    postroit RI 2.0 Legitimnego Imperatora Wszechrosji na prestol priglasit komunistow i zapadnikow liberalow strict
    nakazat kitajskaja ekonomiczeskaja model efektiwna wne zawisimosti od formy prawlenja w monarchii srabotajet
  7. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 August 2022 14: 35
    +6
    Well done Author. Excellent. However, there will be resistance and attempts to "lead and turn into a dead end" along this path. The "fifth column" of the States and the Central Bank subordinate to them have not disappeared yet.
    Also, do not forget that Russia is now in Ukraine under the threat of being drawn into a war with NATO - at any time when the US or domestic destructive forces need it.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 August 2022 20: 31
      +2
      I'll add my two cents to the conversation about nothing.
      Dear Alexey writes that - ... do not forget that Russia is now in Ukraine under the threat of being drawn into a war with NATO - at any time when the United States or domestic destructive forces need it.
      Aleksey, and the ultimatum of our NATO president about returning to the old borders and not expanding to our borders, in your opinion, is an expression of the destructive forces headed by our president? Or do you think or are you sure that Ukraine is the ultimate goal? Or do you not understand the true meaning of the word - ultimatum? I will explain - Either you surrender - unconditional surrender, or you will be completely destroyed. Or do you and many of those present here do not know that Russia is a nuclear power that can turn the entire collective West and at least ten Americas into ashes within an hour?
      It seems to me that many of those present here do not take seriously either the potential of our state - in everything, or the potential of the leadership of our country. They are sure that - well, Russia will fool around under the power of the West, at the end of the OSCE .... it will give up all its positions and crawl back into its lair and everything will return to normal - the discontent of the population, the revolution, the civil war, the division of the country into small " principalities" and as a result, the state of Russia will disappear forever from the map of the world.
      If they really think so or are sure of it, then I will remind these people of the words of our president - Why does Russia need a world in which there will be no Russia?
      And this can only mean one thing - Russia will never again allow anyone to wipe their feet on themselves!
      1. Ten canarias Offline Ten canarias
        Ten canarias (Ten Canarias) 10 August 2022 21: 43
        -1
        Not "Give up", but "Surrender"! Such illiteracy is strange for a person who writes about global problems.
        1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 13: 48
          +1
          Thank you, of course, for pricking me with spelling, but at your suggestion - about global problems, I can also prick you - if the question is about global problems, is it so important in syntax if it sounds that Russia is sending to ... the collective West and America and is written "on" together or separately?
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      2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 August 2022 21: 48
        0
        Why did you suddenly decide that a visitor was meant by destructive forces? From what the hell? The "fifth column" of the States was meant - this seems to be understandable, without explanation.
        According to the Ultimatum - in general it is difficult to understand you. Has anyone on our side officially taken action to force the West to comply with it? Maybe I missed something, but they "sort of" forgot about it in official messages. There were no threats from our side. The consequences are not visible. If you consider our NWO to be its consequences for the West, then the goals of the NWO declared by the President do not contain a word about the Ultimatum. As far as I remember them.
        Faith in the potential of the state? The main thing is that the leadership should have this faith.
        The phrase "Why does Russia need a world in which there will be no Russia" - many agree with it, and so do I, but this is a land where you should not be. Because weapons must be used or displayed to achieve victory over the enemy, and not when all is lost.
        And if we are discussing all this - a question for you - who recently wrote to me in response that we have no enemies, but (at the suggestion of the President) only partners? How to link these words of yours?
        1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 03: 12
          0
          Well, first of all, our proposals were dubbed in the West as an ultimatum, which in principle is true. So these proposals were taken as an ultimatum and, as before, this is an ultimatum specifically for Putin. They have Russia, represented by Putin, to blame for everything.
          How to link? Very simple. As long as our president calls the West and America partners, then they are partners, no matter what they are for me, you are enemies. Officially, the president will call them enemies, which means they will officially become enemies for all of us. Don't put the cart before the horse at the wrong time.
          About the edge. The edge is either there or it isn't. Events at the suggestion of the author do not give Russia the choice to apply it or not. If there is a threat to the security of the country (the enemies have not reached the point of how it will end, which is the edge), then I am sure that this weapon will be used. Do you think differently?
  8. Sergei Fonov Offline Sergei Fonov
    Sergei Fonov (sergey fonov) 10 August 2022 15: 08
    +1
    What Sheremet proposes has been done for a long time, but the truth is that they take money from Russia with pleasure, hoping that they won’t have to return it, but when it comes to real steps towards unification, it turns out that they are supporters of non-alignment, and are in favor neutrality, that is, they want to fuck from everyone, and not be obliged to anyone.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 August 2022 15: 42
      +1
      Therefore, a real lasting union can only be built on the basis of building a common future. An analogue from everyday life is the family.
      For example, the world socialist system with the Warsaw Pact, building a just society on Earth, was (ideally) at the same time a road to this common future and a system protecting its countries from external economic envy, threats and ideology. It is for this reason that China does not part with the ideal goal of building communism - this is the whole point of unification, movement and development. Basically the meaning of life
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 13: 55
        0
        The goal is to build a bright future in the image of communism ... Or maybe, just to stop this communist crap, you Alexey will tell everyone here what communism really is and its priorities and everything connected with it for ordinary people and close this stupid topic forever.
        1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 14: 25
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          The goal is to build a bright future in the image of communism ... Or maybe, just to stop this communist crap, you Alexey will tell everyone here what communism really is and its priorities and everything connected with it for ordinary people and close this stupid topic forever.
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        3. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 August 2022 14: 34
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          I will try to explain the essence of the differences between the capitalist and communist approaches to building the society of the future - as I understand it.
          The capitalist approach leaves the human personality untouched with all its shortcomings and creates external restrictions for it (laws, rules, financial mechanisms), forcing the individual to behave rationally in relation to society.
          Communist - educates a creative person in the conditions of moral coordinates in order to understand what is useful and necessary, and to form these restrictions for herself in her free actions according to the principle “freedom is a conscious necessity”.
          In the limit:
          the first will eventually turn life into a concentration camp entangled in barbed wire (which may be digital) with stupid embittered prisoners, until such a society destroys itself in any way at hand
          the second will form a free society of new, positive people leading humanity up the ladder of development.
          I will add that in capitalism everything is bought and sold. Morality remains irrelevant.
          In communism, morality is an integral part of the progressive process of development of society and man. I see no obstacles (discarding the negative part of the legacy of the USSR as unnecessary now) for participating in this process of faith in God, since their moral requirements for a person practically coincide
          1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 21: 52
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            I knew that you absolutely do not know what the communist system of social control is. It's easier for a simple layman to hammer a bright future into their heads - communism in which everything is free. Well, not even a hint about tatal control. So if you advocate communism like that, read the specialized literature and find out what it really is, and not what you imagine.
            1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
              Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 12 August 2022 12: 04
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              Well, not even a hint about tatal control.

              And where did you find control in communism (after all, we are talking about it)? It won't be very, very soon, and then people will be raised differently. Their self-control will be quite enough. That's to get there (only possible - evolutionary way) really needs control. The people - over the country's management system and the economy. Otherwise, the country will be ruined. Now
              1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 12 August 2022 21: 05
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                Alexey, stop, and who will bring up this self-control? the power of the people through their educational and educational bodies or the people of power through their Wishlist in the squares? Is it really not clear that the second option is a dead end?
      2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 13 August 2022 21: 06
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        Alexey, you, as usual, speak and advise "from the lantern" without even bothering to advise you to build a strong alliance similar to the family, to find out if this institution you recommend is so strong. Ah, in vain. In order to be treated with trust, you need to present real facts, and not wishful thinking. And the figures for family divorces are more than 1000 divorces per 800 marriages. A strong alliance that needs to be adopted, of course. However, in fact, everything is not so simple, if you dig deeper and look at what laws the Russian family lived from Ivan the Terrible to the abolition of these laws in the Soviet era. It's about Domostroy. Then, your advice to build a strong alliance takes on a completely different meaning. You need to start with the fact that the church was laid the basic idea of ​​unity of command. In heaven there is one god and master over all, in the state there is one ruler over the entire population and in the family there is one chief over all family members - the husband. That is, the role of the wife was initially infringed. Which in turn gave rise to the practical impossibility of divorce. This was stimulated by the clergy, who considered the wedding in the church to be an eternal marriage and responsibility only to God. That is, it can be argued that in Russia of that period there were practically no divorces for 1000 marriages. Well, yes, than not an example of a strong family. Having transferred the advice to a strong alliance at your suggestion, then under the ruler-tyrant, the wife-population will be forced to, whether she wants to or does not want to obey her husband-ruler. That is, there can be no question of any options - by agreement of the parties and the equality of the parties.
  9. Pavel Mokshanov_2 (Pavel Mokshanov) 10 August 2022 16: 18
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    All 30 years of capitalism with a Russian face have shown that this model works only for grabbers and corrupt officials, but not for citizens of the Russian Federation. Its results are already manifested in the lack of many elements of weapons oriented towards the use of modern means. In addition, the imposed sanctions revealed the absence of many Russian-made tools in the field of IT, machine tools, auto, aircraft, etc. industries. This is all the result of sabotage by "effective" management, grown in the vastness of the "friendly" West. Under the current realities, the actions of the bureaucrats on import substitution will not solve the existing problems. What’s more, they don’t really want to. This means that it is necessary to replace these "specialists" with new ones, more erudite and responsible, who would contribute to the organization of production for the production of the necessary products that replace the outdated production. Yes, it will not be fast, but it should take place. Otherwise, Russia will not survive. On what basis do you do it? I think capitalism will not help here with the developed greed and corruption in the Russian Federation. We need socialism, but not orthodox, with elements of ownership of small-scale production and services. Well, for the superstructure, an ideology is needed, without it it is impossible. Her absence has already shown a negative result. Most importantly, we need a political decision of the supreme!
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 August 2022 16: 55
      +3
      Unfortunately, the country has many problems, and literally all elements of its system are affected by them. In order to fully embrace their control and management, a truly ubiquitous tool is needed. The people themselves are such an instrument. Saving the country and putting it on the path of development is in his interests.
      Therefore, a new mass popular ruling party should rule the country. I think that the CPSU, as part of the current sham multi-party system, can act, together with other political forces, only as an ordinary participant in the creation of such a party in the place of all the previous ones.
      I remember from our history the Zemsky Sobor of 1613, which united the healthy forces of the country and its people, chose a new government and put an end to the Time of Troubles
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 August 2022 21: 41
        +1
        Alexei, if the question is about the CPSU, then it has long been gone. Perhaps you meant the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, then this is a struggle and victory for the idea in the singular. That is, the rejection of any form of multi-party system, and as a result, the persecution of the opposition (GULAG) This has already happened.
        Maybe there is no need to change anything, but simply create effective control over the implementation by local officials of the President's annual messages. And if negligent ones are identified, change them to more efficient ones. Money is allocated, human and material resources are available, just roll up your sleeves and work. Why invent a new design of a bicycle every time if you fall off it? Maybe just learn to ride through falls and close this topic once and for all?
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 August 2022 23: 59
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          And who will do it in today's system? Yes, even in droves. What will be his interest? Again for money? And what about corruption?
          The fact of the matter is that this interest should be shaped by life itself. With your style.
          The people are vitally interested that this current mess with corruption, indifference and professional incompetence of the authorities, which has already penetrated into many professional areas, stop and the degradation process reverses. So that the country finally straightens up and moves towards its development in all spheres of life. To be seen and felt.
          By participating in the work of the People's Party, people are motivated by the very life and system of the Party. Many problems that we do not even know will come out of the shadows and become the object of work and attention. Life will gradually improve. From big problems to smaller ones.
          This happens in all civilized countries. We just need an external system that organizes us. We are not able to take the initiative in organizing our lives, so the multi-party system in our conditions is unworkable. It is tied into a system by the political activity of the population, which we do not have and is not expected to have. In this we are different.
          As for dissent - what do you mean? Thoughts or still actions?
          If there are thoughts, there are no questions at all.
          If actions - there are laws and rules of life that are convenient for everyone.
          There is finally a game in which everything, including changing the rules, can be discussed and decided
          1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
            Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 August 2022 00: 30
            -1
            Add a little more.
            In my understanding, the ruling people's party is a comradely collective. This is how the Soviet people were brought up. It worked. People were mostly friendly to each other.
            Now people have become more autonomous, but I don’t think that this will become a big problem, maybe even this will benefit the new society
          2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 03: 50
            -1
            Alexei, what's wrong with you? Previously, there was Rurik, now the next "Varangian" and there are no minds at all? Or is there no other solution besides the despot represented by the people? The people are not homogeneous. Again order through violence? Aren't you afraid that you can be among the raped?
            1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
              Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 August 2022 12: 27
              -1
              After our Victory in the Great Patriotic War and all other glorious victories of the USSR, respected all over the world, do you again take out some kind of dusty emigrant chest fake about the "atrocities of the Bolsheviks"? Remember history. The incapacitated power lay in its own excrement, the Bolsheviks simply raised it so that the country could live on, gave the country and people a powerful guide to the future. The white terror followed, and the intervention of the West along with it, as they say, hand in hand. The Red Terror was the country's defensive response to them, in order for her and her people to survive. The rigid order of the 30s was a necessary mobilization of the country, and of a society relaxed after the New Economic Policy, in the face of an imminent war with the West, which did not even think of calming down. Barely managed to make it. In another way - there would have been much more victims - Hitler, and the West along with him, would simply have destroyed us. At the root. It is strange that such simple things have to be mentioned.
              Now - you are looking for a problem where there is none. Our enemies, whom the president considers partners, took advantage of a steering error in 1991, and the country lost control for 30 years. We are talking about the return to the country of its helmsman - the people and their party. Only.
              The mess that is happening now, of course, cannot be called management. Well, no way
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            3. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
              Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 August 2022 21: 01
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              Or is there no other solution besides the despot represented by the people?

              For me, the people of Russia includes all states, and the oligarchs too. However, everything is not so simple. The key issue is that the Hegemon gets the opportunity to control the processes in the country through the dependence of the oligarchs on the global market instruments common with the Hegemon, over which he has control. The introduction of oligarchs into the ruling party may eventually make the independence of the country's governance system a fiction. Perhaps in this matter it is worth using the experience of China. Perhaps, as compensation, the oligarchs need a reliable system of guarantees. In any case, the country that is our common ship and its future should not be endangered. In our common interest.
              Is it despotism? With mutual consent (without which nothing will work) - reasonable caution. So far I see the answer to your question
              1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 22: 05
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                Alexey, I see you are savvy in this matter, but you will commit sedition by saying that for you the people of Russia are all classes and oligarchs too. Your fellow party members may not understand you. The question means that the oligarchs need to be put under the control of the state, excluding the dependence of the Hegemon, which rules everyone and everything. However, there were thoughts that these were enemies robbing people's wealth. Criminals in one word. So what to do with the oligarchs, considering at the same time, from your own words, that all of them are blood from the blood of our relatives? Take away their wealth and give it to the poor? But will the poor become rich after that? Moreover, it was the state that gave the right to any resident of the country to show his entrepreneurial spirit and earn as much as any citizen of the country wants and can. There are no restrictions here. So why did some take advantage of this and become rich, while others did not, hoping that the state owes them everything? Such people are very good at counting money in other people's pockets, but they will not lift a finger to make money appear in their own.
                1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                  Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 August 2022 23: 35
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                  I am not a member of any party. Everything I say is my personal opinion. So, as for the oligarchs, I think it is absurd to consider them criminals. These are people who have earned respect within the existing system and its rules of the game. The basis of decisions should be the unity of the people, including all estates. Therefore, I believe that it is necessary to maintain their material status quo at the time of inclusion in the new management system. I repeat that for a model of further work, I think it is worth taking China, where a balance of interests has probably been found
                  1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 12 August 2022 21: 32
                    0
                    Isn't there a balance of interests now? And that the interest of some and others has somehow changed? The stratification of society is not the fruit and work of philosophers or party programs, it is the basis of evolution. In a different way, it simply cannot be, in principle, anywhere and never. Otherwise, leveling for everyone in the predply subsistence level, which was the case in the USSR. It is impossible to make the entire population rich, there will be no one to work. And believe it or not, many people just don't want to be rich. Maybe because they were taught from childhood -

                    Stretch your legs on clothes.

                    Do not open your mouth to another loaf.
        2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 August 2022 01: 42
          -1
          Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) Can you just learn to ride through falls and close this topic once and for all?

          This is what we are talking about. To learn how to ride the "bike" of the united people's ruling party, drawing conclusions after falling off this bike in 1991. Don't drop your bike.
          The lessons can be learned by ourselves, or you can use the results of diligent study of our mistakes by the Chinese comrades. You can even ask them for help in party building, and I think they will be happy to help, as we once helped them
          1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 03: 59
            0
            That pancake... What kind of united people's party are you talking about? Where is she, who is her leader, why is she still missing? The only united party of the people which is now in the majority is United Russia. The Communists will never become a single people's party. Forget!
            1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
              Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 August 2022 12: 55
              0
              Again, look at history. You are repeating an old immigrant fake from the West. I already answered this in a comment above
              1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 22: 21
                0
                Alexey, an emigrant fake of the West? Are you serious? You are now relying on communist education, which will become the foundation of the future communist society. However, with all the upbringing in the USSR, millions were behind bars and there was the death penalty in the country. How to deal with it?
                1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                  Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 12 August 2022 13: 28
                  0
                  I can directly hear in your words the radio "Voice of America"
                  1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 12 August 2022 21: 54
                    0
                    That is not Alexey, then the voice of the common people, but according to your statements, you can remember - They are too far from the people. And for the communists, the people are just a tool to seize power. Which needs to be properly configured and directed.
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  10. Woland Offline Woland
    Woland (woland) 10 August 2022 17: 27
    +7
    Recipe for success "simple":
    1. All strategic industries must be completely nationalized. Leave private property only to small and medium-sized businesses.
    2. Return to the Soviet system of education and healthcare
    3. Sane ideology - goals, objectives, mission of Russia
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 August 2022 21: 29
      0
      Woland, how do you see nationalization? And private property is only...maybe so, but it is impossible to be a little pregnant, just as it is impossible for a strategic industry to be private. You are confusing something. What strategic private industries are you talking about? Maybe I just don't know about them?
      A sane ideology... And what do you want to see it in the goals, objectives, mission of Russia? Or maybe I like this ideology, but you don’t, what then? Again the notorious - What did they fight for and ran into? Maybe already enough banners and blood in the name of something there?
  11. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 10 August 2022 17: 35
    -2
    The problem is cardinal!
    It is impossible not to agree with the formulation of the question with the Author.
    But with his call for a mechanical copying of the experience of the PRC - no!
    The Chinese NEP is based on attracting foreign investment.
    Now a barrier is being set up as such, and the results of "friendly interference" are already slowly beginning to show.
    For the Russian Federation, which is subject to sanctions, this option is all the more unacceptable.
    A possible acceptable option: "the oligarchy remains in the workplace," but all further initiatives for expanded reproduction are transferred to the state.
    One can pompously recall the (united) slogan: "Building socialism ... with a human face in a single country."
    The only problem is that the Presidential form of government that exists in Russia is an insurmountable obstacle!
    ... Objections are accepted: "Truth is born in a dispute"!
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 August 2022 21: 16
      -3
      Mikhail, if objections are accepted, then accept not objections, but rather dotting the English "and" For example - the oligarchy remains in the workplace, but the rest is for the state. Can a state exist without an oligarchy? Can an oligarchy exist without a state? Or can he remember that in the USSR the red directors of production in the country's economy were called oligarchs, and stop considering state managers as a kind of special class (oligarchy) outside the state?
  12. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 10 August 2022 18: 43
    0
    In the event that Ukraine refuses a separate peace and a protracted war, the Russian economy will have to be transferred to a military footing, declare mobilization or buy mercenaries in friendly state formations, since the bins of the central bank are bursting with toxic Western currency, operations with which are severely limited by sanctions.
    “expand, absorbing new markets, production capacities, resources, human capital, etc.” possible only through military aggression, otherwise nothing.
    In absolute and relative terms, the trade turnover of each and every member of the CIS, Brix, CSTO, EAEU, etc. organizations is oriented to the “west” and is relatively weakly connected between the members of these associations. This predetermines the opportunity for the “West” to influence their domestic and foreign policy through investments, loans, technologies, joint ventures that finance the NGOs they need, public, political and other organizations.
    Self-sufficiency is ensured by the presence of all minerals existing in nature in practically unlimited quantities, the question is the price.
    The re-creation of the USSR-2 is a dangerous fantasy, and the president has spoken more than once and at various levels about the absence of such plans. It is dangerous in the sense that in all post-Soviet state formations at different stages of development, they are revising history and creating their own heroes, in all of them a class of large owners has formed or is being formed who under no circumstances will give up their capital in favor of the poor (proletarians), but at most what they are able to do is to unfasten 0,00% of their capital to charity under the guise of social responsibility in order to prevent the emergence of a revolutionary situation and preserve their capital.
    The economy of the USSR was the second after the USA, and V.V. Putin set a goal to enter the top five economically developed imperialist state formations after the USA, Japan, Nemetchyna, Britain and France - was the goal achieved or how?
    “If we want our country to survive and rise to a real, and not an imaginary, superpower status,” then it is necessary to create the prerequisites for this, which are
    1. in the transition to the Leninist foundations of building Socialism, which partly takes place and consists in the subordination of big capital to the interests of the state (from which big capital dreams of leaving and becoming Above the state as in the entire capitalist world), through state planning (national projects), regulation of entrepreneurship, lending, taxation, pricing, etc. All this may change after the departure of Vladimir Putin, on which Western colleagues, partners and friends, not unreasonably, place great hopes and ahead of time adopted a plan for the decolonization of the Russian Federation.
    2. The change of the social system is impossible without a political party and the dictatorship of the proletariat, for the role of which neither United Russia nor any of the Duma parties is suitable, perhaps with the exception of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.
    The fundamental difference between State capitalism and Socialism is that under state capitalism, big national capital hires and buys the government through election campaign financing, while under socialism, big capital is in a subordinate position to the state and serves the interests of the state and the population - an example of the PRC, but this is possible only if there is parties and dictatorships of the proletariat as in the People's Republic of China. Otherwise, large national capital is integrated into the global economy by transnational monopolistic associations and performs the functions of a “watchdog” within the framework, boundaries, and regions assigned to it.
    Ideology has a class character and reflects the interests of the ruling class through philosophy (star-striped transgenders and other perverts), art (modernism), religion (the canonization of Nicholas II, or as his contemporaries scornfully called him - nikolashka, whose hands are up to the elbows in blood).
    The ideology of the proletariat is Marxism-Leninism, which the entire capitalist world, including Russia, is stubbornly fighting against.
    Any war is aimed at political and economic interests and is one of the tools for strengthening domination, seizing territories, colonization is carried out by force, economic, ideological, informational, cultural and other methods.
    1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
      Michael L. 10 August 2022 18: 58
      0
      Is Ukraine a member of a warring ... coalition?
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 August 2022 20: 51
      0
      And where is the proletariat in Russia, do not tell me?
  13. Ivanushka-555 Online Ivanushka-555
    Ivanushka-555 (Ivan) 10 August 2022 19: 06
    +4
    It's funny to hear criticism of wild capitalism from Putin, who by hook or by crook has been supporting this very wildness for the third decade now (we don't forget his dark past in the St. Petersburg mayor's office, under the leadership of the criminal Sobchak). However, Putin is not the first to change shoes on the go - the optimization of schools and hospitals (well, that is, the reduction), the Bologna education system, juvenile justice (which is about to be crap ..sya!) And much more, for which he personally advocated, and now criticizes, but not of course, but scapegoats!
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 August 2022 21: 04
      -1
      555 what about Putin's dark past? You already open the eyes of the Russian public, which elects our president not even for the first time to the highest post in the country. Maybe you are in the shade and everything and everything seems dark to you?
      1. Ivanushka-555 Online Ivanushka-555
        Ivanushka-555 (Ivan) 11 August 2022 02: 45
        +2
        And look through the Internet, my friend - you will find. And we all know how elections are held in our country. For example, how in several regions they voted for 100% of those who had the right to vote!
        1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 03: 32
          -3
          555, why do you need all this? Or do you need to prove that we do not really want Putin, but the one who is yours? I personally do not want anyone other than Putin. You don't want it, so what? Shall we go kill each other? Well, why don't you know that 100% can vote for Putin? Why are you so sure that if you are against Putin, then everyone should be against him? Who hammered this nonsense into your head? Are you against Russia? Are you against 80% of the population who vote for Putin? What do you need from the government that would satisfy you? You can give a list so that it immediately becomes clear what you want. And so all your statements - about anything. There are people for whom any power is not in tyn just because it is just power.
  14. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 10 August 2022 19: 07
    0
    On the first line I understood - Marzhetsky. It scares him with saucers they fly ...
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 August 2022 20: 59
      0
      Or they fly to the wrong steppe ...
  15. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 10 August 2022 19: 53
    -1
    During the construction of the "USSR 2.0" Russia will have to follow the "Chinese path"

    Hmm ...

    Author!
    And from what does it follow that Russia is going to build "USSR 2.0", and not, for example, a monarchy with a new dynasty?
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 August 2022 20: 16
      +1
      Why do you need a monarchy? Why is she Russia? Where will the founder of the dynasty and the trust of the whole people come from? Where is the guarantee that this is not another deceiver? Who will guarantee his competence? What will his personality give to the state apparatus, which will still have to be created? How many people in Russia would agree to this archaic form of government? What about the need for the participation of the people in resolving the numerous existing problems of the country and preventing the emergence of new ones in their place? What to do with the people's negative experience of trusting the "good king" formed by the authorities?
      1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
        Krapilin (Victor) 10 August 2022 20: 44
        -3
        Dear Alexey Davydov (Alexey)!

        Why do you need a monarchy? Why is she Russia?

        In 1547, Metropolitan of All Russia Macarius performed the royal wedding of the Grand Duke of Moscow and recognized him as king: legitimate and pious. The meaning of what happened was truly enormous!
        From that moment on, the name of the Russian Tsar John (Ivan) Vasilyevich IV (the Terrible) began to be commemorated by all Balkan and other Slavs as a defender of Orthodoxy, and later Russian tsars became the successors of Equal-to-the-Apostles Constantine, in whom the Orthodox peoples oppressed by the Gentiles saw their liberators.
        In total, simple arithmetic: tsarist power in Russia is 370 years old;
        Soviet authorities - 69.
        The answer to your question is obvious - Russia is more inclined towards a monarchy than towards socialism or democracy.

        Where will the founder of the dynasty and the trust of the whole people come from?

        The Zemsky Sobor from the whole Russian land in 1613 elected a representative of the new dynasty to the throne: “The Council settled on Mikhail Feodorovich Romanov and interrupted its studies for two weeks so that the members of the Council could find out the opinion of the people on cities and counties. On February 21, 1613, on the Sunday of Orthodoxy, the Council met, and everyone submitted written opinions.
        All of them turned out to be the same - Mikhail Feodorovich Romanov was indicated as king. Ryazan Archbishop Feodorit, Trinity cellar Avraamy Palitsyn, Novospassky Archimandrite Joseph and boyar Morozov, having ascended the Execution Ground, asked the people who filled Red Square who they wanted to be kings. "Mikhail Feodorovich Romanov," was the answer.
        As a reference for you: the Romanovs replaced the Rurikovich.

        Where is the guarantee that this is not another deceiver. Who will guarantee his competence?

        And who guaranteed the competencies of Khrushchev, Chernenko, Andropov, Yeltsin, Gorbachev, etc.?

        How many people in Russia would agree to this archaic form of government?

        Gather a new Zemsky Sobor - and you will find out the answer to this question.
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 August 2022 23: 08
          -1
          I will try to answer you

          The answer to your question is obvious - Russia is more inclined towards a monarchy than towards socialism or democracy.

          Maybe it was so, but only in order to swim further along this river it was impossible to leave it. 75 years of participation of the people in the government of the country, their successes and the country during this period, the successful solution of the thousand-year-old problem of the removal of the people from power, have changed both the country and the people. Now you can’t drive him back - under the “oppression”, and there’s no need to.
          China has shown that that very way of life is quite efficient and successful. Mistakes were made in the CPSU, which had lost its self-control.
          What is completely unsuitable for the modern Russian people is capitalism and the power of money.
          The thirty-year experiment has failed - we are not competitive in capitalism.
          And in socialism - were. And how. Take the victory in the 2nd world, the world socialist system and the Warsaw Pact.
          No one on earth needs monarchical Russia, Russia building socialism will stand shoulder to shoulder with China, Vietnam and other countries in order to expand the socialist system, and in the future to build a fair society on the planet together with everyone

          The Zemsky Sobor from the whole Russian land in 1613 elected a representative of the new dynasty to the throne

          Life and people were different then. They believed. Actually, it's strong. The boundaries of good and evil were rigid and obvious to everyone. It was possible to choose a person - a person fell into the same rigid moral framework, already in a new capacity.
          Now life is different - in the minds of many - thousands of possible options for deception and a rich experience of successful transactions with their own conscience. Conscience is like plasticine. Man in our time - "pig in a poke." Finding a real person among thousands of people is an impossible task for the Cathedral

          And who guaranteed the competencies of Khrushchev, Chernenko, Andropov, Yeltsin, Gorbachev, etc.?

          The CPSU Party was created as a collective, a team in which everyone is equal and everyone has access to party information. Personal involvement, discussion, proving the case in a dispute - were the norm. Any person was all his life in it in plain sight, as if under an x-ray. In hot work, it was tested for its effectiveness, personal success and dedication. This guaranteed the competence of the elected leaders. It’s just that at some point the party lost self-control, which it was supposed to provide itself

          Gather a new Zemsky Sobor - and you will find out the answer to this question.

          Russia does not have many opportunities to appeal to the trust of the people. If this one breaks, it may not be possible to assemble it a second time.
          1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
            Krapilin (Victor) 11 August 2022 06: 25
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            Dear Alexey Davydov (Alexey)!

            No one on earth needs monarchical Russia, Russia building socialism will stand shoulder to shoulder with China, Vietnam and other countries in order to expand the socialist system, and in the future to build a fair society on the planet together with everyone

            Naturally, no one needs a monarchical Russia on Earth, since the Orthodox monarchy is the only bulwark in the world of opposition to Satanism on the planet.
            A just society on the planet without a victory over Satanism on the basis of Orthodoxy is impossible in principle. And Satanism is present in capitalism and in communism and in democracy - only the nuances are different. Without faith in God, man is a monkey controlled by Satan.

            Now life is different - in the minds of many - thousands of possible options for deception and a rich experience of successful transactions with their own conscience. Conscience is like plasticine.

            You need to start with yourself and with your conscience, and only then talk about many.

            The CPSU Party was created as a collective, a team in which everyone is equal and everyone has access to party information.

            The CPSU is a collective of robbers created by professional revolutionaries who destroyed socialism by the dictatorship of the proletariat, that is, by the total violence of the minority over the majority. Sailors in Kronstadt fought for "Soviets without communists."

            Russia does not have many opportunities to appeal to the trust of the people.

            For Russia in general, or for the current oligarchic government in Russia in particular? You decide...
            1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 09: 00
              -1
              Well, we must not forget that the Bolsheviks carried out a coup d'etat, which entailed such disasters for the country, which, perhaps, are commensurate with the Tatar-Mongol yoke. Maybe those who are again for the communists will tell how many millions of ordinary people were destroyed in the civil war? Probably, all those here who stand up for the communists see themselves as part of the firing squads, which will carry out the dictatorship of the proletariat with impunity. And the expropriation of the expropriators. God forbid Russia from such a deadly misfortune.
              1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 August 2022 13: 02
                0
                As I wrote to you above, you are repeating the old emigrant fake from the West
                1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
                  Krapilin (Victor) 11 August 2022 14: 16
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                  Dear Alexey Davydov (Alexey)!

                  As I wrote to you above, you are repeating the old emigrant fake from the West

                  Is the uprising of sailors in Kronstadt against the communists a "fake"?

                  Are the Tambov peasants killed by the communists with military poison gases also a "fake"?

                  More than 10 brutally murdered Orthodox priests, for example, with their bellies torn open or fighters for the world proletarian revolution buried upside down in the ground - again a "fake"?

                  Millions of money and tons of gold and jewelry stolen by the communists from the people to financially support idlers in different countries from the world communist movement - again a "fake"?
                  Etc. etc.

                  "Fake" is your knowledge of the history of your country.

                  Or is Russia for you not "your" country and not your homeland?
                  1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 August 2022 15: 35
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                    Is the uprising of sailors in Kronstadt against the communists a "fake"?

                    Are the Tambov peasants killed by the communists with military poison gases also a "fake"?

                    So what?
                    Remind you of the Lena events and other pages of the history of the Russian monks from school textbooks?
                    However, for example, the Lena events took place during a stable period of tsarist power. They cannot be justified by the transitional processes after the fall of the old system.

                    More than 10 brutally murdered Orthodox priests, for example, with their bellies torn open or fighters for the world proletarian revolution buried upside down in the ground - again a "fake"?

                    This really looks like a fake.

                    Millions of money and tons of gold and jewelry stolen by the communists from the people to financially support idlers in different countries from the world communist movement - again a "fake"?

                    A bet on a world revolution could save the country from its inevitable clash with the West. Lenin invested money in support of the Comintern, which was supposed to give a return by intercepting the initiative from the West, time for peaceful development and bringing the country to the world level with the help of the NEP. The processes in the world have gone differently. Stalin had to urgently correct the situation by introducing strict military discipline into the country, relaxed after the NEP, for its accelerated industrialization and preparation for a clash with the West.
                    1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
                      Krapilin (Victor) 11 August 2022 17: 34
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                      Dear Alexey Davydov (Alexey)!

                      Your panegyric of the world revolution, led by Marx-Engels and Lenin-Stalin, resembles a humoresque for people with low intelligence from the program "Crooked Mirror".
                      This is when reality is distorted in the twilight consciousness.
                      Where is your USSR, world revolution and communist paradise for everyone on earth?
                      There is nothing...
                      And why not?
                      But because the communists themselves ruined everything.
                      Note - it was not the White Guards or aliens who did this, but the communists themselves betrayed and sold the USSR in 1991 ...

                      Without living traditions that have been passed down for centuries from person to person, from generation to generation, people cease to live, and become a functioning biomass. The Bolsheviks broke the thousand-year traditions of the Russian people through their knees, replacing spirituality with slogans. Russian and Orthodox were destroyed by the communist and international.
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 August 2022 20: 56
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      Indeed, Krapilin. The descendants of even the Rurikovichs, even the Romanovs, can be found, if desired, and the descendants of noble princes are higher than the roof. Well, you don’t have to look for slaves ... like hard labor and a rack for disgruntled revolutionary innovators. I am for it!
      1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
        Krapilin (Victor) 10 August 2022 21: 05
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        Dear Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg)!

        If the new dynasty sends the shitty liberals on the rack, lining them up in a column of 5 in a row, and if the other LGBT audience that corrupts our children is set up in pursuit of lifelong hard labor, then the lackeys will applaud such a dynasty while standing and shouting loudly: "Any!!"
        1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 03: 38
          -1
          So I am the same! But the question is not about that, right? judging by the article and your answer to the author. ... and not, for example, a monarchy? Here's what I'm talking about. That is, anything at all.
      2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 August 2022 21: 16
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        (Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg)) Maybe then you will bother to answer all my questions about the monarchy? For the sake of persuasiveness of what is written here
        1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
          Krapilin (Victor) 10 August 2022 21: 25
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          Dear Alexey Davydov (Alexey)!

          And what about us - in the interrogation room and you, like, an investigator-with-questions?
          If you do not understand what Krapilin voiced to your, to put it mildly, sets of phrases with question marks, then these are your problems and gaps in education.
          History textbooks to help.
          Including the topic "where did the Russian land come from."

          Perhaps I will upset you, but the Russian Land in no way in socialism, not in communism and not in democracy has its Imperial state origins.
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          2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 August 2022 23: 17
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            Krapilin, you are right as always. Marzhetsky nibemes does not know the History of the Russian State, not even from Rurik to this day. Therefore, I personally do not perceive his ultimate truth. Dogs bark - the caravan moves on.
        2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 04: 37
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          It seems that Krapilin gave an answer to all questions and I agree with him - the Monarchy lasted 370 years, socialism was only 69. What other questions can there be?
  16. Gennady1959 Offline Gennady1959
    Gennady1959 (Gennady) 10 August 2022 20: 32
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    The fact that the modern Russian Federation is not able to defeat the united West alone with its colossal military-industrial power, unfortunately, does not cause much doubt.

    Disagree. It is necessary to stop the plundering of the country, the export of capital, to disperse the criminal bureaucratic gang.
    The oligarchs have stolen and taken out of Russia more than three trillion dollars. These are all sorts of Potanins, Mordashevs, Sechenovs, Grefs, Michelson Rotenbergs, Abramovichs, Lisitsins. This money is enough. quite enough to create from scratch the most modern electronic industry, the military-industrial complex. Make education and healthcare free and accessible to all citizens.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 August 2022 23: 01
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      Gennady, have you already tried on a leather jacket and entered the image? Only Comrade Mauser is not enough to start? It's people like you who provoked the civil war with all its "charms". Itchy again?
      You are talking here like a gang of conspirators, but you asked the people what they need and what they don't need? Fucking Napoleons...
  17. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 10 August 2022 20: 33
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    Nobody will build the USSR 2.0. It was originally a defective model. Stalin was against it, he planned to fix it, but did not have time. Not allowed.
    A Eurasian currency (economic) zone is being built under the leadership of Russia. The borders are already largely defined, they will be much larger than the USSR or the Russian Empire.
    The system in each country will be the one chosen by the people, taking into account the mentality and other prevailing realities.
    For Russia - the system to which Stalin led and which Khrushchev destroyed. It is useful to read the book "Growth Crystals". Under Stalin, a normal balance was maintained between state ownership of the means of production and private enterprise. For example, before 1961. the state was not engaged in the release of gramophone records. Khrushchev destroyed everything.
    Khrushchev also destroyed the almost created ruble currency zone. It would include most of the world.
    Speaking of socialism, one must be aware of what kind of socialism?
    In China, after the death of Stalin, Mao's pro-American group came to power. Which in the end led to a break with the USSR and the subjugation of the United States. More or less, she was pushed out of power with the advent of the Xi army group. So, we do not need the experience of China. They are going through hard times.
    The Chinese way is based on pumping a backward country with technology and finance in exchange for the willingness of the population to work for a bowl of rice. As soon as China began to claim more, problems began. With a collapse in demand for Chinese exports to the EU and the US, China will sink just like them.
    And Russia does not even need to radically change its economic model for growth. You can simply remove the liberals from power and start full-fledged financing of the economy. If Western countries have overfinanced economies (not in horse fodder), then our economy is financed by 40%. With 100% financing, 7 years of double-digit growth are provided.
    And technology will come to us after cheap energy. Hunger and cold are not an aunt.
    They will apply to the Union State, but they will accept very few and with analysis. Nobody will blow it up.
  18. Gennady1959 Offline Gennady1959
    Gennady1959 (Gennady) 10 August 2022 20: 39
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    Quote: Jacques Sekavar
    The re-creation of the USSR-2 is a dangerous fantasy, and the president has spoken more than once and at various levels about the absence of such plans.

    Putin is an accomplice in the collapse of the USSR and today he is doing everything to make the restoration of the USSR impossible. Since 2000, Putin and Lavrov have been purposefully working to break up relations with Ukraine and Belarus. Look at what scum these years were appointed ambassadors to these republics. In Belarus - the ambassador of the Russian Federation, the former deputy director of the Hermitage, the chairman of the city society Knowledge, etc. I'm not talking about Chernomyrdin, Zurabov. These nonentities ruined everything that is possible in Russia and then they were sent to ruin relations with Ukraine. Look at the results of cooperation with Kazakhstan... VVP and Lavrov deserved all the highest awards of the NATO countries. Worthy successors of the Gorbachev-Shevardnadze-Yakovlev cause.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 August 2022 20: 48
      -1
      If the country manages to take this path, the resistance of the "fifth column" will be powerful, including in the form of "sabotage" disguised as all sorts of useful initiatives and proposals. Therefore, the country in its management needs a "collective mind" and its openness to the public, which will act both in the center and in the field. Again, such a mind is the mass people's ruling party due to its mass character. An example is the CPSU (VKPB) in the USSR before the era of "stagnation".
      Including, and for this reason, there should be only one party. All discussions and clashes of opinions, as well as the formation of temporary initiative groups, should take place within it, without violating its integrity and efficiency.
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 August 2022 22: 55
      -1
      Gennady, Putin is also an accomplice to the collapse of the Roman Empire and to the defeat of the Russian fleet in Tsushima. Also an accomplice of the Ukrofascist Maidan in Ukraine, and if it were not for him there would be no spots on the Sun ...
  19. Gennady1959 Offline Gennady1959
    Gennady1959 (Gennady) 10 August 2022 20: 45
    +1
    Quote: Jacques Sekavar
    The ideology of the proletariat is Marxism-Leninism, which the entire capitalist world, including Russia, is stubbornly fighting against.

    I think you are very mistaken here. Marxism-Leninism has nothing to do with what is happening now. These dreamers-fanatics became obsolete already in 1922.
    To begin with, today in developed countries there is practically no proletariat in the understanding of Marx-Lenin.
    Serious theoretical developments were still being made by I.V. Stalin. And then there was such a cheap trifle .... There are no scientists in this area, there are political women of easy virtue who hesitated along with the party line. There is no theory of state building today. There is no ideology in Russia today. More precisely, there is an ideology of plundering the country.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 August 2022 22: 48
      -1
      Gennady, why are you clinging to some notorious ideology? Will it show up and what will happen?
    2. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
      Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 11 August 2022 00: 00
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      The proletariat as a class is defined by its attitude to the means of production, methods of obtaining and the size of social wealth.
      The theory of Marxism, dialectical and historical materialism is the foundation of Marxism on which the materialistic understanding of history and social life is based.
      Economic problems of socialism in the USSR, about dialectical and historical materialism, other works, I.V. Stalin contributed to the theory of Marxism, and the practice of industrialization and economic reforms, which raised 90% of the illiterate backward and destroyed by the civil war country to the world economic and scientific leaders, discovered the beginning of the atomic and space age, are studying all over the world.
  20. alexandrsargatka (Alexander Moskvin) 10 August 2022 20: 49
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    The fact that the modern Russian Federation is not able to defeat the united West alone with its colossal military-industrial power, unfortunately, does not cause much doubt.

    And the Europeans were worried that without fighting directly with Russia, their reserves were depleted.

    So far, the RF Armed Forces are fighting on Soviet stocks, but they are not unlimited.

    Russia is at war? Yes, you look through history, the last time you fought during the Second World War, and now the battles, as previously reported, are of local importance.

    the end of the conflict in Ukraine with the defeat of the criminal regime of Zelensky can not be in a hurry, they are very seriously mistaken. Dangerously deluded.

    It’s really very good that the author is not at the maps of hostilities. And then how many thoughtless losses would there be.

    So, we have come to the conclusion that the re-creation of a federal/confederal union on the ruins of the USSR, and even beyond its borders, in fact, has no alternative if we want our country to survive and rise to a real, and not imaginary, superpower status.

    What kind of nonsense? With Belarus, how much tyagomotina last. In addition, now is not the beginning of the last century, when ideas were in the air. Now they want the result yesterday, besides, with the current possibilities of influencing the West and the United States on the minds of the population, there will always be an opportunity to split society.
  21. Avarron Offline Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) 10 August 2022 21: 01
    +2
    There is no alternative to socialism. Capitalism mindlessly recycles the resources of the planet, in a hurry to convert real resources into digital virtual candy wrappers of bank accounts.
    The result of the "work" of capitalism is the destruction of forests by processing them into packaging, which, after the sale of the next product, is not needed by anyone and goes straight to the landfill, adding garbage to the planet.
    Capitalism destroys all the skills and abilities of a person that are not sharpened to get waste paper.
    He really melts human lives and health into dust with endless work with zero results. He constantly unleashes wars. Under capitalism, a person has no value as a thinking and feeling creature, but only as a resource.
    The cannibalistic system must be destroyed.
    1. Vova Zhelyabov Offline Vova Zhelyabov
      Vova Zhelyabov (Vova Zhelyabov) 10 August 2022 23: 17
      -1
      Then we will divide everyone into classes and layers.
  22. Vova Zhelyabov Offline Vova Zhelyabov
    Vova Zhelyabov (Vova Zhelyabov) 10 August 2022 21: 35
    -1
    Winning means putting in 27 million.
  23. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 10 August 2022 22: 40
    -1
    Marzhetsky there are no tops at all. If you consider Zyuganov to be the top with his socialism, then this is pure populism with a claim to replace Putin with a change in the political system. Putin, with his characteristic delicacy, simply sent him somewhere else. If you didn't see it, then you just didn't want to see it. Putin spoke about wild capitalism in general terms throughout the world and the prevention of this in Russia.
    And where in the Constitution does it say that capitalism is in Russia?
  24. Vladd Offline Vladd
    Vladd (Vladd) 11 August 2022 02: 07
    +1
    As long as the Kremlin thieves are in power, there is no way for Russia.
    1. Vova Zhelyabov Offline Vova Zhelyabov
      Vova Zhelyabov (Vova Zhelyabov) 11 August 2022 03: 47
      +2
      Do not slander, Russia has changed.
  25. akm8226 Offline akm8226
    akm8226 11 August 2022 08: 13
    0
    Fifth column in action. They don't even hide anymore. So, things are bad for you, if you need to shine.
    PYSY. We in Russia - do not believe it - deflation. Prices are dropping on some items. This was, as far as I remember, only under Stalin. And the author invites us to surrender.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 14: 59
      0
      8226 if we don't give up on time, we'll have to take some goods for free.
    2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 August 2022 16: 13
      0
      And the author invites us to surrender.

      Can you quote from the author? Just to be sure
  26. w.bersr1954 Offline w.bersr1954
    w.bersr1954 (Vasiliy) 11 August 2022 09: 36
    -2
    building a socially oriented state capitalism, which can later develop into full-fledged socialism.

    It would not be bad for the author to read the book "State and Law". Capitalism and socialism are two completely different socio-economic formations, moreover, they are mutually exclusive in form and content in terms of the goals (if you want, in ideology) of their existence. Socialism is socio-political progress in the development of human society (but not a dead end, as the President of the Russian Federation claims). At a meeting with faction leaders, already on JUNE 10, 2022, the President of the Russian Federation said that there is nothing wrong with socialism ... It took 30 years to come to such a discovery ... The author calls for leaving capitalism, but just let it be socially oriented. Not bad. So, gentlemen, the capitalists are intact, the working people continue to bend their backs for the good of their oppressors ... Everything is the same, only the sign is different. Well, and finally, in order for capitalism to smoothly develop into socialism, according to the author, it is not necessary at all, just to return the property taken from its people. So we smoothly got with you, dear readers, into the science fiction department. Nice, nice, dear author ... There is no point in commenting further, it is quite obvious where the cart is rolling ... I ask the author to see that I tried to comprehend the content of the abstract, but in no way intended to offend respected authority and personal feelings of the author. I hope for mutual courtesy... Thank you.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 14: 49
      -1
      1954 At least you yourself understand what you are writing .... The working people continue to bend their backs for the benefit of their oppressors. My God, what bullshit. And who makes the working people bend their backs. Well, then either the author’s nonsense or the nonsense of those who stuck this nonsense into his brains took 30 years ... Who is Putin? Are you out of your mind 1954? What the hell is capitalism in our time? Now is 2022 and not 1922. You are somewhere lost in time for a hundred years! Yes, and the author is still a balabolka!
      1. Vova Zhelyabov Offline Vova Zhelyabov
        Vova Zhelyabov (Vova Zhelyabov) 11 August 2022 18: 10
        0
        There are no other oppressors and are not expected.
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        1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 22: 51
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          1954 here you are the very example of a communist functionary for whom there are two opinions - mine and not correct. And if something is not to your liking, fuck him.
  27. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 11 August 2022 09: 40
    -1
    The idea of ​​"Like in China" has been circulating at the top for a very long time. But in Russian.
    So that the iron curtain for the simple, ideology, censorship - like in China.
    And the responsibility for the authorities and the oligarchs - for development, crimes, incomes - as under Yeltsin.

    That is, the Oligarchs were not shot, officials were only scolded, resources were over the hill, but the media were silent about this and painted how good life is for everyone, what high salaries, and what new wonderful enterprises for the production of windows for superjets are about to start ...
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 11 August 2022 11: 58
      +1
      (Serge) Replica. So we need a centripetal idea for today's Russia, because we live according to the old idea imposed on Russia, "to catch up with the West", and this is an eccentric idea, and the result is to loot more in Russia and dump it on the "correct West", because in Russia there is still long will be "the wrong west".
      1. Vova Zhelyabov Offline Vova Zhelyabov
        Vova Zhelyabov (Vova Zhelyabov) 11 August 2022 18: 12
        0
        There is an acute shortage of personnel in the country, including in the top management.
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 14: 37
      0
      Sergey, don’t tell me why to shoot the oligarchs.
      1. Vova Zhelyabov Offline Vova Zhelyabov
        Vova Zhelyabov (Vova Zhelyabov) 11 August 2022 18: 13
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        Others will take their place.
  28. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 11 August 2022 14: 32
    -1
    Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
    The goal is to build a bright future in the image of communism ... Or maybe, just to stop this communist crap, you Alexey will tell everyone here what communism really is and its priorities and everything connected with it for ordinary people and close this stupid topic forever.
  29. monarchist Online monarchist
    monarchist (Foma) 11 August 2022 15: 43
    -1
    Krapilin Dear eto liszneje komunistow uwazat ne polozeno ich nado istreblat= nakazat ubijcow Welikomuczenika Imperatora Nikolaja II i palaczej Russkowo Naroda komunisty opasnaja 5 kolonna
    1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
      Krapilin (Victor) 11 August 2022 21: 51
      -1
      Dear monarchist (Foma)!

      yes
    2. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 12 August 2022 10: 45
      -2
      Quote from monarchist
      Welikomuczenika Imperatora Nikolaja II

      Oh, come on!
      This "great martyr" of yours was the first to betray his country by refusing to restore order in it. This "great martyr" of yours put personal interests and the interests of the family above the interests of the state. This "great martyr" of yours betrayed the duty of an officer of the Imperial Guard, not even trying to save the empire, and after all this not even finding the strength to shoot himself, as befits a colonel of the Imperial Guard and commander of the Life Guards regiment. Yes, the communists treated him much more decently than he was worthy, and they shot him as an officer, and did not hang him (which he actually deserved with his crimes against the state) as a traitor. This was the worst emperor in the history of the Russian Empire, and he was rewarded for his deeds.
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        1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
          k7k8 (vic) 14 August 2022 18: 02
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          In, another from the sect of witnesses of the martyr (that's right) erupted. And I don’t give a damn about who you think is the person directly responsible for the disappearance of the Russian Empire from the political map of the world and bearing the dubious title of the former emperor of all Russia.
          By the way, you, who consider yourself a monarchist, are ashamed to call Nicholas II the Tsar of Russia, which he never was.

  30. Vova Zhelyabov Offline Vova Zhelyabov
    Vova Zhelyabov (Vova Zhelyabov) 11 August 2022 18: 36
    -1
    The last time Russia could go the Chinese way was after the death of Stalin. Beria prepared the country for this and probably would not have missed the chance ... But his comrades-in-arms slandered him on the head with a crowbar.
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  32. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
    soloist2424 (Oleg) 11 August 2022 21: 20
    -1
    Yes, Marzhetsky is recognizable from the first lines.

    The fact that the modern Russian Federation is not able to defeat the united West alone with its colossal military-industrial power, unfortunately, does not cause much doubt.
    So far, the RF Armed Forces are fighting on Soviet stocks, but they are not unlimited. With the mass production of the latest models of military equipment, alas, not everything is as good as we would like.

    Quite a strange choice of technology. And why not look, for example, at aviation, MANPADS, rocket weapons?
  33. vlad127490 Online vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 12 August 2022 19: 15
    0
    There will be no more USSR-2, the "elite" will not allow this. The Union State has shown its inferiority. It is necessary to build Russia without any union republics, all territorial formations are equal: provinces = republics = regions = territories ... The structure of the economy is state-private, the ideology is socialism. Land, water, forests, minerals are the property of the people - the state, cannot be transferred to private ownership, cannot be sold or bought.
  34. monarchist Online monarchist
    monarchist (Foma) 12 August 2022 21: 31
    -1
    Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
    All these diagrams are not quite clear to me

    kak wam neponjatno nado molczat zanjatsja swoim obrazowanem ekonomiczeska negramotnost eto ne argument
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 12 August 2022 22: 08
      0
      Monarchist, it's better to be honest about what you don't know. If you know - share. It's never too late to learn.
  35. Cucumbers Offline Cucumbers
    Cucumbers (Cucumbers) 13 August 2022 16: 51
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    What Chinese let? If the USSR could follow it, it would have followed it since the late 80s. No finance. And in China, they appeared in exchange for the loyalty of the CCP. There, a certain family controls all export-import operations. And the CCP is the beholder and their socialism is so that the hard workers do not think of anything and ruin their business. Russia. For the West, this is such an Eldorado, if you take possession of it, then all their problems will be solved. They are preparing an unenviable fate for us, they are already sharing the skin of a Russian bear. And in the confrontation with them, all methods should be good. The Russian way is a search for truth and an ideology may arise along this way
  36. Alexander Ponamarev (Alexander Ponamarev) 14 August 2022 07: 03
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    And why not start with a mop right? The process is meticulous but reliable, and no bastard (raised by a liberal oligarch who is now frankly holding all the key infrastructures of our economy by the balls) will crawl into managers, and even more so into the State Duma!?!?